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Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.80,0:01:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think art is wonderful because it's \Neverything you've ever known,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything you've ever done somehow\Npercolating up,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working with ideas that you might want to \Nexplore.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then you can just wake up one morning \Nand know what you want to do.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a very unusual art project.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got a phone call out of the blue.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was from an art consultant in the city,\Nwonderful woman.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "Congratulations, you've \Nbeen selected to make an art work for the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Frey Foundation of the city of Grand \NRapids." and I said, "Well, what's the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,site?" And it was one little corner.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was called the "Percent for Art Corner"\Nof sort of a very tough park, or what
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was left of a park. There was a skating \Nrink that was in bad need of repair.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I don't believe an art work,\None singular object is going to help
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resolve sort of the urban situation of\Nwhat this park is and is not doing, but if
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Frey Foundation is at all interested \Nin having me come in, having the art act
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a catalyst to completely rework this \Npark, I would be extremely interested."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the idea of a skating rink
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something that just sort of piqued my \Nfancy.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I actually wanted to do was take an
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,idea of sculpture and grow it into a \Npark.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't realize I was going to have to \Nwork as an architect as well,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the city then required two or
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three buildings to be part of the site.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A bandstand, a restroom facility,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll have put in all the lighting.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it's not...
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder if you're gonna notice that,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That might be a good North Star.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Assistant>okay.</v>
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Right?</v>
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so then we either go deep, deep blue.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, that works fine for the North Star,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's off-blue.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Okay.</v>
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->I'm really curious what this \Nlooks like with ice on it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're soon gonna find out,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with ice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sort of called this one the three stages
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of water: solid, liquid, and gas.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the liquid is a water fountain
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's three feet about you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A circle covered with water in it flows
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off the front edge.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mist or the gas fountain
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a ring of mist that'll come up,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you could almost walk into the mist,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, the ice is the ice skating\Nrink.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The genesis started with water.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Grand Rapids actually took the rapids out \Nthe river there
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for flooding reasons.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started to play with the idea
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of bringing it back a little bit.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The starting of the rings, the terraced \Nrings,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started as, if you took a drop of water
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the center of the pool, and let them \Ncome out,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it spun into an idea of as much
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about astronomy and about the stars,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's almost like pulling the stars \Ninto a pool of water.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's sort of a reflection of the night sky\Nin the pool.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(group laughing and chattering)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->All right, this is it. \NNow close your eyes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Wow. This is not bad.</v>
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(chattering)\NJust be careful, Sarah.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow.\N(gentle music)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a piece that marks a very set point
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in time and connects it back to a set
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occurence in nature.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(ice skater yells)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's up and running. The skating rink's \Nactually up first,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll go back in to fine-tune the \Nlandscaping, the trees.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My sculptures deal with naturally
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occurring phenomena,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are embedded and very closely \Nalined with geology
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and landscape and natural earth \Nformations.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all about a play back and forth
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between inside works and outside works,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all trying to capture the landscape.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a group of atlases.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I bought about ten old atlases.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I started making these landscapes,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crates, in them.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this one sort of has a double crater.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you go past through the first crater,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's a little island and you open \Nit to the island,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'll make it more complex island \Ngeography here,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is what's going on.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So much of my artwork is very large-scale \Noutdoor works that I like to retreat
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the studio and make a lot of the \Nwork myself.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the trouble is the outdoor works and
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the architecture tends to take up all my \Ntime,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I find it very hard, as a struggle,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be able to come back here and do this.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is like the first work I've done in \Na little while.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's terrible.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(cat meows)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have gone through a period in art and \Narchitecture,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, modernity, industrialization,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which allowed for specialization.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are very few architects who are \Nalso solidly, have a gallery.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of me is an artist.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The other part of me builds architecture.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not at all wanting to have
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a large practice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to practice architecture.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love building a few buildings.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I have to be very careful what I
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take on.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've done some works that are extremely \Npublic and extremely well-known,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think had I not done the Vietnam \NMemorial and come out with the body of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work that since has come out, I would have\Nbeen able to be called an artist
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about five yers sooner.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But because I had done the Vietnam \NMemorial,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was like, "Oh, you make monuments,"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever that means.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, look at that one, the biggest one.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dee-dee-dee-dee.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dee-dee-dee.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think I woke up one day and said,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, I'm going to be an artist on some \Ndays and an arch..."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was more I couldn't choose between the \Ntwo, nor did I
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,choose to blend them.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You might be able to do this better than \Nme.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's taken me a body of work to see how I \Nam developing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Acquaintance>I don't think so.</v>
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->No, it's solid, it's totally \Nsolid.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been on for an hour now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of surreal.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really want to make this piece.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm actually playing with
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea of taking this idea and creating \Na work out of recycled rubber,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calling it "Playground."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will be twice as big
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as the untitled topographic landscape,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and kids can play on it.