0:00:04.564,0:00:08.901 <Attaining Enlightenment[br]Through Meditation> 0:00:08.901,0:00:17.577 (Questioner) Hi Sunim, thanks [br]for giving me a chance to ask a question. 0:00:17.577,0:00:22.736 So, I have a question on meditation[br]and studying Buddhist scripture. 0:00:22.736,0:00:27.626 I learned that the Buddha achieved[br]a peaceful mind and profound enlightenment 0:00:27.626,0:00:29.493 through meditation. 0:00:29.493,0:00:33.302 I am trying to practice meditation[br]for the same purpose, 0:00:33.302,0:00:39.838 but as a beginner who hasn't gone[br]through the path, I have some doubts 0:00:39.838,0:00:46.135 about how I can achieve such a deep state[br]of enlightenment through not thinking. 0:00:46.135,0:00:54.557 Could you explain how meditation can lead[br]to such peace of mind and enlightenment? 0:00:54.557,0:01:04.211 (Sunim) All our suffering actually happens[br]because we think too much. 0:01:04.211,0:01:21.423 So, we need to truly liberate ourselves[br]from our preconceptions of ethics, 0:01:21.423,0:01:30.680 morality, religious faith, and other[br]paradigms. These guard our thoughts. 0:01:30.680,0:01:36.509 For example: 0:01:36.509,0:01:52.330 Say a man and a woman who like[br]each other have become lovers. 0:01:52.330,0:02:03.015 So, in a regular relationship between[br]two ordinary people, they like each other. 0:02:03.015,0:02:17.905 However, if they are Buddhist clergy[br]or Catholic clergy, they have been taught 0:02:17.905,0:02:23.257 not to engage[br]in sexual relationships. 0:02:23.257,0:02:35.112 So, those people[br]who are trained in that way, 0:02:35.112,0:02:39.209 while they enjoy being with the other[br]person in a romantic relationship, 0:02:39.209,0:02:42.117 also feel guilt. 0:02:42.117,0:02:59.482 So, that guilt, that negative feeling[br]they have, is not the result of their 0:02:59.482,0:03:02.947 actually having a romantic relationship[br]with another person they like. 0:03:02.947,0:03:09.852 It comes down to their own preconceptions[br]that they shouldn't be doing this. 0:03:09.852,0:03:30.322 So, a lot of the suffering and issues[br]we experience today actually happen 0:03:30.322,0:03:34.523 because of the contradiction or collision[br]between what is happening in reality, 0:03:34.523,0:03:40.334 what we experience in reality, and our[br]preconceptions of how things should be. 0:03:40.334,0:03:56.363 That suffering disappears[br]when we erase the contradiction 0:03:56.363,0:04:03.833 of choosing to abandon our[br]preconceptions and accept reality as it is 0:04:03.833,0:04:08.123 or adhere to those preconceptions[br]and give up what we want in this reality. 0:04:08.123,0:04:26.252 However, we can never solve this problem[br]as long as we try to adhere 0:04:26.252,0:04:29.759 to our preconceptions[br]while simultaneously trying to get 0:04:29.759,0:04:34.204 what we want in reality, because[br]that contradiction will always persist. 0:04:34.204,0:04:38.342 So, another example: 0:04:38.342,0:04:53.094 If there are traditional ethics or morals[br]that say men and women of certain ages 0:04:53.094,0:04:58.997 can't see each other as romantic partners,[br]then doing so creates suffering. 0:04:58.997,0:05:11.396 Similarly, if we're taught that divorce is[br]unacceptable after marriage, 0:05:11.396,0:05:17.036 yet circumstances call for separation[br]or divorce, 0:05:17.036,0:05:21.315 this contradiction creates[br]suffering. 0:05:21.315,0:05:29.007 But in the natural course of things,[br]people come together 0:05:29.007,0:05:31.330 and separate all the time. 0:05:31.330,0:05:39.466 It's all coming together.[br]It's not the cause of our suffering. 0:05:39.466,0:05:42.550 Separation or divorce is[br]not the cause of our suffering. 0:05:42.550,0:05:54.082 It's our preconceptions of "what ought to[br]be" that actually cause our suffering, 0:05:54.082,0:05:58.045 whether it's a first meeting[br]or a separation. 0:05:58.045,0:06:12.637 If we can just erase "what ought to be,"[br]then we actually eliminate 0:06:12.637,0:06:20.129 a lot of suffering[br]from our own internal conflicts. 0:06:20.129,0:06:57.831 For example, when we teach our daughters[br]that having sex before marriage is a sin, 0:06:57.831,0:07:05.306 and they then engage in premarital sex, it[br]causes them a lot of internal suffering. 0:07:05.306,0:07:14.563 We don't teach our sons this as much,[br]so they may engage in premarital sex 0:07:14.563,0:07:17.206 without the same level of guilt.[br]This is all because 0:07:17.206,0:07:22.580 of the preconceptions[br]that we instill in our children. 0:07:22.580,0:07:34.933 For example, if you stop thinking[br]right now, there is no cost to suffer. 0:07:34.933,0:07:43.476 So, that is why the foundational piece[br]of our meditation is to stop thinking. 0:07:43.476,0:07:50.933 What position you take,[br]however you breathe, 0:07:50.933,0:07:54.930 all that doesn't really matter. 0:07:54.930,0:08:08.360 Many of you say you meditate,[br]but you end up quietly thinking. 0:08:08.360,0:08:10.581 That is thinking,[br]not meditating. 0:08:10.581,0:08:16.932 Thinking good thoughts does not mean[br]you meditate well. 0:08:16.932,0:08:24.044 Meditation is[br]a state of absence of thoughts. 0:08:24.044,0:08:31.509 If your thinking stops,[br]most of your suffering will go away. 0:08:31.509,0:08:40.375 But once you try it,[br]you will know your thinking does not stop. 0:08:40.375,0:08:52.380 Naturally, your thinking is amplified[br]by 2, 3, 10 times more. 0:08:52.380,0:08:59.630 So when you are meditating,[br]your body may be still, 0:08:59.630,0:09:02.780 but you are[br]always thinking. 0:09:02.780,0:09:15.231 So how do you stop thinking?[br]Because if you intend to stop thinking, 0:09:15.231,0:09:18.794 that intention itself gets[br]amplified. 0:09:18.794,0:09:25.245 That is why the old teachers told us[br]this: 0:09:25.245,0:09:32.074 There's dust[br]flying all over the room. 0:09:32.074,0:09:36.742 And we don't see it well.[br]It is almost invisible. 0:09:36.742,0:09:41.931 But if there's a ray of sunlight coming[br]through the room, 0:09:41.931,0:09:48.120 we suddenly realize[br]that a lot of dust is floating around. 0:09:48.120,0:10:02.320 And we take a cloth or duster[br]and try to dust it off. 0:10:02.320,0:10:06.870 We realize[br]that we are actually creating more dust. 0:10:06.870,0:10:12.361 Then, what do we do?[br]We just have to let it be. 0:10:12.361,0:10:20.783 As time passes,[br]most of the dust will gradually settle. 0:10:20.783,0:10:39.271 So basically, what they're saying is[br]that we constantly live 0:10:39.271,0:10:45.064 in a flux of thoughts and distractions,[br]but we don't realize it 0:10:45.064,0:10:50.178 because we lack a single ray of light[br]to actually illuminate them. 0:10:50.178,0:11:07.164 So, the fact that you actually sit down[br]and start realizing 0:11:07.164,0:11:12.951 how dusty the room in your mind is,[br]is not a failure in the meditation. 0:11:12.951,0:11:16.710 It's actually a process[br]of meditating on that recognition. 0:11:16.710,0:11:25.844 It's the same as seeing that single ray[br]of light illuminating all that dust. 0:11:25.844,0:11:34.228 That first realization[br]that "I live amidst all this dust, 0:11:34.228,0:11:36.659 in these distracting thoughts". 0:11:36.659,0:11:49.217 Then you start engaging in a kind[br]of performance-oriented meditation, 0:11:49.217,0:11:52.475 in which you want to do meditation[br]better and faster. 0:11:52.475,0:11:57.104 Thereby creating more distractions[br]and letting dust fly even more. 0:11:57.104,0:12:00.622 You have to just[br]let it be. 0:12:00.622,0:12:07.901 But it doesn't really settle that quickly[br]because it just flies around. 0:12:07.901,0:12:15.397 That's why the strategy is[br]to focus your thoughts on one thing. 0:12:15.397,0:12:25.852 The easiest thing to focus your thoughts[br]on is your breath. 0:12:25.852,0:12:38.115 Basically, it is a strategy[br]of focusing 0:12:38.115,0:12:42.537 on the inhalation and exhalation[br]of your breath. 0:12:42.537,0:12:51.336 In Pali, it is called Ānāpāna. 0:12:51.336,0:13:05.327 Another strategy that came up[br]during Zen Buddhist tradition is a Koan, 0:13:05.327,0:13:08.277 just to focus[br]on one single thought. 0:13:08.277,0:13:13.488 Or one single question[br]like "Who am I?". 0:13:13.488,0:13:17.664 Just focus[br]on that single question. 0:13:17.664,0:13:23.434 You know,[br]other thoughts will constantly be there. 0:13:23.434,0:13:26.591 You just let them be. 0:13:26.591,0:13:35.215 The only thing you actually focus[br]on is that single question. 0:13:35.215,0:13:43.127 For example, say you read a book[br]in the middle of the forest. 0:13:43.127,0:13:46.658 There are birds tweeting. 0:13:46.658,0:13:49.339 You hear a stream. 0:13:49.339,0:13:52.127 And you hear cars down the road. 0:13:52.127,0:13:55.528 So you can't really focus. 0:13:55.528,0:13:59.778 If the cars were not running, 0:13:59.778,0:14:03.424 if the birds stopped tweeting, 0:14:03.424,0:14:06.947 if the stream stopped running; 0:14:06.947,0:14:14.130 then you could actually focus[br]in a quiet forest, right? 0:14:14.130,0:14:19.481 But you can't stop those things. 0:14:19.481,0:14:27.912 Just because you stop those externalities[br]doesn't guarantee that you can focus. 0:14:27.912,0:14:54.524 But if you really focus on the book[br]and get into the substance, 0:14:54.524,0:14:57.046 birds may tweet,[br]but you don't pay attention; 0:14:57.046,0:15:00.554 cars may run on the road nearby,[br]but you don't pay attention, 0:15:00.554,0:15:03.435 nor do you pay attention[br]to the stream beside you 0:15:03.435,0:15:07.940 because you are really focused;[br]you are in that zone of focus. 0:15:07.940,0:15:17.950 So, meditation is all about the absence[br]of thoughts, but from a strategic 0:15:17.950,0:15:23.200 perspective, it's all about focusing[br]on that one single thought. 0:15:23.200,0:15:31.906 Let's say you focus[br]on the breath in and breath out. 0:15:31.906,0:15:39.430 So, when the breath comes in[br]to know that the breath is coming in. 0:15:39.430,0:15:46.660 You are not thinking[br]about the breath coming in. 0:15:46.660,0:16:01.995 This is a kind of sensory experience:[br]the flow of the air as it actually travels 0:16:01.995,0:16:06.057 over your skin, through your nostrils,[br]as it enters your lungs. 0:16:06.057,0:16:17.023 And you also feel that kind of tactile[br]sense of the breath and leaf in your nose. 0:16:17.023,0:16:22.780 This is experiencing,[br]not thinking. 0:16:22.780,0:16:26.692 You are just experiencing[br]that breath. 0:16:26.692,0:16:32.275 You might think of your mother[br]at that time. 0:16:32.275,0:16:42.464 But once you actually get distracted[br]by the thought of your mother, 0:16:42.464,0:16:45.494 you start thinking,[br]"Oh, what about the time we went 0:16:45.494,0:16:47.816 on a picnic with my mom?[br]What about the time 0:16:47.816,0:16:49.237 we had an argument with her?" 0:16:49.237,0:16:53.935 So, you actually create narratives[br]around those thoughts. 0:16:53.935,0:16:58.214 This becomes a distraction. 0:16:58.214,0:17:05.780 So, you can't really stop the thought[br]of your mother rising. 0:17:05.780,0:17:12.429 But despite whatever thoughts come to you,[br]you keep focusing on the breath. 0:17:12.429,0:17:18.160 Basically, do not pay attention[br]or give energy to that thought. 0:17:18.160,0:17:21.459 And then the thoughts[br]kind of dissipate. 0:17:21.459,0:17:23.828 Then other thoughts will come. 0:17:23.828,0:17:26.221 You'll think about coffee. 0:17:26.221,0:17:29.899 But nevertheless,[br]you focus on the breath. 0:17:29.899,0:17:33.148 Then the thought of coffee dissipates. 0:17:33.148,0:17:45.328 So you will have countless thoughts[br]rise and fall, rise and fall, 0:17:45.328,0:17:48.374 as long as you don't pay attention[br]to them. 0:17:48.374,0:18:00.273 But once you start actually doing it,[br]when you think of coffee, 0:18:00.273,0:18:02.902 you kind of follow it[br]and create a story out of it; 0:18:02.902,0:18:06.772 "What kind of coffee do I want?[br]With whom do I want this coffee?". 0:18:06.772,0:18:13.672 At that time, you have already lost[br]that focus on your breath. 0:18:13.672,0:18:19.938 Because your attention can only focus[br]on one thing at a time. 0:18:19.938,0:18:24.076 If you focus on here,[br]you lose focus there. 0:18:24.076,0:18:29.774 And if you pay attention there,[br]you lose attention here. 0:18:29.774,0:18:40.286 Thoughts are just that;[br]as long as you don't pay attention 0:18:40.286,0:18:43.678 to them, they will just rise and fall,[br]rise and fall. 0:18:43.678,0:18:57.319 So, when we say we are distracted,[br]those random thoughts are 0:18:57.319,0:19:01.104 not distractions in themselves.[br]It really becomes a source of distraction 0:19:01.104,0:19:05.160 when you start creating stories[br]around those thoughts. 0:19:05.160,0:19:27.084 So, if you keep practicing, the time[br]you can sustain focus on a single breath 0:19:27.084,0:19:30.786 before getting distracted can increase[br]to 1 minute, then 5 minutes, 0:19:30.786,0:19:33.249 and then 10 minutes.[br]It will gradually increase. 0:19:33.250,0:19:46.270 So, the attention span[br]on that single breath will continue 0:19:46.270,0:19:52.790 to increase,[br]and you will experience less distraction. 0:19:52.790,0:20:07.908 Then you start actually gaining autonomy.[br]You are no longer beholden 0:20:07.908,0:20:11.546 to your past memories[br]or future hopes. 0:20:11.546,0:20:26.018 The reason you get angry, you get sad,[br]you feel this emotion and that is 0:20:26.018,0:20:29.781 because all these past memories come[br]haunting you. 0:20:29.781,0:20:45.573 You become fearful, anxious, and nervous[br]because you are thinking about the future. 0:20:45.573,0:20:55.744 So, if you are not captured[br]by thoughts of the future, 0:20:55.744,0:20:58.977 then all your anxiety and nervousness[br]will go away. 0:20:58.977,0:21:10.821 So that is why we teach to be awakened[br]in the here and now, 0:21:10.821,0:21:12.978 without being captured[br]by your past memories 0:21:12.978,0:21:16.636 or the future[br]that has not come yet. 0:21:16.636,0:21:28.138 So even if a thought[br]about Buddha comes unbidden to you 0:21:28.138,0:21:32.237 while meditating,[br]that is just another distraction. 0:21:32.237,0:21:41.930 So, just singular focus on that breath;[br]everything else is a distraction. 0:21:41.930,0:21:55.521 If it's a Zen Koan,[br]anything that falls outside the scope 0:21:55.521,0:21:59.342 of exploring that question is[br]a distraction. 0:21:59.342,0:22:09.622 And so, in that state, even what you read[br]in the scriptures, sutras, 0:22:09.622,0:22:12.692 or even Buddha's own teachings[br]are just distractions. 0:22:12.692,0:22:22.142 That is why there is a teaching:[br]if you see a Buddha, 0:22:22.142,0:22:24.347 if you think about the Buddha,[br]kill the Buddha. 0:22:24.347,0:22:27.868 If you encounter your teacher,[br]kill the teacher. 0:22:27.868,0:22:37.472 So, we don't really mean to[br]literally kill them, 0:22:37.472,0:22:41.055 but obviously, we are saying is[br]to not pay them any mind. 0:22:41.055,0:22:44.339 They are just distractions. 0:22:44.339,0:22:47.288 Sorry for the lengthy response. 0:22:47.288,0:22:48.778 (Sunim/Questioner Laughter) 0:22:48.778,0:22:49.758 (Questioner) Thanks. 0:22:49.758,0:22:51.488 (Audience Applause)