1 00:00:00,460 --> 00:00:04,570 Lynne Cheney, the daughter of Dick Cheney, 2 00:00:04,570 --> 00:00:05,980 went on Fox and said, 3 00:00:05,980 --> 00:00:07,650 "I’d really like to see President Obama 4 00:00:07,650 --> 00:00:11,090 move to ask the government of Iceland to shut the website down. 5 00:00:11,090 --> 00:00:13,830 I’d like to see him move to shut it down ourselves 6 00:00:13,830 --> 00:00:16,670 if Iceland won’t do it.” Julian? 7 00:00:16,670 --> 00:00:19,680 Yeah, a source of great delight 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,360 in Iceland, actually—that statement, I mean. 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,640 She is a not terribly liked individual. 10 00:00:27,940 --> 00:00:30,280 Well, I shouldn’t say that, actually. 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,720 Her father is a not well liked individual. 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,330 And she seems to share the same politics and patronage, 13 00:00:37,330 --> 00:00:41,180 networking, their extended friends and so on. 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:47,130 So, the Icelandic people are fierce and fiercely independent, 15 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:51,590 and I’m sure they’re not going to be cowered by Liz Cheney. 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,910 Right, that was Liz Cheney, Cheney’s daughter. 17 00:00:54,910 --> 00:00:58,760 How are you protecting yourself at this point, Julian Assange? 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,130 Well, I would like to tell you all about it, Amy, 19 00:01:02,130 --> 00:01:04,640 but, you know, that might not be wise. 20 00:01:05,710 --> 00:01:11,390 However, there are countries, Western countries, 21 00:01:12,170 --> 00:01:13,730 even countries in NATO, 22 00:01:13,730 --> 00:01:18,410 that are strongly supportive of what we do politically. 23 00:01:18,550 --> 00:01:22,160 And, for example, the UK has announced— 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,470 UK Parliament has announced two inquiries 25 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:28,620 into Afghanistan, 26 00:01:28,620 --> 00:01:31,780 one on the civilian casualties 27 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:34,760 and the other on what is the exit strategy 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,090 and how to get out of it. 29 00:01:36,090 --> 00:01:37,600 The Dutch government 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,580 just formally announced 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,050 its exit from Afghanistan. 32 00:01:45,490 --> 00:01:51,490 And other governments around the world involved in the ISAF coalition have, 33 00:01:51,810 --> 00:01:54,270 in bigger and small ways, 34 00:01:54,370 --> 00:01:56,220 announced that they are trying 35 00:01:56,220 --> 00:01:58,720 to do something about the revelations in this material. 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,800 And all of them 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,840 are taking note of what the United States’ attitude is, 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,640 which is instead of immediately saying 39 00:02:08,640 --> 00:02:13,180 these revelations are a serious concern, 40 00:02:13,180 --> 00:02:18,750 we never wanted to harm Afghan civilians or to bribe the media, 41 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:22,320 as an example of one of the revelations in there, 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,430 and we intend to launch an immediate investigation 43 00:02:26,430 --> 00:02:31,150 to understand this and compensate those people accordingly 44 00:02:31,150 --> 00:02:32,480 and change our procedures— 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,160 that’s what the rest of the world wants to hear. 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,800 That’s what Afghanistan, the people of Afghanistan want to hear. 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,510 But instead they heard 48 00:02:40,710 --> 00:02:45,350 a personal attack on me and on our organization 49 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:50,200 and an announcement that they would be going after 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,310 the whistleblower or whistleblowers involved in this. 51 00:02:53,310 --> 00:02:57,450 And now we see them living up to those words 52 00:02:57,490 --> 00:02:59,960 and stalking around Boston, 53 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:03,800 and spying and harassing MIT graduates, 54 00:03:04,110 --> 00:03:07,960 and trunking around the United Kingdom, 55 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,100 where they raided Manning, 56 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:18,070 the alleged whistleblower, 57 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,280 for a video release called "Collateral Murder," 58 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,390 in her home in Wales. 59 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,570 Well, Julian Assange, we’re going to leave it there, 60 00:03:28,570 --> 00:03:33,180 founder and editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks, speaking to us from abroad. 61 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:36,290 This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, 62 00:03:36,290 --> 00:03:37,760 the War and Peace Report. 63 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,400 And on that issue of "Collateral Murder," 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,950 what WikiLeaks called the video of July 12th, 2007, of a military, 65 00:03:44,950 --> 00:03:50,200 US military Apache attack on residents of Baghdad, 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,300 two Reuters employees killed in that, 67 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:54,340 you can go to our website, democracynow.org, 68 00:03:54,340 --> 00:03:55,880 to see the discussion and the video. 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,490 And also an update to one of our headlines 70 00:03:57,490 --> 00:04:01,200 Al Jazeera is now reporting at least three lebani soldiers 71 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,200 have been killed by israeli forces in a exchange of rocket and gun fire 72 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,010 along the border between the two countries. 73 00:04:06,010 --> 00:04:09,790 A lebanist journalist was also killed and five more lebani soldiers wounded 74 00:04:09,790 --> 00:04:11,180 in Israeli shelling. 75 00:04:11,250 --> 00:04:13,550 At least two israeli soldiers were shot 76 00:04:13,710 --> 00:04:17,210 That does it for the show, Democracy Now is produced by Mike Berg 77 00:04:24,280 --> 00:04:26,930 Special thanks to Elizabeth Press, Julie Crosby, 78 00:04:31,460 --> 00:04:33,920 Our website is democracynow.org 79 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:35,370 Thanks to also to 80 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,840 I am Amy Goodman, thank you so much for joining us