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Your Own Heart is Becoming the Beloved

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26 January 2025
(with subtitles)

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Q: I feel, sometimes you say,
we don't know how honest

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or how open we are. And I feel it.

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M: Okay, you say, 'Sometimes we 
don't know how open we are'.

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I'm a little bit with this.
But you're open enough to come here.

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M: You know what shop this is?
Q: Yes.

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M: What shop is it?
[laughter]

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Q: The shop... Empty shop.

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M: Empty shop. [laughs]
[laughter]

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M: Very smart. Very good, okay.
Q: Maybe.

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M: So you come for some emptiness. 
[laughs]

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[laughter] Okay.

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Q: I just feel it's easy to miss this one.

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M: Empty shop you cannot buy.
You can only Be.

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There's nothing to purchase.

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It's a good title 'Come to empty shop'.
[laughter]

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Thieves in an empty house.

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I want to use it. 
I want you to use this,

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why you use this example,
empty, empty shop.

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M: What I feel is I cannot be, 
like I cannot be 100 percent sure

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if there is anything I'm not seeing.

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M: Yes. I don't know if I've ever met anybody

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a 100 percent sure of anything.

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Except that you are.

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Maybe this you can say 
you're sure of that you exist,

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and that you are experiencing or perceiving.

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You agree or not? You know that you are?
Q: Yes.

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M: And that you are experiencing?
Q: Yes.

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M: So only let's work with this then

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as everything else is traffic to this.

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So everything comes is being perceived.

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Comes and goes is being perceived.
Why perceiving is here?

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Because you are here, you exist. 
Now we must look.

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Leave everything that can come and go.

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Leave all of that now.
Only you and perceiving.

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And of you and perceiving,

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which is most true, if one has to go?

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You say, 'I perceive,' I perceive.

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So, I perceive means every experiencing,

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whatever is happening is perceived 
by this sense of 'I'.

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M: Yes?
Q: Yes.

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M: So you could even say, 
'I am not perceiving'.

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Which means I'm perceiving 
that I'm not perceiving.

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I'm going to keep it clean and simple.

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Speaker: Guruji, how about that 
you're perceiving emptiness?

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M: Just when you say, 'What is more true?'

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I don't remember exactly what you said, 
like, 'You're perceiving?'

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M: You know that you exist.
Q: Yes.

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M: And that you are perceiving
or experiencing your perceiving

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through the senses or the mind.

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If some inner state or outer states,

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that's being perceived by you.

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So everything that comes, can go.

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Mental states, emotional states,
friends can come,

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people live, people stay, people die,

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you feel sickness, you feel healthy,

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you feel excitement, feel boredom,
feel tired, feel energy,

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M: all this you perceive 
and they come and go.

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M: You who perceive them,

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does that come and go?
Is it personal?

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M: Also, personal states come.
Q: Yes.

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M: So, that's also amongst 
the field of perceivable, isn't it?

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So even those things, 
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and autobiography, your ideas about life,

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all of those personal things,
they are also perceived. Okay.

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M: And they can change shape,
and their change is also perceived.

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So they cannot be that which perceives them.

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M: That's true?
Q: Yes.

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M: That which is perceiving, is it

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material or immaterial? It's immaterial?

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Q: It's not material.
M: It's not material.

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Q: I cannot say what it is.
But I experience that ...

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M: Who is speaking now?

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M: It's not a trick question.
Q: I'm looking.

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M: Obviously, the response is coming 
so fluidly and so comfortably,

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there's no strain to comment that
all these things are being perceived.

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And that whatever is perceiving

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itself cannot be perceived by quality.

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Is it male or female? 
Is it any of these things? No.

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So, answers, responses are coming from there.

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So even the responses are coming
and they are also perceived

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pouring out of some, whatever, 
something, or no thing.

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Q: I don't know if it's pouring out 
of something. It's perceived.

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M: Okay, they are appearing also,
they appear.

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So that which is perceiving them,
what is to be said of that?

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Is it a structure or no structure?

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Q: It's no structure.
M: Okay.

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M: Is that significant for you?
Q: It is significant. It is.

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M: Okay. Where does the problem start,
if one starts?

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M: Is it a new skill that you developed?

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And anyone can apply.
It's not particularly to you.

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It's for anyone.
For everyone there's a sense of 'I', 'I Am',

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but it's quickly given to the body,
'I am this person',

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'I'm from Germany', 'I'm from this place',
'I'm a doctor',

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'I'm this and that and that', is acquired,

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so it takes on the sense 
of being something identifiable.

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But from your place, 
that is also a construct that is seen.

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The 'I' that is seeing them
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You cannot say he's a doctor or a nurse,

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or it's 1.7 cm,

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170 cm, you know,
he doesn't have any of those things.

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What is it like unto itself,

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if it doesn't connect with points of perception

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or things to perceive, by itself?

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Q: It's not bothered by anything.

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M: Yes. Okay, bring the things back.

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M: Is it bothered by them?
Q: No.

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Q: It is, if identity is missed.

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M: If identity?
Q: Is not seen.

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M: So, identity brings all the trouble then?

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Q: Identifying brings all the trouble,
but for who?

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M: Ahh. Are are you asking me about that?
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M: You have to find out. 
Right here is good.

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M: The trouble cannot be for that

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Q: which is not touched by it.
M: Yes.

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M: Is 'that which is not touched by it'
an object of perception?

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Q: No.
M: Where is it?

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Q: It has no location.

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M: It has no problem.
Q: It has no problem.

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M: Let's go to where the problems are.

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Why are you trying to solve a thing 
that has no problem?

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Q: 'Why try to solve a thing 
that has no problem?'

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M: Yes. It has no problem!
[laughter]

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So where will we go now to find a problem?

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It is good. It's fine!
We're looking and it's good.

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I don't want to feel, 
'Ah! Yes, end of thing, I go now.'

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Because problems begin somewhere

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and everyone is troubled by it.

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Who is the everyone, you must also find.

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It appears that you are no one,
and you are someone.

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In this receding you come to,

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'Ah, actually, I am here.
'I', but 'I' as what is here?'

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Well, it's certainly not the person.

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It's not male or female.
Or it's not Muslim or Christian.

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It's something, something, nothing about it.

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M: Is it a valuable discovery?
Q: Yes.

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M: Yes. So that's not where problems are.
Q: No.

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M: Okay. So where problems come

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is in the place of identity ...
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M: ...where I am someone.
Q: Yes.

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M: Is there a way 
that this sense of being someone,

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how does that look now
from the place of your discovery?

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'Fundamentally, I am not any of these things

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that have been spoken of.'

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How does the things, the world of things,
what is their value?

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They don't impact upon this,

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but somehow this must be
the cause of them playing,

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and here the sense 'I' is also there,

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and a very familiar feeling of 'I'. 
But is it stable?

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Is it always constant, this 'I',
now, the second 'I'?

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Q: The moving 'I' is not constant.
M: Yes, yes.

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M: So is it not the moving 'I'
who came to satsang?

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Q: Yes.
M: Yes.

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M: Because what?
It cannot control its world.

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Q: And it's good it cannot, 
because it wouldn't ...

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it wouldn't find out what it really is
if it could control anything.

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Like if there wouldn't be this trouble
and this pain in this identifying,

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there would be no urge to ...

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M: So it must have an urge.
It must have a drive.

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What is the drive of this 'I'
which is the 'I'-person?

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Because all the human beings,

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we have this mask or sickness 
of 'I'-me, 'I'-me.

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What is the 'I'-me really in search of?

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Everybody can take this.

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The 'I'-me, is it quiet and content 
and happily 'I'-me?

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No. So what does it want?

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Speaker: Probably, to be free of suffering.

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M: It's to be free of suffering.

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Only you? Only you? Oh, okay, okay.
To be free of suffering.

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M: What is it suffering from?
Group: It's projection.

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M: It's projection. It's projection.
Da da da ...

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We're in common ground now.
It's having some suffering.

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Q: But I'm not sure that this 'I',

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like this identified one 
wants to be at peace.

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M: Wants to be?
Q: At peace.

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M: Doesn't want to be at peace?
Q: I'm not sure about that.

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M: You speaking now are not that.

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M: Is that what you're saying?
Q: Not being ...?

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M: Not the person, you're not sure 
the person self is really ... da da da.

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Who is speaking now?
Just to be clear and look.

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You're looking from where?

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From an identified place 
or a not identified place?

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There is a feeling 'I Am',
I call it consciousness,

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that 'I Am'-ness without strong identification

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with the personal sense, that is,

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let me call it the Brahman for the moment,

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only because I can I have 
another word called Parabrahman.

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Could you understand? All right.
So it is the consciousness.

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It is the guru state of being,

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which is there for all, for everybody.

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It is that in which the world of person
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and all of this is seen from here,

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but is not disturbed by that.

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And from this place, 'I Am' has the power,

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by looking into the realm 
of the 'I'-me and the 'I'-person,

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imparts some grace to it.
As in the form of the 'I'-person ...

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Are we following? It's good?
In the form of the 'I'-person

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it is still consciousness,
it's a mode of consciousness.

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And that sense of being,
if you want to call it a soul ...

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Are we alright for the moment?
Just working words.

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The soul, it has different characteristics.

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In India, they speak of the different gunas,

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which are kind of energetic qualities

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that affect the soul, some soul tendency.

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Q: Sorry, but the soul 
you call the person now? Or what?

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M: Yes. Let me just continue 
and then you'll see.

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M: So then, the sense of being somebody,

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an entity with the characteristic,
with a history,

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with association, with parents, with family,

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with all of these things, self description,

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that makes you uniquely you.

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At least, for the time being

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because also you keep changing 
what you say about yourself.

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If you keep on writing an autobiography
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it's going to keep changing.
So the person is not stable.

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Whereas the 'I Am', which generates

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the projection of the mind and person ...

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I'm going to call person and mind similar, 
for the moment.

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If you want me to cover because 
it's good if you understand this thing,

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then it becomes more clear, no?

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So the personal state of consciousness

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is where all the conflicts can come,
desire can come.

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Pain, life, death, you, me,
this, that, up, down, heaven, hell,

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all these things are in there for the person.

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It's never a stable environment.

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And even unto itself, 
with nothing to interfere,

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it interferes with itself.

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It also suffers from its own, 'I'm lonely,

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I don't know what I'm going to do.'
So it's never without trouble.

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But as it's also on a journey 
of this world, as we know it,

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each one is on a journey of Self-discovery.

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It may not be conscious of it like that.

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For a while our urge for discovering things
can be merely phenomenal.

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Like, I want to be a lawyer or a doctor,
to be famous,

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I want to be a singer, 
I want to be something,

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and all this produces fruit. 
It's a power, it produces fruit.

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You may indeed become famous or rich, 
all these kinds of things.

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But we are discovering, 
even those who became very rich,

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at some point they're not satisfied 
with being rich

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as the whole system is built like that.

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You can never be really satisfied,

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really genuinely satisfied, until you're home.

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And 'home' means to awaken 
to your True nature,

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which is not somewhere else,
not over there,

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it's like peeling away, no?

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So my way of looking at it is that

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the person is the one 
who takes the journey of life.

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And I would not say...

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In Advaita thought the person doesn't exist,

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the mind doesn't exist, the world doesn't exist, 
and ultimately it is true,

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but you must understand 
in what light it is true.

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Because when you say to beings 
who have a strong idea of self

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and who have a philosophy, 
have relief, have belief, all these things,

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'It's not true, it doesn't exist',

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it's very hurtful, 
'You don't know what you're saying!'

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Some can adopt that thing 
and indeed learn and take that attitude,

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but inside it's not true.
Something has to be clear.

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So the sense of being someone,
it is consciousness.

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When you say 'I', when you feel 'I',

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because nobody gave you 'I'.
Everything else you receive.

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Nobody, not your parents didn't say,
'I'm going to name you "I".'

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And yet all the beings 
have this intuitive self-reference of 'I'.

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Not the English version.

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So even mosquitoes have a feeling of 'I'.

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'I' points to existence, 'I'-exist.
That's what it really means.

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But 'I'-person very rarely touchs on this root

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that it means existence 
and that it is conscious.

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It doesn't even know 
that it cannot die as consciousness.

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Consciousness cannot die.

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But its belief 'I am the body' can die.

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But doesn't mean It dies.
The body will die.

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But what you 'are' cannot die,

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it will just transfer for more experiencing

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if there's more things to experience.

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So this urge inside 
with different beings in different bodies,

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like identities in different bodies, 
are on a journey,

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depending upon your maturity.

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Some people only want to be famous,

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or, 'I want 5 children, 
I want a beautiful house,

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I want enough money to do what I want'.

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Those desires are permitted 
by Parabrahman, by Paramatman.

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That life gives life in this.

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All desires can be had, good and bad.

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And it will help you to fulfil your desires.

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Even a thief, 
He wants you to be a better thief.

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It gives the power
to learn to be a better thief!

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Because God has a use for you 
as a great thief. [laughter]

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Because He is going to perfect the other ones,

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who may be somewhere more evolved
with your thievery.

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They need this thievery 
to move on even more.

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The whole thing is beautifully managed
[laughter]

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by Paramatman taking care of all things.

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Not one thing goes missing.
Not only for human beings,

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the ant kingdom, the bee kingdom,

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the horse and every kingdom,
He is the God of all of them.

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They have their rules.
They have their philosophies.

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They have their ways.
They have their likes and dislikes.

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They have their urges and their suffering.

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Everything is evolving somehow.

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Let's stick to our world for a little bit. Okay?

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So in our world, this urge is there,

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and for a while, depending upon ...

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because not all the beings 
are at the same level of maturity.

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He made it like that. He didn't say, 
all who are mature go here

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and all of you mature [go here.] 
No, He mixes up. And we fight.

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But we need it also.

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I'm saying this so that 
you don't complain about your life.

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Everything that's sent to you,
if you take it only as,

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'This thing happened to me,
you didn't do anything about it.'

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Actually, you earned it.

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You have to make use of the experience of it

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to transcend in yourself.

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As you transcend in yourself

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your light becomes light for others also.

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But don't think like that, 'I, my light ...'
[laughter]

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You understand?

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If you have this attitude, okay.

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But somehow this is needed,
it's pointing out something.

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Rather than 'Oh, they are attacking me ...'

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The self as a person is also very myopic

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and very self protecting.

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That's why he doesn't grow so quick
because it feels vulnerable.

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And when you're vulnerable it locks in

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and 'pew pew'. [shoots] It locks in.

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When you see these things, you realise,
'But a deeper consciousness ...'

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She's just been speaking 
from this deeper consciousness,

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in which the sense of the person and its world

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are seen with more detachment.

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You say, 'But I speak with you ... 
But from here, I'm actually just fine'.

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What do you want?
What do you need?

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What is your problem?
'Actually, here, nothing actually'.

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For problem, I have to go back over there.

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And over there is in the state of the person

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and my neighbours and my relationship 
and things,

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and I get enough money and ...
This is the woes of the person.

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They are here to make you grow, to help you.

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When you see and understand this a little bit,

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you don't get angry, 'Oh, they are the cause.'
But you use it.

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But when you come here,
I want to fast forward! Which you can.

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You can go tick tock, tick tock.

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Or you can somehow come into big seeing.

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You can travel in footsteps 
or you can travel by galaxies.

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So here, I feel, and I assume,
you may correct me,

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that when you come here, 
there is within the capacity

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to 'phoo' flower into higher states.

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When you realise, 
'I'm kind of wasting my time

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in the person quite a lot.

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Because now I'm aware of myself 
in consciousness, as consciousness'.

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And what happens by that?

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Well, as you learn to observe, 
as I've shown,

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learn to observe things more, 
as we're too identified,

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if you identify you slow down, 
and what happens?

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You start to accumulate concepts.

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And the more concepts you accumulate,

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the more opaque you become,
the more solid, the more rigid.

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If you know people 
who have a pile of concepts,

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their concepts and your concepts 
can't dance. 'No, no, whoa.'

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Even family can be like this.

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So what you will learn is,
by observing with detachment,

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learning to look and see 
if you can catch this seeing

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where even your person,

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your person, the subject 
of all your world, is itself seen.

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When you can see, you can say, 'Whoa!'

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It's not just a world, but the personal self

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that has the reflection of that world.

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They are, when I say two sides of one coin,
they go together.

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Your mistake has been, 
you're identifying yourself and feeling,

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'But it's the world,
everything is wrong there. It's not me.'

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What makes you do that is because

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also your person goes by the title of 'I'.

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And 'I' means God. You understand?

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Your 'I' is consciousness, 
which is Godly principle.

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Then you understand this 'I', the 'I'-me,

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and the 'I'-I, or the 'I'-am',
you see the difference.

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When we go into 'I'-me, 
all your life struggle, 'This I can't get',

377
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'this one is sick and ...'
it is strong, it is strong.

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It didn't have its origin in one body life-form.

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It's been going on for a long time.

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But gradually it's growing through, 
what I call, the guna field.

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Gunas mean some energy 
which is tamasic guna.

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Means that when the entity of self 
is more resistant

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and more sort of easily troubled

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and full of identity and resistance,

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that's called tamasic guna, tama guna.

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Then the energy, 
the entity energy can also have

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something you can call raja guna,

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means the soul is more energetic,
it's full of desire,

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it wants to do things, it's adventurous,
it has many ideas.

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And then, also, another guna called sattva guna.

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Sattva guna is more pure,

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meaning when the energy field 
is more attracted to spirit;

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it wants to evolve in consciousness,
it wants to realise.

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These gunas are playing 
within the beingness.

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Some gunas have more ascendance,
strongerer in one.

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Another stronger in another one. Like this.

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So all of you, I say,

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you must be exhibiting 
some stronger sattva guna.

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But you have raja guna in there 
pulling at your tail. [laughter]

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And sometimes tamas guna, 'Uhh, tsk.'

401
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They're all part of it.
[laughter]

402
00:27:01,250 --> 00:27:05,070
It's a kind of fun way of looking, no?

403
00:27:05,070 --> 00:27:08,382
It's not that funny, actually. [laughs]

404
00:27:08,382 --> 00:27:10,450
But we understand a little bit.

405
00:27:10,450 --> 00:27:14,970
So, somehow to come to satsang

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without anyone pressuring you to do that

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means your soul is attracted a bit towards it.

408
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:24,690
And the more you find out, 
and not just intellectually,

409
00:27:24,690 --> 00:27:29,420
but begin to experience your understanding,
experiential understanding,

410
00:27:29,420 --> 00:27:35,080
you're encouraged within yourself,
you're falling in love.

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If you fall in love with someone 
and really falling in love deeply,

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00:27:39,558 --> 00:27:42,081
you will require nobody to remind you

413
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to remember your beloved.

414
00:27:44,651 --> 00:27:48,429
The urge comes from inside, it's pulling,

415
00:27:48,429 --> 00:27:53,710
always, whatever you're doing you're thinking ...
[laughter]

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00:27:53,710 --> 00:27:57,440
So your own self, your own heart 
is becoming the beloved

417
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,060
of your sense of your person.

418
00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:06,640
It's in the sattva guna,
it's drawing more and more.

419
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,020
After sattva guna what happens?

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They call one state turiya,
which means becoming clean,

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00:28:18,307 --> 00:28:20,980
functioning more from consciousness.

422
00:28:20,980 --> 00:28:24,545
The lower states don't trouble you,
they don't trouble.

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00:28:24,545 --> 00:28:28,830
Identity doesn't trouble you.
At some point it won't trouble you.

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00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:31,366
People call you, 'So you're Paulette?'

425
00:28:31,366 --> 00:28:34,250
'Yes, it's my name'. You still use the name.

426
00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:38,750
When you wake up fully into yourself,
you will not have to change name.

427
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:42,429
You don't have to call yourself Parabrahman,

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00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:44,539
or some wonderful name.

429
00:28:44,539 --> 00:28:46,870
You can still use your name.

430
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:50,280
But you are not this name.

431
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,410
You see, it's like, somehow, 
something's unfolding,

432
00:28:55,410 --> 00:28:57,730
and concepts don't stick with you.

433
00:28:57,730 --> 00:29:01,670
The more they don't stick with you,
they're not so important.

434
00:29:01,670 --> 00:29:03,745
Then all is available for you.

435
00:29:03,745 --> 00:29:07,354
You can listen without having to decide,

436
00:29:07,354 --> 00:29:11,559
'I believe in this. What do you believe?
What is your standpoint?'

437
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:17,320
It doesn't matter, actually,
as you're in the All-ness of your being.

438
00:29:20,250 --> 00:29:24,630
Is it okay I'm talking like this?
Let's clear the field. Okay.

439
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:27,556
We're sweeping the house, so you understand.

440
00:29:27,556 --> 00:29:32,040
When you say, 'I don't know why 
I keep getting these things',

441
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,405
that relationship building is sticky.

442
00:29:37,405 --> 00:29:41,654
I don't say, I'll show you how
to solve that problem, that problem.

443
00:29:41,654 --> 00:29:43,840
I say learn something,

444
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:49,770
learn to observe your sense of identity
and its likes and dislikes,

445
00:29:49,770 --> 00:29:54,245
but with some distance learn. 
You can see.

446
00:29:54,245 --> 00:29:56,680
And learn to detach.

447
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,770
And what did I say?
Should I say 99.9 percent

448
00:30:01,770 --> 00:30:04,936
of the things in the world 
does not trouble you?

449
00:30:04,936 --> 00:30:09,310
Means you can walk anywhere 
in the world and things don't go ...

450
00:30:09,310 --> 00:30:13,170
You can move. Natural detachment.

451
00:30:13,170 --> 00:30:18,450
But the 0.1 [laughter]
of the things that matter.

452
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:21,570
'Oh, yeah, but no, no, I don't like pink.

453
00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:25,407
Mmm-mmm. Not me. Mmm-mmm.
I don't like this.

454
00:30:25,407 --> 00:30:28,350
Peacock feathers, 
oh, keep it away from me!'

455
00:30:28,350 --> 00:30:33,225
All this kind of stuff keeps you tied up 
into the shape of the person.

456
00:30:33,225 --> 00:30:37,500
You feel proud, 'I'm this kind of person.
I'm not that kind of person'.

457
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:41,950
You don't realise how we cheat

458
00:30:41,950 --> 00:30:47,320
and shrink from your beauty.

459
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,040
All of this is you!

460
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,818
You will never learn and really ...

461
00:30:56,818 --> 00:31:03,853
Love everyone! 
Even those not yet born, you love.

462
00:31:03,853 --> 00:31:09,960
'Oh, no, but I've never seen them.
Oh, I didn't know.' No, no.

463
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,040
Understand? Because it's your nature.

464
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,030
It's not just your choice.

465
00:31:16,030 --> 00:31:19,240
And so I say, what is the simple thing?

466
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,761
Learn to observe more and more

467
00:31:21,761 --> 00:31:24,691
with detachment, learn to see.

468
00:31:24,691 --> 00:31:28,080
The mind, the maya-mind says, 
'That's wasting time,

469
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,538
I don't get anything from doing that.

470
00:31:30,538 --> 00:31:35,330
I fall asleep whenever I try to look 
without attachment, I fall asleep.

471
00:31:35,330 --> 00:31:38,520
Even here when we do 
the 'Just Be' exercise ...'

472
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,790
Ding dong! I say like this ...
[mimics falling asleep] [laughter]

473
00:31:42,790 --> 00:31:46,590
Just woke up!
[laughter]

474
00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:52,780
What is this? 
It is a kind of psychic resistance, it's in us.

475
00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:55,196
Something that is trying to resist

476
00:31:55,196 --> 00:31:57,970
from coming into the fullness of yourself.

477
00:31:57,970 --> 00:32:01,490
It's a force, this maya force
is a little resistance.

478
00:32:01,490 --> 00:32:04,550
But don't be worried. It will soon change.

479
00:32:04,550 --> 00:32:09,110
The minute you begin to feel the darshan

480
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:13,590
of your own heart, [deep breath]
so much encouragement.

481
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:16,800
But you must earn it.

482
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,338
And what the teacher will do is
teach this thing,

483
00:32:20,338 --> 00:32:24,460
but you have to be on board.

484
00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:28,340
You have to be on board.
You have to be there.

485
00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:33,000
Because even greatest guru cannot help you
if your heart's not on board.

486
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,076
You must work for it.
And look what it is also.

487
00:32:36,076 --> 00:32:41,020
It's very mystical. But it's not difficult.

488
00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:43,160
The path has been made so clean.

489
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,890
The higher you go, the purer the climate,

490
00:32:45,890 --> 00:32:48,980
the simpler the advice, if you can take,

491
00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:51,220
but the stronger the resistance.

492
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:54,391
Because your earth self 'arrgh' is fighting.

493
00:32:54,391 --> 00:32:58,530
It's lazy. 'Argh.' It's like this. 
You have to watch him.

494
00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:02,776
You have to learn to observe this, okay,
and press on.

495
00:33:02,776 --> 00:33:05,780
And what you have, 
you may say at some point,

496
00:33:05,780 --> 00:33:10,620
'I have nothing to encourage me 
because my mind is just killing me.'

497
00:33:10,620 --> 00:33:15,500
And some people say,
'But Guruji told you to do.'

498
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,260
'Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, I do.'

499
00:33:18,260 --> 00:33:20,913
Why? Because you have faith

500
00:33:20,913 --> 00:33:24,770
and faith enough to give you 
some strength, some courage.

501
00:33:24,770 --> 00:33:28,921
Then also life, the source, empowers you,

502
00:33:28,921 --> 00:33:32,613
because you chose,
when you've chosen many things,

503
00:33:32,613 --> 00:33:35,610
you can keep on choosing 
many things in life,

504
00:33:35,610 --> 00:33:40,660
but you're choosing Supreme,

505
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:45,600
you're choosing God-consciousness,
you're choosing Self.

506
00:33:47,540 --> 00:33:52,580
When I speak like this,
I get touched, you see?

507
00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:55,250
If you choose This,

508
00:33:55,250 --> 00:34:00,100
then you are really making use 
of this life-form.

509
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:04,980
Because you can choose many things 
and they will delay you.

510
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:08,266
And it's okay. You like this thing. You like that.

511
00:34:08,266 --> 00:34:10,600
It's freedom. It's okay, it's okay.

512
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,280
But if you have in your heart this choice,

513
00:34:18,260 --> 00:34:23,060
then you have taken the highest choice.

514
00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:28,770
Then you will be tested
and you must pass this test.

515
00:34:31,050 --> 00:34:35,809
And then all the grace of Parabrahman 
comes for you.

516
00:34:39,110 --> 00:34:41,640
If you say, 'I went around the corner,

517
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,770
somebody went, 'Boo!'
I don't want to go there',

518
00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:47,810
then you come, 'Guruji what is the highest?'

519
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:52,089
I said, You didn't even pass the lowest!

520
00:34:52,089 --> 00:34:54,858
[laughter]

521
00:34:54,858 --> 00:34:56,860
M: You want the highest.

522
00:34:56,860 --> 00:35:00,860
I say, a little person comes,
says, 'Look at you. Oh, no, no'.

523
00:35:00,860 --> 00:35:03,806
And you're ... [imitates crying]

524
00:35:03,806 --> 00:35:07,389
I say these small things,
how are you going to overcome?

525
00:35:07,389 --> 00:35:11,878
By looking and learning to let the fear ... 
Don't try to stop the feelings.

526
00:35:11,878 --> 00:35:14,480
Let them come. Don't try and stop them.

527
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,920
What you need is not to stop them,
but to have clear seeing of them.

528
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,760
Just see that it's the life force.

529
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,104
The force of habit is playing
and this is its domain,

530
00:35:27,104 --> 00:35:29,981
this is its sensors, [touches the body]

531
00:35:29,981 --> 00:35:33,360
it's playing in here
and the mind is playing.

532
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,580
And you say, 'But how I can see this?

533
00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:38,188
How come I'm seeing this?'

534
00:35:38,188 --> 00:35:42,668
Gradually, you stay in your satsang,
you listen, you start to find,

535
00:35:42,668 --> 00:35:46,195
'Where there didn't seem to be a way,
there is a way!'

536
00:35:46,195 --> 00:35:52,774
Which way is it?
It's here, it's here, it's here. [points to heart]

537
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,549
So, you just continue. Don't try ...

538
00:36:00,549 --> 00:36:04,162
If someone gets a bit hurt,
you go try something else,

539
00:36:04,162 --> 00:36:06,342
you try something else and try.

540
00:36:06,342 --> 00:36:10,070
No, no. You must have some faith.

541
00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:13,272
If you don't have faith, 
you can pray, ask Baba,

542
00:36:13,272 --> 00:36:17,876
'Oh, Guruji, please, 
I want to believe, I trust,

543
00:36:17,876 --> 00:36:22,770
but I'm weak, please help me.'
God's help comes.

544
00:36:22,770 --> 00:36:27,070
Help comes. Be humble.

545
00:36:27,070 --> 00:36:31,680
As you're growing, kindness is coming.
Kindness is coming.

546
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,288
Maybe you didn't realise 
how unkind your behaviour is.

547
00:36:35,288 --> 00:36:40,100
Selfishness is going.
Empathy is coming.

548
00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:44,834
Spaciousness is coming.

549
00:36:44,834 --> 00:36:48,204
Heaviness is leaving.

550
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:57,520
Unexpected boon and grace is flowing,

551
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,980
seemingly undeserved, it's coming.

552
00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:06,109
Then, things that you feel,

553
00:37:06,109 --> 00:37:10,367
'But how did this come?' are coming.

554
00:37:10,367 --> 00:37:14,389
Then when you start to feel great,
something goes, 'Ehh! Uhh!'

555
00:37:14,389 --> 00:37:17,913
That is coming also. 
Everything is coming. [laughter]

556
00:37:17,913 --> 00:37:22,499
You're going to give up.
Like this it comes.

557
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:35,950
I have a tremendous...
I have in my heart I found

558
00:37:35,950 --> 00:37:39,150
the love for all the beings is there.

559
00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:41,520
I didn't work at it.

560
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,317
You just stay open, 
you come to your natural love,

561
00:37:47,317 --> 00:37:50,470
your natural state is there.

562
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:59,250
But the service to sangha, 
who, if I am right about it,

563
00:37:59,250 --> 00:38:08,820
are those I perceive to be
on a higher journey of awakening,

564
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:14,280
then this body, this life force 
is dedicated to that.

565
00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:19,050
It's dedicated to that.

566
00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:22,980
You will have troubles

567
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:26,979
but you will overcome them.

568
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:39,985
And the highest, clearest power 
in the universe has called you,

569
00:38:39,985 --> 00:38:42,905
[silence]

570
00:38:56,980 --> 00:39:01,489
and supports your seeing.

571
00:39:04,830 --> 00:39:11,050
Stop thinking of yourself 
as some petty little thing.

572
00:39:11,050 --> 00:39:15,769
But don't think of yourself 
as a great thing also. [laughter]

573
00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:20,880
Yeah.

574
00:39:23,930 --> 00:39:28,410
And the one thing that will be repeated:
Don't give up.

575
00:39:28,410 --> 00:39:32,380
Keep looking and clarify 
your misunderstanding of you.

576
00:39:32,380 --> 00:39:35,910
Someone says, 'But I'm doing like this.'
I say no, no.

577
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:42,651
What I show, come now, you do. Look. 
Da da da da. Come. [exhales]

578
00:39:42,651 --> 00:39:45,450
Don't put this in your pocket.

579
00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:52,480
Put it in your heart and stay with it
and increase in it.

580
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:59,470
And so your autobiography 
that you write in your person,

581
00:39:59,470 --> 00:40:03,110
that will disappear.

582
00:40:22,455 --> 00:40:25,960
Group: Thank you.
M: Thank you.

583
00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:44,354
M: What is happening also, is that,

584
00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:49,454
I'm finding more the ones,
I just find them,

585
00:40:49,454 --> 00:40:55,020
we stay together, we look,
and quickly from here, [indicates mind noise]

586
00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:59,260
just go down. [more silent]

587
00:40:59,260 --> 00:41:04,430
You want to come in with me,
we go down. Stay.

588
00:41:04,430 --> 00:41:08,934
And all this mind stuff starts to

589
00:41:08,934 --> 00:41:12,600
just dry up very naturally. Just simple.

590
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,526
I told you from the beginning it is simple,

591
00:41:15,526 --> 00:41:19,360
because you don't have to create your Self.

592
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,242
You can create a false self.

593
00:41:22,242 --> 00:41:27,672
But your True Self you can only discover.

594
00:41:27,672 --> 00:41:33,419
When you discover t, 
the discoverer merges in it also.

595
00:41:48,131 --> 00:41:51,790
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596
00:41:51,790 --> 00:41:54,876
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597
00:41:54,876 --> 00:41:57,969
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