0:00:00.440,0:00:04.082 Pat Mitchell: So I was thinking[br]about female friendship a lot, 0:00:04.082,0:00:06.202 and by the way, these two women, 0:00:06.202,0:00:07.632 I'm very honored to say, 0:00:07.632,0:00:10.662 have been my friends[br]for a very long time, too. 0:00:10.662,0:00:11.936 Jane Fonda: Yes we have. 0:00:11.936,0:00:15.351 PM: And one of the things[br]that I read about female friendship 0:00:15.351,0:00:16.995 is something that Cervantes said. 0:00:16.995,0:00:20.520 He said, "You can tell[br]a lot about someone," 0:00:20.520,0:00:21.672 in this case a woman, 0:00:21.672,0:00:24.149 "by the company that she keeps." 0:00:24.149,0:00:25.235 So let's start with -- 0:00:25.235,0:00:27.371 (Laughter) 0:00:28.537,0:00:30.118 JF: We're in big trouble. 0:00:30.118,0:00:32.074 Lily Tomlin: Hand me one of those waters, 0:00:32.074,0:00:33.872 I'm extremely dry. 0:00:33.872,0:00:36.418 (Laughter) 0:00:41.282,0:00:43.209 JF: You're taking up our time. 0:00:44.044,0:00:45.251 We have a very limited -- 0:00:45.251,0:00:47.562 LT: Just being with her[br]sucks the life out of me. 0:00:47.562,0:00:49.721 (Laughter) 0:00:50.477,0:00:52.208 JF: You ain't seen nothing yet. 0:00:52.208,0:00:53.894 Anyway -- sorry. 0:00:53.894,0:00:57.160 PM: So tell me, what do you[br]look for in a friend? 0:00:57.860,0:01:00.239 LT: I look for someone[br]who has a sense of fun, 0:01:00.239,0:01:03.375 who's audacious, 0:01:03.375,0:01:06.767 who's forthcoming, who has politics, 0:01:06.767,0:01:11.721 who has even a small scrap[br]of passion for the planet, 0:01:11.721,0:01:14.305 someone who's decent,[br]has a sense of justice, 0:01:14.305,0:01:16.580 and who thinks I'm worthwhile. 0:01:16.815,0:01:18.229 (Laughter) 0:01:18.229,0:01:19.814 (Applause) 0:01:22.760,0:01:24.714 JF: You know I was thinking this morning, 0:01:24.714,0:01:27.632 I don't even know what I would do[br]without my women friends. 0:01:27.632,0:01:30.603 I mean it's, "I have my friends,[br]therefore I am." 0:01:31.091,0:01:32.298 LT: (Laughter) 0:01:32.298,0:01:33.204 JF: No, it's true. 0:01:33.204,0:01:35.113 I exist because I have my women friends. 0:01:35.113,0:01:36.645 They -- 0:01:36.645,0:01:37.830 You're one of them. 0:01:37.830,0:01:38.935 I don't know about you. 0:01:38.935,0:01:39.818 But anyway -- 0:01:39.818,0:01:40.822 (Laughter) 0:01:40.822,0:01:43.399 You know, they make me stronger,[br]they make me smarter, 0:01:43.399,0:01:44.929 they make me braver. 0:01:44.929,0:01:49.537 They tap me on the shoulder when I might[br]be in need of course-correcting. 0:01:49.537,0:01:52.237 And most of them are[br]a good deal younger than me, too. 0:01:52.237,0:01:53.794 You know? I mean, it's nice -- 0:01:53.794,0:01:55.140 LT: Thank you. 0:01:55.140,0:01:56.556 (Laughter) 0:01:57.639,0:02:00.692 JF: No I do, I include you in that,[br]because listen, you know -- 0:02:00.692,0:02:03.966 it's nice to have somebody still around[br]to play with and learn from 0:02:03.966,0:02:06.098 when you're getting toward the end. 0:02:06.098,0:02:08.392 I'm approaching --[br]I'll be there sooner than you. 0:02:08.392,0:02:11.014 LT: No I'm glad to have you[br]parallel aging alongside me. 0:02:11.014,0:02:12.314 (Laughter) 0:02:12.970,0:02:14.580 JF: I'm showing you the way. 0:02:14.580,0:02:15.651 (Laughter) 0:02:15.651,0:02:17.837 LT: Well, you are and you have. 0:02:17.837,0:02:19.491 PM: Well as we grow older, 0:02:19.491,0:02:22.108 and as we go through[br]different kinds of life's journeys, 0:02:22.108,0:02:25.532 what do you do to keep[br]your friendships vital and alive? 0:02:26.050,0:02:27.762 LT: Well you have to use a lot of -- 0:02:27.762,0:02:30.382 JF: She doesn't invite me over much,[br]I'll tell you that. 0:02:30.382,0:02:32.476 LT: I have to use a lot of social media -- 0:02:32.476,0:02:33.559 you be quiet now, 0:02:33.559,0:02:34.562 and so -- 0:02:34.562,0:02:36.826 (Laughter) 0:02:36.826,0:02:37.935 LT: And I go through -- 0:02:37.935,0:02:40.220 I look through my emails,[br]I look through my texts 0:02:40.220,0:02:41.220 to find my friends, 0:02:41.220,0:02:43.264 so I can answer them[br]as quickly as possible, 0:02:43.264,0:02:45.844 because I know they need my counsel. 0:02:45.844,0:02:48.248 (Laughter) 0:02:48.248,0:02:49.519 They need my support, 0:02:49.519,0:02:52.711 because most of my friends[br]are writers, or activists, or actors, 0:02:52.711,0:02:54.221 and you're all three ... 0:02:54.221,0:02:57.594 and a long string[br]of other descriptive phrases, 0:02:57.594,0:03:02.099 and I want to get to you[br]as soon as possible, 0:03:02.099,0:03:04.166 I want you to know that I'm there for you. 0:03:04.166,0:03:05.430 JF: Do you do emojis? 0:03:05.430,0:03:06.576 LT: Oh ... 0:03:06.576,0:03:07.366 JF: No? 0:03:07.366,0:03:08.522 LT: That's embarrassing. 0:03:08.522,0:03:09.808 JF: I'm really into emojis. 0:03:09.808,0:03:11.377 LT: No I spell out my -- 0:03:11.377,0:03:15.955 I spell out my words of happiness[br]and congratulations, 0:03:15.955,0:03:17.564 and sadness. 0:03:17.564,0:03:18.943 JF: You spell it right out -- 0:03:18.943,0:03:20.551 LT: I spell it, every letter. 0:03:20.551,0:03:22.120 (Laughter) 0:03:22.120,0:03:23.116 JF: Such a purist. 0:03:23.116,0:03:25.376 You know, as I've gotten older, 0:03:25.376,0:03:28.566 I've understood more[br]the importance of friendships, 0:03:28.566,0:03:30.552 and so, I really make an effort 0:03:30.552,0:03:34.752 to reach out and make play dates --[br]not let too much time go by. 0:03:35.030,0:03:36.552 I read a lot so, 0:03:36.552,0:03:37.912 as Lily knows all too well, 0:03:37.912,0:03:40.533 my books that I like,[br]I send to my friends. 0:03:40.533,0:03:42.453 LT: When you knew we would be here today 0:03:42.453,0:03:45.213 you sent me a lot of books[br]about women, female friendships, 0:03:45.213,0:03:48.793 and I was so surprised to see[br]how many books, 0:03:48.793,0:03:50.953 how much research[br]has been done recently -- 0:03:50.953,0:03:52.403 JF: And were you grateful? 0:03:52.403,0:03:53.643 LT: I was grateful. 0:03:53.643,0:03:57.643 (Laughter) 0:03:58.719,0:03:59.505 PM: And -- 0:03:59.505,0:04:02.705 LT: Wait, no, it's really important[br]because this is another example 0:04:02.705,0:04:06.435 of how women are overlooked,[br]put aside, marginalized, 0:04:06.435,0:04:09.145 there's been very little[br]research done on us, 0:04:09.145,0:04:11.245 even though we volunteered lots of times. 0:04:11.245,0:04:12.365 JF: That's for sure. 0:04:12.365,0:04:14.045 (Laughter) 0:04:15.246,0:04:16.816 LT: No-- this is really exciting, 0:04:16.816,0:04:18.685 and you all will be interested in this. 0:04:18.685,0:04:21.186 The Harvard Medical School study has shown 0:04:21.186,0:04:25.434 that women who have[br]close female friendships 0:04:25.434,0:04:29.013 are less likely to develop impairments -- 0:04:29.013,0:04:31.241 physical impairments as they age, 0:04:31.241,0:04:36.661 and they are likely to seem to be living[br]much more vital, exciting -- 0:04:36.661,0:04:37.706 JF: and longer -- 0:04:37.706,0:04:39.153 LT: and joyful lives. 0:04:39.153,0:04:41.017 JF: We live five years longer than men. 0:04:41.017,0:04:43.428 LT: I think I'd trade the years for joy. 0:04:43.499,0:04:45.387 (Laughter) 0:04:47.003,0:04:49.528 LT: And, but the most important[br]part is they found -- 0:04:49.528,0:04:53.597 the results were so exciting[br]and so conclusive -- 0:04:53.597,0:04:55.096 the researchers found 0:04:55.096,0:05:00.799 that not having close female friends[br]is detrimental to your health, 0:05:00.799,0:05:03.214 as much as smoking or being overweight. 0:05:03.214,0:05:05.314 JF: Wow -- and there's[br]something else, too -- 0:05:05.314,0:05:06.975 LT: I've said my part, so ... 0:05:06.975,0:05:08.088 (Laughter) 0:05:08.088,0:05:11.891 JF: Okay, well listen to my part,[br]because there's an additional thing. 0:05:11.891,0:05:13.002 Because they only -- 0:05:13.002,0:05:14.219 for years, decades -- 0:05:14.219,0:05:18.216 they only researched men when they[br]were trying to understand stress, 0:05:18.216,0:05:22.749 only very recently have they researched[br]what happens to women when we're stressed, 0:05:22.749,0:05:27.107 and it turns out that[br]when we're stressed --women, 0:05:27.107,0:05:29.756 our bodies get flooded by oxytocin. 0:05:30.484,0:05:33.823 Which is a feel-good, calming, [br]stress reducing hormone. 0:05:33.823,0:05:37.933 Which also is increased[br]when we're with our women friends. 0:05:39.168,0:05:42.397 And I do think that's one reason[br]why we live longer. 0:05:42.397,0:05:45.296 And I feel so bad for men[br]because they don't have that. 0:05:45.296,0:05:49.371 Testosterone in men diminishes[br]the effects of oxytocin. 0:05:49.371,0:05:51.794 LT: Well when you and I[br]and Dolly made "9 to 5" ... 0:05:52.425,0:05:53.435 JF: Oh -- 0:05:53.435,0:05:55.711 LT: We laughed, we did,[br]we laughed so much, 0:05:55.711,0:05:58.390 we found we had so much in common[br]and we're so different. 0:05:58.390,0:06:00.083 Here she is like Hollywood royalty, 0:06:00.083,0:06:02.410 I'm like a tough kid from Detroit, 0:06:02.410,0:06:07.166 she's a Southern kid[br]from a poor town in Tennessee, 0:06:07.166,0:06:10.583 and we found we were so in sync as women, 0:06:10.583,0:06:11.794 and we must have-- 0:06:11.794,0:06:17.134 we laughed until we must have added[br]at least a decade onto our lifespans. 0:06:18.153,0:06:20.382 JF: I think -- we sure[br]crossed our legs a lot. 0:06:21.698,0:06:23.091 (Laughter) 0:06:23.091,0:06:25.312 If you know what I mean. 0:06:25.312,0:06:27.642 LT: I think we all know what you mean. 0:06:29.861,0:06:32.299 PM: You're adding decades[br]to our lives right now. 0:06:32.299,0:06:37.487 So among the books that Jane[br]sent us both to read on female friendship 0:06:37.487,0:06:41.179 was one by a woman we admire greatly,[br]Sister Joan Chittister, 0:06:41.179,0:06:43.340 who said about female friendship 0:06:43.340,0:06:47.571 that women friends[br]are not just a social act, 0:06:47.571,0:06:49.452 they're a spiritual act. 0:06:49.452,0:06:51.819 Do you think of your friends as spiritual? 0:06:51.819,0:06:54.346 Do they add something[br]spiritual to your life? 0:06:54.495,0:06:56.980 LT: Spiritual -- I absolutely think that. 0:06:58.419,0:07:01.289 Because --especially people[br]you've known a long time -- 0:07:01.289,0:07:02.728 people you've spent time with, 0:07:02.728,0:07:05.971 I can see the spiritual[br]essence inside them, 0:07:05.971,0:07:08.722 the tenderness, the vulnerability. 0:07:10.702,0:07:14.836 There's actually kind of a love,[br]an element of love in the relationship. 0:07:14.836,0:07:18.175 I just see deeply into your soul. 0:07:18.545,0:07:19.976 PM: Do you think that, Jane -- 0:07:19.976,0:07:21.610 LT: But I have special powers. 0:07:22.367,0:07:24.188 JF: Well there's all kinds of friends. 0:07:24.188,0:07:26.978 There's business friends,[br]and party friends, 0:07:26.978,0:07:28.363 I got a lot of those. 0:07:28.363,0:07:29.358 (Laughter) 0:07:30.365,0:07:35.551 But the oxytocin producing[br]friendships have ... 0:07:35.554,0:07:40.185 they feel spiritual because[br]it's a heart opening, right? 0:07:40.185,0:07:42.038 You know, we go deep. 0:07:43.169,0:07:47.820 And I find that I shed tears a lot[br]with my intimate friends. 0:07:49.299,0:07:54.793 Not because I'm sad but because[br]I'm so touched and inspired by them. 0:07:54.793,0:07:57.184 LT: And you know one of you's[br]going to go soon. 0:07:57.797,0:08:00.282 (Laughter) 0:08:03.045,0:08:07.015 PM: Well two of us are sitting here, Lily,[br]which one are you talking about? 0:08:07.015,0:08:08.315 (Laughter) 0:08:08.755,0:08:11.758 And I always think when women[br]talk about their friendships, 0:08:11.758,0:08:14.822 that men always look a little mystified. 0:08:14.822,0:08:17.350 What are the differences,[br]in your opinion, 0:08:17.350,0:08:20.369 between men friendships[br]and women friendships? 0:08:20.698,0:08:22.516 JF: There's a lot of difference, 0:08:22.516,0:08:25.380 and I think we have to have[br]a lot of empathy for men -- 0:08:25.380,0:08:26.971 (Laughter) 0:08:26.971,0:08:30.480 that they don't have what we have. 0:08:31.260,0:08:33.610 Which I think may be why they die sooner. 0:08:33.610,0:08:35.305 (Laughter) 0:08:35.683,0:08:38.139 I have a lot of compassion for men, 0:08:38.139,0:08:39.529 because women, 0:08:39.529,0:08:41.905 no kidding, we -- 0:08:41.905,0:08:47.429 women's relationships, our friendships[br]are full disclosure, we go deep. 0:08:47.429,0:08:49.405 They're revelatory. 0:08:50.076,0:08:53.773 We risk vulnerability --[br]this is something men don't do. 0:08:54.395,0:08:57.936 I mean how many times[br]have I asked you, "am I doing okay?" 0:08:57.936,0:09:00.390 "Did I really screw up there?" 0:09:00.390,0:09:02.030 PM: You're doing great. 0:09:02.030,0:09:03.030 (Laughter) 0:09:03.030,0:09:05.898 JF: But I mean,[br]we ask questions like that, 0:09:05.898,0:09:08.248 of our women friends, 0:09:08.248,0:09:09.348 and men don't. 0:09:09.348,0:09:13.004 You know people describe women's[br]relationships as face-to-face, 0:09:13.004,0:09:16.229 whereas men's friendships[br]are more side by side. 0:09:16.229,0:09:19.763 LT: I mean most of the time[br]men don't want to reveal their emotions, 0:09:19.763,0:09:21.668 they want to bury deeper feelings. 0:09:21.668,0:09:24.731 I mean that's the general,[br]conventional thought. 0:09:24.731,0:09:29.144 They would rather go off in their man cave[br]and watch a game or hit golf balls, 0:09:29.144,0:09:33.588 or talk about sports, or hunting,[br]or cars, or have sex. 0:09:33.588,0:09:37.159 I mean it's just the kind of --[br]it's a more manly behavior. 0:09:37.159,0:09:39.350 JF: You meant they talk about sex. 0:09:39.350,0:09:41.221 LT: I meant no they might have sex 0:09:41.221,0:09:43.605 if they could get somebody[br]in their man cave to -- 0:09:43.605,0:09:45.004 (Laughter) 0:09:46.622,0:09:49.964 JF: You know something, really[br]though, that I find very interesting -- 0:09:49.964,0:09:54.408 and again, psychologists didn't know this[br]until relatively recently -- 0:09:54.408,0:09:57.775 is that men are born every bit[br]as relational as women are. 0:09:58.332,0:10:01.872 If you look at films of newborn[br]baby boys and girls, 0:10:01.872,0:10:03.999 you'll see the baby boys[br]just like the girls, 0:10:03.999,0:10:06.412 gazing into their mother's eyes, 0:10:06.412,0:10:10.534 you know, needing that relational[br]exchange of energy. 0:10:10.534,0:10:15.774 When the mother looks away[br]they could see the dismay on the child, 0:10:15.774,0:10:17.350 even the boy would cry. 0:10:17.350,0:10:19.013 They need relationship. 0:10:19.013,0:10:23.012 So the question is why, as they[br]grow older, does that change? 0:10:23.012,0:10:25.363 And the answer is patriarchal culture, 0:10:25.363,0:10:28.198 which says to boys and young men, 0:10:28.198,0:10:32.940 that to be needing of relationship,[br]to be emotional with someone is girly. 0:10:33.579,0:10:39.465 That a real man doesn't ask[br]directions or express a need, 0:10:39.465,0:10:41.616 they don't go to doctors if they feel bad. 0:10:41.616,0:10:43.166 They don't ask for help. 0:10:43.166,0:10:44.841 There's a quote that I really like, 0:10:44.841,0:10:49.874 "Men fear that becoming we[br]will erase his I." 0:10:49.874,0:10:51.547 You know, his sense of self. 0:10:51.547,0:10:55.332 Whereas women's sense of self[br]has always been kind of porous. 0:10:56.101,0:10:59.847 But our we is our saving grace,[br] 0:10:59.847,0:11:02.267 it's what makes us strong. 0:11:02.267,0:11:04.031 It's not that we're better than men, 0:11:04.031,0:11:06.086 we just don't have[br]our masculinity to prove. 0:11:06.735,0:11:07.744 LT: And well -- 0:11:07.744,0:11:09.384 JF: That's a Gloria Steinem quote. 0:11:09.384,0:11:10.384 LT: No I know. 0:11:10.384,0:11:12.154 JF: So we can express our humanity -- 0:11:12.154,0:11:13.728 LT: I know who Gloria Steinem is. 0:11:13.728,0:11:16.299 JF: I know you know who she is, [br]but I think it's a -- 0:11:16.299,0:11:17.491 (Laughter) 0:11:17.491,0:11:19.592 No, but it's a great quote I think. 0:11:19.592,0:11:23.657 We're not better than men, we just[br]don't have our masculinity to prove. 0:11:23.657,0:11:25.086 And that's really important. 0:11:25.086,0:11:27.650 LT: But men are so[br]inculcated in the culture 0:11:27.650,0:11:30.886 to be comfortable in the patriarchy. 0:11:30.886,0:11:34.010 And we've got to make[br]something different happen. 0:11:34.010,0:11:37.792 JF: Women's friendships are like[br]a renewable source of power. 0:11:37.792,0:11:40.172 LT: Well that's what's exciting[br]about this subject. 0:11:40.172,0:11:41.713 It's because our friendships -- 0:11:41.713,0:11:46.733 female friendships[br]are just a hop to our sisterhood, 0:11:46.733,0:11:50.689 and sisterhood can be[br]a very powerful force, 0:11:50.689,0:11:51.715 to give the world -- 0:11:51.715,0:11:53.610 to make it what it should be -- 0:11:53.610,0:11:56.559 the things that humans desperately need. 0:11:56.987,0:11:58.823 PM: It is why we're talking about it, 0:11:58.823,0:12:00.663 because women's friendships are, 0:12:00.663,0:12:01.656 as you said, Jane, 0:12:01.656,0:12:03.381 a renewable source of power. 0:12:03.381,0:12:05.407 So how do we use that power? 0:12:06.120,0:12:09.341 JF: Well, women are the fastest growing[br]demographic in the world, 0:12:09.341,0:12:10.483 especially older women. 0:12:10.483,0:12:14.565 And if we harness our power,[br]we can change the world. 0:12:14.565,0:12:15.565 And guess what? 0:12:15.565,0:12:16.571 We need to. 0:12:16.571,0:12:18.503 (Applause) 0:12:18.503,0:12:19.769 And we need to do it soon. 0:12:19.769,0:12:22.145 And one of the things[br]that we need to do -- 0:12:22.145,0:12:23.808 and we can do it as women -- 0:12:23.808,0:12:26.901 for one thing, we kind of set[br]the consumer standards. 0:12:26.901,0:12:29.383 We need to consume less. 0:12:29.383,0:12:32.314 We in the Western world[br]need to consume less 0:12:32.314,0:12:35.505 and when we buy things, we need to[br]buy things that are made locally, 0:12:35.505,0:12:38.805 when we buy food, we need to buy food[br]that's grown locally. 0:12:38.805,0:12:41.941 We are the ones[br]that need to get off the grid. 0:12:41.941,0:12:47.247 We need to make ourselves[br]independent from fossil fuels. 0:12:47.822,0:12:49.886 And the fossil fuel companies -- 0:12:49.886,0:12:52.781 the Exxons and the Shell Oils [br]and those bad guys -- 0:12:52.781,0:12:54.087 cause they are -- 0:12:54.087,0:12:57.794 are going to tell us that we can't do it[br]without going back to the Stone Age. 0:12:57.794,0:13:00.764 You know, that the alternatives[br]just aren't quite there yet, 0:13:00.764,0:13:02.268 and that's not true. 0:13:02.268,0:13:04.270 There are countries in the world right now 0:13:04.270,0:13:07.662 that are living mostly on renewable[br]energy and doing just fine. 0:13:07.662,0:13:11.866 And they tell us that if we do[br]ween ourselves from fossil fuel 0:13:11.866,0:13:13.998 that we're going to be[br]back in the Stone Age, 0:13:13.998,0:13:18.090 and in fact, if we begin[br]to use renewable energy, 0:13:18.090,0:13:19.729 and not drill in the Artic, 0:13:19.729,0:13:20.728 and not drill -- 0:13:20.728,0:13:21.729 LT: Oh, boy. 0:13:21.729,0:13:23.860 JF: And not drill[br]in the Alberta Tar Sands -- 0:13:23.860,0:13:25.082 Right. 0:13:25.082,0:13:26.082 That we will be -- 0:13:26.082,0:13:29.721 there will be more democracy[br]and more jobs and more well-being, 0:13:29.721,0:13:32.028 and it's women that are[br]going to lead the way. 0:13:32.028,0:13:36.348 LT: Maybe we have the momentum[br]to start a Third-wave Feminist Movement 0:13:36.348,0:13:38.931 with our sisterhood around the world, 0:13:38.931,0:13:42.103 with women we don't see,[br]women we may never meet, 0:13:42.103,0:13:44.658 but we join together that way, 0:13:44.658,0:13:45.827 because -- 0:13:45.827,0:13:48.321 Aristotle said -- 0:13:48.321,0:13:49.324 most people-- 0:13:49.324,0:13:52.324 people would die[br]without male friendships. 0:13:52.324,0:13:55.694 And the operative word here was male. 0:13:55.694,0:13:58.624 Because they thought that friendships[br]should be between equals 0:13:58.624,0:14:00.812 and women were not considered equal -- 0:14:00.812,0:14:03.445 JF: They thought we didn't[br]have souls even, the Greeks. 0:14:03.445,0:14:06.928 LT: No, exactly. That shows you exactly[br]just how limited Aristotle was. 0:14:06.928,0:14:08.506 (Laughter) 0:14:09.615,0:14:11.626 And wait, no, here's the best part. 0:14:11.626,0:14:15.256 It's like you know, men do need women now. 0:14:15.256,0:14:17.528 The planet needs women. 0:14:17.528,0:14:19.974 The U.S. Constitution needs women. 0:14:19.974,0:14:22.682 We are not even in the Constitution. 0:14:22.682,0:14:25.116 JF: You're talking about[br]the Equal Rights Amendment. 0:14:25.116,0:14:26.108 LT: Right. 0:14:26.108,0:14:32.168 Justice Ginsberg said something like -- 0:14:32.168,0:14:35.773 every constitution that's been written[br]since the end of World War II 0:14:35.773,0:14:40.663 included a provision that made women[br]citizens of equal stature, 0:14:40.663,0:14:42.515 but ours does not. 0:14:42.515,0:14:44.377 So that would be a good place to start. 0:14:44.377,0:14:46.250 Very, very mild -- 0:14:46.250,0:14:47.253 (Laughter) 0:14:47.253,0:14:48.246 (Applause) 0:14:48.246,0:14:49.253 JF: Right. 0:14:50.503,0:14:53.116 And gender equality, it's like a tide, 0:14:53.116,0:14:55.186 it would lift all boats, not just women. 0:14:55.186,0:14:57.681 PM: Needing new role models[br]on how to do that. 0:14:57.681,0:14:59.124 How to be friends, 0:14:59.124,0:15:02.200 how to think about our power[br]in different ways, 0:15:02.200,0:15:03.225 as consumers, 0:15:03.225,0:15:05.062 as citizens of the world, 0:15:05.062,0:15:07.404 and this is what makes Jane and Lily 0:15:07.404,0:15:09.891 a role model of how[br]women can be friends -- 0:15:09.891,0:15:11.701 for a very long time, 0:15:11.701,0:15:14.176 and even if the occasionally disagree. 0:15:14.176,0:15:15.244 Thank you. 0:15:16.632,0:15:18.304 Thank you, both. 0:15:18.304,0:15:19.302 (Applause) 0:15:23.851,0:15:24.848 LT: Thank you. 0:15:24.848,0:15:25.848 JF: Thank you.