WEBVTT 00:00:04.564 --> 00:00:08.901 <Attaining Enlightenment Through Meditation> 00:00:08.901 --> 00:00:17.577 (Questioner) Hi Sunim, thanks for giving me a chance to ask a question. 00:00:17.577 --> 00:00:22.736 So, I have a question on meditation and studying Buddhist scripture. 00:00:22.736 --> 00:00:27.626 I learned that the Buddha achieved a peaceful mind and profound enlightenment 00:00:27.626 --> 00:00:29.493 through meditation. 00:00:29.493 --> 00:00:33.302 I am trying to practice meditation for the same purpose, 00:00:33.302 --> 00:00:39.838 but as a beginner who hasn't gone through the path, I have some doubts 00:00:39.838 --> 00:00:46.135 about how I can achieve such a deep state of enlightenment through not thinking. 00:00:46.135 --> 00:00:54.557 Could you explain how meditation can lead to such peace of mind and enlightenment? 00:00:54.557 --> 00:01:04.211 (Sunim) All our suffering actually happens because we think too much. 00:01:04.211 --> 00:01:21.423 So, we need to truly liberate ourselves from our preconceptions of ethics, 00:01:21.423 --> 00:01:30.680 morality, religious faith, and other paradigms. These guard our thoughts. 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:36.509 For example: 00:01:36.509 --> 00:01:52.330 Say a man and a woman who like each other have become lovers. 00:01:52.330 --> 00:02:03.015 So, in a regular relationship between two ordinary people, they like each other. 00:02:03.015 --> 00:02:17.905 However, if they are Buddhist clergy or Catholic clergy, they have been taught 00:02:17.905 --> 00:02:23.257 not to engage in sexual relationships. 00:02:23.257 --> 00:02:35.112 So, those people who are trained in that way, 00:02:35.112 --> 00:02:39.209 while they enjoy being with the other person in a romantic relationship, 00:02:39.209 --> 00:02:42.117 also feel guilt. 00:02:42.117 --> 00:02:59.482 So, that guilt, that negative feeling they have, is not the result of their 00:02:59.482 --> 00:03:02.947 actually having a romantic relationship with another person they like. 00:03:02.947 --> 00:03:09.852 It comes down to their own preconceptions that they shouldn't be doing this. 00:03:09.852 --> 00:03:30.322 So, a lot of the suffering and issues we experience today actually happen 00:03:30.322 --> 00:03:34.523 because of the contradiction or collision between what is happening in reality, 00:03:34.523 --> 00:03:40.334 what we experience in reality, and our preconceptions of how things should be. 00:03:40.334 --> 00:03:56.363 That suffering disappears when we erase the contradiction 00:03:56.363 --> 00:04:03.833 of choosing to abandon our preconceptions and accept reality as it is 00:04:03.833 --> 00:04:08.123 or adhere to those preconceptions and give up what we want in this reality. 00:04:08.123 --> 00:04:26.252 However, we can never solve this problem as long as we try to adhere 00:04:26.252 --> 00:04:29.759 to our preconceptions while simultaneously trying to get 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:34.204 what we want in reality, because that contradiction will always persist. 00:04:34.204 --> 00:04:38.342 So, another example: 00:04:38.342 --> 00:04:53.094 If there are traditional ethics or morals that say men and women of certain ages 00:04:53.094 --> 00:04:58.997 can't see each other as romantic partners, then doing so creates suffering. 00:04:58.997 --> 00:05:11.396 Similarly, if we're taught that divorce is unacceptable after marriage, 00:05:11.396 --> 00:05:17.036 yet circumstances call for separation or divorce, 00:05:17.036 --> 00:05:21.315 this contradiction creates suffering. 00:05:21.315 --> 00:05:29.007 But in the natural course of things, people come together 00:05:29.007 --> 00:05:31.330 and separate all the time. 00:05:31.330 --> 00:05:39.466 It's all coming together. It's not the cause of our suffering. 00:05:39.466 --> 00:05:42.550 Separation or divorce is not the cause of our suffering. 00:05:42.550 --> 00:05:54.082 It's our preconceptions of "what ought to be" that actually cause our suffering, 00:05:54.082 --> 00:05:58.045 whether it's a first meeting or a separation. 00:05:58.045 --> 00:06:12.637 If we can just erase "what ought to be," then we actually eliminate 00:06:12.637 --> 00:06:20.129 a lot of suffering from our own internal conflicts. 00:06:20.129 --> 00:06:57.831 For example, when we teach our daughters that having sex before marriage is a sin, 00:06:57.831 --> 00:07:05.306 and they then engage in premarital sex, it causes them a lot of internal suffering. 00:07:05.306 --> 00:07:14.563 We don't teach our sons this as much, so they may engage in premarital sex 00:07:14.563 --> 00:07:17.206 without the same level of guilt. This is all because 00:07:17.206 --> 00:07:22.580 of the preconceptions that we instill in our children. 00:07:22.580 --> 00:07:34.933 For example, if you stop thinking right now, there is no cost to suffer. 00:07:34.933 --> 00:07:43.476 So, that is why the foundational piece of our meditation is to stop thinking. 00:07:43.476 --> 00:07:50.933 What position you take, however you breathe, 00:07:50.933 --> 00:07:54.930 all that doesn't really matter. 00:07:54.930 --> 00:08:08.360 Many of you say you meditate, but you end up quietly thinking. 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:10.581 That is thinking, not meditating. 00:08:10.581 --> 00:08:16.932 Thinking good thoughts does not mean you meditate well. 00:08:16.932 --> 00:08:24.044 Meditation is a state of absence of thoughts. 00:08:24.044 --> 00:08:31.509 If your thinking stops, most of your suffering will go away. 00:08:31.509 --> 00:08:40.375 But once you try it, you will know your thinking does not stop. 00:08:40.375 --> 00:08:52.380 Naturally, your thinking is amplified by 2, 3, 10 times more. 00:08:52.380 --> 00:08:59.630 So when you are meditating, your body may be still, 00:08:59.630 --> 00:09:02.780 but you are always thinking. 00:09:02.780 --> 00:09:15.231 So how do you stop thinking? Because if you intend to stop thinking, 00:09:15.231 --> 00:09:18.794 that intention itself gets amplified. 00:09:18.794 --> 00:09:25.245 That is why the old teachers told us this: 00:09:25.245 --> 00:09:32.074 There's dust flying all over the room. 00:09:32.074 --> 00:09:36.742 And we don't see it well. It is almost invisible. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:36.742 --> 00:09:41.931 But if there's a ray of sunlight coming through the room, 00:09:41.931 --> 00:09:48.120 we suddenly realize that a lot of dust is floating around. 00:09:48.120 --> 00:10:02.320 And we take a cloth or duster and try to dust it off. 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:06.870 We realize that we are actually creating more dust. 00:10:06.870 --> 00:10:12.361 Then, what do we do? We just have to let it be. 00:10:12.361 --> 00:10:20.783 As time passes, most of the dust will gradually settle. 00:10:20.783 --> 00:10:39.271 So basically, what they're saying is that we constantly live 00:10:39.271 --> 00:10:45.064 in a flux of thoughts and distractions, but we don't realize it 00:10:45.064 --> 00:10:50.178 because we lack a single ray of light to actually illuminate them. 00:10:50.178 --> 00:11:07.164 So, the fact that you actually sit down and start realizing 00:11:07.164 --> 00:11:12.951 how dusty the room in your mind is, is not a failure in the meditation. 00:11:12.951 --> 00:11:16.710 It's actually a process of meditating on that recognition. 00:11:16.710 --> 00:11:25.844 It's the same as seeing that single ray of light illuminating all that dust. 00:11:25.844 --> 00:11:34.228 That first realization that "I live amidst all this dust, 00:11:34.228 --> 00:11:36.659 in these distracting thoughts". 00:11:36.659 --> 00:11:49.217 Then you start engaging in a kind of performance-oriented meditation, 00:11:49.217 --> 00:11:52.475 in which you want to do meditation better and faster. 00:11:52.475 --> 00:11:57.104 Thereby creating more distractions and letting dust fly even more. 00:11:57.104 --> 00:12:00.622 You have to just let it be. 00:12:00.622 --> 00:12:07.901 But it doesn't really settle that quickly because it just flies around. 00:12:07.901 --> 00:12:15.397 That's why the strategy is to focus your thoughts on one thing. 00:12:15.397 --> 00:12:25.852 The easiest thing to focus your thoughts on is your breath. 00:12:25.852 --> 00:12:38.115 Basically, it is a strategy of focusing 00:12:38.115 --> 00:12:42.537 on the inhalation and exhalation of your breath. 00:12:42.537 --> 00:12:51.336 In Pali, it is called Ānāpāna. 00:12:51.336 --> 00:13:05.327 Another strategy that came up during Zen Buddhist tradition is a Koan, 00:13:05.327 --> 00:13:08.277 just to focus on one single thought. 00:13:08.277 --> 00:13:13.488 Or one single question like "Who am I?". 00:13:13.488 --> 00:13:17.664 Just focus on that single question. 00:13:17.664 --> 00:13:23.434 You know, other thoughts will constantly be there. 00:13:23.434 --> 00:13:26.591 You just let them be. 00:13:26.591 --> 00:13:35.215 The only thing you actually focus on is that single question. 00:13:35.215 --> 00:13:43.127 For example, say you read a book in the middle of the forest. 00:13:43.127 --> 00:13:46.658 There are birds tweeting. 00:13:46.658 --> 00:13:49.339 You hear a stream. 00:13:49.339 --> 00:13:52.127 And you hear cars down the road. 00:13:52.127 --> 00:13:55.528 So you can't really focus. 00:13:55.528 --> 00:13:59.778 If the cars were not running, 00:13:59.778 --> 00:14:03.424 if the birds stopped tweeting, 00:14:03.424 --> 00:14:06.947 if the stream stopped running; 00:14:06.947 --> 00:14:14.130 then you could actually focus in a quiet forest, right? 00:14:14.130 --> 00:14:19.481 But you can't stop those things. 00:14:19.481 --> 00:14:27.912 Just because you stop those externalities doesn't guarantee that you can focus. 00:14:27.912 --> 00:14:54.524 But if you really focus on the book and get into the substance, 00:14:54.524 --> 00:14:57.046 birds may tweet, but you don't pay attention; 00:14:57.046 --> 00:15:00.554 cars may run on the road nearby, but you don't pay attention, 00:15:00.554 --> 00:15:03.435 nor do you pay attention to the stream beside you 00:15:03.435 --> 00:15:07.940 because you are really focused; you are in that zone of focus. 00:15:07.940 --> 00:15:17.950 So, meditation is all about the absence of thoughts, but from a strategic 00:15:17.950 --> 00:15:23.200 perspective, it's all about focusing on that one single thought. 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:31.906 Let's say you focus on the breath in and breath out. 00:15:31.906 --> 00:15:39.430 So, when the breath comes in to know that the breath is coming in. 00:15:39.430 --> 00:15:46.660 You are not thinking about the breath coming in. 00:15:46.660 --> 00:16:01.995 This is a kind of sensory experience: the flow of the air as it actually travels 00:16:01.995 --> 00:16:06.057 over your skin, through your nostrils, as it enters your lungs. 00:16:06.057 --> 00:16:17.023 And you also feel that kind of tactile sense of the breath and leaf in your nose. 00:16:17.023 --> 00:16:22.780 This is experiencing, not thinking. 00:16:22.780 --> 00:16:26.692 You are just experiencing that breath. 00:16:26.692 --> 00:16:32.275 You might think of your mother at that time. 00:16:32.275 --> 00:16:42.464 But once you actually get distracted by the thought of your mother, 00:16:42.464 --> 00:16:45.494 you start thinking, "Oh, what about the time we went 00:16:45.494 --> 00:16:47.816 on a picnic with my mom? What about the time 00:16:47.816 --> 00:16:49.237 we had an argument with her?" 00:16:49.237 --> 00:16:53.935 So, you actually create narratives around those thoughts. 00:16:53.935 --> 00:16:58.214 This becomes a distraction. 00:16:58.214 --> 00:17:05.780 So, you can't really stop the thought of your mother rising. 00:17:05.780 --> 00:17:12.429 But despite whatever thoughts come to you, you keep focusing on the breath. 00:17:12.429 --> 00:17:18.160 Basically, do not pay attention or give energy to that thought. 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:21.459 And then the thoughts kind of dissipate. 00:17:21.459 --> 00:17:23.828 Then other thoughts will come. 00:17:23.828 --> 00:17:26.221 You'll think about coffee. 00:17:26.221 --> 00:17:29.899 But nevertheless, you focus on the breath. NOTE Paragraph 00:17:29.899 --> 00:17:33.148 Then the thought of coffee dissipates. 00:17:33.148 --> 00:17:45.328 So you will have countless thoughts rise and fall, rise and fall, 00:17:45.328 --> 00:17:48.374 as long as you don't pay attention to them. 00:17:48.374 --> 00:18:00.273 But once you start actually doing it, when you think of coffee, 00:18:00.273 --> 00:18:02.902 you kind of follow it and create a story out of it; 00:18:02.902 --> 00:18:06.772 "What kind of coffee do I want? With whom do I want this coffee?". 00:18:06.772 --> 00:18:13.672 At that time, you have already lost that focus on your breath. 00:18:13.672 --> 00:18:19.938 Because your attention can only focus on one thing at a time. 00:18:19.938 --> 00:18:24.076 If you focus on here, you lose focus there. 00:18:24.076 --> 00:18:29.774 And if you pay attention there, you lose attention here. 00:18:29.774 --> 00:18:40.286 Thoughts are just that; as long as you don't pay attention 00:18:40.286 --> 00:18:43.678 to them, they will just rise and fall, rise and fall. 00:18:43.678 --> 00:18:57.319 So, when we say we are distracted, those random thoughts are 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:01.104 not distractions in themselves. It really becomes a source of distraction 00:19:01.104 --> 00:19:05.160 when you start creating stories around those thoughts. 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:27.084 So, if you keep practicing, the time you can sustain focus on a single breath 00:19:27.084 --> 00:19:30.786 before getting distracted can increase to 1 minute, then 5 minutes, 00:19:30.786 --> 00:19:33.249 and then 10 minutes. It will gradually increase. 00:19:33.250 --> 00:19:46.270 So, the attention span on that single breath will continue 00:19:46.270 --> 00:19:52.790 to increase, and you will experience less distraction. 00:19:52.790 --> 00:20:07.908 Then you start actually gaining autonomy. You are no longer beholden 00:20:07.908 --> 00:20:11.546 to your past memories or future hopes. 00:20:11.546 --> 00:20:26.018 The reason you get angry, you get sad, you feel this emotion and that is 00:20:26.018 --> 00:20:29.781 because all these past memories come haunting you. 00:20:29.781 --> 00:20:45.573 You become fearful, anxious, and nervous because you are thinking about the future. 00:20:45.573 --> 00:20:55.744 So, if you are not captured by thoughts of the future, 00:20:55.744 --> 00:20:58.977 then all your anxiety and nervousness will go away. 00:20:58.977 --> 00:21:10.821 So that is why we teach to be awakened in the here and now, 00:21:10.821 --> 00:21:12.978 without being captured by your past memories 00:21:12.978 --> 00:21:16.636 or the future that has not come yet. 00:21:16.636 --> 00:21:28.138 So even if a thought about Buddha comes unbidden to you 00:21:28.138 --> 00:21:32.237 while meditating, that is just another distraction. 00:21:32.237 --> 00:21:41.930 So, just singular focus on that breath; everything else is a distraction. 00:21:41.930 --> 00:21:55.521 If it's a Zen Koan, anything that falls outside the scope 00:21:55.521 --> 00:21:59.342 of exploring that question is a distraction. 00:21:59.342 --> 00:22:09.622 And so, in that state, even what you read in the scriptures, sutras, 00:22:09.622 --> 00:22:12.692 or even Buddha's own teachings are just distractions. 00:22:12.692 --> 00:22:22.142 That is why there is a teaching: if you see a Buddha, 00:22:22.142 --> 00:22:24.347 if you think about the Buddha, kill the Buddha. 00:22:24.347 --> 00:22:27.868 If you encounter your teacher, kill the teacher. 00:22:27.868 --> 00:22:37.472 So, we don't really mean to literally kill them, 00:22:37.472 --> 00:22:41.055 but obviously, we are saying is to not pay them any mind. 00:22:41.055 --> 00:22:44.339 They are just distractions. 00:22:44.339 --> 00:22:47.288 Sorry for the lengthy response. 00:22:47.288 --> 00:22:48.778 (Sunim/Questioner Laughter) 00:22:48.778 --> 00:22:49.758 (Questioner) Thanks. 00:22:49.758 --> 00:22:51.488 (Audience Applause)