WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] Hands up, who's been watching Criminal 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 season 2, the cat and mouse drama 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that takes place entirely in police 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 interrogation rooms, with investigators 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 locked in a psychological battle of wits 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with suspects? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Woman: Do you want to say it, or shall I? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Dramatic music] 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Woman: We don't believe you. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] The very nature of interrogations is 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 intrinsically dramatic, full of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 deception, tension, and injustice. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And while we love Criminal, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Nothing hits quite like the real thing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So here from Netflix's catalogue of 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 true crime shows and documentaries, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 are some real life interrogations 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 we just can't stop thinking about. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A warning before we dive in: 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 This video explores some of the darkest aspects 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of these cases, including murder and sexual violence. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Making a Murderer was one of the first 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 true crime series to really get people talking, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and years later, it remains truly compelling 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and deeply shocking. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The series focuses on Steven Avery, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a Wisconsin man who was 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 convicted of sexual assault in 1985 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and spent 18 years in prison. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In 2003, DNA evidence secured his release, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but Avery believed the police had a vendetta against him, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the stakes got higher when he launched 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a lawsuit seeking damages. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Kim Ducat] They weren't going to 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 hand that man $36 million. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 They weren't going to be made 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a laughingstock, that's for sure. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] Two years later, photographer Teresa Hallback 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 disappeared. Her last assignment had been to 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 take pictures of a vehicle belonging to Avery, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which put him firmly under suspicion. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He was found guilty of murder, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but as the series explores, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 there are questions over much of the evidence 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that put him there. The most shocking moment, though, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 involves Avery's nephew, Brendan Dessey, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 who was charged with being an accessory 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the crime. With little evidence 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to support the state's case, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 everything depended on a confession, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and they got it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Dassey was ultimately convicted, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and handed a life sentence. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In the three and a half hour interrogation 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 without his lawyer present, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Dassey spilled everything they asked him to. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The trouble was, some of what he said didn't 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 line up with the case against Avery, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and some of it barely made sense at all. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In the interrogation, a mumbling Dassey seems 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 more worried about making his mother happy 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 than about how confessing might affect him. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Interrogator] Did you cut her hair off? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Dassey] Yeah. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Interrogator] Where did that happen? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Dassey] In the bedroom. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Interrogator] What did you cut the hair off with? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Dassey] The knife. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Interrogator] The knife you guys found in the garage? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 That doesn't make sense, it's impossible. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You took her out to the garage and that's 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when you got the knife. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] In 2016, a judge overturned 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Dassey's conviction on the grounds 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that the confession was coerced. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But legal wrangling means he remains 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in prison to this day. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 True crime show, The Confession Tapes, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is all about miscarriages of justice, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and how police have used interrogations 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to convict the innocent. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It looks at several cases across the series. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But one of the most haunting is that 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of Wesley Meyers. Meyers didn't just 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 confess once to the 1997 murder of his 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 girlfriend, Teresa Hort, he confessed three times 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and even made a public apology to the family. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Meyers was duly found guilty. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The only problem? Confession aside, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the evidence didn't really seem to point to him 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 being the one who committed the crime. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And while the police were pursuing him, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 they were ignoring plausible leads on another 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 suspect. But it's when you watch the 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 interrogation itself that alarm 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 bells really start to go off. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Over many hours of questioning, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the police railroad a compliant Meyers 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 into believing he's got no choice 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 other than to cooperate with them 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the story they've constructed, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 even telling him they have physical evidence 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 against him that proved to be nonexistent. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Police] We both know Wesley, and let's 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 be honest with each other, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the people that generally get you the 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 most pissed off in all the world 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 are the people you love. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] All this was being secretly 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 recorded, so Meyers didn't know 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 his words could be used against him. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In 2012, a judge ruled that Meyers' 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 constitutional rights had been violated 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and ordered a retrial. He pled guilty 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to a lesser charge and was 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 released based on time already served. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Meyers remains bitter about the legal process. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Meyers] They have hardened me. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] Henry Lee Lucas was America's most 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 prolific and notorious serial killer. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A drifter, with no home territory, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 he claimed responsibility for 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 over 600 murders, starting with his own 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 mother, although the number 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 eventually settled around a more believable 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 200. Unlike most known serial killers, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 he had no established MO. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He said once that he used anything but poison 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 on his victims. How did police 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 catch this slippery shapeshifting 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 operator? Because he confessed, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and confessed, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and confessed, and confessed. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Lucas] Well after that I cut her 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 up into little pieces. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] After Lucas was 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 arrested in 1983 on suspicion 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 of committing a double murder, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 he began claiming responsibility for more and more crimes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Police came from all over the country 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to clear up old cases by pinning them on Lucas. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But in exchange for these confessions, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Lucas was receiving special priveleges, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 like cigarettes and milkshakes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 He was also getting attention from law 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 enforcement, praise from the police 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 whose intrays he was helping to empty, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and a feeling of purpose for the 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 first time in a life that had been 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 chaotic and cruel. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Lucas] I've tried to show law enforcement, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I've tried to teach 'em. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] He had basically become a 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 celebrity, and every confession 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 only helped to grow his fame 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and importance. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In this series, The Confession Killer, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you can see just how unreliable this process was. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It's not just one interrogation that stands 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 so much as the sheer mass of them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which all show a cheerful Lucas 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 enjoying his chats with investigators. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Did he commit any of the crimes 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 attributed to him? Later in life, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 after his wild claims had come apart 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 under scrutiny, he was telling a different story. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Lucas] My mother, back in 1960, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that is the only murder I've ever committed, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I'm not positive I committed that. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 [Narrator] The kind of 'ah-ha!' moments 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that feature in fictional interrogations 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 rarely happen in real life, but sometimes, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 real life gets close. Before 2012, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Steubenville, Ohio, was a normal small town 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with a typical American passion for 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 its high school football team. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 After 2012, the word Steubenville meant 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 something very different. It became a byword 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for toxic masculinity and victim blaming 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 after a harrowing rape case became 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a source of international outrage. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Documentary Roll, Red Roll, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 tells the story of the investigation, the prosecution, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the public reaction, and shines a light on the 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 misogyny and entitlement that contributed 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the crime. At a party that August,