[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.47,0:00:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->So it is the making of a hairpin.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.36,0:00:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see, the hairpin is indispensable, Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.96,0:00:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I never have any. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.92,0:00:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very good. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.36,0:00:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we are almost ready, hmm? Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.00,0:00:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.69,0:01:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(gentle piano music) Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.40,0:01:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in the sculpture for Chicago, then, Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.32,0:01:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a silent world. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.44,0:01:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a silent world. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.56,0:01:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these things are going to go Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.44,0:01:21.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around the high building in a garden. Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.20,0:01:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And instead of trying to rival Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.40,0:01:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the height of the building, Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.60,0:01:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have made a sculpture Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.80,0:01:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is so discreet and so sensitive Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.00,0:01:48.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my sculpture doesn't \Nhave a bone of contention Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.44,0:01:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the building. Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.72,0:01:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The beauty of it is that the block of black stone Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.12,0:01:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is one with this. Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.48,0:02:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that is quite something. Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.08,0:02:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, this is lost on a lot of people. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.56,0:02:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't know how beautiful it is. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.20,0:02:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't have to know. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.08,0:02:13.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm concerned with this \Nhere is vandalism, right? Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.56,0:02:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see how fragile it is. Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.80,0:02:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going to give you ideas now, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.80,0:02:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but just a knock on this, and the thing is... Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.16,0:02:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is a leap of faith to \Nput this in an open space, Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.44,0:02:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I take a chance. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.88,0:02:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Interviewer>how come some \Nhands are child hands Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.04,0:02:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some are adults? Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.63,0:02:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->The subject of autobiography.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.46,0:02:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Autobiographique. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.76,0:02:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the helplessness of a child Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.72,0:02:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then here is the help Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.28,0:02:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the grownup can give a small child. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.48,0:02:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One takes care of the other. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.68,0:02:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole thing means we are together Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.80,0:02:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are not arrogant, Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.84,0:02:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are not ashamed of our helplessness. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.56,0:03:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, the helplessness may be a charm. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.71,0:03:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Though I doubt that, but I can think that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.44,0:03:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can say that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.08,0:03:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I doubt it, but maybe I \Ndon't doubt it, I don't know. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.00,0:03:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Helplessness can be a charm. Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.60,0:03:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It makes you feel good to help somebody helpless, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.00,0:03:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though it's arrogant to say that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.04,0:03:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all based on the same subject. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.05,0:03:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there is a multiplicity of reasons. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.08,0:03:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things are not black and white, Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.28,0:03:33.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are very subtle, there are lots of grays. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.40,0:03:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the main different thing, Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.68,0:03:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first of all the fact that they are black Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.88,0:03:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not a hazard, it is wanted. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.76,0:03:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are wanted black. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.60,0:03:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is black is beautiful. Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.56,0:03:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is an invitation. Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.68,0:03:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is an invitation to be friendly. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.00,0:04:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(gentle piano music) Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.44,0:04:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm supposed to come here, huh? Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.06,0:05:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The wrists, you see the beauty of this? Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.48,0:05:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So instead of having a blouse, Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.76,0:05:22.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see, you have those things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.12,0:05:26.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ah, thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.84,0:05:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.76,0:05:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it is just nice. Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.50,0:05:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.08,0:05:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is also crochet. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.28,0:05:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a matter of... Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.60,0:05:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a matter of craftsmanship. Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.72,0:05:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this dovetail exactly into the Chicago project. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.40,0:06:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to talk about Jane Addams, Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.92,0:06:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because she's a historical figure, and it is, Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.96,0:06:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just open a book and know what she represents. Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.48,0:06:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her attitude was very moral and very wonderful. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.84,0:06:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She provided women who came over with work. Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.08,0:06:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And since their fathers were \Nnot around in many cases, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.64,0:06:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she made women useful. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.20,0:06:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She made them into wage-earners. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.24,0:06:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,v<Interviewer>Wasn't your \Ngrandmother a lace maker? Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.16,0:06:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Louise>There was a lot of \Ntapestry making in my family, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.00,0:06:44.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there was also lace making. Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.36,0:06:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I talk a lot about needles, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.84,0:06:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I never sat at a loom, never. Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.16,0:06:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In her feminist attitude, my \Nmother was virulent about that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.68,0:07:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "You, my daughter, \Nwill never handle a needle. Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.84,0:07:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Women are not supposed to be only craftswomen. Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.36,0:07:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are supposed to have a career." Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.30,0:07:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Interviewer>What was your father's idea?</v> Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.76,0:07:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did he think you would sit down- Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.82,0:07:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->My father's idea was that I get married</v> Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.68,0:07:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be a good wife, and be off of his hands. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.20,0:08:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(bouncy piano music) Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.88,0:08:13.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see the little hands \Ninside, they are my hands, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.84,0:08:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you can see by the size. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.48,0:08:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And his hands, then... Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.57,0:08:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Assistant>My hands are over Louise's hands.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.72,0:08:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Louise's hands are like this. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.75,0:08:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->So this is where it came from.</v> Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.32,0:08:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the technique of it is interesting, Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.40,0:08:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because first a cast was made. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.80,0:08:37.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a bed of plaster. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.52,0:08:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then Jerry pushed my hands in the wet plaster, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.60,0:08:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we wait until the plaster is dry, Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.92,0:08:57.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the negative part, is dry. Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.28,0:08:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we put some shellac on it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.04,0:09:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,May I turn it, because he's there. Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.44,0:09:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is my (indistinct). Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.20,0:09:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have half of it covered with the shellac. Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.84,0:09:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is dry. Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.00,0:09:20.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At this point we put another, \Nwe pour the plaster on top. Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.96,0:09:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now when I say that the original plaster Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.24,0:09:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is my favorite things, come, you see here? Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.00,0:09:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see the hand here? Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.36,0:09:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you see all the folds. You see the folds? Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.48,0:09:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the wrinkles, everything is there. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.88,0:09:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is the real document. That's it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.00,0:09:43.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it is really our hands. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.28,0:09:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it shows how much I \Ncare about the whole thing. Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.84,0:09:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It shows how much the emotion \Nthat this expresses is true. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.88,0:10:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an emotion that has \Nbeen lived and that is real; Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.04,0:10:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not something made up. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.72,0:10:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in this case, sometimes it's swing, you see. Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.60,0:10:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I swing from being vulnerable, the baby one, Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.04,0:10:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in some other cases, I am the guiding one. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.52,0:10:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you swing from being a child, Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.56,0:10:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into being a grandmother, to Alexander. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.92,0:10:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is a long swing, Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.52,0:10:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is a whole lifetime of experience, Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.75,0:10:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of attempted experiences. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.56,0:10:39.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people never grow up, \Nbut the attempt is there. Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.66,0:10:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v Interviewer>do you notice that artists</v> Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.72,0:10:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always remain children? Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.16,0:10:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,<v ->Oh, well, I don't have \Nto implicate myself, Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.68,0:10:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's not necessary. Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.88,0:10:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it might be true that the artist, Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.52,0:10:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is something in them that either refuses, Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.28,0:10:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or is unable to grow up, this is possible. Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.94,0:11:41.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(gentle piano music) Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.32,0:11:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A work of art doesn't have to be explained. Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.76,0:11:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you say, what does this mean, you see? Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.16,0:11:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, if you do not have any feeling about this, Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.92,0:11:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot explain it to you. Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.88,0:12:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If this doesn't touch you, I have failed.