1 00:00:00,845 --> 00:00:02,350 Thank you very much. 2 00:00:02,374 --> 00:00:06,373 Well, I would like to start with testicles. 3 00:00:06,683 --> 00:00:08,293 (Laughter) 4 00:00:09,198 --> 00:00:11,952 Men who sleep five hours a night 5 00:00:11,976 --> 00:00:17,229 have significantly smaller testicles than those who sleep seven hours or more. 6 00:00:17,253 --> 00:00:20,054 (Laughter) 7 00:00:20,078 --> 00:00:25,157 In addition, men who routinely sleep just four to five hours a night 8 00:00:25,181 --> 00:00:27,697 will have a level of testosterone 9 00:00:27,721 --> 00:00:31,054 which is that of someone 10 years their senior. 10 00:00:33,083 --> 00:00:36,844 So a lack of sleep will age a man by a decade 11 00:00:36,868 --> 00:00:39,653 in terms of that critical aspect of wellness. 12 00:00:41,939 --> 00:00:46,363 And we see equivalent impairments in female reproductive health 13 00:00:46,387 --> 00:00:47,804 caused by a lack of sleep. 14 00:00:51,086 --> 00:00:53,737 This is the best news that I have for you today. 15 00:00:53,761 --> 00:00:56,437 (Laughter) 16 00:00:56,461 --> 00:00:58,838 From this point, it may only get worse. 17 00:00:58,862 --> 00:01:01,642 Not only will I tell you about the wonderfully good things 18 00:01:01,666 --> 00:01:03,501 that happen when you get sleep, 19 00:01:03,525 --> 00:01:08,006 but the alarmingly bad things that happen when you don't get enough, 20 00:01:08,030 --> 00:01:10,561 both for your brain and for your body. 21 00:01:11,394 --> 00:01:13,808 Let me start with the brain 22 00:01:13,832 --> 00:01:16,837 and the functions of learning and memory, 23 00:01:16,861 --> 00:01:20,130 because what we've discovered over the past 10 or so years 24 00:01:20,154 --> 00:01:23,051 is that you need sleep after learning 25 00:01:23,075 --> 00:01:26,362 to essentially hit the save button on those new memories 26 00:01:26,386 --> 00:01:27,686 so that you don't forget. 27 00:01:28,948 --> 00:01:34,464 But recently, we discovered that you also need sleep before learning, 28 00:01:34,488 --> 00:01:37,559 and now to actually prepare your brain, 29 00:01:37,583 --> 00:01:39,639 almost like a dry sponge 30 00:01:39,663 --> 00:01:42,106 ready to initially soak up new information. 31 00:01:43,167 --> 00:01:46,279 And without sleep, the memory circuits of the brain 32 00:01:46,303 --> 00:01:49,074 essentially become waterlogged, as it were, 33 00:01:49,098 --> 00:01:51,255 and you can't absorb new memories. 34 00:01:52,179 --> 00:01:54,068 So let me show you the data. 35 00:01:54,092 --> 00:01:58,345 Here in this study, we decided to test the hypothesis 36 00:01:58,369 --> 00:02:00,917 that pulling the all-nighter was a good idea. 37 00:02:02,244 --> 00:02:04,603 So we took a group of individuals 38 00:02:04,627 --> 00:02:08,174 and we assigned them to one of two experimental groups: 39 00:02:08,198 --> 00:02:11,655 a sleep group and a sleep deprivation group. 40 00:02:11,679 --> 00:02:16,299 Now the sleep group, they're going to get a full eight hours of slumber, 41 00:02:16,323 --> 00:02:18,991 but the deprivation group, we're going to keep them awake 42 00:02:19,015 --> 00:02:21,165 in the laboratory, under full supervision. 43 00:02:21,658 --> 00:02:26,038 There's no naps or caffeine, by the way, so it's miserable for everyone involved. 44 00:02:26,586 --> 00:02:28,115 And then the next day, 45 00:02:28,139 --> 00:02:32,439 we're going to place those participants inside an MRI scanner 46 00:02:32,463 --> 00:02:36,249 and we're going to have them try and learn a whole list of new facts 47 00:02:36,273 --> 00:02:39,572 as we're taking snapshots of brain activity, 48 00:02:39,596 --> 00:02:41,575 and then we're going to test them 49 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:44,083 to see how effective that learning has been. 50 00:02:44,948 --> 00:02:47,884 And that's what you're looking at here on the vertical axis. 51 00:02:48,515 --> 00:02:51,195 And when you put those two groups head to head, 52 00:02:51,219 --> 00:02:56,258 what you find is a quite significant 40-percent deficit 53 00:02:56,282 --> 00:02:59,758 in the ability of the brain to make new memories without sleep. 54 00:03:01,044 --> 00:03:02,894 I think this should be concerning, 55 00:03:02,918 --> 00:03:05,140 considering what we know is happening to sleep 56 00:03:05,164 --> 00:03:07,583 in our education populations right now. 57 00:03:08,538 --> 00:03:10,357 In fact, to put that in context, 58 00:03:10,381 --> 00:03:13,878 it would be the difference in a child acing an exam 59 00:03:13,902 --> 00:03:16,802 versus failing it miserably -- 40 percent. 60 00:03:18,294 --> 00:03:22,490 And we've gone on to discover what goes wrong within your brain 61 00:03:22,514 --> 00:03:25,635 to produce these types of learning disabilities. 62 00:03:26,759 --> 00:03:28,333 And there's a structure that sits 63 00:03:28,357 --> 00:03:32,989 on the left and the right side of your brain, called the hippocampus. 64 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:34,798 And you can think of the hippocampus 65 00:03:34,822 --> 00:03:38,059 almost like the informational inbox of your brain. 66 00:03:38,634 --> 00:03:41,825 It's very good at receiving new memory files 67 00:03:41,849 --> 00:03:43,324 and then holding on to them. 68 00:03:44,931 --> 00:03:46,642 And when you look at this structure 69 00:03:46,666 --> 00:03:49,728 in those people who'd had a full night of sleep, 70 00:03:49,752 --> 00:03:53,277 we saw lots of healthy learning-related activity. 71 00:03:54,644 --> 00:03:57,603 Yet in those people who were sleep-deprived, 72 00:03:57,627 --> 00:04:01,253 we actually couldn't find any significant signal whatsoever. 73 00:04:02,732 --> 00:04:07,713 So it's almost as though sleep deprivation had shut down your memory inbox 74 00:04:07,737 --> 00:04:10,713 and any new incoming files, they were just being bounced. 75 00:04:11,898 --> 00:04:15,506 You couldn't effectively commit new experiences to memory. 76 00:04:18,062 --> 00:04:22,561 So that's the bad that can happen if I were to take sleep away from you, 77 00:04:22,585 --> 00:04:25,657 but let me just come back to that control group for a second. 78 00:04:26,444 --> 00:04:29,776 Do you remember those folks that got a full eight hours of sleep? 79 00:04:30,418 --> 00:04:32,894 Well, we can ask a very different question: 80 00:04:32,918 --> 00:04:36,522 what is it about the physiological quality of your sleep 81 00:04:36,546 --> 00:04:38,093 when you do get it 82 00:04:38,117 --> 00:04:41,929 that restores and enhances your memory and learning ability 83 00:04:41,953 --> 00:04:43,103 each and every day? 84 00:04:44,004 --> 00:04:46,986 And by placing electrodes all over the head, 85 00:04:47,010 --> 00:04:51,057 what we've discovered is that there are big powerful brainwaves 86 00:04:51,081 --> 00:04:54,700 that happen during the very deepest stages of sleep 87 00:04:54,724 --> 00:04:57,009 that have riding on top of them 88 00:04:57,033 --> 00:05:00,307 these spectacular bursts of electrical activity 89 00:05:00,331 --> 00:05:02,065 that we call sleep spindles. 90 00:05:03,066 --> 00:05:07,488 And it's the combined quality of these deep-sleep brainwaves 91 00:05:07,512 --> 00:05:11,973 that acts like a file-transfer mechanism at night, 92 00:05:11,997 --> 00:05:16,068 shifting memories from a short-term vulnerable reservoir 93 00:05:16,092 --> 00:05:20,434 to a more permanent long-term storage site within the brain, 94 00:05:20,458 --> 00:05:23,848 and therefore protecting them, making them safe. 95 00:05:25,467 --> 00:05:27,506 And it is important that we understand 96 00:05:27,530 --> 00:05:32,589 what during sleep actually transacts these memory benefits, 97 00:05:32,613 --> 00:05:36,747 because there are real medical and societal implications. 98 00:05:36,771 --> 00:05:38,788 And let me just tell you about one area 99 00:05:38,812 --> 00:05:42,248 that we've moved this work out into, clinically, 100 00:05:42,272 --> 00:05:45,485 which is the context of aging and dementia. 101 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:50,295 Because it's of course no secret that, as we get older, 102 00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:53,604 our learning and memory abilities begin to fade and decline. 103 00:05:55,051 --> 00:05:56,669 But what we've also discovered 104 00:05:56,693 --> 00:06:03,478 is that a physiological signature of aging is that your sleep gets worse, 105 00:06:03,502 --> 00:06:07,306 especially that deep quality of sleep that I was just discussing. 106 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:11,734 And only last year, we finally published evidence 107 00:06:11,758 --> 00:06:14,717 that these two things, they're not simply co-occurring, 108 00:06:14,741 --> 00:06:17,559 they are significantly interrelated. 109 00:06:18,837 --> 00:06:22,124 And it suggests that the disruption of deep sleep 110 00:06:22,148 --> 00:06:24,442 is an underappreciated factor 111 00:06:24,466 --> 00:06:28,379 that is contributing to cognitive decline or memory decline 112 00:06:28,403 --> 00:06:31,981 in aging, and most recently we've discovered, 113 00:06:32,005 --> 00:06:34,227 in Alzheimer's disease as well. 114 00:06:36,329 --> 00:06:40,068 Now, I know this is remarkably depressing news. 115 00:06:40,092 --> 00:06:42,395 It's in the mail. It's coming at you. 116 00:06:42,419 --> 00:06:44,704 But there's a potential silver lining here. 117 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,618 Unlikely many of the other factors that we know are associated with aging, 118 00:06:50,642 --> 00:06:54,301 for example changes in the physical structure of the brain, 119 00:06:54,325 --> 00:06:57,387 that's fiendishly difficult to treat, 120 00:06:57,411 --> 00:07:01,967 but that sleep is a missing piece in the explanatory puzzle 121 00:07:01,991 --> 00:07:04,586 of aging and Alzheimer's is exciting 122 00:07:04,610 --> 00:07:07,348 because we may be able to do something about it. 123 00:07:08,530 --> 00:07:12,461 And one way that we are approaching this at my sleep center 124 00:07:12,485 --> 00:07:15,493 is not by using sleeping pills, by the way. 125 00:07:15,517 --> 00:07:20,446 Unfortunately, they are blunt instruments that do not produce naturalistic sleep. 126 00:07:21,532 --> 00:07:24,779 Instead, we're actually developing a method based on this. 127 00:07:24,803 --> 00:07:28,018 It's called direct current brain stimulation. 128 00:07:28,042 --> 00:07:31,323 You insert a small amount of voltage into the brain, 129 00:07:31,347 --> 00:07:33,585 so small you typically don't feel it, 130 00:07:33,609 --> 00:07:35,501 but it has a measurable impact. 131 00:07:36,826 --> 00:07:43,167 Now if you apply this stimulation during sleep in young, healthy adults, 132 00:07:43,191 --> 00:07:47,906 as if you're sort of singing in time with those deep-sleep brainwaves, 133 00:07:47,930 --> 00:07:52,472 not only can you amplify the size of those deep-sleep brainwaves, 134 00:07:52,496 --> 00:07:57,040 but in doing so, we can almost double the amount of memory benefit 135 00:07:57,064 --> 00:07:59,098 that you get from sleep. 136 00:07:59,122 --> 00:08:01,937 The question now is whether we can translate 137 00:08:01,961 --> 00:08:06,262 the same affordable, potentially portable piece of technology 138 00:08:06,286 --> 00:08:09,167 into older adults and those with dementia. 139 00:08:10,726 --> 00:08:15,312 Can we restore back some healthy quality of deep sleep, 140 00:08:15,336 --> 00:08:19,955 and in doing so, can we salvage aspects of their learning 141 00:08:19,979 --> 00:08:21,463 and memory function? 142 00:08:21,487 --> 00:08:23,653 That is my real hope now. 143 00:08:24,378 --> 00:08:27,383 That's one of our moon shot goals, as it were. 144 00:08:29,335 --> 00:08:32,693 So that's an example of sleep for your brain, 145 00:08:32,717 --> 00:08:35,930 but sleep is just as essential for your body. 146 00:08:37,276 --> 00:08:40,951 We've already spoken about sleep loss and your reproductive system. 147 00:08:41,863 --> 00:08:46,725 Or I could tell you about sleep loss and your cardiovascular system, 148 00:08:46,749 --> 00:08:49,923 and that all it takes is one hour, 149 00:08:49,947 --> 00:08:55,455 because there is a global experiment performed on 1.6 billion people 150 00:08:55,479 --> 00:08:59,756 across 70 countries twice a year, 151 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:01,669 and it's called daylight saving time. 152 00:09:02,907 --> 00:09:06,365 Now, in the spring, when we lose one hour of sleep, 153 00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:12,008 we see a subsequent 24-percent increase in heart attacks that following day. 154 00:09:14,952 --> 00:09:18,127 In the autumn, when we gain an hour of sleep, 155 00:09:18,151 --> 00:09:22,019 we see a 21-percent reduction in heart attacks. 156 00:09:23,752 --> 00:09:25,432 Isn't that incredible? 157 00:09:26,929 --> 00:09:32,605 And you see exactly the same profile for car crashes, road traffic accidents, 158 00:09:32,629 --> 00:09:34,531 even suicide rates. 159 00:09:36,928 --> 00:09:39,833 But as a deeper dive, I want to focus on this: 160 00:09:39,857 --> 00:09:42,348 sleep loss and your immune system. 161 00:09:43,149 --> 00:09:47,991 And here, I'll introduce these delightful blue elements in the image. 162 00:09:48,015 --> 00:09:51,193 They are called natural killer cells, 163 00:09:51,217 --> 00:09:56,067 and you can think of natural killer cells almost like the secret service agents 164 00:09:56,091 --> 00:09:57,702 of your immune system. 165 00:09:57,726 --> 00:10:02,709 And they are very good at identifying dangerous, unwanted elements 166 00:10:02,733 --> 00:10:04,130 and eliminating them. 167 00:10:05,253 --> 00:10:09,197 In fact, what they're doing here is destroying a cancerous tumor mass. 168 00:10:10,586 --> 00:10:16,522 So what you wish for is a virile set of these immune assassins 169 00:10:16,546 --> 00:10:18,602 at all times, 170 00:10:18,626 --> 00:10:22,436 and tragically, that's what you don't have if you're not sleeping enough. 171 00:10:23,825 --> 00:10:25,469 So here in this experiment, 172 00:10:25,493 --> 00:10:29,322 you're not going to have your sleep deprived for an entire night, 173 00:10:29,346 --> 00:10:32,857 you're simply going to have your sleep restricted to four hours 174 00:10:32,881 --> 00:10:34,659 for one single night, 175 00:10:34,683 --> 00:10:37,684 and then we're going to look to see what's the percent reduction 176 00:10:37,708 --> 00:10:39,698 in immune cell activity that you suffer. 177 00:10:40,774 --> 00:10:43,603 And it's not small -- it's not 10 percent, 178 00:10:43,627 --> 00:10:45,630 it's not 20 percent. 179 00:10:45,654 --> 00:10:50,226 It was a 70-percent drop in natural killer cell activity. 180 00:10:51,786 --> 00:10:55,841 That's a concerning state of immune deficiency, 181 00:10:57,358 --> 00:11:00,175 and you can perhaps understand why we're now finding 182 00:11:00,199 --> 00:11:04,055 significant links between short sleep duration 183 00:11:04,079 --> 00:11:07,992 and your risk for the development of numerous forms of cancer. 184 00:11:09,892 --> 00:11:12,675 Currently, that list includes cancer of the bowel, 185 00:11:12,699 --> 00:11:15,961 cancer of the prostate, and cancer of the breast. 186 00:11:17,853 --> 00:11:23,209 In fact, the link between a lack of sleep and cancer is now so strong 187 00:11:23,233 --> 00:11:25,615 that the World Health Organization 188 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:29,829 has classified any form of nighttime shift work 189 00:11:29,853 --> 00:11:33,035 as a probable carcinogen, 190 00:11:33,059 --> 00:11:35,726 because of a disruption of your sleep-wake rhythms. 191 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:40,560 So you may have heard of that old maxim 192 00:11:40,584 --> 00:11:42,696 that you can sleep when you're dead. 193 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,790 Well, I'm being quite serious now -- 194 00:11:44,814 --> 00:11:47,425 it is mortally unwise advice. 195 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:53,412 We know this from epidemiological studies across millions of individuals. 196 00:11:53,436 --> 00:11:55,417 There's a simple truth: 197 00:11:55,441 --> 00:11:58,845 the shorter your sleep, the shorter your life. 198 00:11:58,869 --> 00:12:02,424 Short sleep predicts all cause mortality. 199 00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:09,109 And if increasing your risk for the development of cancer 200 00:12:09,133 --> 00:12:11,377 or even Alzheimer's disease 201 00:12:11,401 --> 00:12:15,577 were not sufficiently disquieting, 202 00:12:15,601 --> 00:12:19,299 we have since discovered that a lack of sleep will even erode 203 00:12:19,323 --> 00:12:23,396 the very fabric of biological life itself, 204 00:12:24,681 --> 00:12:26,673 your DNA genetic code. 205 00:12:28,038 --> 00:12:31,974 So here in this study, they took a group of healthy adults 206 00:12:31,998 --> 00:12:35,737 and they limited them to six hours of sleep a night 207 00:12:35,761 --> 00:12:37,412 for one week, 208 00:12:37,436 --> 00:12:41,233 and then they measured the change in their gene activity profile 209 00:12:41,257 --> 00:12:43,701 relative to when those same individuals 210 00:12:43,725 --> 00:12:46,272 were getting a full eight hours of sleep a night. 211 00:12:47,451 --> 00:12:49,267 And there were two critical findings. 212 00:12:50,204 --> 00:12:55,275 First, a sizable and significant 711 genes 213 00:12:55,299 --> 00:12:57,627 were distorted in their activity, 214 00:12:57,651 --> 00:12:59,094 caused by a lack of sleep. 215 00:12:59,923 --> 00:13:03,050 The second result was that about half of those genes 216 00:13:03,074 --> 00:13:05,517 were actually increased in their activity. 217 00:13:05,842 --> 00:13:07,771 The other half were decreased. 218 00:13:08,448 --> 00:13:11,729 Now those genes that were switched off by a lack of sleep 219 00:13:11,753 --> 00:13:15,242 were genes associated with your immune system, 220 00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:18,106 so once again, you can see that immune deficiency. 221 00:13:19,348 --> 00:13:22,421 In contrast, those genes that were actually upregulated 222 00:13:22,445 --> 00:13:24,817 or increased by way of a lack of sleep, 223 00:13:24,841 --> 00:13:28,739 were genes associated with the promotion of tumors, 224 00:13:28,763 --> 00:13:33,914 genes associated with long-term chronic inflammation within the body, 225 00:13:33,938 --> 00:13:36,740 and genes associated with stress, 226 00:13:36,764 --> 00:13:39,793 and, as a consequence, cardiovascular disease. 227 00:13:41,171 --> 00:13:44,831 There is simply no aspect of your wellness 228 00:13:44,855 --> 00:13:48,122 that can retreat at the sign of sleep deprivation 229 00:13:48,146 --> 00:13:49,960 and get away unscathed. 230 00:13:50,912 --> 00:13:53,920 It's rather like a broken water pipe in your home. 231 00:13:53,944 --> 00:13:57,587 Sleep loss will leak down into every nook and cranny 232 00:13:57,611 --> 00:13:59,997 of your physiology, 233 00:14:00,021 --> 00:14:03,926 even tampering with the very DNA nucleic alphabet 234 00:14:03,950 --> 00:14:06,790 that spells out your daily health narrative. 235 00:14:09,866 --> 00:14:12,549 And at this point, you may be thinking, 236 00:14:12,573 --> 00:14:15,105 "Oh my goodness, how do I start to get better sleep? 237 00:14:15,129 --> 00:14:17,374 What are you tips for good sleep?" 238 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,558 Well, beyond avoiding the damaging and harmful impact 239 00:14:22,582 --> 00:14:25,501 of alcohol and caffeine on sleep, 240 00:14:25,525 --> 00:14:27,962 and if you're struggling with sleep at night, 241 00:14:27,986 --> 00:14:30,167 avoiding naps during the day, 242 00:14:30,191 --> 00:14:32,334 I have two pieces of advice for you. 243 00:14:33,104 --> 00:14:35,918 The first is regularity. 244 00:14:35,942 --> 00:14:39,343 Go to bed at the same time, wake up at the same time, 245 00:14:39,367 --> 00:14:42,428 no matter whether it's the weekday or the weekend. 246 00:14:42,452 --> 00:14:45,197 Regularity is king, 247 00:14:45,221 --> 00:14:47,182 and it will anchor your sleep 248 00:14:47,206 --> 00:14:50,518 and improve the quantity and the quality of that sleep. 249 00:14:52,372 --> 00:14:55,054 The second is keep it cool. 250 00:14:56,088 --> 00:14:58,515 Your body needs to drop its core temperature 251 00:14:58,539 --> 00:15:02,752 by about two to three degrees Fahrenheit to initiate sleep 252 00:15:02,776 --> 00:15:04,856 and then to stay asleep, 253 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,372 and it's the reason you will always find it easier 254 00:15:07,396 --> 00:15:09,777 to fall asleep in a room that's too cold 255 00:15:09,801 --> 00:15:11,045 than too hot. 256 00:15:12,013 --> 00:15:15,529 So aim for a bedroom temperature of around 65 degrees, 257 00:15:15,553 --> 00:15:17,507 or about 18 degrees Celsius. 258 00:15:17,531 --> 00:15:20,298 That's going to be optimal for the sleep of most people. 259 00:15:22,446 --> 00:15:25,943 And then finally, in taking a step back, then, 260 00:15:25,967 --> 00:15:29,160 what is the mission-critical statement here? 261 00:15:30,771 --> 00:15:32,987 Well, I think it may be this: 262 00:15:33,011 --> 00:15:38,283 sleep, unfortunately, is not an optional lifestyle luxury. 263 00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:43,652 Sleep is a nonnegotiable biological necessity. 264 00:15:44,892 --> 00:15:48,483 It is your life-support system, 265 00:15:48,507 --> 00:15:53,141 and it is Mother Nature's best effort yet at immortality. 266 00:15:54,709 --> 00:15:59,225 And the decimation of sleep throughout industrialized nations 267 00:15:59,249 --> 00:16:04,466 is having a catastrophic impact on our health, our wellness, 268 00:16:04,490 --> 00:16:07,156 even the safety and the education of our children. 269 00:16:08,323 --> 00:16:11,339 It's a silent sleep loss epidemic, 270 00:16:11,363 --> 00:16:14,728 and it's fast becoming one of the greatest public health challenges 271 00:16:14,752 --> 00:16:17,474 that we face in the 21st century. 272 00:16:20,294 --> 00:16:25,377 I believe it is now time for us to reclaim our right 273 00:16:25,401 --> 00:16:26,872 to a full night of sleep, 274 00:16:28,012 --> 00:16:30,169 and without embarrassment 275 00:16:30,193 --> 00:16:33,592 or that unfortunate stigma of laziness. 276 00:16:34,638 --> 00:16:40,622 And in doing so, we can be reunited with the most powerful elixir of life, 277 00:16:42,038 --> 00:16:44,741 the Swiss Army knife of health, as it were. 278 00:16:46,667 --> 00:16:49,311 And with that soapbox rant over, 279 00:16:49,335 --> 00:16:51,430 I will simply say, good night, good luck, 280 00:16:51,454 --> 00:16:52,604 and above all ... 281 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:56,651 I do hope you sleep well. 282 00:16:56,675 --> 00:16:58,033 Thank you very much indeed. 283 00:16:58,057 --> 00:17:02,588 (Applause) 284 00:17:02,612 --> 00:17:03,770 Thank you. 285 00:17:03,794 --> 00:17:06,636 (Applause) 286 00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:08,203 Thank you so much. 287 00:17:08,227 --> 00:17:10,970 David Biello: No, no, no. Stay there for a second. 288 00:17:10,994 --> 00:17:13,546 Good job not running away, though. I appreciate that. 289 00:17:13,570 --> 00:17:14,814 So that was terrifying. 290 00:17:14,838 --> 00:17:17,934 Matt Walker: You're welcome. DB: Yes, thank you, thank you. 291 00:17:18,314 --> 00:17:23,490 Since we can't catch up on sleep, what are we supposed to do? 292 00:17:23,514 --> 00:17:27,046 What do we do when we're, like, tossing and turning in bed late at night 293 00:17:27,070 --> 00:17:30,132 or doing shift work or whatever else? 294 00:17:30,156 --> 00:17:32,497 MW: So you're right, we can't catch up on sleep. 295 00:17:32,521 --> 00:17:33,846 Sleep is not like the bank. 296 00:17:33,870 --> 00:17:35,910 You can't accumulate a debt 297 00:17:35,934 --> 00:17:38,626 and then hope to pay it off at a later point in time. 298 00:17:38,650 --> 00:17:41,794 I should also note the reason that it's so catastrophic 299 00:17:41,818 --> 00:17:44,872 and that our health deteriorates so quickly, 300 00:17:44,896 --> 00:17:47,633 first, it's because human beings are the only species 301 00:17:47,657 --> 00:17:50,135 that deliberately deprive themselves of sleep 302 00:17:50,159 --> 00:17:52,548 for no apparent reason. 303 00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:53,724 DB: Because we're smart. 304 00:17:53,748 --> 00:17:58,573 MW: And I make that point because it means that Mother Nature, 305 00:17:58,597 --> 00:18:00,287 throughout the course of evolution, 306 00:18:00,311 --> 00:18:04,614 has never had to face the challenge of this thing called sleep deprivation. 307 00:18:05,295 --> 00:18:08,707 So she's never developed a safety net, 308 00:18:08,731 --> 00:18:10,859 and that's why when you undersleep, 309 00:18:10,883 --> 00:18:15,217 things just sort of implode so quickly, both within the brain and the body. 310 00:18:15,241 --> 00:18:18,014 So you just have to prioritize. 311 00:18:18,038 --> 00:18:21,340 DB: OK, but tossing and turning in bed, 312 00:18:21,364 --> 00:18:22,775 what do I do? 313 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:27,418 MW: So if you are staying in bed awake for too long, 314 00:18:27,442 --> 00:18:30,695 you should get out of bed and go to a different room 315 00:18:30,719 --> 00:18:32,032 and do something different. 316 00:18:32,056 --> 00:18:36,377 The reason is because your brain will very quickly associate your bedroom 317 00:18:36,401 --> 00:18:38,720 with the place of wakefulness, 318 00:18:38,744 --> 00:18:41,433 and you need to break that association. 319 00:18:41,457 --> 00:18:44,354 So only return to bed when you are sleepy, 320 00:18:44,378 --> 00:18:47,917 and that way you will relearn the association that you once had, 321 00:18:47,941 --> 00:18:50,449 which is your bed is the place of sleep. 322 00:18:50,473 --> 00:18:52,132 So the analogy would be, 323 00:18:52,156 --> 00:18:55,732 you'd never sit at the dinner table, waiting to get hungry, 324 00:18:55,756 --> 00:18:58,719 so why would you lie in bed, waiting to get sleepy? 325 00:18:59,548 --> 00:19:01,548 DB: Well, thank you for that wake-up call. 326 00:19:01,572 --> 00:19:02,741 Great job, Matt. 327 00:19:02,765 --> 00:19:04,961 MW: You're very welcome. Thank you very much.