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Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.80,0:01:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think art is wonderful
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.28,0:01:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's everything you've ever known,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.00,0:01:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything you've ever done
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.28,0:01:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow percolating up,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.36,0:01:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working with ideas that you might want to explore.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.52,0:01:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you can just wake up one morning
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.48,0:01:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and know what you want to do.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.92,0:01:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a very unusual art project.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.72,0:01:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a phone call out of the blue.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.00,0:01:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was from an art consultant \Nin the city, wonderful woman.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.28,0:01:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "Congratulations, \Nyou've been selected
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.88,0:01:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make an art work for the Frey Foundation
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.14,0:01:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the city of Grand Rapids."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.32,0:01:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, "Well, what's the site?"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.60,0:01:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was one little corner.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.92,0:02:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was called the "Percent for Art Corner"
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.16,0:02:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of sort of a very tough park, \Nor what was left of a park.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.00,0:02:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a skating rink that \Nwas in bad need of a repair.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.72,0:02:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I don't believe an art work,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.72,0:02:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one singular object is going to help resolve
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.20,0:02:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of the urban situation
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.12,0:02:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what this park is and is not doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.20,0:02:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if the Frey Foundation is at all interested
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.72,0:02:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in having me come in, having \Nthe art act as a catalyst
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.04,0:02:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to completely rework this park,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.24,0:02:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would be extremely interested."
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.72,0:02:43.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the idea of a skating rink
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.12,0:02:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something that just sort of piqued my fancy.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.68,0:02:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I actually wanted to do
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.20,0:02:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was take an idea of sculpture \Nand grow it into a park.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.44,0:03:02.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't realize I was going to have to work
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.16,0:03:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an architect as well,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.36,0:03:06.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the city then required \Ntwo or three buildings
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.44,0:03:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be part of the site.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.68,0:03:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A bandstand, a restroom facility,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.76,0:03:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll have put in all the lighting.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.44,0:03:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it's not...
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.12,0:03:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder if you're gonna notice that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.20,0:03:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That might be a good North Star.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.90,0:03:21.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Assistant>okay.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.86,0:03:22.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Right?</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.84,0:03:25.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so then we either go deep, deep blue.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.36,0:03:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that works fine for the North Star,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.32,0:03:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's off-blue.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.26,0:03:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Okay.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.46,0:03:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->I'm really curious what this \Nlooks like with ice on it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.29,0:03:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're soon gonna find out, with ice.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.23,0:03:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sort of called this one \Nthe three stages of water:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.04,0:03:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solid, liquid, and gas.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.40,0:03:46.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the liquid is a water fountain
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.36,0:03:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's three feet above you.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.24,0:03:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A circle covered with water in \Nit flows off the front edge.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.88,0:03:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mist or the gas fountain
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.40,0:03:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a ring of mist that'll come up,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.48,0:03:59.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you could almost walk into the mist.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.88,0:04:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, the ice is the ice skating rink.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.12,0:04:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The genesis started with water.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.44,0:04:09.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Grand Rapids actually took the \Nrapids out of the river there
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.56,0:04:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for flooding reasons.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.40,0:04:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started to play with the idea
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.12,0:04:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of bringing it back a little bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.04,0:04:19.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The starting of the rings, the terraced rings,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.24,0:04:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started as, if you took a drop of water
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.24,0:04:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the center of the pool, and let them come out,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.08,0:04:28.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it spun into an idea
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.12,0:04:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of as much about astronomy and about the stars,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.04,0:04:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's almost like pulling \Nthe stars into a pool of water.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.22,0:04:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sort of a reflection of \Nthe night sky in the pool.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.29,0:04:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(group chuckling and chattering)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.40,0:04:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->All right, this is it. \NNow close your eyes.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.19,0:04:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Wow. This is not bad.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.38,0:05:00.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(chattering)\NJust be careful, Sarah.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.32,0:05:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow.\N(gentle music)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.46,0:05:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a piece that marks a very set point in time
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.40,0:05:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and connects it back to a \Nset occurrence in nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.64,0:05:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(ice skater yells)
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.32,0:05:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's up and running.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.28,0:05:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The skating rink's actually up first,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.00,0:05:42.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll go back in to fine-tune \Nthe landscaping, the trees.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.80,0:05:50.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My sculptures deal with \Nnaturally occurring phenomena,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.96,0:05:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are embedded and very closely aligned
Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.72,0:05:59.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with geology and landscape \Nand natural earth formations.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.04,0:06:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all about a play back and forth
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.48,0:06:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between inside works and outside works,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.08,0:06:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all trying to capture the landscape.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.16,0:06:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a group of atlases.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.52,0:06:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I bought about ten old atlases.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.96,0:07:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started making these \Nlandscapes, craters, in them.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.00,0:07:02.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this one sort of has a double crater.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.80,0:07:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you go past through the first crater,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.32,0:07:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a little island, \Nand you open it to the island,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.60,0:07:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll make it more complex \Nisland geography here,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.88,0:07:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is what's going on.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.12,0:07:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much of my artwork is very \Nlarge-scale outdoor works
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.80,0:07:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I like to retreat into the studio
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.24,0:07:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make a lot of the work myself.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.24,0:07:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the trouble is the outdoor works
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.08,0:07:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the architecture tends to take up all my time,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.40,0:07:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I find it very hard, as a struggle,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.20,0:07:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to come back here and do this.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.32,0:07:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is like the first work \NI've done in a little while.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.36,0:07:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's terrible.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.90,0:07:43.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(cat meows)
Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.05,0:07:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have gone through a period \Nin art and architecture,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.48,0:08:00.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, modernity, industrialization,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.44,0:08:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which allowed for specialization.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.00,0:08:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are very few architects \Nwho are also solidly,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.48,0:08:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a gallery.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.80,0:08:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of me is an artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.32,0:08:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other part of me builds architecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.80,0:08:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not at all wanting to have a large practice.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.04,0:08:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to practice architecture.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.92,0:08:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love building a few buildings.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.24,0:08:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I have to be very careful what I take on.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.00,0:08:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've done some works that are extremely public
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.40,0:08:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and extremely well-known,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.08,0:08:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think had I not done the Vietnam Memorial
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.60,0:08:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and come out with the body of \Nwork that since has come out,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.12,0:08:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would have been able to be called an artist
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.08,0:08:47.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about five years sooner.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.80,0:08:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But because I had done the Vietnam Memorial,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.60,0:08:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was like, "Oh, you make monuments,"
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.12,0:08:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever that means.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.48,0:08:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, look at that one, the biggest one.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.28,0:09:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dee-dee-dee-dee.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.94,0:09:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dee-dee-dee.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.80,0:09:09.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think I woke up one day and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.20,0:09:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, I'm going to be an artist \Non some days and an arch..."
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.28,0:09:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was more I couldn't choose between the two,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.72,0:09:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nor did I choose to blend them.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.48,0:09:21.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You might be able to do this better than me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.56,0:09:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's taken me a body of work \Nto see how I am developing.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.20,0:09:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Acquaintance>I don't think so.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.94,0:09:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->No, it's solid, it's totally solid.</v>
Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.38,0:09:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been on for an hour now.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.84,0:09:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of surreal.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.24,0:09:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really want to make this piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.68,0:10:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm actually playing with \Nthe idea of taking this idea
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.60,0:10:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and creating a work out of recycled rubber,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.08,0:10:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calling it "Playground."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.92,0:10:12.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will be twice as big
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.56,0:10:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the untitled topographic landscape,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.40,0:10:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and kids can play on it.