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Dein eigenes Herz wird das Geliebte

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26. January 2025
(mit Untertiteln)

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F.:Ich fühle, dass du manchmal sagst:

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"Wir wissen nicht, wie ehrlich oder offen wir sind."

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Und ich fühle es.

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M: Okay, du sagst:
"Manchmal wissen wir nicht, 
wie offen wir sind."

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Da gehe ich ein bisschen mit.
Du bist offen genug, um hierher zu kommen.

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M: Weißt du, was das für ein Laden ist?
F: Ja.

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M: Was für ein Laden ist es?
[Lachen]

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F: Dieser Laden ... leerer Laden.

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M: Leerer Laden?
[Lachen]

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M: Das ist sehr clever. Sehr gut, ok. 
F: Vielleicht.

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M: Ok, du bist also für etwas Leerheit gekommen.
[lacht]

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[Lachen]

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M: Ok. F: Ich fühle einfach, 
dass man da leicht was nicht verstehen kann.

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M: In einem leeren Laden kannst du nicht einkaufen,
du kannst nur sein.

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Da gibt es nichts zu kaufen.

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Das ist ein guter Titel: "Komm in den leeren Laden."
[Lachen]

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Diebe in einem leeren Haus.

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Das möchte ich nutzen.
Ich möchte, dass du das nutzt.

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Warum verwendest du dieses Beispiel?
"Leer. Leerer Laden."

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F: Ich fühle, dass ich nicht hundert Prozent sicher
sein kann,

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ob es da etwas gibt, das ich nicht sehe.

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M: Ja.
Ich weiß nicht, ob ich je jemanden getroffen habe,

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der sich über irgendetwas 100% sicher ist.

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Außer, dass du bist.

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Vielleicht kannst du das sagen,
dass du dir sicher bist, dass du existierst

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und dass du erlebst oder wahrnimmst.

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M: Stimmst du zu, oder nicht? Du weißt, du bist.
F: Ja.

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M: Und dass du erlebst.
F: Ja.

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M: Lass uns also damit arbeiten,

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weil alles andere an dem vorbeizieht.

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Alles kommt also und wird wahrgenommen.

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Es kommt und geht, und wird wahrgenommen.
Warum findet Wahrnehmen statt?

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Weil du hier bist, du existierst.
Nun müssen wir schauen.

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Verlass alles, das kommt und geht.

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Lass das jetzt.
Nur du und Wahrnehmung.

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Und von dir und Wahrnehmung,

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welches ist am Wahrsten, wenn eins gehen müsste?

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Hm?

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Du sagst: "Ich nehme wahr. Ich nehme wahr."

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"Ich nehme wahr" bedeutet also, dass alles Erleben,

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was auch immer passiert, wird von diesem Gefühl
von "Ich" wahrgenomen.

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M: Ja?
F: Ja.

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M: Du könntest also sogar sagen:
"Ich nehme nicht wahr",

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was bedeutet, dass du wahrnimmst, dass du
nichts wahrnimmst.

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Ich werde es sauber und einfach halten.

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Also ...

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Sprechender 1: Guruji, wie ist es damit,
wenn man Leerheit wahrnimmt?

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F: Wenn du sagst: "Was ist wahrer?",

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ich erinnere mich nicht genau, was du gesagt hast,
etwa: "Du nimmst wahr."

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M: Du weißt, du existierst.
F: Ja.

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M: Und dass du dein Wahrnehmen wahrnimmst 
oder erlebst

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durch die Sinne oder den Mind.

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Wenn innere oder äußere Zustände [kommen],

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werden sie von dir wahrgenommen.

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Alles, was kommt, kann also gehen.

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Mentale Zustände, emotionale Zustände,
Freunde können kommen,

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Menschen leben, Menschen bleiben,
Menschen sterben,

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du fühlst Krankeit, du fühlst Gesundheit,

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du fühlst Aufregung, fühlst Langeweile,
fühlst Müdigkeit, fühlst Energie.

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M: All dies nimmst du wahr,
und es kommt und geht.

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M: Du, der das wahrnimmt,

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kommt und geht das?
Ist es persönlich?

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M: Auch persönliche Zustände kommen.
F: Ja.

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M: Diese liegen also auch im Feld des Wahrnehmbaren,
nicht wahr?

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Also selbst solche Dinge und das Gefühl von "Ich"

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und eine Autobiografie, 
deine Vorstellungen vom Leben,

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all diese persönlichen Dinge 
werden auch wahgrenommen. Ok?

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M: Und ihre Form kann sich verändern,
und diese Veränderung wird auch wahrgenommen.

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Sie können also nicht das sein, was sie wahrnimmt.

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M: Stimmt das?
F: Ja.

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M: Das, was wahrnimmt, ist es

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materiell oder immateriell?
Es ist immaterial?

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F: Es ist nicht stofflich.
M: Es ist nicht stofflich.

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F: Ich kann nicht sagen, was es ist.
Aber ich erlebe, dass ...

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M: Wer spricht jetzt?

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M: Es ist keine Fangfrage. 
F: Ich schaue.

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M: Die Antwort kommt offensichtlich so
flüssig, so problemlos,

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es gibt keine Anstrengung zu kommentieren,
dass all diese Dinge wahrgenommen werden.

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Und dass, was auch immer wahrnimmt,

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dies selbst nicht anhand einer Eigenschaft 
wahrgenommen werden.

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Ist es männlich oder weiblich?
Ist es irgendetwas davon? Nein.

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Antworten, Reaktionen kommen also von dort.

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Selbst die Antworten kommen also
und werden auch wahrgenommen,

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treten aus etwas hervor, was auch immer,
einer Sache oder keiner Sache.

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F: Ich weiß nicht, ob dieses Hervortreten aus etwas
wahrgenommen wird.

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M: Ok, sie erscheinen auch, sie erscheinen.

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Das, was sie also wahrnimmt,
was kann man darüber sagen?

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Ist es eine Struktur oder keine Struktur?

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F: Es ist keine Struktur.
M: Ok.

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M: Ist das für dich bedeutsam?
F: Es ist. Es ist bedeutsam.

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M: Ok, wo fängt das Problem an,
wenn eines anfängt?

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M: Ist es eine neue Fähigkeit,
die du entwickelt hast?

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Und jeder kann [das] anwenden.
Es ist nichts Spezielles bei dir.

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Es ist für jeden.
Für jeden gibt es das Gefühl "Ich", "Ich bin",

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aber es wird schnell dem Körper zugeordnet.
"Ich bin diese Person",

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"Ich komme aus Deutschland", "Ich komme von dort",
"Ich bin Arzt",

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"Ich bin dies und das und jenes", wird angenommen.

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Es nimmt also das Gefühl an, 
etwas Identifizierbares zu sein.

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Von deinem Ort ist das aber auch ein Konstrukt,
das gesehen wird.

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Das "Ich", dass diese sieht, ist nicht diese Dinge.

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Du kannst nicht sagen, es ist ein Arzt oder
eine Krankenschwester,

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oder es ist 1,7 Zentimeter.

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170cm, es hat diese Dinge nicht.

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Wie ist es sich selbst gegenüber?

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Wenn es sich nicht mit Punkten der Wahrnehmung

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300
00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:24,928


301
00:20:24,928 --> 00:20:30,683


302
00:20:30,683 --> 00:20:34,100


303
00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:37,770


304
00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:40,521


305
00:20:40,521 --> 00:20:43,240


306
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,360


307
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:49,388


308
00:20:49,388 --> 00:20:51,950


309
00:20:51,950 --> 00:20:56,787


310
00:20:56,787 --> 00:21:01,477


311
00:21:01,477 --> 00:21:05,230


312
00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:08,680


313
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,010


314
00:21:12,010 --> 00:21:15,390


315
00:21:15,390 --> 00:21:18,960


316
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,002


317
00:21:21,002 --> 00:21:26,750


318
00:21:26,750 --> 00:21:29,397


319
00:21:29,397 --> 00:21:32,870


320
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:36,637


321
00:21:36,637 --> 00:21:38,638


322
00:21:38,638 --> 00:21:42,020


323
00:21:42,020 --> 00:21:46,160


324
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,189


325
00:21:49,189 --> 00:21:53,060


326
00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:55,214


327
00:21:55,214 --> 00:21:59,700


328
00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:02,962


329
00:22:02,962 --> 00:22:05,627


330
00:22:05,627 --> 00:22:10,339


331
00:22:10,339 --> 00:22:13,900


332
00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:16,930


333
00:22:16,930 --> 00:22:19,110


334
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:24,220


335
00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:28,660


336
00:22:28,660 --> 00:22:32,390


337
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:35,190


338
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:38,261


339
00:22:38,261 --> 00:22:41,856


340
00:22:41,856 --> 00:22:46,321


341
00:22:46,321 --> 00:22:49,099


342
00:22:49,099 --> 00:22:52,060


343
00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:55,787


344
00:22:55,787 --> 00:22:57,787


345
00:22:57,787 --> 00:23:03,624


346
00:23:03,624 --> 00:23:05,900


347
00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:10,120


348
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:16,500


349
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:20,601


350
00:23:20,601 --> 00:23:24,545


351
00:23:24,545 --> 00:23:27,860


352
00:23:27,860 --> 00:23:30,048


353
00:23:30,048 --> 00:23:33,940


354
00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:38,650


355
00:23:38,650 --> 00:23:40,675


356
00:23:40,675 --> 00:23:43,765


357
00:23:43,765 --> 00:23:47,310


358
00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:49,510


359
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:52,668


360
00:23:52,668 --> 00:23:55,100


361
00:23:55,100 --> 00:24:00,890


362
00:24:00,890 --> 00:24:04,020


363
00:24:04,020 --> 00:24:08,486


364
00:24:08,486 --> 00:24:11,440


365
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,808


366
00:24:16,808 --> 00:24:21,750


367
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:24,460


368
00:24:24,460 --> 00:24:32,370


369
00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:35,699


370
00:24:35,699 --> 00:24:39,410


371
00:24:39,410 --> 00:24:42,280


372
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:47,160


373
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,801


374
00:24:51,801 --> 00:24:55,748


375
00:24:55,748 --> 00:24:57,750


376
00:24:57,750 --> 00:25:01,140


377
00:25:01,140 --> 00:25:06,481


378
00:25:06,481 --> 00:25:12,691


379
00:25:12,691 --> 00:25:17,796


380
00:25:17,796 --> 00:25:19,800


381
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,400


382
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,730


383
00:25:27,730 --> 00:25:31,330


384
00:25:31,330 --> 00:25:34,112


385
00:25:34,112 --> 00:25:38,360


386
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:42,520


387
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:49,243


388
00:25:49,243 --> 00:25:52,781


389
00:25:52,781 --> 00:25:56,528


390
00:25:56,528 --> 00:25:59,830


391
00:25:59,830 --> 00:26:02,283


392
00:26:02,283 --> 00:26:06,030


393
00:26:06,030 --> 00:26:09,840


394
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,790


395
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:18,212


396
00:26:18,212 --> 00:26:20,368


397
00:26:20,368 --> 00:26:24,160


398
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,890


399
00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:32,230


400
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:36,470


401
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:39,630


402
00:26:39,630 --> 00:26:42,140


403
00:26:42,140 --> 00:26:48,040


404
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,290


405
00:26:53,290 --> 00:26:58,910


406
00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:01,250


407
00:27:01,250 --> 00:27:05,070


408
00:27:05,070 --> 00:27:08,382


409
00:27:08,382 --> 00:27:10,450


410
00:27:10,450 --> 00:27:14,970


411
00:27:14,970 --> 00:27:17,703


412
00:27:17,703 --> 00:27:21,030


413
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:24,690


414
00:27:24,690 --> 00:27:29,420


415
00:27:29,420 --> 00:27:32,110


416
00:27:32,110 --> 00:27:35,080


417
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,758


418
00:27:39,758 --> 00:27:44,651


419
00:27:44,651 --> 00:27:48,429


420
00:27:48,429 --> 00:27:53,710


421
00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:57,440


422
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,060


423
00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:06,640


424
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,020


425
00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:18,307


426
00:28:18,307 --> 00:28:20,980


427
00:28:20,980 --> 00:28:24,545


428
00:28:24,545 --> 00:28:28,830


429
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:31,366


430
00:28:31,366 --> 00:28:34,250


431
00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:38,750


432
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:42,429


433
00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:44,539


434
00:28:44,539 --> 00:28:46,870


435
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:50,280


436
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,410


437
00:28:55,410 --> 00:28:57,730


438
00:28:57,730 --> 00:29:01,670


439
00:29:01,670 --> 00:29:03,835


440
00:29:03,835 --> 00:29:07,834


441
00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:12,259


442
00:29:12,259 --> 00:29:17,320


443
00:29:20,250 --> 00:29:24,630


444
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:27,556


445
00:29:27,556 --> 00:29:32,200


446
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,405


447
00:29:37,405 --> 00:29:41,924


448
00:29:41,924 --> 00:29:44,010


449
00:29:44,010 --> 00:29:49,770


450
00:29:49,770 --> 00:29:54,245


451
00:29:54,245 --> 00:29:56,680


452
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,700


453
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:04,936


454
00:30:04,936 --> 00:30:09,380


455
00:30:09,380 --> 00:30:13,170


456
00:30:13,170 --> 00:30:18,450


457
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:21,570


458
00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:25,407


459
00:30:25,407 --> 00:30:28,570


460
00:30:28,570 --> 00:30:33,225


461
00:30:33,225 --> 00:30:37,620


462
00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:41,950


463
00:30:41,950 --> 00:30:47,320


464
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,040


465
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,818


466
00:30:56,818 --> 00:31:03,853


467
00:31:03,853 --> 00:31:09,960


468
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,040


469
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,030


470
00:31:16,030 --> 00:31:19,240


471
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,601


472
00:31:24,601 --> 00:31:28,150


473
00:31:28,150 --> 00:31:30,538


474
00:31:30,538 --> 00:31:35,330


475
00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:38,520


476
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,790


477
00:31:42,790 --> 00:31:46,590


478
00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:52,780


479
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:55,226


480
00:31:55,226 --> 00:31:57,970


481
00:31:57,970 --> 00:32:01,490


482
00:32:01,490 --> 00:32:04,550


483
00:32:04,550 --> 00:32:09,894


484
00:32:09,894 --> 00:32:13,590


485
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:16,800


486
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,338


487
00:32:20,338 --> 00:32:24,460


488
00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:28,340


489
00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:33,000


490
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,076


491
00:32:36,076 --> 00:32:41,020


492
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:43,160


493
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,890


494
00:32:45,890 --> 00:32:48,980


495
00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:51,220


496
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:54,741


497
00:32:54,741 --> 00:32:58,530


498
00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:02,776


499
00:33:02,776 --> 00:33:05,780


500
00:33:05,780 --> 00:33:10,620


501
00:33:10,620 --> 00:33:15,500


502
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,260


503
00:33:18,260 --> 00:33:20,913


504
00:33:20,913 --> 00:33:24,770


505
00:33:24,770 --> 00:33:29,942


506
00:33:29,942 --> 00:33:32,693


507
00:33:32,693 --> 00:33:35,610


508
00:33:35,610 --> 00:33:40,660


509
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:45,600


510
00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:52,580


511
00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:55,250


512
00:33:55,250 --> 00:34:00,100


513
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:04,980


514
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:08,266


515
00:34:08,266 --> 00:34:10,600


516
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:18,260


517
00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:23,060


518
00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:25,740


519
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:31,050


520
00:34:31,050 --> 00:34:35,809


521
00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:41,640


522
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,770


523
00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:47,810


524
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:54,858


525
00:34:54,858 --> 00:34:56,860


526
00:34:56,860 --> 00:35:00,860


527
00:35:00,860 --> 00:35:05,616


528
00:35:05,616 --> 00:35:10,318


529
00:35:10,318 --> 00:35:14,670


530
00:35:14,670 --> 00:35:19,130


531
00:35:19,130 --> 00:35:22,760


532
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,554


533
00:35:27,554 --> 00:35:29,981


534
00:35:29,981 --> 00:35:33,360


535
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,188


536
00:35:38,188 --> 00:35:42,328


537
00:35:42,328 --> 00:35:46,195


538
00:35:46,195 --> 00:35:51,164


539
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,759


540
00:35:59,759 --> 00:36:04,082


541
00:36:04,082 --> 00:36:06,342


542
00:36:06,342 --> 00:36:10,070


543
00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:13,272


544
00:36:13,272 --> 00:36:17,876


545
00:36:17,876 --> 00:36:22,770


546
00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:27,070


547
00:36:27,070 --> 00:36:31,680


548
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,148


549
00:36:35,148 --> 00:36:41,830


550
00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:44,834


551
00:36:44,834 --> 00:36:48,204


552
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:57,520


553
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:03,990


554
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:06,109


555
00:37:06,109 --> 00:37:10,437


556
00:37:10,437 --> 00:37:14,569


557
00:37:14,569 --> 00:37:17,913


558
00:37:17,913 --> 00:37:22,499


559
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:31,740


560
00:37:31,740 --> 00:37:39,150


561
00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:41,520


562
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,317


563
00:37:47,317 --> 00:37:50,470


564
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:55,690


565
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:59,250


566
00:37:59,250 --> 00:38:08,820


567
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:16,860


568
00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:19,050


569
00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:22,980


570
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:26,979


571
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:37,795


572
00:38:37,795 --> 00:38:39,985


573
00:38:39,985 --> 00:38:43,005


574
00:38:56,980 --> 00:39:01,489


575
00:39:04,830 --> 00:39:11,050


576
00:39:11,050 --> 00:39:14,439


577
00:39:14,439 --> 00:39:18,690


578
00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:20,880


579
00:39:23,930 --> 00:39:28,410


580
00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:32,380


581
00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:36,030


582
00:39:36,030 --> 00:39:39,301


583
00:39:39,301 --> 00:39:42,651


584
00:39:42,651 --> 00:39:45,450


585
00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:49,010


586
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:54,930


587
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:59,180


588
00:39:59,180 --> 00:40:02,100


589
00:40:22,455 --> 00:40:25,960


590
00:40:41,410 --> 00:40:44,354


591
00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:49,334


592
00:40:49,334 --> 00:40:51,480


593
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,020


594
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:59,260


595
00:40:59,260 --> 00:41:04,430


596
00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:08,244


597
00:41:08,244 --> 00:41:10,860


598
00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:12,600


599
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,526


600
00:41:15,526 --> 00:41:19,360


601
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,242


602
00:41:22,242 --> 00:41:27,672


603
00:41:27,672 --> 00:41:33,419


604
00:41:48,131 --> 00:41:51,790


605
00:41:51,790 --> 00:41:54,876


606
00:41:54,876 --> 00:41:57,969