WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.105 00:00:03.105 --> 00:00:04.980 JONAH BERGER: A way to make this video viral? 00:00:04.980 --> 00:00:06.900 We could make it more emotionally arousing. 00:00:06.900 --> 00:00:10.130 Or we could play really loud or exciting music. 00:00:10.130 --> 00:00:11.300 SPEAKER: Let's remix it. 00:00:11.300 --> 00:00:12.038 [CLUB MUSIC] 00:00:12.038 --> 00:00:13.570 00:00:13.570 --> 00:00:15.320 JONAH BERGER: I could say something really 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:16.830 provocative or controversial. 00:00:16.830 --> 00:00:20.510 Everything Gladwell said is wrong. 00:00:20.510 --> 00:00:23.010 People want to hear the rest of the video to figure out why. 00:00:23.010 --> 00:00:25.070 Because controversy encourages discussion, right? 00:00:25.070 --> 00:00:27.110 It gets people to share things. 00:00:27.110 --> 00:00:27.847 I'm Jonah Berger. 00:00:27.847 --> 00:00:29.930 I'm a professor of marketing at the Wharton School 00:00:29.930 --> 00:00:32.340 and author of Contagious, Why Things Catch On. 00:00:32.340 --> 00:00:36.770 00:00:36.770 --> 00:00:39.300 The book is Contagious, Why Things Catch On, 00:00:39.300 --> 00:00:41.310 and it's all about how companies, individuals, 00:00:41.310 --> 00:00:43.040 and organizations can get word of mouth 00:00:43.040 --> 00:00:45.770 to help their products and ideas become popular. 00:00:45.770 --> 00:00:48.907 I see life as a laboratory. 00:00:48.907 --> 00:00:50.990 You can look around and see people doing something 00:00:50.990 --> 00:00:52.940 and wonder, well, why does that happen? 00:00:52.940 --> 00:00:56.030 And my job as a psychologist or as a consumer psychologist 00:00:56.030 --> 00:00:58.470 is to understand those questions. 00:00:58.470 --> 00:01:00.720 There's a guy who follows me on Twitter who's-- he has 00:01:00.720 --> 00:01:01.980 a reasonably large following. 00:01:01.980 --> 00:01:04.260 And [INAUDIBLE] he was like, oh, can I get that deal? 00:01:04.260 --> 00:01:05.280 Because I mentioned on Twitter. 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:07.597 Like some people are really, really excited about this. 00:01:07.597 --> 00:01:09.680 And so I think this definitely has social currency 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:10.830 for some people. 00:01:10.830 --> 00:01:12.350 I think other people are going to feel like this. 00:01:12.350 --> 00:01:14.180 LAINIE HUSTON: Going viral has been a concept that's 00:01:14.180 --> 00:01:15.720 happened since ancient times. 00:01:15.720 --> 00:01:17.890 It isn't something that is new just 00:01:17.890 --> 00:01:20.903 because Twitter and Facebook are now tools that we can use. 00:01:20.903 --> 00:01:22.070 ALEX CHAHIN: It's a science. 00:01:22.070 --> 00:01:26.380 It boils down to several distinct discrete variables 00:01:26.380 --> 00:01:30.280 that you can pull and toy with in order to make something 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:32.250 have a greater success of being viral. 00:01:32.250 --> 00:01:37.228 00:01:37.228 --> 00:01:39.770 JONAH BERGER: I was in college, and as grandmothers often do, 00:01:39.770 --> 00:01:41.630 my grandmother would send me newspaper articles. 00:01:41.630 --> 00:01:43.213 And one summer, she sent me an article 00:01:43.213 --> 00:01:45.520 about a book called The Tipping Point. 00:01:45.520 --> 00:01:48.430 It brought together psychology, and sociology, and marketing 00:01:48.430 --> 00:01:51.050 in a way that had never really been brought together before. 00:01:51.050 --> 00:01:54.230 But it wasn't necessarily backed up with hard data. 00:01:54.230 --> 00:01:57.140 It was a good amount of opinion and correlational evidence. 00:01:57.140 --> 00:01:59.770 But as we all know, correlation doesn't necessarily 00:01:59.770 --> 00:02:01.120 equal causation. 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:02.870 Why do people talk about and share things? 00:02:02.870 --> 00:02:04.828 Why are certain things shared more than others? 00:02:04.828 --> 00:02:06.410 That's not even in The Tipping Point. 00:02:06.410 --> 00:02:08.139 There's no section on what makes things 00:02:08.139 --> 00:02:10.863 more viral or more talkable. 00:02:10.863 --> 00:02:12.530 And so I really started to wonder, well, 00:02:12.530 --> 00:02:16.930 why do we share some things rather than others? 00:02:16.930 --> 00:02:18.810 So Rebecca Black's song has been called 00:02:18.810 --> 00:02:19.935 the worst song of all time. 00:02:19.935 --> 00:02:20.935 [REBECCA BLACK, "FRIDAY] 00:02:20.935 --> 00:02:22.760 REBECCA BLACK: (SINGING) It's Friday Friday 00:02:22.760 --> 00:02:24.520 Gotta get down on Friday 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:26.270 JONAH BERGER: Yet even though it's so bad, 00:02:26.270 --> 00:02:28.112 it's gotten over 300 million views. 00:02:28.112 --> 00:02:29.570 And so lots of people wonder, well, 00:02:29.570 --> 00:02:31.737 why is this song that everybody hates doing so well? 00:02:31.737 --> 00:02:33.570 And so if you look at the data, you actually 00:02:33.570 --> 00:02:35.030 see something sort of interesting. 00:02:35.030 --> 00:02:37.938 You see a spike every week on a certain day of the week. 00:02:37.938 --> 00:02:40.480 And when you look at it closely, you notice that it's Friday. 00:02:40.480 --> 00:02:42.166 REBECCA BLACK: (SINGING) Thursday 00:02:42.166 --> 00:02:44.292 Today it is Friday 00:02:44.292 --> 00:02:46.000 JONAH BERGER: So this song is equally bad 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:46.917 every day of the week. 00:02:46.917 --> 00:02:49.490 It's equally bad Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 00:02:49.490 --> 00:02:52.000 But Friday is a ready reminder, a trigger 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:53.580 to make us think about that song. 00:02:53.580 --> 00:03:01.485 REBECCA BLACK: (SINGING) through the weekend 00:03:01.485 --> 00:03:03.110 JONAH BERGER: So in a contagious world, 00:03:03.110 --> 00:03:05.260 I think we'll see fewer advertisements and more 00:03:05.260 --> 00:03:08.470 interpersonal communication, less money spent on how can we 00:03:08.470 --> 00:03:10.810 interrupt consumers from their television 00:03:10.810 --> 00:03:12.550 show or their favorite radio program 00:03:12.550 --> 00:03:15.460 and shove an ad in their face, so they'll pay attention to us. 00:03:15.460 --> 00:03:17.350 And more, well, how can we get their friends 00:03:17.350 --> 00:03:18.703 to tell them about this product? 00:03:18.703 --> 00:03:20.120 I think if you're a small company, 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:21.430 this book is great news. 00:03:21.430 --> 00:03:24.055 You might have thought that you need a celebrity to talk about, 00:03:24.055 --> 00:03:26.620 or you need some big blogger to tweet about your restaurant 00:03:26.620 --> 00:03:28.190 or it's not going to become popular. 00:03:28.190 --> 00:03:30.220 What this book shows is how anyone 00:03:30.220 --> 00:03:32.538 can apply these principles to help their idea catch on. 00:03:32.538 --> 00:03:35.080 If you're a big company, I think you need to change direction 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:35.622 a little bit. 00:03:35.622 --> 00:03:37.930 You need to stop focusing on finding special people 00:03:37.930 --> 00:03:40.540 and think more about how to create content that's going 00:03:40.540 --> 00:03:42.840 to be more likely to be shared. 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:52.000