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[Narrator] Hands up, who's been 
watching <i>Criminal</i>

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season two, the cat and mouse drama

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that takes place entirely in police

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interrogation rooms with investigators

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locked in a psychological battle of wits

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with suspects?

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[Woman] Do you want to say it, or shall I?

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[Dramatic music]

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[Woman] We don't believe you.

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[Narrator] The very nature of 
interrogations is

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intrinsically dramatic, full of

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deception, tension, and injustice.

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And while we love <i>Criminal</i>,

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nothing hits quite like the real thing.

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So here from Netflix's catalogue of

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true crime shows and documentaries

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are some real life interrogations

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we just can't stop thinking about.

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A warning before we dive in:

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This video explores some of the
darkest aspects

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of these cases, including murder
and sexual violence.

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<i>Making a Murderer</i> was one of the first

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true crime series to really 
get people talking,

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and years later, it remains 
truly compelling

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and deeply shocking.

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The series focuses on Steven Avery,

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a Wisconsin man who was

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convicted of sexual assault in 1985

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and spent 18 years in prison.

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In 2003, DNA evidence secured his release,

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but Avery believed the police had 
a vendetta against him,

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and the stakes got higher when he launched

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a lawsuit seeking damages.

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[Kim Ducat] They weren't going to

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hand that man $36 million.

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They weren't going to be made

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a laughingstock, that's for sure.

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[Narrator] Two years later, photographer 
Teresa Halbach

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disappeared. Her last assignment 
had been to

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take pictures of a vehicle 
belonging to Avery,

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which put him firmly under suspicion.

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He was found guilty of murder,

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but as the series explores,

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there are questions over 
much of the evidence

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that put him there. The most 
shocking moment, though,

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involves Avery's nephew, Brendan Dassey,

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who was charged with being an accessory

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to the crime. With little evidence

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to support the state's case,

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everything depended on a confession,

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and they got it.

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Dassey was ultimately convicted

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and handed a life sentence.

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In the three and a half hour interrogation

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without his lawyer present,

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Dassey spilled everything 
they asked him to.

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The trouble was, some of what
he said didn't

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line up with the case against Avery,

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and some of it barely made sense at all.

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In the interrogation, a mumbling 
Dassey seems

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more worried about making his mother happy

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than about how confessing 
might affect him.

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[Interrogator] Did you cut her hair off?

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[Dassey] Yeah.

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[Interrogator] Where did that happen?

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[Dassey] In the bedroom.

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[Interrogator] What did you cut the 
hair off with?

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[Dassey] The knife.

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[Interrogator] The knife you guys found 
in the garage?

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That doesn't make sense, it's impossible.

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You took her out to the garage and that's

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when you got the knife.

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[Narrator] In 2016, a judge overturned

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Dassey's conviction on the grounds

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that the confession had been coerced.

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But legal wrangling means he remains

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in prison to this day.

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True crime show, <i>The Confession Tapes</i>,

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is all about miscarriages of justice,

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and how police have used interrogations

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to convict the innocent.

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It looks at several cases 
across the series,

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but one of the most haunting is that

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of Wesley Meyers. Meyers didn't just

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confess once to the 1997 murder of his

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girlfriend, Teresa Haught, he 
confessed three times

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and even made a public apology 
to her family.

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[Meyers] I want to apologize to the family

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for what I've done.

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[Narrator] Meyers was duly found guilty.

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The only problem? Confession aside,

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the evidence really didn't seem to 
point to him

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being the one who committed the crime.

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And while the police were pursuing him,

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they were ignoring plausible
leads on another

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suspect. But it's when you watch the

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interrogation itself that alarm

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bells really start to go off.

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Over many hours of questioning,

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the police railroad a compliant Meyers

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into believing he's got no choice

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other than to cooperate with them

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and the story they've constructed,

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even telling him they have 
physical evidence

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against him that proved to be nonexistent.

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[Police] We both know, Wesley, 
and let's

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be honest with each other,

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the people that generally get you the

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most pissed off in all the world

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are the people you love.

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[Narrator] All this was being secretly

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recorded, so Meyers didn't know

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his words could be used against him.

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In 2012, a judge ruled that Meyers'

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constitutional rights had been violated

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and ordered a retrial. He pled guilty

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to a lesser charge and was

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released based on time already served.

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Meyers remains bitter about the 
legal process.

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[Meyers] They have hardened me.

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[Narrator] Henry Lee Lucas was 
America's most

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prolific and notorious serial killer.

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A drifter, with no home territory,

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he claimed responsibility for

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over 600 murders, starting with his own

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mother, although the number

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eventually settled around a 
more believable

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200. Unlike most known serial killers,

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he had no established MO.

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He said once that he used 
anything but poison

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on his victims. How did police

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catch this slippery shapeshifting

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operator? Because he confessed,

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and confessed,

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and confessed, and confessed.

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[Lucas] Well after that I cut her

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up into little pieces.

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[Narrator] After Lucas was

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arrested in 1983 on suspicion

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of committing a double murder,

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he began claiming responsibility for 
more and more crimes.

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Police came from all over the country

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to clear up old cases by pinning 
them on Lucas.

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But in exchange for these confessions,

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Lucas was receiving special privileges,

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like cigarettes and milkshakes.

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He was also getting attention from law

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enforcement, praise from the police

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whose intrays he was helping to empty,

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and a feeling of purpose for the

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first time in a life that had been

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chaotic and cruel.

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[Lucas] I've tried to show law 
enforcement,

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I've tried to teach 'em.

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[Narrator] He had basically become a

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celebrity, and every confession

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only helped to grow his fame

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and importance.

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In this series, <i>The Confession Killer</i>,

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you can see just how unreliable 
this process was.

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It's not just one interrogation 
that stands

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so much as the sheer mass of them,

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which all show a cheerful Lucas

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enjoying his chats with investigators.

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Did he commit any of the crimes

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attributed to him? Later in life,

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after his wilder claims had come apart

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under scrutiny, he was telling a 
different story.

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[Lucas] My mother, back in 1960,

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that is the only murder I've ever 
committed,

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and I'm not positive I committed that.

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[Narrator] The kind of 'ah-ha!' moments

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that feature in fictional interrogations

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rarely happen in real life, but sometimes,

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real life gets close. Before 2012,

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Steubenville, Ohio, was a normal 
small town

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with a typical American passion for

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its high school football team.

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After 2012, the word Steubenville meant

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something very different. It 
became a byword

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for toxic masculinity and victim blaming

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after a harrowing rape case became

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a source of international outrage.

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Documentary <i>Roll, Red Roll</i>,

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tells the story of the investigation, 
the prosecution,

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and the public reaction, and 
shines a light on the

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misogyny and entitlement that contributed

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to the crime. At a party that August,

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a teenage girl, she's not named because of

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laws to protect victims of
sexual violence,

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was sexually assaulted by 
multiple male students,

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many with connection to the football team.

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There wasn't any question that she
could have consented.

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Witnesses confirmed that she was so drunk

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that she had to be propped up,

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and her assailants had bragged

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about what they did to her in 
graphic terms

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on social media. But for 
investigators, part

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of the problem was establishing

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exactly who had played what 
part in the crime.

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Over a series of interrogations,

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they pieced the night together,

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and in one dramatic scene,

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they finally get one boy to describe how

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a gang rape had been planned.

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[Investigator] You said you're a 
football player.

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Fucking man up.

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[Boy] I think they were talking about

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training her. I...

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[Investigator] Why do you believe they 
were talking

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about training her? What makes

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you believe that?

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[Boy] Because that's what 
they were talking

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about earlier in the night, like

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when we were first leaving.

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[Investigator] They were talking 
about this

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in the car?

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[Boy] Yeah, like, going to Jake's house.

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[Narrator] As a result of the 
investigation,

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two high school football players,

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Ma'lik Richmond and Trent Mays,

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were convicted of the rape of a minor,

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while several adults, including a school

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superintendent, were indicted 
for obstructing

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the course of justice. You can watch

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all of these incredible interrogations

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and <i>Criminal</i> season two on Netflix now.

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