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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] Hands up, who's been watching Criminal
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,season 2, the cat and mouse drama
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that takes place entirely in police
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interrogation rooms, with investigators
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,locked in a psychological battle of wits
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with suspects?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Woman: Do you want to say it, or shall I?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dramatic music]
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Woman: We don't believe you.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] The very nature of \Ninterrogations is
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intrinsically dramatic, full of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deception, tension, and injustice.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And while we love Criminal,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing hits quite like the real thing.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here from Netflix's catalogue of
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true crime shows and documentaries,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are some real life interrogations
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we just can't stop thinking about.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A warning before we dive in:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This video explores some of the\Ndarkest aspects
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these cases, including murder\Nand sexual violence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Making a Murderer was one of the first
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,true crime series to really \Nget people talking,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and years later, it remains \Ntruly compelling
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and deeply shocking.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The series focuses on Steven Avery,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Wisconsin man who was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,convicted of sexual assault in 1985
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and spent 18 years in prison.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2003, DNA evidence secured his release,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but Avery believed the police had a vendetta against him,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the stakes got higher when he launched
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lawsuit seeking damages.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Kim Ducat] They weren't going to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hand that man $36 million.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They weren't going to be made
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a laughingstock, that's for sure.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] Two years later, photographer \NTeresa Hallback
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappeared. Her last assignment \Nhad been to
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take pictures of a vehicle belonging to Avery,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which put him firmly under suspicion.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was found guilty of murder,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but as the series explores,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are questions over much of the evidence
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that put him there. The most \Nshocking moment, though,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involves Avery's nephew, Brendan Dessey,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was charged with being an accessory
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the crime. With little evidence
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support the state's case,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything depended on a confession,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they got it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dassey was ultimately convicted,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and handed a life sentence.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the three and a half hour interrogation
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without his lawyer present,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dassey spilled everything they asked him to.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The trouble was, some of what he said didn't
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,line up with the case against Avery,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and some of it barely made sense at all.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the interrogation, a mumbling Dassey seems
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more worried about making his mother happy
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than about how confessing might affect him.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interrogator] Did you cut her hair off?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dassey] Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interrogator] Where did that happen?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dassey] In the bedroom.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interrogator] What did you cut the hair off with?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dassey] The knife.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interrogator] The knife you guys found in the garage?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That doesn't make sense, it's impossible.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You took her out to the garage and that's
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you got the knife.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] In 2016, a judge overturned
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dassey's conviction on the grounds
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the confession was coerced.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But legal wrangling means he remains
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in prison to this day.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,True crime show, The Confession Tapes,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is all about miscarriages of justice,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how police have used interrogations
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to convict the innocent.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks at several cases across the series.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But one of the most haunting is that
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Wesley Meyers. Meyers didn't just
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confess once to the 1997 murder of his
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,girlfriend, Teresa Hort, he confessed three times
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even made a public apology to the family.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meyers was duly found guilty.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only problem? Confession aside,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the evidence didn't really seem to point to him
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being the one who committed the crime.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And while the police were pursuing him,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were ignoring plausible leads on another
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suspect. But it's when you watch the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interrogation itself that alarm
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bells really start to go off.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Over many hours of questioning,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the police railroad a compliant Meyers
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into believing he's got no choice
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,other than to cooperate with them
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the story they've constructed,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even telling him they have physical evidence
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against him that proved to be nonexistent.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Police] We both know Wesley, and let's
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be honest with each other,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people that generally get you the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most pissed off in all the world
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the people you love.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] All this was being secretly
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recorded, so Meyers didn't know
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his words could be used against him.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2012, a judge ruled that Meyers'
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constitutional rights had been violated
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ordered a retrial. He pled guilty
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a lesser charge and was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,released based on time already served.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meyers remains bitter about the legal process.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Meyers] They have hardened me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] Henry Lee Lucas was America's most
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prolific and notorious serial killer.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A drifter, with no home territory,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he claimed responsibility for
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 600 murders, starting with his own
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mother, although the number
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eventually settled around a more believable
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,200. Unlike most known serial killers,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had no established MO.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said once that he used anything but poison
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on his victims. How did police
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,catch this slippery shapeshifting
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,operator? Because he confessed,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and confessed,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and confessed, and confessed.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Lucas] Well after that I cut her
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up into little pieces.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] After Lucas was
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arrested in 1983 on suspicion
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of committing a double murder,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he began claiming responsibility for more and more crimes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Police came from all over the country
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to clear up old cases by pinning them on Lucas.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in exchange for these confessions,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lucas was receiving special priveleges,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like cigarettes and milkshakes.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was also getting attention from law
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enforcement, praise from the police
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose intrays he was helping to empty,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a feeling of purpose for the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first time in a life that had been
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chaotic and cruel.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Lucas] I've tried to show law enforcement,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've tried to teach 'em.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] He had basically become a
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,celebrity, and every confession
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only helped to grow his fame
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and importance.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this series, The Confession Killer,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can see just how unreliable this process was.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just one interrogation that stands
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much as the sheer mass of them,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which all show a cheerful Lucas
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enjoying his chats with investigators.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did he commit any of the crimes
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attributed to him? Later in life,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after his wild claims had come apart
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under scrutiny, he was telling a different story.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Lucas] My mother, back in 1960,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is the only murder I've ever committed,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not positive I committed that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Narrator] The kind of 'ah-ha!' moments
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that feature in fictional interrogations
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rarely happen in real life, but sometimes,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real life gets close. Before 2012,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Steubenville, Ohio, was a normal small town
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a typical American passion for
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,its high school football team.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After 2012, the word Steubenville meant
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something very different. It became a byword
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for toxic masculinity and victim blaming
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after a harrowing rape case became
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a source of international outrage.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Documentary Roll, Red Roll,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tells the story of the investigation, the prosecution,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the public reaction, and shines a light on the
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,misogyny and entitlement that contributed
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the crime. At a party that August,