[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.24,0:00:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pat Mitchell: So I was thinking\Nabout female friendship a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.80,0:00:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and by the way, these two women, Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.08,0:00:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm very honored to say, Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.48,0:00:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have been my friends\Nfor a very long time, too. Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.44,0:00:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jane Fonda: Yes we have. Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.68,0:00:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: And one of the things\Nthat I read about female friendship Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.20,0:00:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something that Cervantes said. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.84,0:00:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "You can tell\Na lot about someone," Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.24,0:00:21.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this case a woman, Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.48,0:00:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"by the company that she keeps." Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.92,0:00:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So let's start with -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.16,0:00:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.32,0:00:29.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: We're in big trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.96,0:00:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lily Tomlin: Hand me one of those waters, Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.96,0:00:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm extremely dry. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.20,0:00:35.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.00,0:00:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: You're taking up our time. Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.64,0:00:44.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a very limited -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.96,0:00:47.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Just being with her\Nsucks the life out of me. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.32,0:00:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.12,0:00:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: You ain't seen nothing yet. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.88,0:00:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway -- sorry. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.12,0:00:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: So tell me, what do you\Nlook for in a friend? Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.52,0:01:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: I look for someone\Nwho has a sense of fun, Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.12,0:01:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's audacious, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.12,0:01:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's forthcoming, who has politics, Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.60,0:01:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who has even a small scrap\Nof passion for the planet, Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.48,0:01:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone who's decent,\Nhas a sense of justice Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.12,0:01:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who thinks I'm worthwhile. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.24,0:01:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.24,0:01:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.76,0:01:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: You know, I was thinking this morning, Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.80,0:01:27.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't even know what I would do\Nwithout my women friends. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.64,0:01:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean it's, "I have my friends,\Ntherefore I am." Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.68,0:01:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: (Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.92,0:01:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: No, it's true. Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.16,0:01:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I exist because I have\Nmy women friends. They -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.32,0:01:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're one of them. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.56,0:01:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know about you. But anyway -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.35,0:01:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.52,0:01:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, they make me stronger,\Nthey make me smarter, Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.12,0:01:44.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they make me braver. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.72,0:01:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They tap me on the shoulder when I might\Nbe in need of course-correcting. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.52,0:01:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And most of them are\Na good deal younger than me, too. Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.24,0:01:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know? I mean, it's nice --\NLT: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.92,0:01:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.40,0:02:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: No, I do, I include you in that,\Nbecause listen, you know -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.48,0:02:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's nice to have somebody still around\Nto play with and learn from Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.68,0:02:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you're getting toward the end. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.60,0:02:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm approaching --\NI'll be there sooner than you. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.92,0:02:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: No, I'm glad to have you\Nparallel aging alongside me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.64,0:02:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.72,0:02:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: I'm showing you the way. Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.24,0:02:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.48,0:02:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Well, you are and you have. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.40,0:02:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: Well, as we grow older, Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.76,0:02:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as we go through\Ndifferent kinds of life's journeys, Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.64,0:02:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you do to keep\Nyour friendships vital and alive? Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.12,0:02:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Well you have to use a lot of -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.88,0:02:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: She doesn't invite me over much,\NI'll tell you that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.56,0:02:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: I have to use a lot of social media -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.60,0:02:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You be quiet now. And so -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.12,0:02:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.44,0:02:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: And I look through my emails,\NI look through my texts Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.48,0:02:40.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to find my friends, Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.72,0:02:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I can answer them\Nas quickly as possible, Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.84,0:02:45.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I know they need my counsel. Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.28,0:02:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.08,0:02:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need my support, Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.36,0:02:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because most of my friends\Nare writers, or activists, or actors, Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.48,0:02:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're all three ... Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.80,0:02:57.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a long string\Nof other descriptive phrases, Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.44,0:03:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to get to you\Nas soon as possible, Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.76,0:03:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to know that I'm there for you. Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.84,0:03:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Do you do emojis? Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.16,0:03:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Oh ...\NJF: No? Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.08,0:03:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: That's embarrassing.\NJF: I'm really into emojis. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.56,0:03:10.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: No, I spell out my -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.00,0:03:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I spell out my words of happiness\Nand congratulations, Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.80,0:03:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sadness. Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.48,0:03:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: You spell it right out -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.92,0:03:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: I spell it, every letter. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.32,0:03:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.92,0:03:23.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Such a purist. Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.12,0:03:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, as I've gotten older, Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.08,0:03:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've understood more\Nthe importance of friendships, Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.32,0:03:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so, I really make an effort Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.20,0:03:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to reach out and make play dates --\Nnot let too much time go by. Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.84,0:03:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read a lot Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.08,0:03:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, as Lily knows all too well, Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.04,0:03:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my books that I like,\NI send to my friends. Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.12,0:03:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: When we knew we would be here today Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.08,0:03:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you sent me a lot of books\Nabout women, female friendships, Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.92,0:03:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was so surprised\Nto see how many books, Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.48,0:03:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how much research\Nhas been done recently -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.84,0:03:53.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: And were you grateful?\NLT: I was grateful. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.36,0:03:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.40,0:03:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: And -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.64,0:04:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Wait, no, it's really important\Nbecause this is another example Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.84,0:04:06.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how women are overlooked,\Nput aside, marginalized. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.24,0:04:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's been very little\Nresearch done on us, Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.04,0:04:11.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even though we volunteered lots of times. Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.04,0:04:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: That's for sure. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.32,0:04:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.96,0:04:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: This is really exciting,\Nand you all will be interested in this. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.20,0:04:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Harvard Medical School study has shown Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.92,0:04:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that women who have\Nclose female friendships Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.16,0:04:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are less likely to develop impairments -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.80,0:04:30.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physical impairments as they age, Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.96,0:04:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are likely to be seen\Nto be living much more vital, exciting -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.48,0:04:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: And longer -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.72,0:04:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Joyful lives. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.96,0:04:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: We live five years longer than men. Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.88,0:04:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: I think I'd trade the years for joy. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.96,0:04:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.72,0:04:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: But the most important\Npart is they found -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.00,0:04:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the results were so exciting\Nand so conclusive -- Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.88,0:04:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the researchers found Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.80,0:05:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that not having close female friends\Nis detrimental to your health, Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.56,0:05:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as much as smoking or being overweight. Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.56,0:05:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: And there's something else, too -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.44,0:05:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: I've said my part, so ... Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.88,0:05:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.92,0:05:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: OK, well, listen to my part,\Nbecause there's an additional thing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.60,0:05:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they only --\Nfor years, decades -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.80,0:05:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they only researched men when they\Nwere trying to understand stress, Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.08,0:05:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only very recently have they researched\Nwhat happens to women when we're stressed, Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.60,0:05:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it turns out\Nthat when we're stressed -- women, Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.96,0:05:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our bodies get flooded by oxytocin. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.20,0:05:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is a feel-good, calming,\Nstress-reducing hormone. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.72,0:05:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is also increased\Nwhen we're with our women friends. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.80,0:05:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I do think that's one reason\Nwhy we live longer. Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.20,0:05:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I feel so bad for men\Nbecause they don't have that. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.84,0:05:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Testosterone in men\Ndiminishes the effects of oxytocin. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.08,0:05:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Well, when you and I\Nand Dolly made "9 to 5" ... Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.32,0:05:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Oh -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.56,0:05:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: We laughed, we did,\Nwe laughed so much, Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.64,0:05:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we found we had so much in common\Nand we're so different. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.36,0:06:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here she is, like Hollywood royalty, Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.10,0:06:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like a tough kid from Detroit, Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.20,0:06:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dolly's] a Southern kid\Nfrom a poor town in Tennessee, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.92,0:06:10.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we found we were so in sync as women, Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.36,0:06:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we must have -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.60,0:06:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we laughed -- we must have added\Nat least a decade onto our lifespans. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.76,0:06:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: I think -- we sure\Ncrossed our legs a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.56,0:06:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.56,0:06:25.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you know what I mean. Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.20,0:06:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: I think we all know what you mean. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.40,0:06:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.44,0:06:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: You're adding decades\Nto our lives right now. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.16,0:06:37.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So among the books that Jane\Nsent us both to read on female friendship Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.12,0:06:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was one by a woman we admire greatly,\NSister Joan Chittister, Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.00,0:06:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who said about female friendship Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.12,0:06:47.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that women friends\Nare not just a social act, Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.40,0:06:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're a spiritual act. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.32,0:06:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think of your friends as spiritual? Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.56,0:06:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do they add something\Nspiritual to your lives? Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.00,0:06:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Spiritual -- I absolutely think that. Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.04,0:07:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because -- especially people\Nyou've known a long time, Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.12,0:07:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people you've spent time with -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.72,0:07:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can see the spiritual\Nessence inside them, Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.80,0:07:08.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the tenderness, the vulnerability. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.44,0:07:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's actually kind of a love,\Nan element of love in the relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.64,0:07:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just see deeply into your soul. Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.32,0:07:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: Do you think that, Jane -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.80,0:07:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: But I have special powers. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.12,0:07:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Well, there's all kinds of friends. Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.04,0:07:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's business friends,\Nand party friends, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.60,0:07:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got a lot of those. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.04,0:07:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.04,0:07:33.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the oxytocin-producing\Nfriendships have ... Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.32,0:07:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They feel spiritual\Nbecause it's a heart opening, right? Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.84,0:07:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, we go deep. And -- Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.84,0:07:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find that I shed tears a lot\Nwith my intimate friends. Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.04,0:07:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not because I'm sad but because\NI'm so touched and inspired by them. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.36,0:07:56.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: And you know one of you\Nis going to go soon. Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.12,0:08:00.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.52,0:08:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: Well, two of us are sitting here,\NLily, which one are you talking about? Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.00,0:08:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.40,0:08:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I always think, when women\Ntalk about their friendships, Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.24,0:08:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that men always look a little mystified. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.52,0:08:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What are the differences, in your opinion, Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.08,0:08:20.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between men friendships\Nand women friendships? Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.08,0:08:22.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: There's a lot of difference, Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.08,0:08:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think we have to have\Na lot of empathy for men -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.04,0:08:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.76,0:08:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they don't have what we have. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.04,0:08:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which I think may be why they die sooner. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.60,0:08:35.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.16,0:08:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a lot of compassion for men, Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.88,0:08:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because women, no kidding, we -- Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.52,0:08:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women's relationships, our friendships\Nare full disclosure, we go deep. Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.16,0:08:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're revelatory. Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.76,0:08:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We risk vulnerability --\Nthis is something men don't do. Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.12,0:08:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean how many times\Nhave I asked you, "Am I doing OK?" Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.68,0:08:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Did I really screw up there?" Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.96,0:09:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: You're doing great. Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.36,0:09:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.48,0:09:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: But I mean, we ask questions like that Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.64,0:09:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our women friends, Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.88,0:09:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and men don't. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.92,0:09:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, people describe women's\Nrelationships as face-to-face, Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.84,0:09:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas men's friendships\Nare more side-by-side. Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.88,0:09:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: I mean most of the time\Nmen don't want to reveal their emotions, Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.64,0:09:21.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want to bury deeper feelings. Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.36,0:09:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, that's the general,\Nconventional thought. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.40,0:09:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would rather go off in their man cave\Nand watch a game or hit golf balls, Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.96,0:09:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or talk about sports,\Nor hunting, or cars or have sex. Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.60,0:09:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's just the kind of --\Nit's a more manly behavior. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.88,0:09:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: You meant --\NLT: They talk about sex. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.20,0:09:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I meant they might have sex Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.92,0:09:43.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they could get somebody\Nin their man cave to -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.32,0:09:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.36,0:09:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: You know something, though,\Nthat I find very interesting -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.60,0:09:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and again, psychologists didn't know this\Nuntil relatively recently -- Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.20,0:09:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that men are born every bit\Nas relational as women are. Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.96,0:10:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at films\Nof newborn baby boys and girls, Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.60,0:10:03.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll see the baby boys\Njust like the girls, Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.72,0:10:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gazing into their mother's eyes, Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.08,0:10:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, needing that relational\Nexchange of energy. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.28,0:10:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the mother looks away,\Nthey could see the dismay on the child, Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.60,0:10:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even the boy would cry. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.88,0:10:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need relationship. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.76,0:10:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the question is why,\Nas they grow older, does that change? Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.76,0:10:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the answer is patriarchal culture, Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.12,0:10:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which says to boys and young men Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.12,0:10:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to be needing of relationship,\Nto be emotional with someone is girly. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.40,0:10:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That a real man doesn't ask\Ndirections or express a need, Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.08,0:10:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't go to doctors if they feel bad. Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.40,0:10:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't ask for help. Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.00,0:10:44.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a quote that I really like, Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.72,0:10:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Men fear that becoming 'we'\Nwill erase his 'I'." Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.48,0:10:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, his sense of self. Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.20,0:10:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas women's sense of self\Nhas always been kind of porous. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.72,0:10:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But our "we" is our saving grace, Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.56,0:11:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's what makes us strong. Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.04,0:11:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not that we're better than men, Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.80,0:11:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we just don't have\Nour masculinity to prove. Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.44,0:11:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: And, well -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.68,0:11:09.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: That's a Gloria Steinem quote. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.36,0:11:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we can express our humanity --\NLT: I know who Gloria Steinem is. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.76,0:11:15.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: I know you know who she is,\Nbut I think it's a -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.26,0:11:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.32,0:11:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, but it's a great quote, I think. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.20,0:11:23.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're not better than men, we just\Ndon't have our masculinity to prove. Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.48,0:11:24.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's really important. Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.88,0:11:27.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: But men are\Nso inculcated in the culture Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.48,0:11:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be comfortable in the patriarchy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.64,0:11:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we've got to make\Nsomething different happen. Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.60,0:11:37.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Women's friendships\Nare like a renewable source of power. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.80,0:11:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Well, that's what's exciting\Nabout this subject. Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.28,0:11:41.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's because our friendships -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.84,0:11:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,female friendships\Nare just a hop to our sisterhood, Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.48,0:11:49.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sisterhood can be\Na very powerful force, Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.92,0:11:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give the world -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.36,0:11:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make it what it should be -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.20,0:11:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things that humans desperately need. Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.84,0:11:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: It is why we're talking about it, Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.68,0:12:00.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because women's friendships are, Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.40,0:12:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you said, Jane, Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.64,0:12:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a renewable source of power. Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.00,0:12:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do we use that power? Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.76,0:12:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Well, women are the fastest growing\Ndemographic in the world, Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.16,0:12:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially older women. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.40,0:12:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if we harness our power,\Nwe can change the world. Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.48,0:12:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And guess what? We need to. Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.04,0:12:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.20,0:12:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we need to do it soon. Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.52,0:12:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the things\Nthat we need to do -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.04,0:12:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we can do it as women -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.60,0:12:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for one thing, we kind of set\Nthe consumer standards. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.72,0:12:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to consume less. Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.16,0:12:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We in the Western world\Nneed to consume less Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.16,0:12:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when we buy things, we need to\Nbuy things that are made locally, Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.40,0:12:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we buy food, we need to buy food\Nthat's grown locally. Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.52,0:12:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are the ones\Nthat need to get off the grid. Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.76,0:12:47.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to make ourselves\Nindependent from fossil fuels. Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.52,0:12:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the fossil fuel companies -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.52,0:12:52.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Exxons and the Shell Oils\Nand those bad guys -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.68,0:12:53.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cause they are -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.92,0:12:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are going to tell us that we can't do it\Nwithout going back to the Stone Age. Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.80,0:13:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, that the alternatives\Njust aren't quite there yet, Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.68,0:13:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's not true. Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.04,0:13:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are countries in the world right now Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.12,0:13:07.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are living mostly on renewable\Nenergy and doing just fine. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.48,0:13:11.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they tell us that if we do\Nwean ourselves from fossil fuel Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.64,0:13:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're going to be\Nback in the Stone Age, Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.80,0:13:17.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in fact, if we begin\Nto use renewable energy, Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.00,0:13:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not drill in the Arctic,\Nand not drill -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.19,0:13:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Oh, boy. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.38,0:13:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: And not drill\Nin the Alberta tar sands -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.52,0:13:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right. Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.76,0:13:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That we will be -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.04,0:13:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will be more democracy\Nand more jobs and more well-being, Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.44,0:13:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's women that are\Ngoing to lead the way. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.68,0:13:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Maybe we have the momentum\Nto start a third-wave feminist movement Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.08,0:13:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with our sisterhood around the world, Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.68,0:13:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with women we don't see,\Nwomen we may never meet, Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.88,0:13:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we join together that way, Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.40,0:13:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.64,0:13:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aristotle said -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.92,0:13:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most people -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.16,0:13:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people would die without male friendships. Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.08,0:13:55.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the operative word here was "male." Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.36,0:13:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they thought that friendships\Nshould be between equals Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.32,0:14:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and women were not considered equal -- Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.56,0:14:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: They didn't think\Nwe had souls even, the Greeks. Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.04,0:14:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: No, exactly. That shows you\Njust how limited Aristotle was. Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.92,0:14:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.52,0:14:11.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And wait, no, here's the best part. Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.44,0:14:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like, you know,\Nmen do need women now. Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.08,0:14:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The planet needs women. Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.24,0:14:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The US Constitution needs women. Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.72,0:14:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are not even in the Constitution. Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.52,0:14:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: You're talking about\Nthe Equal Rights Amendment. Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.00,0:14:26.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Right. Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.18,0:14:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Justice Ginsberg said something like -- Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.92,0:14:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every constitution that's been written\Nsince the end of World War II Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.52,0:14:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,included a provision that made women\Ncitizens of equal stature, Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.52,0:14:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but ours does not. Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.24,0:14:44.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that would be a good place to start. Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.16,0:14:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very, very mild -- Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.24,0:14:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Right. Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.48,0:14:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.20,0:14:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And gender equality, it's like a tide, Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.88,0:14:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would lift all boats, not just women. Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.84,0:14:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,PM: Needing new role models\Non how to do that. Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.40,0:14:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How to be friends, Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.84,0:15:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to think about our power\Nin different ways, Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.76,0:15:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as consumers, Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.00,0:15:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as citizens of the world, Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.68,0:15:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is what makes Jane and Lily Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.12,0:15:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a role model of how\Nwomen can be friends -- Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.88,0:15:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a very long time, Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.52,0:15:13.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even if they occasionally disagree. Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.96,0:15:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.36,0:15:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you both. Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.60,0:15:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.84,0:15:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Thanks. Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.56,0:15:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LT: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.80,0:15:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,JF: Thank you.