1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] Hands up, who's been watching Criminal 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 season 2, the cat and mouse drama 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that takes place entirely in police 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 interrogation rooms, with investigators 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 locked in a psychological battle of wits 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with suspects? 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Woman: Do you want to say it, or shall I? 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Dramatic music] 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Woman: We don't believe you. 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] The very nature of interrogations is 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 intrinsically dramatic, full of 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 deception, tension, and injustice. 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And while we love Criminal, 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Nothing hits quite like the real thing. 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So here from Netflix's catalogue of 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 true crime shows and documentaries, 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are some real life interrogations 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 we just can't stop thinking about. 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A warning before we dive in: 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This video explores some of the darkest aspects 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of these cases, including murder and sexual violence. 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Making a Murderer was one of the first 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 true crime series to really get people talking, 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and years later, it remains truly compelling 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and deeply shocking. 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The series focuses on Steven Avery, 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a Wisconsin man who was 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 convicted of sexual assault in 1985 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and spent 18 years in prison. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In 2003, DNA evidence secured his release, 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but Avery believed the police had a vendetta against him, 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the stakes got higher when he launched 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a lawsuit seeking damages. 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Kim Ducat] They weren't going to 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 hand that man $36 million. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 They weren't going to be made 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a laughingstock, that's for sure. 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] Two years later, photographer Teresa Hallback 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 disappeared. Her last assignment had been to 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 take pictures of a vehicle belonging to Avery, 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which put him firmly under suspicion. 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He was found guilty of murder, 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but as the series explores, 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 there are questions over much of the evidence 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that put him there. The most shocking moment, though, 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 involves Avery's nephew, Brendan Dessey, 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who was charged with being an accessory 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to the crime. With little evidence 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to support the state's case, 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 everything depended on a confession, 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they got it. 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Dassey was ultimately convicted, 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and handed a life sentence. 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In the three and a half hour interrogation 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 without his lawyer present, 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Dassey spilled everything they asked him to. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The trouble was, some of what he said didn't 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 line up with the case against Avery, 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and some of it barely made sense at all. 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In the interrogation, a mumbling Dassey seems 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 more worried about making his mother happy 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 than about how confessing might affect him. 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Interrogator] Did you cut her hair off? 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Dassey] Yeah. 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Interrogator] Where did that happen? 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Dassey] In the bedroom. 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Interrogator] What did you cut the hair off with? 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Dassey] The knife. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Interrogator] The knife you guys found in the garage? 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That doesn't make sense, it's impossible. 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You took her out to the garage and that's 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when you got the knife. 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] In 2016, a judge overturned 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Dassey's conviction on the grounds 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that the confession was coerced. 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But legal wrangling means he remains 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in prison to this day. 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 True crime show, The Confession Tapes, 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is all about miscarriages of justice, 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and how police have used interrogations 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to convict the innocent. 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It looks at several cases across the series. 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But one of the most haunting is that 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of Wesley Meyers. Meyers didn't just 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 confess once to the 1997 murder of his 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 girlfriend, Teresa Hort, he confessed three times 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and even made a public apology to the family. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Meyers was duly found guilty. 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The only problem? Confession aside, 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the evidence didn't really seem to point to him 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 being the one who committed the crime. 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And while the police were pursuing him, 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 they were ignoring plausible leads on another 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 suspect. But it's when you watch the 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 interrogation itself that alarm 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 bells really start to go off. 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Over many hours of questioning, 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the police railroad a compliant Meyers 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 into believing he's got no choice 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 other than to cooperate with them 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the story they've constructed, 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even telling him they have physical evidence 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 against him that proved to be nonexistent. 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Police] We both know Wesley, and let's 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 be honest with each other, 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the people that generally get you the 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 most pissed off in all the world 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 are the people you love. 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] All this was being secretly 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 recorded, so Meyers didn't know 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 his words could be used against him. 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In 2012, a judge ruled that Meyers' 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 constitutional rights had been violated 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and ordered a retrial. He pled guilty 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to a lesser charge and was 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 released based on time already served. 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Meyers remains bitter about the legal process. 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Meyers] They have hardened me. 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] Henry Lee Lucas was America's most 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 prolific and notorious serial killer. 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A drifter, with no home territory, 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 he claimed responsibility for 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 over 600 murders, starting with his own 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mother, although the number 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 eventually settled around a more believable 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 200. Unlike most known serial killers, 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 he had no established MO. 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He said once that he used anything but poison 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on his victims. How did police 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 catch this slippery shapeshifting 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 operator? Because he confessed, 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and confessed, 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and confessed, and confessed. 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Lucas] Well after that I cut her 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 up into little pieces. 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] After Lucas was 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 arrested in 1983 on suspicion 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of committing a double murder, 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 he began claiming responsibility for more and more crimes. 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Police came from all over the country 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to clear up old cases by pinning them on Lucas. 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But in exchange for these confessions, 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Lucas was receiving special priveleges, 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 like cigarettes and milkshakes. 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He was also getting attention from law 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 enforcement, praise from the police 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 whose intrays he was helping to empty, 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and a feeling of purpose for the 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 first time in a life that had been 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 chaotic and cruel. 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Lucas] I've tried to show law enforcement, 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I've tried to teach 'em. 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] He had basically become a 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 celebrity, and every confession 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 only helped to grow his fame 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and importance. 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In this series, The Confession Killer, 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you can see just how unreliable this process was. 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It's not just one interrogation that stands 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so much as the sheer mass of them, 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which all show a cheerful Lucas 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 enjoying his chats with investigators. 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Did he commit any of the crimes 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 attributed to him? Later in life, 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 after his wild claims had come apart 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 under scrutiny, he was telling a different story. 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Lucas] My mother, back in 1960, 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that is the only murder I've ever committed, 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I'm not positive I committed that. 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 [Narrator] The kind of 'ah-ha!' moments 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that feature in fictional interrogations 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 rarely happen in real life, but sometimes, 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 real life gets close. Before 2012, 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Steubenville, Ohio, was a normal small town 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with a typical American passion for 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 its high school football team. 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 After 2012, the word Steubenville meant 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 something very different. It became a byword 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for toxic masculinity and victim blaming 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 after a harrowing rape case became 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a source of international outrage. 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Documentary Roll, Red Roll, 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 tells the story of the investigation, the prosecution, 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the public reaction, and shines a light on the 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 misogyny and entitlement that contributed 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to the crime. At a party that August,