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Pat Mitchell: So I was thinking[br]about female friendship a lot,

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and by the way, these two women,

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I'm very honored to say,

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have been my friends[br]for a very long time, too.

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Jane Fonda: Yes we have.

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PM: And one of the things[br]that I read about female friendship

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is something that Cervantes said.

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He said, "You can tell[br]a lot about someone,"

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in this case a woman,

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"by the company that she keeps."

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So let's start with --

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(Laughter)

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JF: We're in big trouble.

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Lily Tomlin: Hand me one of those waters,

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I'm extremely dry.

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(Laughter)

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JF: You're taking up our time.

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We have a very limited --

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LT: Just being with her[br]sucks the life out of me.

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(Laughter)

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JF: You ain't seen nothing yet.

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Anyway -- sorry.

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PM: So tell me, what do you[br]look for in a friend?

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LT: I look for someone[br]who has a sense of fun,

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who's audacious,

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who's forthcoming, who has politics,

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who has even a small scrap[br]of passion for the planet,

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someone who's decent,[br]has a sense of justice

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and who thinks I'm worthwhile.

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(Laughter)

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(Applause)

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JF: You know, I was thinking this morning,

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I don't even know what I would do[br]without my women friends.

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I mean it's, "I have my friends,[br]therefore I am."

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LT: (Laughter)

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JF: No, it's true.

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I exist because I have[br]my women friends. They --

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You're one of them.

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I don't know about you. But anyway --

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(Laughter)

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You know, they make me stronger,[br]they make me smarter,

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they make me braver.

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They tap me on the shoulder when I might[br]be in need of course-correcting.

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And most of them are[br]a good deal younger than me, too.

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You know? I mean, it's nice --[br]LT: Thank you.

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(Laughter)

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JF: No, I do, I include you in that,[br]because listen, you know --

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it's nice to have somebody still around[br]to play with and learn from

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when you're getting toward the end.

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I'm approaching --[br]I'll be there sooner than you.

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LT: No, I'm glad to have you[br]parallel aging alongside me.

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(Laughter)

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JF: I'm showing you the way.

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(Laughter)

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LT: Well, you are and you have.

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PM: Well, as we grow older,

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and as we go through[br]different kinds of life's journeys,

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what do you do to keep[br]your friendships vital and alive?

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LT: Well you have to use a lot of --

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JF: She doesn't invite me over much,[br]I'll tell you that.

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LT: I have to use a lot of social media --

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You be quiet now. And so --

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(Laughter)

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LT: And I look through my emails,[br]I look through my texts

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to find my friends,

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so I can answer them[br]as quickly as possible,

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because I know they need my counsel.

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(Laughter)

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They need my support,

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because most of my friends[br]are writers, or activists, or actors,

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and you're all three ...

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and a long string[br]of other descriptive phrases,

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and I want to get to you[br]as soon as possible,

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I want you to know that I'm there for you.

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JF: Do you do emojis?

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LT: Oh ...[br]JF: No?

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LT: That's embarrassing.[br]JF: I'm really into emojis.

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LT: No, I spell out my --

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I spell out my words of happiness[br]and congratulations,

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and sadness.

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JF: You spell it right out --

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LT: I spell it, every letter.

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(Laughter)

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JF: Such a purist.

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You know, as I've gotten older,

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I've understood more[br]the importance of friendships,

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and so, I really make an effort

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to reach out and make play dates --[br]not let too much time go by.

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I read a lot

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so, as Lily knows all too well,

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my books that I like,[br]I send to my friends.

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LT: When we knew we would be here today

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you sent me a lot of books[br]about women, female friendships,

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and I was so surprised[br]to see how many books,

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how much research[br]has been done recently --

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JF: And were you grateful?[br]LT: I was grateful.

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(Laughter)

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PM: And --

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LT: Wait, no, it's really important[br]because this is another example

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of how women are overlooked,[br]put aside, marginalized.

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There's been very little[br]research done on us,

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even though we volunteered lots of times.

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JF: That's for sure.

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(Laughter)

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LT: This is really exciting,[br]and you all will be interested in this.

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The Harvard Medical School study has shown

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that women who have[br]close female friendships

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are less likely to develop impairments --

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physical impairments as they age,

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and they are likely to be seen[br]to be living much more vital, exciting --

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JF: And longer --

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LT: Joyful lives.

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JF: We live five years longer than men.

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LT: I think I'd trade the years for joy.

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(Laughter)

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LT: But the most important[br]part is they found --

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the results were so exciting[br]and so conclusive --

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the researchers found

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that not having close female friends[br]is detrimental to your health,

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as much as smoking or being overweight.

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JF: And there's something else, too --

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LT: I've said my part, so ...

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(Laughter)

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JF: OK, well, listen to my part,[br]because there's an additional thing.

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Because they only --[br]for years, decades --

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they only researched men when they[br]were trying to understand stress,

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only very recently have they researched[br]what happens to women when we're stressed,

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and it turns out[br]that when we're stressed -- women,

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our bodies get flooded by oxytocin.

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Which is a feel-good, calming,[br]stress-reducing hormone.

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Which is also increased[br]when we're with our women friends.

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And I do think that's one reason[br]why we live longer.

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And I feel so bad for men[br]because they don't have that.

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Testosterone in men[br]diminishes the effects of oxytocin.

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LT: Well, when you and I[br]and Dolly made "9 to 5" ...

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JF: Oh --

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LT: We laughed, we did,[br]we laughed so much,

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we found we had so much in common[br]and we're so different.

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Here she is, like Hollywood royalty,

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I'm like a tough kid from Detroit,

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[Dolly's] a Southern kid[br]from a poor town in Tennessee,

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and we found we were so in sync as women,

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and we must have --

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we laughed -- we must have added[br]at least a decade onto our lifespans.

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JF: I think -- we sure[br]crossed our legs a lot.

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(Laughter)

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If you know what I mean.

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LT: I think we all know what you mean.

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(Laughter)

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PM: You're adding decades[br]to our lives right now.

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So among the books that Jane[br]sent us both to read on female friendship

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was one by a woman we admire greatly,[br]Sister Joan Chittister,

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who said about female friendship

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that women friends[br]are not just a social act,

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they're a spiritual act.

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Do you think of your friends as spiritual?

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Do they add something[br]spiritual to your lives?

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LT: Spiritual -- I absolutely think that.

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Because -- especially people[br]you've known a long time,

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people you've spent time with --

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I can see the spiritual[br]essence inside them,

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the tenderness, the vulnerability.

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There's actually kind of a love,[br]an element of love in the relationship.

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I just see deeply into your soul.

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PM: Do you think that, Jane --

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LT: But I have special powers.

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JF: Well, there's all kinds of friends.

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There's business friends,[br]and party friends,

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I've got a lot of those.

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(Laughter)

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But the oxytocin-producing[br]friendships have ...

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They feel spiritual[br]because it's a heart opening, right?

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You know, we go deep. And --

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I find that I shed tears a lot[br]with my intimate friends.

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Not because I'm sad but because[br]I'm so touched and inspired by them.

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LT: And you know one of you[br]is going to go soon.

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(Laughter)

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PM: Well, two of us are sitting here,[br]Lily, which one are you talking about?

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(Laughter)

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And I always think, when women[br]talk about their friendships,

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that men always look a little mystified.

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What are the differences, in your opinion,

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between men friendships[br]and women friendships?

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JF: There's a lot of difference,

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and I think we have to have[br]a lot of empathy for men --

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(Laughter)

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that they don't have what we have.

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Which I think may be why they die sooner.

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(Laughter)

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I have a lot of compassion for men,

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because women, no kidding, we --

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women's relationships, our friendships[br]are full disclosure, we go deep.

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They're revelatory.

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We risk vulnerability --[br]this is something men don't do.

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I mean how many times[br]have I asked you, "Am I doing OK?"

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"Did I really screw up there?"

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PM: You're doing great.

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(Laughter)

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JF: But I mean, we ask questions like that

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of our women friends,

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and men don't.

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You know, people describe women's[br]relationships as face-to-face,

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whereas men's friendships[br]are more side-by-side.

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LT: I mean most of the time[br]men don't want to reveal their emotions,

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they want to bury deeper feelings.

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I mean, that's the general,[br]conventional thought.

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They would rather go off in their man cave[br]and watch a game or hit golf balls,

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or talk about sports,[br]or hunting, or cars or have sex.

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I mean, it's just the kind of --[br]it's a more manly behavior.

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JF: You meant --[br]LT: They talk about sex.

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I meant they might have sex

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if they could get somebody[br]in their man cave to --

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(Laughter)

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JF: You know something, though,[br]that I find very interesting --

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and again, psychologists didn't know this[br]until relatively recently --

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is that men are born every bit[br]as relational as women are.

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If you look at films[br]of newborn baby boys and girls,

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you'll see the baby boys[br]just like the girls,

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gazing into their mother's eyes,

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you know, needing that relational[br]exchange of energy.

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When the mother looks away,[br]they could see the dismay on the child,

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even the boy would cry.

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They need relationship.

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So the question is why,[br]as they grow older, does that change?

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And the answer is patriarchal culture,

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which says to boys and young men

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that to be needing of relationship,[br]to be emotional with someone is girly.

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That a real man doesn't ask[br]directions or express a need,

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they don't go to doctors if they feel bad.

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They don't ask for help.

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There's a quote that I really like,

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"Men fear that becoming 'we'[br]will erase his 'I'."

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You know, his sense of self.

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Whereas women's sense of self[br]has always been kind of porous.

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But our "we" is our saving grace,

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it's what makes us strong.

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It's not that we're better than men,

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we just don't have[br]our masculinity to prove.

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LT: And, well --

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JF: That's a Gloria Steinem quote.

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So we can express our humanity --[br]LT: I know who Gloria Steinem is.

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JF: I know you know who she is,[br]but I think it's a --

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(Laughter)

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No, but it's a great quote, I think.

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We're not better than men, we just[br]don't have our masculinity to prove.

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And that's really important.

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LT: But men are[br]so inculcated in the culture

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to be comfortable in the patriarchy.

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And we've got to make[br]something different happen.

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JF: Women's friendships[br]are like a renewable source of power.

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LT: Well, that's what's exciting[br]about this subject.

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It's because our friendships --

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female friendships[br]are just a hop to our sisterhood,

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and sisterhood can be[br]a very powerful force,

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to give the world --

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to make it what it should be --

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the things that humans desperately need.

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PM: It is why we're talking about it,

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because women's friendships are,

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as you said, Jane,

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a renewable source of power.

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So how do we use that power?

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JF: Well, women are the fastest growing[br]demographic in the world,

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especially older women.

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And if we harness our power,[br]we can change the world.

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And guess what? We need to.

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(Applause)

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And we need to do it soon.

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And one of the things[br]that we need to do --

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and we can do it as women --

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for one thing, we kind of set[br]the consumer standards.

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We need to consume less.

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We in the Western world[br]need to consume less

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and when we buy things, we need to[br]buy things that are made locally,

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when we buy food, we need to buy food[br]that's grown locally.

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We are the ones[br]that need to get off the grid.

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We need to make ourselves[br]independent from fossil fuels.

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And the fossil fuel companies --

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the Exxons and the Shell Oils[br]and those bad guys --

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cause they are --

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are going to tell us that we can't do it[br]without going back to the Stone Age.

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You know, that the alternatives[br]just aren't quite there yet,

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and that's not true.

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There are countries in the world right now

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that are living mostly on renewable[br]energy and doing just fine.

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And they tell us that if we do[br]wean ourselves from fossil fuel

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that we're going to be[br]back in the Stone Age,

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and in fact, if we begin[br]to use renewable energy,

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and not drill in the Arctic,[br]and not drill --

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LT: Oh, boy.

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JF: And not drill[br]in the Alberta tar sands --

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Right.

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That we will be --

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there will be more democracy[br]and more jobs and more well-being,

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and it's women that are[br]going to lead the way.

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LT: Maybe we have the momentum[br]to start a third-wave feminist movement

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with our sisterhood around the world,

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with women we don't see,[br]women we may never meet,

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but we join together that way,

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because --

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Aristotle said --

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most people --

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people would die without male friendships.

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And the operative word here was "male."

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Because they thought that friendships[br]should be between equals

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and women were not considered equal --

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JF: They didn't think[br]we had souls even, the Greeks.

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LT: No, exactly. That shows you[br]just how limited Aristotle was.

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(Laughter)

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And wait, no, here's the best part.

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It's like, you know,[br]men do need women now.

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The planet needs women.

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The US Constitution needs women.

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We are not even in the Constitution.

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JF: You're talking about[br]the Equal Rights Amendment.

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LT: Right.

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Justice Ginsberg said something like --

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every constitution that's been written[br]since the end of World War II

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included a provision that made women[br]citizens of equal stature,

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but ours does not.

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So that would be a good place to start.

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Very, very mild --

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JF: Right.

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(Applause)

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And gender equality, it's like a tide,

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it would lift all boats, not just women.

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PM: Needing new role models[br]on how to do that.

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How to be friends,

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how to think about our power[br]in different ways,

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as consumers,

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as citizens of the world,

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and this is what makes Jane and Lily

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a role model of how[br]women can be friends --

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for a very long time,

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and even if they occasionally disagree.

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Thank you.

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Thank you both.

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(Applause)

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JF: Thanks.

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LT: Thank you.

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JF: Thank you.

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(Applause)