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Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.09,0:00:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Gina, and I've lost 23 debit cards.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.91,0:00:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't mean to, I'm just\Nan easily distracted person.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.87,0:00:19.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been known to show up\Nto events on the wrong date,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.44,0:00:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always miss my Tube stop,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.62,0:00:24.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I cannot for the life of me\Nwake up in the morning
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.19,0:00:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without feeling personally attacked.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.77,0:00:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm also young, I'm female,\NI'm working class,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.66,0:00:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not particularly academic -\NI kind of was average in school.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.88,0:00:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think these are all\Nsome of the reasons why
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.22,0:00:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I probably never felt like I could really\N'make a difference' growing up.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.21,0:00:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it turns out,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.23,0:00:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with long-term things,\NI'm actually pretty good,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.52,0:00:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with big ideas.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.20,0:00:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I might be the person\Nwho lost 23 debit cards,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.34,0:00:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm also a law changer.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.28,0:00:54.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was 25, I founded and ran\Nthe national media and political campaign
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.100,0:00:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make upskirting illegal.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.18,0:00:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.16,0:01:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) (Cheers)
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.44,0:01:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may have heard that story by now,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.20,0:01:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you have, it will have been\Nin clickbaity titles
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.82,0:01:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like 'I fought the law and won',\Nthat kind of thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.24,0:01:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality of it is,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.25,0:01:15.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is actually the most difficult\Nand uncomfortable period of my life.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.73,0:01:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would like to take this opportunity\Nto share that story with you now,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.26,0:01:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as it actually happened,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.21,0:01:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without the fierce-feminist\Nshiny wrapping of it,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.74,0:01:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with some of the biggest lessons\Nwe can learn along the way
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.70,0:01:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for the last time.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.74,0:01:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In July 2017, I was at a festival called\NBritish Summer Time in Hyde Park.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.30,0:01:35.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Me and my sister were\Nin a crowd of 60,000 people
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.59,0:01:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,waiting for The Killers to take the stage,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.93,0:01:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when a group of guys\Nstarted hitting on us.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.86,0:01:43.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the guys was making\Nloads of gross jokes
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.04,0:01:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and generally being really weird\Nand harassing us,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.68,0:01:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we asked him to leave us alone\Nmultiple times, but he wouldn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.62,0:01:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Five minutes later,\NI felt them all laughing at me.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.33,0:01:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the guys\Nwas standing in front of me,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.38,0:01:57.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I peered around\Nto see what he was doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.43,0:01:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was on his phone,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.45,0:02:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he'd been sent a really well-taken\Nphotograph of someone's crotch
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.76,0:02:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was taken up their skirt.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.19,0:02:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew it was me straight away.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.78,0:02:07.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grabbed the phone, and I started crying,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.79,0:02:11.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I held it up and was kind\Nof yelling about what he'd done.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.51,0:02:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then a couple of people\Nin the crowd helped me get away,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.31,0:02:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I ran through that crowd\Nholding his phone,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.52,0:02:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with him chasing me,\Nwhich was literally terrifying.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.94,0:02:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I managed to get a security guard,\Nwho protected me and called the police.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.71,0:02:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the police came,\Nthey separated me and the guy,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.54,0:02:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they said this to me,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.70,0:02:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'You should be able\Nto go to a festival at 30 degrees,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.50,0:02:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wear a skirt, and this not happen to you.'
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.46,0:02:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they also said,\N'We've had a look at the photo.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.04,0:02:41.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It shows more than you'd want it to show,\Nbut it's not a graphic image.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.12,0:02:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you'd chosen not to wear knickers,\Nwe could do something about this.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.46,0:02:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you did, so you\Nwon't hear much from us.'
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.83,0:02:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They told the guy to delete the photo,\Nso my evidence was gone,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.78,0:02:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they told us\Nto enjoy the rest of our night.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.25,0:02:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I tried to,\Nbut I felt humiliated and sad,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.40,0:02:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I knew the guys were probably\Njust carrying on with their night,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.59,0:03:00.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having a great time.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.93,0:03:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went home, and a few days later\NI got a call from the police,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.89,0:03:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they told me my case was dropped.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.16,0:03:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I swear to God,\Nwhen I put that phone down,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.78,0:03:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something inside me sort of snapped.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.56,0:03:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been dealing with sexual harassment\Nfor as long as I can remember,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.94,0:03:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'd been brushing it off,\Nand I was so over it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.72,0:03:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't believe that there wasn't a law\Ncovering this in some way.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.97,0:03:24.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I started to try to look into it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.93,0:03:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything I read was written\Nby politicians and law-makers,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.08,0:03:30.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,academic people who spoke with jargon,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.04,0:03:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't speak like me.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.47,0:03:34.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't really understand\Nwhat they were fully saying.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.16,0:03:35.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I looked into law,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.17,0:03:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I thought I'd found\Nthat upskirting was not a sexual offence,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.44,0:03:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I thought I must have got it wrong\Nbecause I'm not academic.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.44,0:03:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I asked a friend of mine who was\Na law student to look into it for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.97,0:03:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, 'You're right.'
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.39,0:03:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had found that upskirting,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.94,0:03:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the act of taking non-consensual photos\Nor video up someone's clothing,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.58,0:03:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was not a sexual offence\Nin England and Wales,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.74,0:03:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it had been in Scotland for 10 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.30,0:04:00.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We ask a lot from\Nvictims of sexual violence.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.33,0:04:01.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We question them,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.35,0:04:04.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we hold them to a higher standard\Nsometimes than we do perpetrators
Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.49,0:04:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the moments after an incident.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.07,0:04:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I had done everything asked of me.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.14,0:04:12.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd got witnesses, I'd kicked up a fuss,\NI had a photo, the phone.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.07,0:04:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I even handed the guy into the law,\Nand apparently it couldn't help me.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.39,0:04:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is where we learn\Nour first lesson:
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.80,0:04:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Women and marginalized genders\Nwho often deal with sexual violence
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.31,0:04:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shut their mouths
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.32,0:04:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we make it harder\Nfor them when they're open.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.63,0:04:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to stop acting
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.69,0:04:30.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like they're navigating\Nsome simple and perfect system.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.90,0:04:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.92,0:04:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're navigating one that's working\Nagainst them a lot of the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.33,0:04:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, when sexual harassment happens,\Nthere are one of two options.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.63,0:04:42.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Number one, you brush it off,\Nyou shut your mouth.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.05,0:04:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It happens, it is what it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.44,0:04:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Number two, you do something about it,\Nliterally anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.04,0:04:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's not funny,\Nit's not a joke, it's humiliating,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.87,0:04:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and someone should do something about it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.51,0:04:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can tell you right now\Nthat I'm good at number one.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.68,0:04:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Women and marginalized genders\Nare good at number one.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.22,0:05:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been doing number one\Nfor as long as we can remember,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.99,0:05:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are really, really\Nbored of number one.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.38,0:05:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Number one, I think,\Nhas affected me more than I know.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.91,0:05:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because of number one,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.96,0:05:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I watch news stories\Nabout this stuff,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.96,0:05:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I start crying out of nowhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.16,0:05:15.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When someone tells me a story\Nabout sexual harassment,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.69,0:05:18.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it somehow partly feels like it's mine\Nbecause of number one.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.97,0:05:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because of number one,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.22,0:05:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have struggled to articulate\Nthis problem for such a long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.14,0:05:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I'd shut my mouth about it,\Nand I didn't have the language.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.40,0:05:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm frustrated that year after year,\Nnumber one seems like our best option.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.98,0:05:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what about number two?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.04,0:05:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, well, number two isn't something\Nthat people like me do really.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.47,0:05:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Number two is for brave people,\Nliterally amazing people,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.58,0:05:50.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who are in power,\Npeople who didn't scrape by in school,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.55,0:05:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who have one debit card, I'd say.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.40,0:05:56.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who wrote those documents\NI struggled to read.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.49,0:05:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you see, I couldn't forget it,\Nthe upskirting thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.11,0:06:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because for me it felt somehow\Npossible to forget, for instance,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.12,0:06:04.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hand that had been on my bum\Non the Tube a year earlier,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.93,0:06:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that hand was no longer there -
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.79,0:06:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not easy, but possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.93,0:06:12.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I couldn't forget the upskirting thing\Nbecause they still had the photos.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.55,0:06:14.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They probably still do now.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.08,0:06:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It felt impossible for me to forget,\NI think, because they did straight away.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.54,0:06:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think they even thought\Nthey'd done that much wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.34,0:06:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And therein lies our problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.74,0:06:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few days later, while I was at work,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.54,0:06:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I put up this photo of me\Nand my sister at the festival
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.12,0:06:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happened to have\Nthe guys in the background.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.40,0:06:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, 'The law can't help me,\Nthe police can't help me,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.22,0:06:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but maybe social media can.'
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.56,0:06:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I asked people to share it\Nand identify the guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.04,0:06:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then Facebook got in contact with me
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.95,0:06:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and told me I'd violated\Ntheir community guidelines.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.50,0:06:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apparently, me putting this photo up\Nconstituted harassment against the guys,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.56,0:06:50.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but them taking photos up the skirt\Nand sharing them, no.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.24,0:06:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was incandescent with rage\Nat this point.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.58,0:06:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every single safety net that was meant\Nto have caught me hadn't,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.72,0:07:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the one thing I worked in\Nand had done for years
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.29,0:07:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was about democracy,\Ncommunity and human connection -
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.44,0:07:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social media -
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.45,0:07:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had also rejected me.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.23,0:07:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You remember what I said about a system\Nthat's working against you?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.38,0:07:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everything at this point\Nis forcing me back to number one,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.09,0:07:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to brush it off, to forget\Nabout it, 'it is what it is'.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.89,0:07:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think when Facebook censored me,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.63,0:07:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually just got angry enough\Nthat number one stopped being an option.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.27,0:07:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not really embarrassed\Nabout the anger either
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.80,0:07:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because here's our second lesson:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.38,0:07:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anger is a very normal response\Nto having your human rights compromised.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.75,0:07:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's important to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.27,0:07:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to stop using it\Nto delegitimise people,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.77,0:07:35.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with 'angry feminist'\Nor 'angry Black woman',
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.12,0:07:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of these stereotypes.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.66,0:07:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People are allowed to be angry\Nabout this stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.90,0:07:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have to hold space for them there.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.98,0:07:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to realise it's not about us.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.02,0:07:47.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd been put up with, I don't know,\Nbeing shouted at from cars.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.27,0:07:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd had my bum grabbed in bars.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.76,0:07:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a stalking case for two years\Nagainst a guy from school
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.92,0:07:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that ended in nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.38,0:07:55.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was 19 and I worked\Nat a rowdy student bar,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.85,0:07:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a security guard,\Nwho was employed to protect me,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.26,0:08:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,felt my boobs 'to see\Nif I was wearing a stab-proof vest'.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.66,0:08:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was angry that every woman I know\Nhas dealt with sexual harassment,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.91,0:08:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was angry enough for the first time\Nthat number two became the only option -
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.76,0:08:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do something about it,\Nliterally anything.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.08,0:08:12.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I started a social media campaign.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.100,0:08:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, 'OK, in work,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.39,0:08:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if I can start a campaign to make people\Ncare about whisky, for instance,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.83,0:08:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can do it with something like this\Nthat actually matters.'
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.64,0:08:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd launched a petition,\NI wrote Facebook ads,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.79,0:08:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did editorials,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.16,0:08:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's when I realised this:
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.86,0:08:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Social media is the single\Nmost important democratising tool
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.73,0:08:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've ever had in social change.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.13,0:08:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can be used by anyone,\Nat any time, for good.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.78,0:08:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And traditional institutions\Nreally don't understand it,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.41,0:08:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can use that.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.65,0:08:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Almost as soon as I started\Nasking the question,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.00,0:08:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Why is upskirting not a sexual offence?'
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.95,0:08:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people started answering.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.33,0:08:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My DMs became full of stories.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.54,0:08:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Young girls telling me about pictures\Nbeing taken up their skirts on the Tube.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.21,0:08:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trans women telling me that people's\Nobsession with their genitals
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.30,0:08:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had lead to them being\Nvictimised with upskirting.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.96,0:09:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had messages from teachers
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.30,0:09:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,telling me young boys\Nwere coming up with plans
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.42,0:09:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get pictures of the teachers together.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.38,0:09:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got messages from Japan,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.81,0:09:10.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it is such a problem\Nthat they have redesigned phones
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.57,0:09:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you can't turn off\Nthe camera shutter sound.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.77,0:09:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So women are 'alerted'\Nit's happening to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.91,0:09:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I started getting messages from kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.38,0:09:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were all coming\Nfrom the same place, I recognised -
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.20,0:09:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a school in South London
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.62,0:09:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the teacher had been upskirting\Nthe kids for months.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.12,0:09:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They found thousands of photos,\Nbut they couldn't convict him
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.97,0:09:33.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because what he did didn't constitute\Na criminal offence under that current law.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.04,0:09:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These kids who are messaging with me,\Npleading with me to do something,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.37,0:09:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couldn't even vote.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.95,0:09:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have no democratic\Nvoice whatsoever.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.85,0:09:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But social media gave them\Na direct line to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.26,0:09:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And thank God it did
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.94,0:09:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that was when I realised\Nthis is way bigger than me and my case.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.32,0:09:50.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And instead of me\Nstanding up and being like,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.43,0:09:52.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Someone should do something'\Nand pointing fingers,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.42,0:09:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, 'Alright,\NI'll try and do something.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.21,0:09:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to do it,\Nbut I'll try and change the law.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.97,0:10:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll give it a go because maybe\NI'll make it easier for someone who can.'
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.37,0:10:06.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Honestly, I genuinely think I just needed\Nsomewhere to put my frustration.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.100,0:10:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that makes sense to me now.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.74,0:10:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because here's our next lesson:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.91,0:10:13.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Action really is the cure for fear.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.03,0:10:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With these things, fear and frustration\Nreally fester in you,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.12,0:10:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but taking an action, even if it's small,\Ncan metabolise that back into power again.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.12,0:10:22.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what it did for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.74,0:10:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first thing I did\Nwhen I thought about changing the law
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.77,0:10:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was I googled, I literally wrote,\N'How does one change the law?'
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.62,0:10:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and nothing came up.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.55,0:10:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realised I was going to have\Nto figure this out on my own.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.55,0:10:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also realised that social media\Nand shouting about it on there
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.55,0:10:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was great for awareness,\Nbut it wasn't going to change the law.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.50,0:10:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to get really clever and strategic.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.46,0:10:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to do that, I had to be\Nreally honest with myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.25,0:10:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm good at campaigning,\NI can motivate people,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.61,0:10:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I understand this issue\Nmore than anyone, really,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.44,0:10:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I don't really understand politics,\Nand I don't really understand the law.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.04,0:10:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And those are two pretty big\Npieces of the puzzle
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.34,0:11:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're going to go into politics\Nand change the law.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.92,0:11:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I needed to find someone who did,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.65,0:11:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I had to show them\Nthat I was really serious.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.60,0:11:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went mainstream with the campaign.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.46,0:11:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I packaged up the numbers\Nfrom social media,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.51,0:11:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started talking\Nto TV producers and editors
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.08,0:11:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing them there was conversation\Nhappening online.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.96,0:11:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first piece of media I did\Nwas Good Morning Britain.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.77,0:11:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Piers Morgan was sadly not in that week,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.10,0:11:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I did get to sit opposite\Na female police officer,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.16,0:11:27.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who told me that the police had\N'more important things to deal with'
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.35,0:11:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that I should wear trousers.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.15,0:11:31.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the height of those media appearances,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.11,0:11:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I used all that publicity,\Nand I started contacting law firms,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.01,0:11:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,showing them my proven theory on the law\Nand all the public support I had.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.85,0:11:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then three days after I started\Nthat, I found Ryan Whelan,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.46,0:11:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was a 29-year-old lawyer.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.58,0:11:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was a human rights fanatic,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.87,0:11:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was unjaded by the industry,\Nand he was a complete political nut.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.31,0:11:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we got to work together.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.66,0:11:55.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started creating a political strategy\Nand a media strategy
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.51,0:11:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that complemented each other.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.96,0:11:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We looked at the Scottish Law,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.39,0:12:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he created the new\Nlegislation we needed here.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.01,0:12:03.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we went and got\Nthe best legal authorities in the UK
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.88,0:12:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to corroborate that and stand behind it.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.15,0:12:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did that because it meant\Nwhen we went into Parliament,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.12,0:12:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were making it\Nas easy as possible for MPs.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.28,0:12:13.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were just giving them\Na solution, not a problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.74,0:12:16.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We met with MPs from all parties.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.77,0:12:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was really important to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.44,0:12:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's because this wasn't\Na Labour issue or a Conservative issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.43,0:12:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a human issue.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.61,0:12:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that 's when I learnt this:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.36,0:12:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Human rights aren't about party politics.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.92,0:12:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Party politics is a game, I've seen it.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.48,0:12:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Human rights are about values and morals.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.48,0:12:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So instead of everything\Nbeing left or right,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.59,0:12:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upskirting being a 'lefty issue',
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.71,0:12:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's start looking up and down more.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.30,0:12:44.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who is society harder on?\NWho is society easier for?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.39,0:12:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we start doing that,\Nwe'll start getting work done.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.95,0:12:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After months of meetings,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.73,0:12:53.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd kind of built an army of MPs\Nin those four walls,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.85,0:12:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we tabled a private member's\Nbill to change the law.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.28,0:12:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A year of politics ensued.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.18,0:13:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That bill was killed and objected to\Nby an MP called Christopher Chope,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.84,0:13:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who, when I asked him why,\Ntold me, and I quote, 'He hadn't read it.'
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.43,0:13:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said he objected on principle,\Nbut that was disproved.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.33,0:13:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you ask me, he saw this as trivial -
Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.16,0:13:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of people do.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.67,0:13:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he also didn't like the young girl\Ncoming in and getting a bill through,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.24,0:13:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he's tabled 47 of his own.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.72,0:13:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's politics.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.77,0:13:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are good people in there, though.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.63,0:13:29.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next day, me and Ryan met\Nwith the Justice Minister, Lucy Frazer,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.89,0:13:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we tabled a government bill\Nthat couldn't be objected to by MPs.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.91,0:13:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We saw that bill through for a year -
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.20,0:13:38.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a year that I was fraught with nerves
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.64,0:13:41.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this thing we'd almost done\Nmight fall at the last hurdle.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.61,0:13:44.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But thankfully, January 2019 came,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.24,0:13:46.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and me, and my family, and Ryan
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.23,0:13:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,squeezed in to the gallery\Nat the House of Lords,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.54,0:13:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we watched them\Npass our law unamended,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.52,0:13:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practically as we created it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.28,0:13:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's the kind of law you get
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.90,0:13:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it's driven by someone\Nwho has lived the problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.83,0:13:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cheers)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.12,0:14:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.14,0:14:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.11,0:14:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I went to the pub,\Nand I drank my weight in red wine,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.78,0:14:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I cried a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.87,0:14:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I danced to '90s pop,\Nand I ate pizza with my mum
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.61,0:14:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's survivors deserve.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.31,0:14:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)
Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.18,0:14:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the eight months\Nafter we outlawed upskirting,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.48,0:14:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there had been one report to police\Nalmost every single day.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.36,0:14:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We prosecuted 10 men by Christmas.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.06,0:14:37.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One was a convicted paedophile\Nwho got two years in prison.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.09,0:14:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another was a man who was seen filming\Nunder a 16-year-old girl's skirt
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.43,0:14:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a supermarket,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.44,0:14:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when police arrested him, they found\N250,000 indecent images of children.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.18,0:14:47.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This law isn't catching upskirters.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.87,0:14:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's catching sexual offenders,\Npredators, paedophiles.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.43,0:14:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's because of this next lesson:
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.11,0:14:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All misogyny and sexual\Nviolence is connected.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.72,0:15:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore, all of it is the problem,\Nnone of it is trivial.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.90,0:15:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to remember that.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.92,0:15:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The coverage that followed\Nthe law change was lovely.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.42,0:15:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really powerful and positive.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.14,0:15:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I needed that,\Nwe needed that, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.14,0:15:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It felt good to have someone\Nwho took on the establishment,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.91,0:15:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was normal and won.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.26,0:15:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I started to feel weird
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.76,0:15:20.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the two years campaigning\Nwasn't actually like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.57,0:15:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was what campaigning was like.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.80,0:15:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I will cry, but it's OK
Dialogue: 0,0:15:25.11,0:15:27.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because not crying\Nisn't about power anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.51,0:15:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can still be powerful and cry.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.19,0:15:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got online abuse, rape threats,\Nslut-shaming for two years.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.25,0:15:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I still get them now.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.50,0:15:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I want you to read these
Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.83,0:15:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as if you're reading them\Nabout someone you love.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.13,0:15:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because -
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.57,0:15:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Sniffs)
Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.12,0:15:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have to stop calling them trolls\Nbecause they're not.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.74,0:15:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're the people who work\Nin coffee shops that serve you coffee.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.83,0:15:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They work in your offices,\Nthey're everywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.98,0:15:58.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're people who are so angry\Nabout a woman standing up for herself
Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.53,0:16:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they will threaten her with rape.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.34,0:16:01.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's a lot of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.76,0:16:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know you don't want to hear this\Nbecause we never do,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.54,0:16:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're all guys.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.59,0:16:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cries)
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.12,0:16:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No doubt when this video goes up\Non YouTube, I'll get more of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.24,0:16:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And among the nice comments,\Nthe supportive ones - because there are -
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.64,0:16:19.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the hard ones,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.31,0:16:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be one phrase\Nthat comes up again and again.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.90,0:16:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not the scariest I've dealt with,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.71,0:16:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is the most effective\Nat derailing this important conversation.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.01,0:16:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will say, 'Not all men.'
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.06,0:16:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to that I'll say this,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.38,0:16:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'No, not all men, but too many.'
Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.80,0:16:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Too many men, for some reason,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.48,0:16:41.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel entitled to women\Nand marginalized genders' bodies.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.12,0:16:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Too many men, whether\Nthrough action or inaction,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.48,0:16:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are perpetuating a culture of sexism
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.90,0:16:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that breeds inequality\Nand that leads to violence.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.79,0:16:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you want to use\Nthe phrase 'Not all men',
Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.09,0:16:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how about we use it like this?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.03,0:16:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Not all men are calling out their friends
Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.04,0:16:59.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he says something to a woman\Nhe would never say to a guy.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.57,0:17:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not all men are looking up these phrases,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.55,0:17:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learning what rape culture really is,\Nhow misogyny really operates.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.96,0:17:07.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And no, not all men are perpetrators,\Nof course they're not.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.96,0:17:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all the ones who aren't\Nshould be solving this with us.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:12.29,0:17:14.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because maybe if they were,\Nwe'd be living in a society
Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.87,0:17:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where when I talk to guys\Nor male politicians about sexual violence,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.37,0:17:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want to solve it with me
Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.75,0:17:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than they want to prove\Nthat they're not the problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.81,0:17:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe if we were living in that world,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.64,0:17:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when someone upskirts me\Nand takes photos without my consent,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.50,0:17:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have to almost lose it,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.02,0:17:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creating a law that should\Nhave already been there for me.'
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.72,0:17:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because here's the thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.89,0:17:40.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When good men do engage with this work,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.57,0:17:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they really want to solve this,\Nand they meaningfully engage, it works.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.50,0:17:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without Ryan as my ally,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.71,0:17:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demanding a seat for me in Parliament,\Namplifying my voice, listening to me -
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.34,0:17:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the law wouldn't have changed.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.25,0:17:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are good men\Nthat I know and love
Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.44,0:17:58.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reading the books on gender,\Nfeminism, racism.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.44,0:18:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're doing the work,\Nthey're going to the events and listening.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.55,0:18:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not waiting for a woman\Nto explain this stuff to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.45,0:18:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But from where I stand, there's too few.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.95,0:18:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we need more of you.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.02,0:18:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that brings us onto our final\Nand most important lesson:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.79,0:18:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Communities that are oppressed\Nshould not be left to dismantle
Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.72,0:18:21.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the thing that's been built against them.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.45,0:18:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to listen to your privilege,\Nlearn about it and use it
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.46,0:18:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and assist them in that fight.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.10,0:18:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, I know listening to this is heavy,\NI get it, I'm tired too.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.25,0:18:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I'm also positive,\Nand I'm strong like you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.69,0:18:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I genuinely believe we can solve this.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.04,0:18:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every day in this work\NI get to see amazing people
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.38,0:18:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are pushing to make\Nthe world a better place.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.67,0:18:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see it all the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.73,0:18:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hate and intolerance\Nare very loud, they scream.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.98,0:18:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But good people, compassionate people,\Nare quiet and humble.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:51.81,0:18:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're getting on with the work.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.38,0:18:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You might not hear them,\Nbut they're there.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.40,0:18:57.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yes, there may always be\Na level of inequality,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.77,0:19:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we can shorten those\Npeaks and troughs if we want to.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.46,0:19:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's on me, that's on all of you.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.48,0:19:05.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when you leave this room tonight,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.31,0:19:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a think about\Nwhere you hold privilege -
Dialogue: 0,0:19:07.42,0:19:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it might be in your job,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.56,0:19:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a parent, as a teacher,\Nor just in the colour of your skin -
Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.98,0:19:14.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start this work now.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.29,0:19:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stop laughing at the jokes,\Nbuy the book, go to the event,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.30,0:19:21.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diversify your social feeds,\Nask the questions.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.03,0:19:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sympathy is soothing,\Nbut it doesn't go far enough.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.42,0:19:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Action does.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.42,0:19:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And listen, you'll get things wrong.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.15,0:19:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all do, I've had some clangers.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.79,0:19:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not about perfection,\Nit's about progress,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.17,0:19:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's about doing it\Nbecause it's the right thing to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.66,0:19:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are so done with waiting for society\Nto 'change things' for us.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.94,0:19:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We literally are society.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.73,0:19:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And let's be honest,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.76,0:19:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if someone who's lost\N23 debit cards can change a law,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.38,0:19:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I feel like you can do something too.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.39,0:19:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter)
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.41,0:19:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much,\NI've been Gina Martin.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.42,0:19:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) (Cheers)