WEBVTT

00:00:34.155 --> 00:00:37.095
Hi semuanya! Ini adalah tayang bincang 
saya

00:00:37.095 --> 00:00:40.045
mengenai orang-orang yang menginspirasi 
saya

00:00:40.045 --> 00:00:42.975
dan mereka yang memotivasi saya 
untuk berbuat sesuatu

00:00:43.125 --> 00:00:46.085
Jadi, tamu kita kali ini adalah

00:00:46.085 --> 00:00:47.825
Kiki Febriyanti

00:00:48.765 --> 00:00:52.045
seorang pembuat film independen
dari Indonesia

00:00:52.185 --> 00:00:54.555
Hi, Kiki! Bagaimana kabarmu?

00:00:55.125 --> 00:00:56.805
Hi, baik. Kamu?

00:00:56.805 --> 00:00:57.935
Saya pun baik-baik saja

00:00:57.935 --> 00:00:59.895
Terima kasih!

00:00:59.895 --> 00:01:02.475
Terima kasih sudah bergabung

00:01:02.685 --> 00:01:05.905
Saya pikir sangat penting untuk melakukan
perbincangan ini

00:01:05.905 --> 00:01:08.155
karena saya ingin pemirsa

00:01:08.155 --> 00:01:10.815
mengatahui cara mu 
dan jalan yang kamu pilih

00:01:11.135 --> 00:01:14.015
dan saya ingin bertanya

00:01:14.015 --> 00:01:17.135
seperti apa rasanya menjadi seorang
pembuat film independen

00:01:17.135 --> 00:01:20.535
saat ini, di era ini

00:01:20.545 --> 00:01:23.075
tapi mari mulai dari awal

00:01:23.075 --> 00:01:26.055
mungkin kamu bisa bercerita sedikit

00:01:26.055 --> 00:01:28.955
apa yang mengawali ketertarikanmu 
pada pembuatan film?

00:01:28.955 --> 00:01:30.345
Bagaimana kamu memulai?

00:01:31.375 --> 00:01:33.245
Ceritanya panjang

00:01:33.665 --> 00:01:36.725
haha, tapi mari kita persingkat

00:01:36.725 --> 00:01:39.745
karena saya harus merunut 
ke masa kecil saya

00:01:40.345 --> 00:01:43.005
jadi, awalnya

00:01:43.705 --> 00:01:46.445
awalnya saya sebenarnya terinspirasi

00:01:46.445 --> 00:01:49.835
teman baik kakek-nenek saya

00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.640
dan dia adalah fotografer jurnalistik

00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:57.995
jadi dia sering menunjukkan 
yang dia kerjakan

00:01:57.995 --> 00:02:00.525
dan saya berpikir, baiklah,

00:02:00.525 --> 00:02:03.500
saya akan jadi fotografer jurnalistik juga

00:02:03.500 --> 00:02:05.740
seperti dia

00:02:06.900 --> 00:02:10.140
keluargaku pun suka nonton film

00:02:10.215 --> 00:02:13.095
dan orangtuaku

00:02:13.095 --> 00:02:15.925
nenek dan ibu bapakku

00:02:15.925 --> 00:02:17.905
mereka sering mengajakku

00:02:18.305 --> 00:02:20.745
menonton film di bioskop

00:02:21.305 --> 00:02:23.645
tempatnya di dekat rumah

00:02:23.645 --> 00:02:27.145
kami hanya butuh berjalan selama 5 menit 
ke sana

00:02:27.955 --> 00:02:28.955
lalu

00:02:29.405 --> 00:02:31.255
saya ingat

00:02:31.605 --> 00:02:34.325
orang yang bekerja sebagai tukang bersih 
di sana

00:02:34.325 --> 00:02:37.135
sudah akrab

00:02:37.135 --> 00:02:40.415
akrab denganku

00:02:40.565 --> 00:02:43.795
di bioskop, jadi

00:02:43.795 --> 00:02:46.875
biasanya sebelum bioskop buka

00:02:47.175 --> 00:02:49.555
dia mengajakku

00:02:49.555 --> 00:02:51.375
bermain di dalam

00:02:53.665 --> 00:02:56.765
hanya untuk melihat-lihat poster

00:02:56.765 --> 00:02:58.765
dari film-film

00:02:58.765 --> 00:03:00.135
dan sekadar duduk

00:03:00.135 --> 00:03:03.255
di dalam bioskop sebelum

00:03:03.935 --> 00:03:05.145
ada

00:03:05.765 --> 00:03:08.795
penonton lain

00:03:08.795 --> 00:03:11.605
jadi itulah bagaimana saya bisa tertarik 
pada film

00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.835
jadi, dari masa kecilmu

00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:17.920
saat kamu masih kanak-kanak

00:03:18.200 --> 00:03:21.240
dan pada tahun 2008 ada

00:03:21.245 --> 00:03:23.665
saat saya masih di universitas, ada

00:03:23.665 --> 00:03:26.765
lokakarya pembuatan film dokumenter 
In-Docs

00:03:29.675 --> 00:03:32.095
acara itu datang ke universitas saya 
di Jember

00:03:32.095 --> 00:03:35.135
Java Timur

00:03:35.135 --> 00:03:36.225
lalu

00:03:36.705 --> 00:03:39.735
saya mengikuti acara tersebut

00:03:39.735 --> 00:03:41.975
dan saya terpilih

00:03:41.975 --> 00:03:44.705
cerita saya terpilih untuk

00:03:44.705 --> 00:03:47.765
mendapatkan beasiswa untuk diproduksi

00:03:47.765 --> 00:03:48.765
lalu

00:03:48.965 --> 00:03:51.495
itulah bagaimana saya mulai membuat film

00:03:51.495 --> 00:03:53.235
jadi, pada tahun 2008

00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:56.140
saya membuat film dokumenter pertama saya

00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.800
jadi, itu 12 tahun yang lalu

00:03:59.140 --> 00:04:01.540
ya, 12 tahun yang lalu

00:04:01.720 --> 00:04:04.240
Apa film pertamamu? Tentang apa?

00:04:07.115 --> 00:04:10.135
Film itu tentang dua orang

00:04:12.675 --> 00:04:13.595
yang

00:04:15.275 --> 00:04:18.215
mereka dicap buruk

00:04:18.215 --> 00:04:21.085
karena mereka menderita

00:04:21.085 --> 00:04:22.565
gangguan kesehatan jiwa

00:04:23.155 --> 00:04:24.815
dan

00:04:24.815 --> 00:04:27.855
saya membuat cerita tentang perasaan 
mereka

00:04:27.855 --> 00:04:28.855
tentang kehidupan mereka

00:04:32.205 --> 00:04:34.795
Bagaimana mereka berjuang

00:04:34.795 --> 00:04:37.585
untuk diterima masyarakat

00:04:37.585 --> 00:04:40.725
di keluarga mereka

00:04:40.725 --> 00:04:43.405
dan di lingkungan

00:04:43.555 --> 00:04:45.385
jadi, film itu tentang

00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.220
gangguan kesehatan jiwa dan

00:04:48.420 --> 00:04:50.700
itu tentang tempat

00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:52.860
tentang rumah sakit, ya, kerena

00:04:52.860 --> 00:04:56.160
saya menonton film itu dan paham sedikit 
tentang alurnya

00:04:56.200 --> 00:04:58.840
ya, awalnya film itu dibuka dengan

00:04:59.140 --> 00:05:02.540
pendirinya memberitahuku tempat itu 
awalnya hanyalah

00:05:04.025 --> 00:05:06.395
tempat untuk belajar Qur'an

00:05:06.395 --> 00:05:09.285
seperti mengaji, tapi lalu

00:05:09.905 --> 00:05:12.945
banyak orang datang

00:05:13.515 --> 00:05:16.505
untuk memberikan tempat 
bagi orang-orang ini

00:05:17.595 --> 00:05:20.435
dan tempat itu menjadi seperti sekarang

00:05:21.565 --> 00:05:24.415
seperti penampungan untuk orang-orang

00:05:24.415 --> 00:05:25.665
dengan gangguan mental

00:05:27.375 --> 00:05:29.235
ok, jadi ya

00:05:29.755 --> 00:05:32.345
Bagaimana Anda menemukan cerita ini? 
Bagaimana Anda menemukan

00:05:32.345 --> 00:05:34.725
orang-orang ini? Bagaimana Anda menemukan 
subjek Anda?

00:05:36.875 --> 00:05:37.875
sebenarnya

00:05:39.025 --> 00:05:40.695
Saya sudah

00:05:41.885 --> 00:05:43.835
seperti berteman

00:05:44.185 --> 00:05:46.905
dengan pendiri

00:05:46.905 --> 00:05:49.075
pesantren Islam

00:05:49.075 --> 00:05:52.115
Al-Ghafur

00:05:52.155 --> 00:05:54.975
karena ibu saya

00:05:54.975 --> 00:05:56.975
bekerja sebagai guru

00:05:57.185 --> 00:05:59.585
di sekolah dasar

00:05:59.585 --> 00:06:01.885
dekat pesantren itu

00:06:01.885 --> 00:06:04.655
dan itulah bagaimana saya mengenal dia

00:06:04.655 --> 00:06:07.515
dan saya sering penasaran

00:06:08.035 --> 00:06:11.075
karena orang-orang ini

00:06:11.075 --> 00:06:13.465
orang-orang yang ada di sana

00:06:13.465 --> 00:06:15.355
orang dengan gangguan jiwa

00:06:15.815 --> 00:06:18.945
seperti kata warga sekitar

00:06:18.945 --> 00:06:20.205
bebas berjalan-jalan

00:06:20.565 --> 00:06:21.995
bebas

00:06:22.555 --> 00:06:24.645
berkomunikasi dengan orang lain

00:06:24.985 --> 00:06:26.345
di lingkungan itu

00:06:27.445 --> 00:06:30.215
jadi mereka tidak berada di penampungan

00:06:30.215 --> 00:06:33.535
seperti yang kita pikirkan

00:06:34.725 --> 00:06:37.505
berada di dalam ruangan 
dan tidak diperbolehkan keluar

00:06:37.505 --> 00:06:40.205
sebaliknya, mereka

00:06:40.495 --> 00:06:42.865
mereka berinteraksi

00:06:42.865 --> 00:06:45.235
berinteraksi dengan warga di sana

00:06:45.315 --> 00:06:47.395
itulah yang menarik

00:06:47.795 --> 00:06:48.795
bagi saya

00:06:50.125 --> 00:06:53.235
tapi maksud saya topik ini

00:06:53.235 --> 00:06:56.695
cukup spesifik ya dan ini

00:06:56.865 --> 00:06:57.775
huuuh ya

00:06:57.775 --> 00:06:59.375
seperti awalnya

00:06:59.375 --> 00:07:02.295
kita biasanya mengira mereka berbahaya

00:07:02.565 --> 00:07:03.475
mereka

00:07:03.475 --> 00:07:06.885
kita pikir kita harus menjauhi mereka
atau seperti itulah

00:07:06.885 --> 00:07:08.285
tapi yang saya

00:07:09.155 --> 00:07:12.545
selalu pelajari sejak kecil

00:07:13.575 --> 00:07:16.425
mereka seperti kita, mereka

00:07:16.425 --> 00:07:18.095
tidak berbeda dengan saya

00:07:19.055 --> 00:07:21.475
mereka bisa berkomunikasi 
dengan orang lain

00:07:21.475 --> 00:07:23.965
mereka dapat bersosialisasi

00:07:23.965 --> 00:07:27.005
mereka bisa bekerja dan saya pikir

00:07:30.465 --> 00:07:32.155
Bagaimana kehidupan mereka

00:07:33.035 --> 00:07:34.565
sebenarnya?

00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:38.020
menghadapi situasi

00:07:38.020 --> 00:07:40.740
menghadapi masyarakat, menghadapi
keluarga mereka

00:07:41.325 --> 00:07:44.345
ini menarik bagi saya, dan seperti

00:07:44.345 --> 00:07:47.255
melihat diri saya sendiri melalui

00:07:47.255 --> 00:07:50.045
orang-orang ini, melalui subjek saya

00:07:50.045 --> 00:07:52.415
itulah bagaimana dan kenapa

00:07:52.415 --> 00:07:53.915
saya membuat film ini

00:07:55.055 --> 00:07:57.985
Bagaimana reaksi subjek Anda

00:07:57.985 --> 00:08:00.685
saat mereka melihat kamera?

00:08:00.685 --> 00:08:03.635
ya sebenarnya itu hal yang lucu

00:08:03.635 --> 00:08:07.005
ya bagaimana mereka bereaksi 
di depan kamera

00:08:07.005 --> 00:08:09.155
di kasus saya

00:08:10.015 --> 00:08:12.145
di film pertama itu

00:08:12.145 --> 00:08:14.540
subjek seperti

00:08:14.540 --> 00:08:17.595
Saya mencoba membuat mereka terbiasa

00:08:17.595 --> 00:08:18.635
dengan kamera

00:08:18.640 --> 00:08:20.680
jadi saat penelitian saya pun membawa

00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.545
saya membawa kamera

00:08:23.545 --> 00:08:26.545
jadi mereka dapat terbiasa dengan itu

00:08:26.545 --> 00:08:29.475
dan mereka baik-baik saja

00:08:29.475 --> 00:08:30.475
sebaliknya

00:08:30.865 --> 00:08:32.325
salah satu kru

00:08:32.785 --> 00:08:34.985
yang saya bawa ke lokasi

00:08:36.065 --> 00:08:37.605
yang

00:08:38.140 --> 00:08:41.820
seharusnya merekam ini

00:08:42.100 --> 00:08:43.760
karena saya menyutradarai

00:08:43.760 --> 00:08:46.915
jadi saya mencoba berkomunikasi 
dengan subjek

00:08:46.915 --> 00:08:50.025
dan tugas si kamerawan adalah 
untuk merekam

00:08:50.025 --> 00:08:53.295
dia tidak bisa, dia gugup

00:08:53.300 --> 00:08:55.460
dan entah bagaimana

00:08:55.460 --> 00:08:57.740
apa yang tak dikira

00:08:57.760 --> 00:09:02.200
reaksi itu bukan dari subjek

00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:04.255
tapi dari salah satu kru

00:09:04.260 --> 00:09:05.740
ya

00:09:05.740 --> 00:09:07.560
sebenarnya pertanyaan ini

00:09:07.560 --> 00:09:09.960
membuat saya berpikir

00:09:09.980 --> 00:09:11.595
Bagaimana subjek

00:09:11.595 --> 00:09:13.685
subjek mana saja bereaksi pada kamera, ya?

00:09:13.685 --> 00:09:16.425
Jika kita berbicara tentang pembuatan 
film dokumenter

00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.640
itulah mengapa saya selalu tertarik 
dengannya

00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:24.375
Saya senang Anda membuat film ini

00:09:24.375 --> 00:09:26.655
dan ini terbuka kalau tak salah?

00:09:26.655 --> 00:09:29.895
jadi, penonton dapat melihat

00:09:29.900 --> 00:09:32.000
ya, ini ada di website yang bernama

00:09:33.415 --> 00:09:36.600
cultureunplugged.com

00:09:38.380 --> 00:09:39.740
jadi bisa kita tautkan di bawah

00:09:39.740 --> 00:09:40.560
tentu saja

00:09:41.215 --> 00:09:44.255
dan kalau saya tak salah anda terpilih

00:09:44.260 --> 00:09:46.500
berkat film ini di

00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:48.680
beberapa festival film berbeda

00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.180
dan Anda juga menghadiri

00:09:51.220 --> 00:09:53.100
STEPS International

00:09:53.105 --> 00:09:56.145
Film Festival of Human Rights

00:09:56.145 --> 00:09:59.025
di Ukraina, di Kharkiv, di Ukraina, ya

00:09:59.025 --> 00:10:01.200
pada tahun 2013, benar?

00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.700
2014, dana kalau saya tak salah

00:10:03.700 --> 00:10:05.680
itu sudah belalu sangat lama

00:10:05.820 --> 00:10:08.900
tidak tidak tidak, itu pada tahun 2013, Ki

00:10:08.900 --> 00:10:10.595
ahhh baiklah

00:10:10.595 --> 00:10:13.675
benar? itu di tahun 2013

00:10:13.675 --> 00:10:15.035
ya ya

00:10:16.485 --> 00:10:19.075
Anda menerima penghargaan

00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.700
di festival ity

00:10:21.820 --> 00:10:24.460
Anda menerima penghargaan sebagai

00:10:24.500 --> 00:10:26.940
pembuat film dokumenter terbaik

00:10:27.140 --> 00:10:29.920
dan itu berkat film

00:10:29.920 --> 00:10:33.740
Jangan bilang aku gila / Don't call me crazy

00:10:33.740 --> 00:10:34.520
benar

00:10:35.180 --> 00:10:37.900
mungkin kamu bisa ceritakan sedikit 
tentang pengalamanmu

00:10:38.180 --> 00:10:40.500
Festival pertama saya adalah di India

00:10:40.500 --> 00:10:42.920
itu terpilih di India

00:10:42.980 --> 00:10:45.400
bagi saya untuk menayangkan

00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:49.025
film saya pada khalayak

00:10:49.025 --> 00:10:52.080
khalayak umum yang lebih luas 
dan itu sudah

00:10:54.215 --> 00:10:56.525
membahagiakan saya ya

00:10:56.875 --> 00:10:58.335
karena itu harapan saya

00:10:59.365 --> 00:11:01.235
untuk menggugah kesadaran

00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.840
akan orang-orang dengan situasi ini

00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.140
tentang subjek saya

00:11:09.140 --> 00:11:11.240
tentang kondisi itu ya

00:11:11.755 --> 00:11:14.775
jadi saat mereka

00:11:15.645 --> 00:11:18.655
maksud saya festival yang memberi 
penghargaan ini

00:11:18.655 --> 00:11:20.445
ini seperti bonus

00:11:20.935 --> 00:11:23.615
karena bagi saya inilah kebahagiaan

00:11:23.615 --> 00:11:26.655
saat publik mengetahui kondisi di sana

00:11:27.245 --> 00:11:28.775
di kampung halaman saya

00:11:29.265 --> 00:11:32.475
dengan orang-orang ini

00:11:32.660 --> 00:11:35.140
jadi, ya itu adalah bonus

00:11:35.140 --> 00:11:37.460
seperti kebahagiaan tambahan

00:11:37.945 --> 00:11:39.205
ditambah lagi

00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.320
Duta Besar Indonesia untuk Ukraina

00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.700
menghadiri acara itu

00:11:46.155 --> 00:11:48.765
dan dia beserta staf

00:11:48.765 --> 00:11:51.080
juga sangat suportif

00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:54.455
jadi ya, saya sangat bahagia dengan itu

00:11:54.460 --> 00:11:57.440
Anda bahagia dapat berbagi dengan publik,
benar

00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.815
untuk berbagi cerita

00:11:59.820 --> 00:12:02.625
ya, dan saya sangat memahami Anda

00:12:02.625 --> 00:12:05.460
Bisa bertanya tentant film ke dua Anda?

00:12:05.460 --> 00:12:07.640
yang juga independen dan itu berjudul

00:12:07.640 --> 00:12:09.560
"Yup, it's my body"

00:12:09.560 --> 00:12:11.420
baiklah ya

00:12:11.420 --> 00:12:14.580
Bagaimana Anda memilih topik dan subjek?

00:12:14.580 --> 00:12:17.380
mungkin dapat kamu ceritakan sedikit 
tentang film itu

00:12:17.940 --> 00:12:20.740
Jadi, sebenarnya ini

00:12:20.740 --> 00:12:23.880
film ke dua "Yup, it's my body"

00:12:23.880 --> 00:12:26.760
saya membuatnya seperti

00:12:26.760 --> 00:12:28.540
sebuah buku harian

00:12:28.540 --> 00:12:30.580
karena saya sudah akan

00:12:30.580 --> 00:12:32.980
lulus

00:12:32.980 --> 00:12:34.500
dari universitas saya

00:12:34.820 --> 00:12:38.000
danpada tahun-tahun itu 
saya tinggal

00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:40.355
bersama subjek-subjek saya

00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:43.265
yang juga teman satu kos saya

00:12:43.265 --> 00:12:45.240
teman tinggal saya di rumah sewa

00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.445
dan saya menyadari bebera kebiasaan

00:12:50.445 --> 00:12:51.640
kami

00:12:51.640 --> 00:12:53.920
kami semua...seperti

00:12:53.920 --> 00:12:57.460
kami selalu berdiskusi tentang citra tubuh

00:12:57.460 --> 00:13:00.340
saya mencoba diet ini itu

00:13:00.340 --> 00:13:02.620
dan saya bertanya pada mereka

00:13:02.620 --> 00:13:05.535
Mengapa melakukannya? Untuk apa?

00:13:05.535 --> 00:13:08.515
Di rumah sewa saya saat itu

00:13:08.515 --> 00:13:10.985
kebanyakan dari mereka ingin 
mengurangi berat badan

00:13:11.580 --> 00:13:15.860
khususnya salah satu teman dekat saya

00:13:17.060 --> 00:13:18.900
namanya Sara

00:13:21.060 --> 00:13:24.360
dia lebih sering berbagi cerita 
dengan saya

00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.760
tentang hidupnya gaya hidupnya
seperti itulah

00:13:26.760 --> 00:13:30.140
karena kami seperti keluarga 
di rumah sewa itu

00:13:30.140 --> 00:13:32.820
jadi saya mencoba mendokumentasikannya

00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.100
seperti memorabilia

00:13:39.500 --> 00:13:41.975
jadi saya merekam

00:13:41.975 --> 00:13:43.835
saya memulai merekam dengan

00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:47.060
Mini DV

00:13:47.060 --> 00:13:49.540
jadi saya gunakan itu untuk merekam

00:13:49.540 --> 00:13:51.900
awalnya saya gunakan untuk merekam

00:13:51.900 --> 00:13:54.520
aktivitas dan situasi rumah kami

00:13:54.520 --> 00:13:55.980
dengan handycam itu

00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.040
dan kaset

00:13:58.040 --> 00:13:59.960
awalnya saya menggunakan

00:13:59.960 --> 00:14:01.820
sebenarnya kaset

00:14:01.820 --> 00:14:03.500
bekas

00:14:03.980 --> 00:14:05.740
jadi saya tidak membeli

00:14:05.745 --> 00:14:08.535
saya dapat kaset mini DV

00:14:08.535 --> 00:14:11.715
dari dokumentasi pernikahan

00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.280
dan salah satu teman saya

00:14:15.700 --> 00:14:19.120
dia seorang jurnalis televisi

00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:23.560
jadi kaset itu sudah digitalisasikan

00:14:23.560 --> 00:14:25.560
dia memberi saya

00:14:25.560 --> 00:14:27.520
jadi saya seperti

00:14:27.520 --> 00:14:30.300
menggunakan kaset itu lagi

00:14:31.060 --> 00:14:34.200
dan lalu di In-Docs

00:14:35.160 --> 00:14:37.620
saya membaca pengumuman bahwa

00:14:37.620 --> 00:14:39.920
Ind-Docs membuka beasiswa lagi

00:14:40.380 --> 00:14:42.600
untuk masterclass

00:14:42.605 --> 00:14:45.305
jadi saya mengajukan diri dengan 
cerita ini

00:14:45.305 --> 00:14:48.140
yang sudah saya rekam sebelumnya

00:14:48.920 --> 00:14:51.880
jadi, saya tinggal menelusuri topik itu 
lebih lanjut

00:14:52.375 --> 00:14:55.205
tentang citra tubuh

00:14:55.205 --> 00:14:58.655
Sekarang ini, topik citra tubuh positif

00:14:58.655 --> 00:15:01.325
menjadi sebuah agenda, ya

00:15:01.325 --> 00:15:04.620
dan film Anda "Yup, it's my body" dibuat 
pada 2009?

00:15:04.620 --> 00:15:07.160
sembilan, sembilan ya

00:15:07.165 --> 00:15:10.600
jadi itu adalah 11 tahun yang lalu

00:15:10.760 --> 00:15:13.085
mengangkat topik

00:15:13.085 --> 00:15:15.280
citra tubuh positif, ya

00:15:15.280 --> 00:15:17.980
jadi, saya pikir Anda lebih maju 
dari zaman itu

00:15:18.505 --> 00:15:19.505
benar?

00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:24.240
ya, menurut saya isu seperti ini

00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.265
ya, ini buruk karena setelah sekian lama

00:15:28.265 --> 00:15:30.075
kita masih harus

00:15:30.075 --> 00:15:32.795
kita masih punya masalah seperti ini

00:15:34.305 --> 00:15:37.035
Kiki, hal ini sangat bagus

00:15:37.040 --> 00:15:41.160
Anda menyinggung kaset di percakapan ini

00:15:41.160 --> 00:15:42.520
ya dan

00:15:42.905 --> 00:15:45.825
seperti yang saya pahami

00:15:45.825 --> 00:15:49.160
kira-kira 12 tahun lalu Anda masih bisa
menyaksikan

00:15:49.160 --> 00:15:51.120
era pra-digital

00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:54.380
Anda mungkin masih dapat bekerja 
dengan film mungkin

00:15:54.380 --> 00:15:56.920
mungkin bisa Anda ceritakan sedikit 
tentang itu

00:15:57.525 --> 00:16:00.615
Apakah ada perbedaan antara

00:16:00.615 --> 00:16:03.775
pembuatan film analog dan digital

00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.700
Sebenarnya ini seperti

00:16:07.700 --> 00:16:09.640
sangat berbeda seperti

00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.535
karena saat film analog

00:16:14.540 --> 00:16:16.700
biayanya sangat besar ya

00:16:16.700 --> 00:16:18.680
jika kita bicara soal produksi

00:16:18.680 --> 00:16:21.580
karena Anda haru membeli kaset mini DV

00:16:21.580 --> 00:16:22.920
dan satu kaset

00:16:24.760 --> 00:16:27.680
harganya kira-kira 20 000 IDR

00:16:27.680 --> 00:16:31.040
mungkin 2 USD saat itu

00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:32.915
lalu satu kaset

00:16:32.915 --> 00:16:35.605
mampu merekam sekitar 60 menit

00:16:35.605 --> 00:16:38.880
sekitar 1 jam

00:16:38.880 --> 00:16:42.200
dan sekarang Anda dapat menggunakan

00:16:42.205 --> 00:16:44.535
SD Card...atau

00:16:46.405 --> 00:16:49.525
hanya memory card, jadi semua digital

00:16:49.525 --> 00:16:53.140
jadi, Anda dapat merekam apapun kapanpun

00:16:53.140 --> 00:16:54.755
sesuai mau Anda

00:16:54.755 --> 00:16:56.635
lalu Anda tinggal memindahkannya ke

00:16:57.005 --> 00:17:00.155
Harddisk atau komputer Anda

00:17:00.160 --> 00:17:02.340
dan selesaai, jadi

00:17:02.340 --> 00:17:05.880
Anda dapat menggunakannya berulang kali
setiap saat

00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:09.060
ya, maksud saya, Anda tinggal membeli

00:17:09.340 --> 00:17:11.280
sekali atau dua kali

00:17:11.280 --> 00:17:14.575
atau membeli beberapa, tapi Anda dapat
menggunakan

00:17:14.580 --> 00:17:17.320
kartu ini berulang kali setiap saat

00:17:17.320 --> 00:17:19.080
tidak perlu khawatir bahwa

00:17:19.820 --> 00:17:21.680
di situasi mendesak

00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:23.640
di situasi seperti itu

00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:25.440
Anda akan kehabisan kaset, benar

00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:29.340
ya dan juga

00:17:31.380 --> 00:17:33.320
masalahnya adalah

00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.013
saya rasa setidaknya menurut saya

00:17:36.020 --> 00:17:37.240
saya rasa

00:17:37.460 --> 00:17:40.500
dengan kaset mini dV

00:17:40.500 --> 00:17:42.300
itu seperti

00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.840
melatih kita untuk lebih disiplin

00:17:49.005 --> 00:17:51.155
saya terlatih untuk disiplin

00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.540
dengan ini karena saya harus

00:17:53.540 --> 00:17:56.860
memikirkan pendanaan secara akurat

00:17:56.860 --> 00:17:58.780
mempertimbangkan waktu

00:18:00.700 --> 00:18:02.540
hal-hal seperti itu

00:18:02.545 --> 00:18:03.545
bahkan saya...

00:18:03.875 --> 00:18:06.955
jadi, Anda punya batasan, 
maksud saya seperti

00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.300
dengan pembuatan film analog 
Anda memiliki batasan

00:18:10.300 --> 00:18:12.460
ya, saya punya batasan-batasan, tapi

00:18:12.460 --> 00:18:14.920
banyak juga

00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:17.980
kelebihan dan kekurangan, tentu saja, ya

00:18:18.380 --> 00:18:19.660
saat itu saya

00:18:20.140 --> 00:18:23.075
saya ingat karena saya melakukan semuanya 
sendiri

00:18:23.080 --> 00:18:25.620
Saya memberi tanda pada

00:18:25.620 --> 00:18:29.620
pada kaset dengan stiker

00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.375
karena saat penyuntingan dan 
paska produksi

00:18:34.375 --> 00:18:36.685
saya duduk di samping

00:18:37.855 --> 00:18:38.935
penyunting saya

00:18:39.245 --> 00:18:42.045
dan saya dapat mengingat dengan tepat

00:18:42.045 --> 00:18:44.695
ok, footage ini

00:18:44.695 --> 00:18:47.435
berada di kaset nomor ini dan ini

00:18:47.435 --> 00:18:50.215
dan kode waktunya kira kira adalah

00:18:50.215 --> 00:18:52.885
menit ke sekian, detik

00:18:52.885 --> 00:18:56.095
mungkin agak berbeda ya

00:18:56.625 --> 00:18:58.855
tapi saya dapat mengingat seperti ini

00:19:00.065 --> 00:19:02.935
ya, itu lebih mudah karena kami punya

00:19:02.940 --> 00:19:06.440
ya, saya masih menyimpan mini DV kaset saya, 
jadi

00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:11.100
terkadang saya mencoba mengingat

00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:15.000
ohh, waktu itu saat saya membuat 
film pendek itu saya harus

00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.980
mengingat hal-hal ini

00:19:19.840 --> 00:19:23.360
ya, itu tentang produksi lalu

00:19:23.580 --> 00:19:26.260
lalu selanjutnya tentang distribusi

00:19:26.265 --> 00:19:27.465
dulu

00:19:27.860 --> 00:19:30.280
lebih mahal tentunya

00:19:30.280 --> 00:19:33.520
dibanding sekarang, distribusi sangat 
murah

00:19:33.520 --> 00:19:36.800
karena kita dapat melakukannya online ya

00:19:36.840 --> 00:19:38.980
Kiki, Saya juga tahu

00:19:38.980 --> 00:19:41.280
bahwaa Anda bekerja sebagai kru film

00:19:41.280 --> 00:19:42.455
di beberapa projek berbeda

00:19:42.460 --> 00:19:44.520
terkadang Anda menjadi sutradara

00:19:44.520 --> 00:19:47.420
terkadang Anda menjadi asisten sutradara

00:19:48.215 --> 00:19:50.485
terkadang Anda menjadi produser

00:19:50.485 --> 00:19:52.700
dan Anda tak hanya membuat film dokumenter

00:19:52.700 --> 00:19:54.800
tapi dengan media yang berbeda pula

00:19:54.800 --> 00:19:56.800
mungkin bisa Anda ceritakan

00:19:56.800 --> 00:19:59.500
sedikit tentang proses pengambilan gambar

00:19:59.500 --> 00:20:01.100
proses pengambilan gambar itu

00:20:01.100 --> 00:20:02.860
Apa arti pengambilan gambar bagimu?

00:20:07.285 --> 00:20:10.195
Hal itu berbeda, setiap produksi memiliki

00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.000
tipe yang berbeda

00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.460
Maksud saya mari kita

00:20:18.700 --> 00:20:21.660
ambil gambaran umumnya seperti antara

00:20:21.660 --> 00:20:24.680
film dokumenter dan non-dokumenter, 
contohnya

00:20:25.800 --> 00:20:28.320
di film non-dokumenter biasanya

00:20:28.320 --> 00:20:30.320
kita memiliki lebih banyak kru

00:20:32.580 --> 00:20:34.500
non-dokumenter, fiksi

00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:36.495
fiksi atau itu bisa juga

00:20:36.500 --> 00:20:38.940
iklan atau hal semacamnya

00:20:39.100 --> 00:20:40.900
apapun yang

00:20:42.760 --> 00:20:45.360
bukan dokumenter

00:20:45.360 --> 00:20:47.160
biasanya kita

00:20:47.660 --> 00:20:49.860
setidaknya di situasi saya,

00:20:49.860 --> 00:20:50.940
di kasus saya

00:20:51.580 --> 00:20:52.860
saya punya

00:20:54.795 --> 00:20:57.835
pengalaman bekerja dengan lebih banyak kru

00:20:57.840 --> 00:21:00.400
untuk film non-dokumenter

00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:02.300
dan untuk dokumenter, saya memilih

00:21:02.860 --> 00:21:04.560
setidaknya sejauh ini

00:21:04.560 --> 00:21:05.895
saya memilih untuk bekerja

00:21:05.900 --> 00:21:08.720
dengan kru yang lebih sedikit

00:21:09.140 --> 00:21:12.315
dan biasanya di film dokumenter

00:21:12.315 --> 00:21:14.575
saya dapat memilih sendiri kru saya

00:21:14.575 --> 00:21:16.395
saya lebih suka memilih kru 
saya sendiri

00:21:17.260 --> 00:21:19.840
orang-orang yang saya kenal

00:21:19.840 --> 00:21:22.335
seperti kami sudah mengenal satu sama lain

00:21:22.340 --> 00:21:25.020


00:21:25.020 --> 00:21:27.440


00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.160


00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:31.680


00:21:32.075 --> 00:21:33.855


00:21:34.265 --> 00:21:37.405


00:21:37.405 --> 00:21:39.775


00:21:39.775 --> 00:21:40.975


00:21:40.975 --> 00:21:42.525


00:21:42.525 --> 00:21:45.645


00:21:45.645 --> 00:21:48.320


00:21:48.320 --> 00:21:50.855


00:21:50.855 --> 00:21:53.225


00:21:53.225 --> 00:21:55.465


00:21:55.925 --> 00:21:58.995


00:21:58.995 --> 00:22:02.055


00:22:02.165 --> 00:22:04.845


00:22:04.845 --> 00:22:07.835


00:22:07.835 --> 00:22:10.765


00:22:10.765 --> 00:22:11.765


00:22:11.845 --> 00:22:13.555


00:22:13.560 --> 00:22:16.320


00:22:16.320 --> 00:22:18.280


00:22:18.835 --> 00:22:19.895


00:22:21.260 --> 00:22:25.060


00:22:25.060 --> 00:22:26.700


00:22:26.700 --> 00:22:29.120


00:22:30.005 --> 00:22:32.915


00:22:32.915 --> 00:22:36.015


00:22:36.020 --> 00:22:38.400


00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:40.580


00:22:40.580 --> 00:22:43.500


00:22:43.505 --> 00:22:46.485


00:22:46.485 --> 00:22:49.835


00:22:49.835 --> 00:22:52.625


00:22:52.625 --> 00:22:55.645


00:22:55.645 --> 00:22:58.700


00:22:59.260 --> 00:23:03.015


00:23:03.015 --> 00:23:05.565


00:23:05.815 --> 00:23:08.305


00:23:09.840 --> 00:23:12.040


00:23:12.040 --> 00:23:14.440


00:23:15.020 --> 00:23:18.075


00:23:18.080 --> 00:23:21.375


00:23:22.300 --> 00:23:24.860


00:23:24.860 --> 00:23:26.960


00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.700


00:23:30.700 --> 00:23:32.540


00:23:32.540 --> 00:23:35.960


00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.080


00:23:38.080 --> 00:23:41.060


00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.320


00:23:44.325 --> 00:23:46.805


00:23:46.805 --> 00:23:49.375


00:23:49.375 --> 00:23:51.855


00:23:51.855 --> 00:23:55.025


00:23:55.025 --> 00:23:58.700


00:23:58.700 --> 00:24:00.180


00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:06.320


00:24:06.320 --> 00:24:08.900


00:24:09.300 --> 00:24:13.040


00:24:13.040 --> 00:24:15.495


00:24:15.495 --> 00:24:17.415


00:24:17.415 --> 00:24:20.585


00:24:20.800 --> 00:24:23.520


00:24:23.520 --> 00:24:24.840


00:24:24.840 --> 00:24:27.080


00:24:27.080 --> 00:24:30.220


00:24:30.600 --> 00:24:34.060


00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.040


00:24:37.040 --> 00:24:39.920


00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.575


00:24:43.580 --> 00:24:45.920


00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:48.540


00:24:48.540 --> 00:24:51.580


00:24:51.580 --> 00:24:52.460


00:24:52.460 --> 00:24:56.040


00:24:56.040 --> 00:24:57.900


00:24:57.900 --> 00:24:59.240


00:24:59.245 --> 00:25:00.795


00:25:00.795 --> 00:25:03.615


00:25:05.785 --> 00:25:08.365


00:25:08.655 --> 00:25:11.525


00:25:11.525 --> 00:25:13.680


00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:16.980


00:25:16.980 --> 00:25:20.200


00:25:22.140 --> 00:25:24.360


00:25:25.380 --> 00:25:27.600


00:25:27.600 --> 00:25:29.820


00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:32.920


00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:34.380


00:25:34.385 --> 00:25:36.385


00:25:36.795 --> 00:25:39.685


00:25:39.685 --> 00:25:42.145


00:25:42.145 --> 00:25:45.595


00:25:46.060 --> 00:25:49.480


00:25:50.520 --> 00:25:53.460


00:25:53.465 --> 00:25:55.835


00:25:56.775 --> 00:25:59.685


00:25:59.685 --> 00:26:00.685


00:26:00.895 --> 00:26:02.025


00:26:03.685 --> 00:26:05.482


00:26:05.482 --> 00:26:06.645


00:26:06.645 --> 00:26:09.375


00:26:09.800 --> 00:26:12.220


00:26:12.220 --> 00:26:13.880


00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.060


00:26:16.060 --> 00:26:18.420


00:26:18.420 --> 00:26:20.855


00:26:20.855 --> 00:26:22.245


00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.800


00:26:26.800 --> 00:26:28.820


00:26:30.045 --> 00:26:31.285


00:26:31.285 --> 00:26:32.780


00:26:32.780 --> 00:26:35.740


00:26:35.745 --> 00:26:37.485


00:26:37.485 --> 00:26:40.615


00:26:40.860 --> 00:26:43.880


00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.100


00:26:47.100 --> 00:26:49.200


00:26:49.700 --> 00:26:53.040


00:26:53.040 --> 00:26:55.340


00:26:55.340 --> 00:26:57.840


00:26:57.840 --> 00:27:00.935


00:27:00.935 --> 00:27:03.855


00:27:04.245 --> 00:27:06.985


00:27:06.985 --> 00:27:09.680


00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.240


00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.700


00:27:15.700 --> 00:27:18.940


00:27:18.980 --> 00:27:21.705


00:27:21.705 --> 00:27:25.000


00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:29.660


00:27:31.180 --> 00:27:34.020


00:27:34.020 --> 00:27:36.500


00:27:36.500 --> 00:27:38.660


00:27:38.660 --> 00:27:40.280


00:27:40.280 --> 00:27:42.415


00:27:42.415 --> 00:27:44.435


00:27:48.175 --> 00:27:51.265


00:27:51.265 --> 00:27:54.765


00:27:56.605 --> 00:27:59.005


00:27:59.005 --> 00:28:02.440


00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.200


00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.380


00:28:09.380 --> 00:28:11.740


00:28:13.120 --> 00:28:14.695


00:28:14.695 --> 00:28:17.565


00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.900


00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:25.480


00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:29.440


00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:30.820


00:28:31.300 --> 00:28:33.460


00:28:33.460 --> 00:28:36.060


00:28:36.060 --> 00:28:38.000


00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.020


00:28:44.020 --> 00:28:46.460


00:28:47.760 --> 00:28:49.840


00:28:49.840 --> 00:28:52.560


00:28:53.040 --> 00:28:55.745


00:28:55.745 --> 00:28:58.895


00:28:59.300 --> 00:29:01.900


00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.440


00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:07.980


00:29:07.980 --> 00:29:10.340


00:29:10.340 --> 00:29:12.700


00:29:12.700 --> 00:29:13.880


00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:15.840


00:29:15.845 --> 00:29:18.705


00:29:18.705 --> 00:29:20.740


00:29:20.740 --> 00:29:23.040


00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:25.440


00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.660


00:29:29.660 --> 00:29:31.660


00:29:37.220 --> 00:29:40.160


00:29:42.545 --> 00:29:45.305


00:29:46.925 --> 00:29:49.925


00:29:49.925 --> 00:29:52.975


00:29:52.980 --> 00:29:55.460


00:29:57.740 --> 00:29:59.980


00:30:00.560 --> 00:30:03.440


00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.500


00:30:07.500 --> 00:30:08.820


00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.655


00:30:12.660 --> 00:30:14.660


00:30:14.660 --> 00:30:17.320


00:30:18.780 --> 00:30:21.815


00:30:21.820 --> 00:30:23.440


00:30:24.620 --> 00:30:27.900


00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:31.740


00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:33.960


00:30:34.165 --> 00:30:35.465


00:30:35.465 --> 00:30:39.020


00:30:43.180 --> 00:30:45.740


00:30:45.740 --> 00:30:49.980


00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.571


00:30:52.580 --> 00:30:54.600


00:30:54.600 --> 00:30:56.580


00:30:56.585 --> 00:30:58.235


00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.360


00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:04.700


00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.215


00:31:08.220 --> 00:31:10.320


00:31:10.320 --> 00:31:13.440


00:31:14.780 --> 00:31:16.575


00:31:16.575 --> 00:31:19.445


00:31:19.445 --> 00:31:21.860


00:31:21.860 --> 00:31:24.880


00:31:24.885 --> 00:31:26.905


00:31:27.275 --> 00:31:30.085


00:31:30.085 --> 00:31:33.560


00:31:33.560 --> 00:31:35.820


00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.680


00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.760


00:31:41.760 --> 00:31:45.240


00:31:45.600 --> 00:31:47.820


00:31:48.460 --> 00:31:51.715


00:31:54.500 --> 00:31:57.700


00:32:00.360 --> 00:32:02.880


00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:05.620


00:32:06.140 --> 00:32:08.475


00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.400


00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:12.440


00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.300


00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:19.600


00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:21.800


00:32:21.800 --> 00:32:23.800


00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:26.800


00:32:26.800 --> 00:32:28.960


00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.960


00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.920


00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.480


00:32:41.105 --> 00:32:43.655


00:32:43.660 --> 00:32:46.200


00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:48.320


00:32:48.320 --> 00:32:49.500


00:32:51.855 --> 00:32:54.905


00:32:54.975 --> 00:32:56.905


00:32:56.905 --> 00:32:58.345


00:32:58.345 --> 00:33:00.500


00:33:00.500 --> 00:33:02.520


00:33:02.520 --> 00:33:05.295


00:33:05.295 --> 00:33:07.965


00:33:07.965 --> 00:33:10.275


00:33:10.275 --> 00:33:13.005


00:33:13.335 --> 00:33:16.375


00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:18.500


00:33:18.500 --> 00:33:22.080


00:33:22.080 --> 00:33:23.400


00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.380


00:33:27.380 --> 00:33:29.000


00:33:29.335 --> 00:33:32.345


00:33:32.555 --> 00:33:36.045


00:33:36.425 --> 00:33:39.285


00:33:39.285 --> 00:33:42.675


00:33:43.595 --> 00:33:46.635


00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:48.340


00:33:48.340 --> 00:33:50.160


00:33:50.165 --> 00:33:52.965


00:33:53.545 --> 00:33:56.455


00:33:59.180 --> 00:34:01.860


00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.060


00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.375


00:34:12.375 --> 00:34:14.705


00:34:14.705 --> 00:34:16.720


00:34:16.720 --> 00:34:18.780


00:34:18.780 --> 00:34:21.080


00:34:21.080 --> 00:34:22.700


00:34:22.700 --> 00:34:26.140


00:34:26.145 --> 00:34:27.925


00:34:31.345 --> 00:34:34.635


00:34:35.265 --> 00:34:37.485


00:34:37.485 --> 00:34:39.675


00:34:39.680 --> 00:34:42.800


00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.665


00:34:44.665 --> 00:34:47.280


00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:48.860


00:34:48.860 --> 00:34:50.440


00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.295


00:34:52.300 --> 00:34:54.560


00:34:54.560 --> 00:34:57.975


00:34:57.975 --> 00:35:00.935


00:35:00.935 --> 00:35:03.915


00:35:03.915 --> 00:35:06.875


00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.980


00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.540


00:35:14.540 --> 00:35:17.060


00:35:17.060 --> 00:35:20.200


00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:23.700


00:35:23.700 --> 00:35:25.860


00:35:25.860 --> 00:35:28.000


00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:29.140


00:35:29.140 --> 00:35:31.645


00:35:31.645 --> 00:35:34.760


00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.460


00:35:38.120 --> 00:35:40.700


00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:43.320


00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.740


00:35:45.740 --> 00:35:46.815


00:35:46.815 --> 00:35:48.175


00:35:48.175 --> 00:35:49.935


00:35:49.935 --> 00:35:52.915


00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.900


00:35:54.900 --> 00:35:57.640


00:35:57.640 --> 00:35:59.433


00:35:59.433 --> 00:36:01.205


00:36:02.055 --> 00:36:05.125


00:36:05.125 --> 00:36:07.775


00:36:09.540 --> 00:36:12.700


00:36:12.700 --> 00:36:15.775


00:36:17.125 --> 00:36:19.885


00:36:19.885 --> 00:36:22.935


00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.800


00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:31.060


00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.175


00:36:34.180 --> 00:36:36.880


00:36:37.720 --> 00:36:40.620


00:36:40.620 --> 00:36:42.160


00:36:42.160 --> 00:36:44.160


00:36:44.160 --> 00:36:46.500


00:36:47.740 --> 00:36:51.180


00:36:52.300 --> 00:36:55.680


00:36:55.680 --> 00:36:58.100


00:36:58.100 --> 00:37:00.300


00:37:01.105 --> 00:37:02.885


00:37:03.685 --> 00:37:06.655


00:37:06.925 --> 00:37:09.985


00:37:09.985 --> 00:37:12.455


00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:13.860


00:37:13.860 --> 00:37:19.160


00:37:19.700 --> 00:37:22.660


00:37:22.660 --> 00:37:23.640


00:37:23.640 --> 00:37:25.560


00:37:25.560 --> 00:37:28.040


00:37:29.780 --> 00:37:32.400


00:37:35.140 --> 00:37:38.360


00:37:38.500 --> 00:37:40.880


00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:43.480


00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.380


00:37:46.380 --> 00:37:49.140


00:37:49.140 --> 00:37:52.660


00:37:53.140 --> 00:37:55.720


00:37:55.720 --> 00:37:58.800


00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.740


00:38:03.180 --> 00:38:04.520


00:38:05.215 --> 00:38:08.485


00:38:08.485 --> 00:38:11.425


00:38:11.425 --> 00:38:14.180


00:38:14.180 --> 00:38:16.980


00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:19.440


00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:21.480


00:38:21.980 --> 00:38:25.255


00:38:25.255 --> 00:38:28.275


00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.780


00:38:32.040 --> 00:38:34.260


00:38:35.060 --> 00:38:37.260


00:38:38.520 --> 00:38:41.580


00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:44.620


00:38:44.625 --> 00:38:46.425


00:38:46.425 --> 00:38:49.100


00:38:51.020 --> 00:38:53.460


00:38:53.460 --> 00:38:56.260


00:38:56.460 --> 00:38:57.920


00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.300


00:39:02.120 --> 00:39:05.600


00:39:05.600 --> 00:39:08.540


00:39:08.540 --> 00:39:10.380


00:39:10.380 --> 00:39:12.100


00:39:13.240 --> 00:39:15.560


00:39:15.560 --> 00:39:17.720


00:39:17.720 --> 00:39:20.120


00:39:20.725 --> 00:39:23.425


00:39:23.585 --> 00:39:26.405


00:39:26.405 --> 00:39:29.485


00:39:29.485 --> 00:39:31.635


00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.120


00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.820


00:39:39.080 --> 00:39:43.060


00:39:43.060 --> 00:39:44.420


00:39:45.315 --> 00:39:47.695


00:39:48.160 --> 00:39:49.640


00:39:49.640 --> 00:39:50.980


00:39:50.980 --> 00:39:53.480


00:39:53.855 --> 00:39:56.305


00:39:56.305 --> 00:39:58.120


00:39:58.120 --> 00:40:01.240


00:40:01.680 --> 00:40:05.060


00:40:05.060 --> 00:40:07.300


00:40:07.620 --> 00:40:08.645


00:40:08.645 --> 00:40:11.620


00:40:11.620 --> 00:40:14.680


00:40:15.240 --> 00:40:17.680


00:40:17.680 --> 00:40:19.515


00:40:19.515 --> 00:40:21.965


00:40:21.965 --> 00:40:24.705


00:40:25.385 --> 00:40:26.505


00:40:26.505 --> 00:40:28.440


00:40:28.700 --> 00:40:31.340


00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:33.860


00:40:34.020 --> 00:40:37.315


00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.920


00:40:41.700 --> 00:40:44.175


00:40:44.175 --> 00:40:47.075


00:40:47.080 --> 00:40:48.660


00:40:48.660 --> 00:40:51.780


00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.300


00:40:56.875 --> 00:40:58.655


00:40:59.420 --> 00:41:03.140


00:41:03.140 --> 00:41:05.195


00:41:05.195 --> 00:41:08.115


00:41:08.115 --> 00:41:09.845


00:41:12.865 --> 00:41:15.765


00:41:15.765 --> 00:41:17.680


00:41:17.680 --> 00:41:19.280


00:41:20.385 --> 00:41:22.265


00:41:23.395 --> 00:41:26.405


00:41:26.405 --> 00:41:30.820


00:41:33.460 --> 00:41:36.460


00:41:36.465 --> 00:41:39.425


00:41:39.425 --> 00:41:42.605


00:41:43.645 --> 00:41:46.725


00:41:46.785 --> 00:41:48.875


00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.140


00:41:53.080 --> 00:41:56.440


00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:58.220


00:41:58.225 --> 00:41:59.755


00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.400


00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:06.900


00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:08.400


00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:09.420


00:42:09.420 --> 00:42:12.300


00:42:12.300 --> 00:42:14.080


00:42:14.600 --> 00:42:16.560


00:42:16.560 --> 00:42:18.755


00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:20.840


00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.480


00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.260


00:42:24.260 --> 00:42:25.420


00:42:25.420 --> 00:42:26.940


00:42:26.940 --> 00:42:29.340


00:42:29.340 --> 00:42:32.220


00:42:33.725 --> 00:42:36.005


00:42:36.005 --> 00:42:38.040


00:42:39.620 --> 00:42:41.500


00:42:44.740 --> 00:42:47.800


00:42:47.805 --> 00:42:49.485


00:42:49.485 --> 00:42:51.800


00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:53.180


00:42:53.180 --> 00:42:55.020


00:42:55.020 --> 00:42:57.360


00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.880


00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:01.020


00:43:01.020 --> 00:43:01.800


00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:03.740


00:43:03.740 --> 00:43:05.440


00:43:05.660 --> 00:43:06.660


00:43:06.660 --> 00:43:08.660


00:43:08.660 --> 00:43:09.940