1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Pat Mitchell: So I was thinking about female friendship a lot, 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and by the way, these two women I'm very honored to say 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 have been my friends for a very long time, too. 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Jane Fonda: Yes we have. 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 PM: And one of the things that I read about female friendship 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is something that Cervantes said, he said: 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "You can tell a lot about someone," 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in this case a woman, 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "by the company that she keeps." 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So let's start with -- 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: We're in big trouble. 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Lily Tomlin: Hand me one of those waters, 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm extremely dry. 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: You're taking up our time. 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We have a very limited -- 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: Just being with her sucks the life out of me. 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: You ain't seen nothing yet. 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Anyway -- sorry. 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 PM: So tell me, what do you look for in a friend? 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: I look for someone who has a sense of fun, 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who's audacious, 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who's forthcoming, who has politics, 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who has even a small scrap of passion for the planet, 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 someone who's decent, has a sense of justice, 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and who thinks I'm worthwhile. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Applause) 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: You know I was thinking this morning, 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don't even know what I would do without my women friends. 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I have my friends, therefore I am. 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: (Laughter) 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: No, it's true. 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I exist because I have my women friends. 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They -- 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You're one of them. 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don't know about you. 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But anyway -- 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You know, they make me stronger, they make me smarter, 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they make me braver. 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They tap me on the shoulder when I might be in need of course-correcting. 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And most of them are a good deal younger than me, too. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: Thank you. 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: No I do, I include you in that, 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because listen, you know -- 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's nice to have somebody still around to play with and learn from 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when you're getting toward the end. 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: I'm glad, I'm glad you -- 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: I'm approaching -- I'll be there sooner than you. 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: No I'm glad to have you parallel aging alongside me. 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: I'm showing you the way. 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: No, you are and you have. 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 PM: Well as we grow older, 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and as we go through different kinds of life's journeys, 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 what do you do to keep your friendships vital and alive? 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: Well you have to use a lot of -- 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: She doesn't invite me over much, I'll tell you that. 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: I have to use a lot of social media -- 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you be quiet now. 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so -- 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I go through -- I look through my emails, 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I look through my emails, I look through my texts 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to find my friends, so I can answer them as quickly as possible, 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because I know they need my counsel. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They need my support, 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because most of my friends are writers, or activists or actors, 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and you're all three, 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and a long string of other descriptive phrases, 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I want to get to you as soon as possible, 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I want you to know that I'm there for you. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: Do you do emojis? 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: Oh ... 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: No? 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: It's embarrassing. 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: I'm really into emojis. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: No I spell out my -- 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I spell out my words of happiness and congratulations, 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and sadness. 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: You spell it right out -- 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: I spell out every letter. 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: Such a purist. 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You know, 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as I've gotten older, I've understood more the importance of friendship. 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, I really make an effort to reach out and make play dates -- 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not let too much time go by. 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I read a lot so, 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as Lily knows all too well, 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 my books that I like, I send to my friends. 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: When you knew we would be here today 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you sent me a lot of books about women, female friendships, 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I was so surprised to see how many books, 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 how much research has been done recently -- 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: And were you grateful? 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: I was grateful. 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: And -- 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: And -- 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: Wait, no, it's really important because this is another example 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of how women are overlooked, put aside, marginalized, 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there's been very little research done on us, 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even though we volunteered lots of times. 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: That's for sure. 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: No-- this is really exciting, 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and you all will be interested in this, 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the Harvard Medical School Study has shown 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that women who have close female friendships 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are less likely to develop impairments -- 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 physical impairments as they age, 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they are likely to seem to be living much more vital, exciting -- 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: and longer -- 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: and joyful lives. 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: We life five years longer than men. 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: I think I'd trade the years for joy. 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: And, but the most important part is they found -- 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the results were so exciting and so conclusive -- 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the researchers found 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that not having close female friends is detrimental to your health, 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 as much as smoking or being overweight. 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: Well -- and there's something else, too -- 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: I've said my part, so ... 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: Okay, well listen to my part, because there's an additional thing. 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Because they only -- 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for years, decades -- 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they only researched men when they were trying to understand stress, 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 only very recently have they researched what happens to women when we're stressed, 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and it turns out that when we're stressed --women, 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 our bodies get flooded by oxytocin. 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Which is a feel-good, calming, stress reducing hormone. 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Which also is increased when we're with our women friends. 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I do think that's one reason why we live longer. 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I feel so bad for men because they don't have that. 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Testosterone in men diminishes the effects of oxytocin. 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: Well when you and I and Dolly made "9 to 5" -- 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: Oh -- 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: We laughed, we did, we laughed so much, 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we found we had so much in common. 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And we're so different. 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here she is like Hollywood royalty, 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I'm like a tough kid from Detroit, 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she's a southern kid from a poor town in Tennessee, 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we found we were so in sync as women, 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and we must have-- 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we laughed until we must have added at least a decade onto our lifespans. 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: I think -- we sure crossed our legs a lot. 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: If you know what I mean. 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: I think we all know what you mean. 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 PM: You're adding decades to our lives right now. 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So among the books that Jane sent us both to read on female friendship, 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 was one by a woman we admire greatly, Sister Joan Chittister, 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who said about female friendship 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that women friends are not just a social act, 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they're a spiritual act. 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Do you think of your friends as spiritual? 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Do they add something spiritual to you life? 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: Spiritual -- I absolutely think that. 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Because --especially people you've known a long time -- 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 people you've spent time with, 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I can see the spiritual essence inside them, 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the tenderness, the vulnerability. 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There's actually kind of a love, an element of love in the relationship. 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I just see deeply into your soul. 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 PM: Do you think that, Jane? 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: But I have special powers. 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 JF: Well there's all kinds of friends. 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 There's you know, business friends, and party friends, 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I got a lot of those. 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But the oxytocin producing friendships, 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they have -- they feel spiritual because it's a heart opening, right? 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You know, we go deep. 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I find that I shed tears a lot with my intimate friends. 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Not because I'm sad but because I'm so touched and inspired by them. 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 LT: And you know one of you's going to go soon. 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Laughter) 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 PM: Well two of us are sitting here, Lily, which one are you talking about?