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Lynne Cheney,[br]the daughter of Dick Cheney,

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went on Fox and said,

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"I’d really like to see President Obama

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move to ask the government of Iceland[br]to shut the website down.

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I’d like to see him move[br]to shut it down ourselves

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if Iceland won’t do it.” Julian?

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Yeah, a source of great delight

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in Iceland, actually—that statement,[br]I mean.

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She is a not terribly liked individual.

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Well, I shouldn’t say that, actually.

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Her father is a not well liked[br]individual.

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And she seems to share[br]the same politics and patronage,

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networking, their extended friends[br]and so on.

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So, the Icelandic people are fierce[br]and fiercely independent,

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and I’m sure they’re not going[br]to be cowered by Liz Cheney.

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Right, that was Liz Cheney,[br]Cheney’s daughter.

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How are you protecting yourself[br]at this point, Julian Assange?

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Well, I would like to tell you all[br]about it, Amy,

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but, you know, that might not be wise.

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However, there are countries,[br]Western countries,

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even countries in NATO,

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that are strongly supportive[br]of what we do politically.

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And, for example, the UK[br]has announced—

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UK Parliament has announced[br]two inquiries

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into Afghanistan,

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one on the civilian casualties

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and the other on what is[br]the exit strategy

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and how to get out of it.

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The Dutch government

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just formally announced

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its exit from Afghanistan.

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And other governments around the world[br]involved in the ISAF coalition have,

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in bigger and small ways,

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announced that they are trying

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to do something about the revelations[br]in this material.

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And all of them

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are taking note[br]of what the United States’ attitude is,

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which is[br]instead of immediately saying

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these revelations are a serious concern,

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we never wanted to harm Afghan civilians or to bribe the media,

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as an example[br]of one of the revelations in there,

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and we intend to launch[br]an immediate investigation

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to understand this[br]and compensate those people accordingly

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and change our procedures—

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that’s what the rest of the world[br]wants to hear.

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That’s what Afghanistan,[br]the people of Afghanistan want to hear.

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But instead they heard

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a personal attack on me[br]and on our organization

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and an announcement[br]that they would be going after

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the whistleblower or whistleblowers[br]involved in this.

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And now we see them living up[br]to those words

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and stalking around Boston,

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and spying and harassing MIT graduates,

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and trunking around the United Kingdom,

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where they raided Manning,

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the alleged whistleblower,

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for a video release called[br]"Collateral Murder,"

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in her home in Wales.

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Well, Julian Assange,[br]we’re going to leave it there,

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founder and editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks,[br]speaking to us from abroad.

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This is Democracy Now!,[br]democracynow.org,

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the War and Peace Report.

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And on that issue of "Collateral Murder,"

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what WikiLeaks called the video[br]of July 12th, 2007, of a military,

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US military Apache attack[br]on residents of Baghdad,

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two Reuters employees killed in that,

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you can go to our website,[br]democracynow.org,

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to see the discussion and the video.

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And also an update to one of our headlines

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Al Jazeera is now reporting at least three lebani soldiers

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have been killed by israeli forces in a exchange of rocket and gun fire

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along the border between the two countries.

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A lebanist journalist was also killed and five more lebani soldiers wounded

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in Israeli shelling.

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At least two israeli soldiers were shot

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That does it for the show, Democracy Now is produced by Mike Berg

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Special thanks to Elizabeth Press, Julie Crosby,

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Our website is democracynow.org

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Thanks to also to

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I am Amy Goodman, thank you so much for joining us