WEBVTT 00:00:00.460 --> 00:00:04.570 Lynne Cheney, the daughter of Dick Cheney, 00:00:04.570 --> 00:00:05.980 went on Fox and said, 00:00:05.980 --> 00:00:07.650 "I’d really like to see President Obama 00:00:07.650 --> 00:00:11.090 move to ask the government of Iceland to shut the website down. 00:00:11.090 --> 00:00:13.830 I’d like to see him move to shut it down ourselves 00:00:13.830 --> 00:00:16.670 if Iceland won’t do it.” Julian? 00:00:16.670 --> 00:00:19.680 Yeah, a source of great delight 00:00:19.680 --> 00:00:24.360 in Iceland, actually—that statement, I mean. 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.640 She is a not terribly liked individual. 00:00:27.940 --> 00:00:30.280 Well, I shouldn’t say that, actually. 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:32.720 Her father is a not well liked individual. 00:00:32.720 --> 00:00:37.330 And she seems to share the same politics and patronage, 00:00:37.330 --> 00:00:41.180 networking, their extended friends and so on. 00:00:41.400 --> 00:00:47.130 So, the Icelandic people are fierce and fiercely independent, 00:00:47.130 --> 00:00:51.590 and I’m sure they’re not going to be cowered by Liz Cheney. 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.910 Right, that was Liz Cheney, Cheney’s daughter. 00:00:54.910 --> 00:00:58.760 How are you protecting yourself at this point, Julian Assange? 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:02.130 Well, I would like to tell you all about it, Amy, 00:01:02.130 --> 00:01:04.640 but, you know, that might not be wise. 00:01:05.710 --> 00:01:11.390 However, there are countries, Western countries, 00:01:12.170 --> 00:01:13.730 even countries in NATO, 00:01:13.730 --> 00:01:18.410 that are strongly supportive of what we do politically. 00:01:18.550 --> 00:01:22.160 And, for example, the UK has announced— 00:01:22.160 --> 00:01:24.470 UK Parliament has announced two inquiries 00:01:25.300 --> 00:01:28.620 into Afghanistan, 00:01:28.620 --> 00:01:31.780 one on the civilian casualties 00:01:31.780 --> 00:01:34.760 and the other on what is the exit strategy 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:36.090 and how to get out of it. 00:01:36.090 --> 00:01:37.600 The Dutch government 00:01:38.600 --> 00:01:40.580 just formally announced 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:45.050 its exit from Afghanistan. 00:01:45.490 --> 00:01:51.490 And other governments around the world involved in the ISAF coalition have, 00:01:51.810 --> 00:01:54.270 in bigger and small ways, 00:01:54.370 --> 00:01:56.220 announced that they are trying 00:01:56.220 --> 00:01:58.720 to do something about the revelations in this material. 00:01:58.720 --> 00:02:00.800 And all of them 00:02:01.600 --> 00:02:05.840 are taking note of what the United States’ attitude is, 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:08.640 which is instead of immediately saying 00:02:08.640 --> 00:02:13.180 these revelations are a serious concern, 00:02:13.180 --> 00:02:18.750 we never wanted to harm Afghan civilians or to bribe the media, 00:02:18.750 --> 00:02:22.320 as an example of one of the revelations in there, 00:02:22.320 --> 00:02:26.430 and we intend to launch an immediate investigation 00:02:26.430 --> 00:02:31.150 to understand this and compensate those people accordingly 00:02:31.150 --> 00:02:32.480 and change our procedures— 00:02:32.480 --> 00:02:35.160 that’s what the rest of the world wants to hear. 00:02:35.160 --> 00:02:38.800 That’s what Afghanistan, the people of Afghanistan want to hear. 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.510 But instead they heard 00:02:40.710 --> 00:02:45.350 a personal attack on me and on our organization 00:02:45.350 --> 00:02:50.200 and an announcement that they would be going after 00:02:50.200 --> 00:02:53.310 the whistleblower or whistleblowers involved in this. 00:02:53.310 --> 00:02:57.450 And now we see them living up to those words 00:02:57.490 --> 00:02:59.960 and stalking around Boston, 00:02:59.960 --> 00:03:03.800 and spying and harassing MIT graduates, 00:03:04.110 --> 00:03:07.960 and trunking around the United Kingdom, 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:13.100 where they raided Manning, 00:03:13.100 --> 00:03:18.070 the alleged whistleblower, 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:21.280 for a video release called "Collateral Murder," 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.390 in her home in Wales. 00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:28.570 Well, Julian Assange, we’re going to leave it there, 00:03:28.570 --> 00:03:33.180 founder and editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks, speaking to us from abroad. 00:03:33.180 --> 00:03:36.290 This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, 00:03:36.290 --> 00:03:37.760 the War and Peace Report. 00:03:37.760 --> 00:03:39.400 And on that issue of "Collateral Murder," 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:44.950 what WikiLeaks called the video of July 12th, 2007, of a military, 00:03:44.950 --> 00:03:50.200 US military Apache attack on residents of Baghdad, 00:03:50.200 --> 00:03:52.300 two Reuters employees killed in that, 00:03:52.300 --> 00:03:54.340 you can go to our website, democracynow.org, 00:03:54.340 --> 00:03:55.880 to see the discussion and the video. 00:03:55.880 --> 00:03:57.490 And also an update to one of our headlines 00:03:57.490 --> 00:04:01.200 Al Jazeera is now reporting at least three lebani soldiers 00:04:01.200 --> 00:04:04.200 have been killed by israeli forces in a exchange of rocket and gun fire 00:04:04.200 --> 00:04:06.010 along the border between the two countries. 00:04:06.010 --> 00:04:09.790 A lebanist journalist was also killed and five more lebani soldiers wounded 00:04:09.790 --> 00:04:11.180 in Israeli shelling. 00:04:11.250 --> 00:04:13.550 At least two israeli soldiers were shot 00:04:13.710 --> 00:04:17.210 That does it for the show, Democracy Now is produced by Mike Berg 00:04:24.280 --> 00:04:26.930 Special thanks to Elizabeth Press, Julie Crosby, 00:04:31.460 --> 00:04:33.920 Our website is democracynow.org 00:04:34.230 --> 00:04:35.370 Thanks to also to 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:41.840 I am Amy Goodman, thank you so much for joining us