WEBVTT 00:00:09.105 --> 00:00:12.505 Your Own Heart is Becoming the Beloved 00:00:12.505 --> 00:00:14.815 26 January 2025 (with subtitles) 00:00:18.110 --> 00:00:21.867 Q: I feel, sometimes you say, we don't know how honest 00:00:21.867 --> 00:00:27.060 or how open we are. And I feel it. 00:00:27.060 --> 00:00:32.260 M: Okay, you say, 'Sometimes we don't know how open we are'. 00:00:32.260 --> 00:00:36.660 I'm a little bit with this. But you're open enough to come here. 00:00:36.660 --> 00:00:39.211 M: You know what shop this is? Q: Yes. 00:00:39.211 --> 00:00:41.660 M: What shop is it? [laughter] 00:00:41.660 --> 00:00:44.580 Q: The shop... Empty shop. 00:00:44.580 --> 00:00:48.743 M: Empty shop. [laughs] [laughter] 00:00:48.743 --> 00:00:51.549 M: Very smart. Very good, okay. Q: Maybe. 00:00:51.549 --> 00:00:54.964 M: So you come for some emptiness. [laughs] 00:00:54.964 --> 00:00:57.455 [laughter] Okay. 00:00:57.455 --> 00:01:01.500 Q: I just feel it's easy to miss this one. 00:01:01.500 --> 00:01:05.860 M: Empty shop you cannot buy. You can only Be. 00:01:07.860 --> 00:01:09.858 There's nothing to purchase. 00:01:09.858 --> 00:01:14.409 It's a good title 'Come to empty shop'. [laughter] 00:01:14.409 --> 00:01:18.559 Thieves in an empty house. 00:01:26.700 --> 00:01:29.432 I want to use it. I want you to use this, 00:01:29.432 --> 00:01:36.150 why you use this example, empty, empty shop. 00:01:37.620 --> 00:01:44.220 M: What I feel is I cannot be, like I cannot be 100 percent sure 00:01:44.220 --> 00:01:49.700 if there is anything I'm not seeing. 00:01:49.700 --> 00:01:52.697 M: Yes. I don't know if I've ever met anybody 00:01:52.697 --> 00:01:56.420 a 100 percent sure of anything. 00:01:56.420 --> 00:02:00.740 Except that you are. 00:02:00.740 --> 00:02:04.270 Maybe this you can say you're sure of that you exist, 00:02:04.270 --> 00:02:11.470 and that you are experiencing or perceiving. 00:02:11.470 --> 00:02:15.382 You agree or not? You know that you are? Q: Yes. 00:02:15.382 --> 00:02:18.195 M: And that you are experiencing? Q: Yes. 00:02:18.195 --> 00:02:20.863 M: So only let's work with this then 00:02:20.863 --> 00:02:23.432 as everything else is traffic to this. 00:02:23.432 --> 00:02:26.310 So everything comes is being perceived. 00:02:26.310 --> 00:02:29.871 Comes and goes is being perceived. Why perceiving is here? 00:02:29.871 --> 00:02:33.280 Because you are here, you exist. Now we must look. 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:35.810 Leave everything that can come and go. 00:02:35.810 --> 00:02:40.567 Leave all of that now. Only you and perceiving. 00:02:40.567 --> 00:02:42.723 And of you and perceiving, 00:02:42.723 --> 00:02:47.403 which is most true, if one has to go? 00:02:57.530 --> 00:03:01.300 You say, 'I perceive,' I perceive. 00:03:01.300 --> 00:03:03.960 So, I perceive means every experiencing, 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:08.542 whatever is happening is perceived by this sense of 'I'. 00:03:08.542 --> 00:03:10.575 M: Yes? Q: Yes. 00:03:10.575 --> 00:03:14.730 M: So you could even say, 'I am not perceiving'. 00:03:14.730 --> 00:03:18.224 Which means I'm perceiving that I'm not perceiving. 00:03:18.224 --> 00:03:23.290 I'm going to keep it clean and simple. 00:03:27.570 --> 00:03:32.850 Speaker: Guruji, how about that you're perceiving emptiness? 00:03:35.160 --> 00:03:38.386 M: Just when you say, 'What is more true?' 00:03:38.386 --> 00:03:42.223 I don't remember exactly what you said, like, 'You're perceiving?' 00:03:42.223 --> 00:03:44.762 M: You know that you exist. Q: Yes. 00:03:44.762 --> 00:03:48.960 M: And that you are perceiving or experiencing your perceiving 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:52.970 through the senses or the mind. 00:03:52.970 --> 00:03:55.560 If some inner state or outer states, 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.700 that's being perceived by you. 00:04:00.700 --> 00:04:03.630 So everything that comes, can go. 00:04:03.630 --> 00:04:08.210 Mental states, emotional states, friends can come, 00:04:08.210 --> 00:04:11.266 people live, people stay, people die, 00:04:11.266 --> 00:04:13.670 you feel sickness, you feel healthy, 00:04:13.670 --> 00:04:17.530 you feel excitement, feel boredom, feel tired, feel energy, 00:04:17.530 --> 00:04:21.200 M: all this you perceive and they come and go. 00:04:21.200 --> 00:04:25.190 M: You who perceive them, 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:32.336 does that come and go? Is it personal? 00:04:32.336 --> 00:04:35.590 M: Also, personal states come. Q: Yes. 00:04:35.590 --> 00:04:40.070 M: So, that's also amongst the field of perceivable, isn't it? 00:04:40.070 --> 00:04:43.676 So even those things, and the feeling of 'I', 00:04:43.676 --> 00:04:48.490 and autobiography, your ideas about life, 00:04:48.490 --> 00:04:52.420 all of those personal things, they are also perceived. Okay. 00:04:52.420 --> 00:04:56.680 M: And they can change shape, and their change is also perceived. 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.681 So they cannot be that which perceives them. 00:04:59.681 --> 00:05:02.070 M: That's true? Q: Yes. 00:05:02.070 --> 00:05:06.640 M: That which is perceiving, is it 00:05:09.200 --> 00:05:13.860 material or immaterial? It's immaterial? 00:05:13.860 --> 00:05:16.270 Q: It's not material. M: It's not material. 00:05:16.270 --> 00:05:20.670 Q: I cannot say what it is. But I experience that ... 00:05:20.670 --> 00:05:26.100 M: Who is speaking now? 00:05:26.100 --> 00:05:29.199 M: It's not a trick question. Q: I'm looking. 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:33.670 M: Obviously, the response is coming so fluidly and so comfortably, 00:05:33.670 --> 00:05:38.492 there's no strain to comment that all these things are being perceived. 00:05:38.492 --> 00:05:41.510 And that whatever is perceiving 00:05:41.510 --> 00:05:46.110 itself cannot be perceived by quality. 00:05:46.110 --> 00:05:51.600 Is it male or female? Is it any of these things? No. 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:56.659 So, answers, responses are coming from there. 00:06:02.230 --> 00:06:06.300 So even the responses are coming and they are also perceived 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:10.988 pouring out of some, whatever, something, or no thing. 00:06:10.988 --> 00:06:15.765 Q: I don't know if it's pouring out of something. It's perceived. 00:06:15.765 --> 00:06:19.630 M: Okay, they are appearing also, they appear. 00:06:19.630 --> 00:06:24.870 So that which is perceiving them, what is to be said of that? 00:06:24.870 --> 00:06:28.060 Is it a structure or no structure? 00:06:28.060 --> 00:06:33.030 Q: It's no structure. M: Okay. 00:06:33.030 --> 00:06:37.271 M: Is that significant for you? Q: It is significant. It is. 00:06:37.271 --> 00:06:44.300 M: Okay. Where does the problem start, if one starts? 00:06:44.300 --> 00:06:48.419 M: Is it a new skill that you developed? 00:06:51.260 --> 00:06:55.700 And anyone can apply. It's not particularly to you. 00:06:55.700 --> 00:07:00.202 It's for anyone. For everyone there's a sense of 'I', 'I Am', 00:07:00.202 --> 00:07:03.794 but it's quickly given to the body, 'I am this person', 00:07:03.794 --> 00:07:07.590 'I'm from Germany', 'I'm from this place', 'I'm a doctor', 00:07:07.590 --> 00:07:11.440 'I'm this and that and that', is acquired, 00:07:11.440 --> 00:07:15.240 so it takes on the sense of being something identifiable. 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.180 But from your place, that is also a construct that is seen. 00:07:19.180 --> 00:07:22.370 The 'I' that is seeing them is not those things. 00:07:22.370 --> 00:07:25.632 You cannot say he's a doctor or a nurse, 00:07:25.632 --> 00:07:31.601 or it's 1.7 cm, 00:07:31.601 --> 00:07:37.440 170 cm, you know, he doesn't have any of those things. 00:07:37.440 --> 00:07:40.654 What is it like unto itself, 00:07:40.654 --> 00:07:43.819 if it doesn't connect with points of perception 00:07:43.819 --> 00:07:48.099 or things to perceive, by itself? 00:07:51.929 --> 00:07:54.290 Q: It's not bothered by anything. 00:07:54.290 --> 00:07:57.850 M: Yes. Okay, bring the things back. 00:07:57.850 --> 00:08:00.870 M: Is it bothered by them? Q: No. 00:08:00.870 --> 00:08:04.719 Q: It is, if identity is missed. 00:08:04.719 --> 00:08:08.409 M: If identity? Q: Is not seen. 00:08:08.409 --> 00:08:11.970 M: So, identity brings all the trouble then? 00:08:11.970 --> 00:08:16.350 Q: Identifying brings all the trouble, but for who? 00:08:16.350 --> 00:08:21.410 M: Ahh. Are are you asking me about that? [laughter] 00:08:21.410 --> 00:08:25.590 M: You have to find out. Right here is good. 00:08:27.370 --> 00:08:30.074 M: The trouble cannot be for that 00:08:30.074 --> 00:08:35.132 Q: which is not touched by it. M: Yes. 00:08:35.132 --> 00:08:39.330 M: Is 'that which is not touched by it' an object of perception? 00:08:39.330 --> 00:08:42.480 Q: No. M: Where is it? 00:08:45.170 --> 00:08:47.922 Q: It has no location. 00:08:49.592 --> 00:08:52.400 M: It has no problem. Q: It has no problem. 00:08:52.400 --> 00:08:57.930 M: Let's go to where the problems are. 00:08:57.930 --> 00:09:01.776 Why are you trying to solve a thing that has no problem? 00:09:01.776 --> 00:09:05.120 Q: 'Why try to solve a thing that has no problem?' 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:08.120 M: Yes. It has no problem! [laughter] 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:10.831 So where will we go now to find a problem? 00:09:10.831 --> 00:09:14.050 It is good. It's fine! We're looking and it's good. 00:09:14.050 --> 00:09:17.780 I don't want to feel, 'Ah! Yes, end of thing, I go now.' 00:09:17.780 --> 00:09:21.600 Because problems begin somewhere 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:24.370 and everyone is troubled by it. 00:09:24.370 --> 00:09:29.440 Who is the everyone, you must also find. 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:35.610 It appears that you are no one, and you are someone. 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.847 In this receding you come to, 00:09:49.847 --> 00:09:55.970 'Ah, actually, I am here. 'I', but 'I' as what is here?' 00:09:55.970 --> 00:09:59.060 Well, it's certainly not the person. 00:09:59.060 --> 00:10:03.563 It's not male or female. Or it's not Muslim or Christian. 00:10:03.563 --> 00:10:07.958 It's something, something, nothing about it. 00:10:07.958 --> 00:10:10.488 M: Is it a valuable discovery? Q: Yes. 00:10:10.488 --> 00:10:14.630 M: Yes. So that's not where problems are. Q: No. 00:10:14.630 --> 00:10:17.560 M: Okay. So where problems come 00:10:17.560 --> 00:10:20.594 is in the place of identity ... Q: Yes. 00:10:20.594 --> 00:10:24.380 M: ...where I am someone. Q: Yes. 00:10:26.310 --> 00:10:30.544 M: Is there a way that this sense of being someone, 00:10:30.544 --> 00:10:34.180 how does that look now from the place of your discovery? 00:10:34.180 --> 00:10:37.150 'Fundamentally, I am not any of these things 00:10:37.150 --> 00:10:39.610 that have been spoken of.' 00:10:39.610 --> 00:10:46.356 How does the things, the world of things, what is their value? 00:10:46.356 --> 00:10:48.640 They don't impact upon this, 00:10:48.640 --> 00:10:51.970 but somehow this must be the cause of them playing, 00:10:51.970 --> 00:10:54.860 and here the sense 'I' is also there, 00:10:54.860 --> 00:10:59.776 and a very familiar feeling of 'I'. But is it stable? 00:10:59.776 --> 00:11:03.420 Is it always constant, this 'I', now, the second 'I'? 00:11:03.420 --> 00:11:07.108 Q: The moving 'I' is not constant. M: Yes, yes. 00:11:07.108 --> 00:11:11.880 M: So is it not the moving 'I' who came to satsang? 00:11:11.880 --> 00:11:14.210 Q: Yes. M: Yes. 00:11:17.380 --> 00:11:22.660 M: Because what? It cannot control its world. 00:11:24.620 --> 00:11:30.303 Q: And it's good it cannot, because it wouldn't ... 00:11:30.303 --> 00:11:34.768 it wouldn't find out what it really is if it could control anything. 00:11:34.768 --> 00:11:40.060 Like if there wouldn't be this trouble and this pain in this identifying, 00:11:40.060 --> 00:11:43.470 there would be no urge to ... 00:11:43.470 --> 00:11:48.130 M: So it must have an urge. It must have a drive. 00:11:48.130 --> 00:11:53.719 What is the drive of this 'I' which is the 'I'-person? 00:11:53.719 --> 00:11:55.720 Because all the human beings, 00:11:55.720 --> 00:12:03.610 we have this mask or sickness of 'I'-me, 'I'-me. 00:12:03.610 --> 00:12:07.200 What is the 'I'-me really in search of? 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.908 Everybody can take this. 00:12:09.908 --> 00:12:16.088 The 'I'-me, is it quiet and content and happily 'I'-me? 00:12:16.088 --> 00:12:19.130 No. So what does it want? 00:12:19.130 --> 00:12:22.200 Speaker: Probably, to be free of suffering. 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.520 M: It's to be free of suffering. 00:12:24.520 --> 00:12:29.040 Only you? Only you? Oh, okay, okay. To be free of suffering. 00:12:29.040 --> 00:12:32.900 M: What is it suffering from? Group: It's projection. 00:12:32.900 --> 00:12:36.578 M: It's projection. It's projection. Da da da ... 00:12:36.578 --> 00:12:41.290 We're in common ground now. It's having some suffering. 00:12:41.290 --> 00:12:43.550 Q: But I'm not sure that this 'I', 00:12:43.550 --> 00:12:47.471 like this identified one wants to be at peace. 00:12:47.471 --> 00:12:49.669 M: Wants to be? Q: At peace. 00:12:49.669 --> 00:12:53.070 M: Doesn't want to be at peace? Q: I'm not sure about that. 00:12:53.070 --> 00:12:55.420 M: You speaking now are not that. 00:12:55.420 --> 00:12:58.664 M: Is that what you're saying? Q: Not being ...? 00:12:58.664 --> 00:13:03.770 M: Not the person, you're not sure the person self is really ... da da da. 00:13:03.770 --> 00:13:08.130 Who is speaking now? Just to be clear and look. 00:13:08.130 --> 00:13:10.250 You're looking from where? 00:13:10.250 --> 00:13:15.160 From an identified place or a not identified place? 00:13:15.160 --> 00:13:21.466 There is a feeling 'I Am', I call it consciousness, 00:13:21.466 --> 00:13:25.210 that 'I Am'-ness without strong identification 00:13:25.210 --> 00:13:31.480 with the personal sense, that is, 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:34.554 let me call it the Brahman for the moment, 00:13:34.554 --> 00:13:38.410 only because I can I have another word called Parabrahman. 00:13:38.410 --> 00:13:42.345 Could you understand? All right. So it is the consciousness. 00:13:42.345 --> 00:13:45.367 It is the guru state of being, 00:13:45.367 --> 00:13:48.147 which is there for all, for everybody. 00:13:48.147 --> 00:13:51.635 It is that in which the world of person and its world 00:13:51.635 --> 00:13:54.751 and all of this is seen from here, 00:13:54.751 --> 00:13:57.880 but is not disturbed by that. 00:13:57.880 --> 00:14:01.710 And from this place, 'I Am' has the power, 00:14:01.710 --> 00:14:06.845 by looking into the realm of the 'I'-me and the 'I'-person, 00:14:06.845 --> 00:14:11.281 imparts some grace to it. As in the form of the 'I'-person ... 00:14:11.281 --> 00:14:14.850 Are we following? It's good? In the form of the 'I'-person 00:14:14.850 --> 00:14:18.430 it is still consciousness, it's a mode of consciousness. 00:14:18.430 --> 00:14:22.178 And that sense of being, if you want to call it a soul ... 00:14:22.178 --> 00:14:25.510 Are we alright for the moment? Just working words. 00:14:25.510 --> 00:14:31.553 The soul, it has different characteristics. 00:14:31.553 --> 00:14:35.554 In India, they speak of the different gunas, 00:14:35.554 --> 00:14:38.090 which are kind of energetic qualities 00:14:38.090 --> 00:14:42.086 that affect the soul, some soul tendency. 00:14:42.086 --> 00:14:46.000 Q: Sorry, but the soul you call the person now? Or what? 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:49.275 M: Yes. Let me just continue and then you'll see. 00:14:49.275 --> 00:14:53.680 M: So then, the sense of being somebody, 00:14:53.680 --> 00:14:57.016 an entity with the characteristic, with a history, 00:14:57.016 --> 00:15:00.251 with association, with parents, with family, 00:15:00.251 --> 00:15:04.393 with all of these things, self description, 00:15:04.393 --> 00:15:07.255 that makes you uniquely you. 00:15:07.255 --> 00:15:10.190 At least, for the time being 00:15:10.190 --> 00:15:14.040 because also you keep changing what you say about yourself. 00:15:14.040 --> 00:15:18.380 If you keep on writing an autobiography over a period of 20 years, 00:15:18.380 --> 00:15:22.400 it's going to keep changing. So the person is not stable. 00:15:22.400 --> 00:15:24.800 Whereas the 'I Am', which generates 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:27.840 the projection of the mind and person ... 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:33.280 I'm going to call person and mind similar, for the moment. 00:15:33.280 --> 00:15:38.010 If you want me to cover because it's good if you understand this thing, 00:15:38.010 --> 00:15:40.640 then it becomes more clear, no? 00:15:40.640 --> 00:15:47.710 So the personal state of consciousness 00:15:47.710 --> 00:15:51.246 is where all the conflicts can come, desire can come. 00:15:51.246 --> 00:15:55.382 Pain, life, death, you, me, this, that, up, down, heaven, hell, 00:15:55.382 --> 00:15:58.710 all these things are in there for the person. 00:15:58.710 --> 00:16:01.674 It's never a stable environment. 00:16:01.674 --> 00:16:04.870 And even unto itself, with nothing to interfere, 00:16:04.870 --> 00:16:07.100 it interferes with itself. 00:16:07.100 --> 00:16:09.893 It also suffers from its own, 'I'm lonely, 00:16:09.893 --> 00:16:14.810 I don't know what I'm going to do.' So it's never without trouble. 00:16:14.810 --> 00:16:20.832 But as it's also on a journey of this world, as we know it, 00:16:20.832 --> 00:16:25.100 each one is on a journey of Self-discovery. 00:16:25.100 --> 00:16:27.760 It may not be conscious of it like that. 00:16:27.760 --> 00:16:32.349 For a while our urge for discovering things can be merely phenomenal. 00:16:32.349 --> 00:16:35.855 Like, I want to be a lawyer or a doctor, to be famous, 00:16:35.855 --> 00:16:38.915 I want to be a singer, I want to be something, 00:16:38.915 --> 00:16:43.500 and all this produces fruit. It's a power, it produces fruit. 00:16:43.500 --> 00:16:47.780 You may indeed become famous or rich, all these kinds of things. 00:16:47.780 --> 00:16:51.539 But we are discovering, even those who became very rich, 00:16:51.539 --> 00:16:54.851 at some point they're not satisfied with being rich 00:16:54.851 --> 00:16:57.370 as the whole system is built like that. 00:16:57.370 --> 00:17:00.780 You can never be really satisfied, 00:17:00.780 --> 00:17:05.580 really genuinely satisfied, until you're home. 00:17:05.580 --> 00:17:08.900 And 'home' means to awaken to your True nature, 00:17:08.900 --> 00:17:11.770 which is not somewhere else, not over there, 00:17:11.770 --> 00:17:16.380 it's like peeling away, no? 00:17:20.540 --> 00:17:23.691 So my way of looking at it is that 00:17:23.691 --> 00:17:29.818 the person is the one who takes the journey of life. 00:17:29.818 --> 00:17:31.836 And I would not say... 00:17:31.836 --> 00:17:34.866 In Advaita thought the person doesn't exist, 00:17:34.866 --> 00:17:39.590 the mind doesn't exist, the world doesn't exist, and ultimately it is true, 00:17:39.590 --> 00:17:42.855 but you must understand in what light it is true. 00:17:42.855 --> 00:17:47.958 Because when you say to beings who have a strong idea of self 00:17:47.958 --> 00:17:52.623 and who have a philosophy, have relief, have belief, all these things, 00:17:52.623 --> 00:17:54.904 'It's not true, it doesn't exist', 00:17:54.904 --> 00:17:58.760 it's very hurtful, 'You don't know what you're saying!' 00:17:58.760 --> 00:18:03.150 Some can adopt that thing and indeed learn and take that attitude, 00:18:03.150 --> 00:18:07.831 but inside it's not true. Something has to be clear. 00:18:07.831 --> 00:18:14.050 So the sense of being someone, it is consciousness. 00:18:14.050 --> 00:18:16.794 When you say 'I', when you feel 'I', 00:18:16.794 --> 00:18:21.299 because nobody gave you 'I'. Everything else you receive. 00:18:21.299 --> 00:18:25.558 Nobody, not your parents didn't say, 'I'm going to name you "I".' 00:18:25.558 --> 00:18:30.520 And yet all the beings have this intuitive self-reference of 'I'. 00:18:30.520 --> 00:18:33.520 Not the English version. 00:18:33.520 --> 00:18:36.250 So even mosquitoes have a feeling of 'I'. 00:18:36.250 --> 00:18:40.410 'I' points to existence, 'I'-exist. That's what it really means. 00:18:40.410 --> 00:18:44.060 But 'I'-person very rarely touchs on this root 00:18:44.060 --> 00:18:48.830 that it means existence and that it is conscious. 00:18:48.830 --> 00:18:53.326 It doesn't even know that it cannot die as consciousness. 00:18:53.326 --> 00:18:56.010 Consciousness cannot die. 00:18:56.010 --> 00:19:00.210 But its belief 'I am the body' can die. 00:19:00.210 --> 00:19:05.481 But doesn't mean It dies. The body will die. 00:19:05.481 --> 00:19:07.790 But what you 'are' cannot die, 00:19:07.790 --> 00:19:11.750 it will just transfer for more experiencing 00:19:11.750 --> 00:19:14.520 if there's more things to experience. 00:19:14.520 --> 00:19:19.300 So this urge inside with different beings in different bodies, 00:19:19.300 --> 00:19:22.890 like identities in different bodies, are on a journey, 00:19:22.890 --> 00:19:24.895 depending upon your maturity. 00:19:24.895 --> 00:19:27.200 Some people only want to be famous, 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.462 or, 'I want 5 children, I want a beautiful house, 00:19:30.462 --> 00:19:33.286 I want enough money to do what I want'. 00:19:33.286 --> 00:19:37.680 Those desires are permitted by Parabrahman, by Paramatman. 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:39.988 That life gives life in this. 00:19:39.988 --> 00:19:43.418 All desires can be had, good and bad. 00:19:43.418 --> 00:19:46.300 And it will help you to fulfil your desires. 00:19:46.300 --> 00:19:49.065 Even a thief, He wants you to be a better thief. 00:19:49.065 --> 00:19:51.855 It gives the power to learn to be a better thief! 00:19:51.855 --> 00:19:55.888 Because God has a use for you as a great thief. [laughter] 00:19:55.888 --> 00:19:59.160 Because He is going to perfect the other ones, 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.490 who may be somewhere more evolved with your thievery. 00:20:03.490 --> 00:20:08.840 They need this thievery to move on even more. 00:20:08.840 --> 00:20:14.080 The whole thing is beautifully managed [laughter] 00:20:14.080 --> 00:20:17.520 by Paramatman taking care of all things. 00:20:17.520 --> 00:20:21.120 Not one thing goes missing. Not only for human beings, 00:20:21.120 --> 00:20:24.928 the ant kingdom, the bee kingdom, 00:20:24.928 --> 00:20:30.683 the horse and every kingdom, He is the God of all of them. 00:20:30.683 --> 00:20:34.100 They have their rules. They have their philosophies. 00:20:34.100 --> 00:20:37.770 They have their ways. They have their likes and dislikes. 00:20:37.770 --> 00:20:40.521 They have their urges and their suffering. 00:20:40.521 --> 00:20:43.240 Everything is evolving somehow. 00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:46.360 Let's stick to our world for a little bit. Okay? 00:20:46.360 --> 00:20:49.388 So in our world, this urge is there, 00:20:49.388 --> 00:20:51.950 and for a while, depending upon ... 00:20:51.950 --> 00:20:56.787 because not all the beings are at the same level of maturity. 00:20:56.787 --> 00:21:00.949 He made it like that. He didn't say, all who are mature go here 00:21:00.949 --> 00:21:05.230 and all of you mature [go here.] No, He mixes up. And we fight. 00:21:05.230 --> 00:21:08.370 But we need it also. 00:21:08.370 --> 00:21:12.130 I'm saying this so that you don't complain about your life. 00:21:12.130 --> 00:21:15.390 Everything that's sent to you, if you take it only as, 00:21:15.390 --> 00:21:18.850 'This thing happened to me, you didn't do anything about it.' 00:21:18.850 --> 00:21:20.952 Actually, you earned it. 00:21:20.952 --> 00:21:23.880 You have to make use of the experience of it 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.750 to transcend in yourself. 00:21:26.750 --> 00:21:29.397 As you transcend in yourself 00:21:29.397 --> 00:21:32.870 your light becomes light for others also. 00:21:32.870 --> 00:21:36.637 But don't think like that, 'I, my light ...' [laughter] 00:21:36.637 --> 00:21:39.738 You understand? 00:21:39.738 --> 00:21:42.020 If you have this attitude, okay. 00:21:42.020 --> 00:21:46.160 But somehow this is needed, it's pointing out something. 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:49.189 Rather than 'Oh, they are attacking me ...' 00:21:49.189 --> 00:21:53.060 The self as a person is also very myopic 00:21:53.060 --> 00:21:55.214 and very self protecting. 00:21:55.214 --> 00:21:59.700 That's why he doesn't grow so quick because it feels vulnerable. 00:21:59.700 --> 00:22:03.182 And when you're vulnerable it locks in 00:22:03.182 --> 00:22:05.627 and 'pew pew'. [shoots] It locks in. 00:22:05.627 --> 00:22:10.219 When you see these things, you realise, 'But a deeper consciousness ...' 00:22:10.219 --> 00:22:13.900 She's just been speaking from this deeper consciousness, 00:22:13.900 --> 00:22:16.930 in which the sense of the person and its world 00:22:16.930 --> 00:22:19.110 are seen with more detachment. 00:22:19.110 --> 00:22:24.220 You say, 'But I speak with you ... But from here, I'm actually just fine'. 00:22:24.220 --> 00:22:28.660 What do you want? What do you need? 00:22:28.660 --> 00:22:32.390 What is your problem? 'Actually, here, nothing actually'. 00:22:32.390 --> 00:22:35.190 For problem, I have to go back over there. 00:22:35.190 --> 00:22:38.261 And over there is in the state of the person 00:22:38.261 --> 00:22:41.526 and my neighbours and my relationship and things, 00:22:41.526 --> 00:22:45.811 and I get enough money and ... This is the woes of the person. 00:22:45.811 --> 00:22:49.099 They are here to make you grow, to help you. 00:22:49.099 --> 00:22:52.140 When you see and understand this a little bit, 00:22:52.140 --> 00:22:57.397 you don't get angry, 'Oh, they are the cause.' But you use it. 00:22:57.397 --> 00:23:03.624 But when you come here, I want to fast forward! Which you can. 00:23:03.624 --> 00:23:05.900 You can go tick tock, tick tock. 00:23:05.900 --> 00:23:10.120 Or you can somehow come into big seeing. 00:23:10.120 --> 00:23:16.500 You can travel in footsteps or you can travel by galaxies. 00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:20.601 So here, I feel, and I assume, you may correct me, 00:23:20.601 --> 00:23:24.435 that when you come here, there is within the capacity 00:23:24.435 --> 00:23:27.860 to 'phoo' flower into higher states. 00:23:27.860 --> 00:23:31.218 When you realise, 'I'm kind of wasting my time 00:23:31.218 --> 00:23:33.940 in the person quite a lot. 00:23:33.940 --> 00:23:38.650 Because now I'm aware of myself in consciousness, as consciousness'. 00:23:38.650 --> 00:23:40.675 And what happens by that? 00:23:40.675 --> 00:23:43.765 Well, as you learn to observe, as I've shown, 00:23:43.765 --> 00:23:47.310 learn to observe things more, as we're too identified, 00:23:47.310 --> 00:23:50.380 if you identify you slow down, and what happens? 00:23:50.380 --> 00:23:52.638 You start to accumulate concepts. 00:23:52.638 --> 00:23:55.100 And the more concepts you accumulate, 00:23:55.100 --> 00:24:00.890 the more opaque you become, the more solid, the more rigid. 00:24:00.890 --> 00:24:04.020 If you know people who have a pile of concepts, 00:24:04.020 --> 00:24:08.486 their concepts and your concepts can't dance. 'No, no, whoa.' 00:24:08.486 --> 00:24:11.880 Even family can be like this. 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:16.808 So what you will learn is, by observing with detachment, 00:24:16.808 --> 00:24:21.750 learning to look and see if you can catch this seeing 00:24:21.750 --> 00:24:24.460 where even your person, 00:24:24.460 --> 00:24:32.370 your person, the subject of all your world, is itself seen. 00:24:32.370 --> 00:24:35.699 When you can see, you can say, 'Whoa!' 00:24:35.699 --> 00:24:39.410 It's not just a world, but the personal self 00:24:39.410 --> 00:24:42.280 that has the reflection of that world. 00:24:42.280 --> 00:24:47.160 They are, when I say two sides of one coin, they go together. 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:51.801 Your mistake has been, you're identifying yourself and feeling, 00:24:51.801 --> 00:24:55.748 'But it's the world, everything is wrong there. It's not me.' 00:24:55.748 --> 00:24:57.950 What makes you do that is because 00:24:57.950 --> 00:25:00.920 also your person goes by the title of 'I'. 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:06.481 And 'I' means God. You understand? 00:25:06.481 --> 00:25:12.691 Your 'I' is consciousness, which is Godly principle. 00:25:12.691 --> 00:25:15.450 Then you understand this 'I', the 'I'-me, 00:25:15.450 --> 00:25:19.430 and the 'I'-I, or the 'I'-am', you see the difference. 00:25:19.430 --> 00:25:23.900 When we go into 'I'-me, all your life struggle, 'This I can't get', 00:25:23.900 --> 00:25:27.580 'this one is sick and ...' it is strong, it is strong. 00:25:27.580 --> 00:25:31.330 It didn't have its origin in one body life-form. 00:25:31.330 --> 00:25:34.112 It's been going on for a long time. 00:25:34.112 --> 00:25:38.360 But gradually it's growing through, what I call, the guna field. 00:25:38.360 --> 00:25:43.810 Gunas mean some energy which is tamasic guna. 00:25:43.810 --> 00:25:49.243 Means that when the entity of self is more resistant 00:25:49.243 --> 00:25:52.781 and more sort of easily troubled 00:25:52.781 --> 00:25:56.528 and full of identity and resistance, 00:25:56.528 --> 00:25:59.830 that's called tamasic guna, tama guna. 00:25:59.830 --> 00:26:03.640 Then the energy, the entity energy can also have 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.030 something you can call raja guna, 00:26:06.030 --> 00:26:09.570 means the soul is more energetic, it's full of desire, 00:26:09.570 --> 00:26:13.790 it wants to do things, it's adventurous, it has many ideas. 00:26:13.790 --> 00:26:18.212 And then, also, another guna called sattva guna. 00:26:18.212 --> 00:26:20.368 Sattva guna is more pure, 00:26:20.368 --> 00:26:24.160 meaning when the energy field is more attracted to spirit; 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:27.890 it wants to evolve in consciousness, it wants to realise. 00:26:27.890 --> 00:26:32.230 These gunas are playing within the beingness. 00:26:32.230 --> 00:26:36.470 Some gunas have more ascendance, strongerer in one. 00:26:36.470 --> 00:26:39.630 Another stronger in another one. Like this. 00:26:39.630 --> 00:26:42.140 So all of you, I say, 00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:48.040 you must be exhibiting some stronger sattva guna. 00:26:48.040 --> 00:26:53.290 But you have raja guna in there pulling at your tail. [laughter] 00:26:53.290 --> 00:26:58.910 And sometimes tamas guna, 'Uhh, tsk.' 00:26:58.910 --> 00:27:01.250 They're all part of it. [laughter] 00:27:01.250 --> 00:27:05.070 It's a kind of fun way of looking, no? 00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:08.382 It's not that funny, actually. [laughs] 00:27:08.382 --> 00:27:10.450 But we understand a little bit. 00:27:10.450 --> 00:27:14.970 So, somehow to come to satsang 00:27:14.970 --> 00:27:17.703 without anyone pressuring you to do that 00:27:17.703 --> 00:27:21.030 means your soul is attracted a bit towards it. 00:27:21.030 --> 00:27:24.690 And the more you find out, and not just intellectually, 00:27:24.690 --> 00:27:29.420 but begin to experience your understanding, experiential understanding, 00:27:29.420 --> 00:27:35.080 you're encouraged within yourself, you're falling in love. 00:27:35.080 --> 00:27:39.558 If you fall in love with someone and really falling in love deeply, 00:27:39.558 --> 00:27:42.081 you will require nobody to remind you 00:27:42.081 --> 00:27:44.651 to remember your beloved. 00:27:44.651 --> 00:27:48.429 The urge comes from inside, it's pulling, 00:27:48.429 --> 00:27:53.710 always, whatever you're doing you're thinking ... [laughter] 00:27:53.710 --> 00:27:57.440 So your own self, your own heart is becoming the beloved 00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:02.060 of your sense of your person. 00:28:02.060 --> 00:28:06.640 It's in the sattva guna, it's drawing more and more. 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:12.020 After sattva guna what happens? 00:28:12.020 --> 00:28:18.307 They call one state turiya, which means becoming clean, 00:28:18.307 --> 00:28:20.980 functioning more from consciousness. 00:28:20.980 --> 00:28:24.545 The lower states don't trouble you, they don't trouble. 00:28:24.545 --> 00:28:28.830 Identity doesn't trouble you. At some point it won't trouble you. 00:28:28.830 --> 00:28:31.366 People call you, 'So you're Paulette?' 00:28:31.366 --> 00:28:34.250 'Yes, it's my name'. You still use the name. 00:28:34.250 --> 00:28:38.750 When you wake up fully into yourself, you will not have to change name. 00:28:38.750 --> 00:28:42.429 You don't have to call yourself Parabrahman, 00:28:42.429 --> 00:28:44.539 or some wonderful name. 00:28:44.539 --> 00:28:46.870 You can still use your name. 00:28:46.870 --> 00:28:50.280 But you are not this name. 00:28:50.280 --> 00:28:55.410 You see, it's like, somehow, something's unfolding, 00:28:55.410 --> 00:28:57.730 and concepts don't stick with you. 00:28:57.730 --> 00:29:01.670 The more they don't stick with you, they're not so important. 00:29:01.670 --> 00:29:03.745 Then all is available for you. 00:29:03.745 --> 00:29:07.354 You can listen without having to decide, 00:29:07.354 --> 00:29:11.559 'I believe in this. What do you believe? What is your standpoint?' 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:17.320 It doesn't matter, actually, as you're in the All-ness of your being. 00:29:20.250 --> 00:29:24.630 Is it okay I'm talking like this? Let's clear the field. Okay. 00:29:24.630 --> 00:29:27.556 We're sweeping the house, so you understand. 00:29:27.556 --> 00:29:32.040 When you say, 'I don't know why I keep getting these things', 00:29:32.040 --> 00:29:37.405 that relationship building is sticky. 00:29:37.405 --> 00:29:41.654 I don't say, I'll show you how to solve that problem, that problem. 00:29:41.654 --> 00:29:43.840 I say learn something, 00:29:43.840 --> 00:29:49.770 learn to observe your sense of identity and its likes and dislikes, 00:29:49.770 --> 00:29:54.245 but with some distance learn. You can see. 00:29:54.245 --> 00:29:56.680 And learn to detach. 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:01.770 And what did I say? Should I say 99.9 percent 00:30:01.770 --> 00:30:04.936 of the things in the world does not trouble you? 00:30:04.936 --> 00:30:09.310 Means you can walk anywhere in the world and things don't go ... 00:30:09.310 --> 00:30:13.170 You can move. Natural detachment. 00:30:13.170 --> 00:30:18.450 But the 0.1 [laughter] of the things that matter. 00:30:18.450 --> 00:30:21.570 'Oh, yeah, but no, no, I don't like pink. 00:30:21.570 --> 00:30:25.407 Mmm-mmm. Not me. Mmm-mmm. I don't like this. 00:30:25.407 --> 00:30:28.350 Peacock feathers, oh, keep it away from me!' 00:30:28.350 --> 00:30:33.225 All this kind of stuff keeps you tied up into the shape of the person. 00:30:33.225 --> 00:30:37.500 You feel proud, 'I'm this kind of person. I'm not that kind of person'. 00:30:37.500 --> 00:30:41.950 You don't realise how we cheat 00:30:41.950 --> 00:30:47.320 and shrink from your beauty. 00:30:47.320 --> 00:30:52.040 All of this is you! 00:30:52.040 --> 00:30:56.818 You will never learn and really ... 00:30:56.818 --> 00:31:03.853 Love everyone! Even those not yet born, you love. 00:31:03.853 --> 00:31:09.960 'Oh, no, but I've never seen them. Oh, I didn't know.' No, no. 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:13.040 Understand? Because it's your nature. 00:31:13.040 --> 00:31:16.030 It's not just your choice. 00:31:16.030 --> 00:31:19.240 And so I say, what is the simple thing? 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.761 Learn to observe more and more 00:31:21.761 --> 00:31:24.691 with detachment, learn to see. 00:31:24.691 --> 00:31:28.080 The mind, the maya-mind says, 'That's wasting time, 00:31:28.080 --> 00:31:30.538 I don't get anything from doing that. 00:31:30.538 --> 00:31:35.330 I fall asleep whenever I try to look without attachment, I fall asleep. 00:31:35.330 --> 00:31:38.520 Even here when we do the 'Just Be' exercise ...' 00:31:38.520 --> 00:31:42.790 Ding dong! I say like this ... [mimics falling asleep] [laughter] 00:31:42.790 --> 00:31:46.590 Just woke up! [laughter] 00:31:46.590 --> 00:31:52.780 What is this? It is a kind of psychic resistance, it's in us. 00:31:52.780 --> 00:31:55.196 Something that is trying to resist 00:31:55.196 --> 00:31:57.970 from coming into the fullness of yourself. 00:31:57.970 --> 00:32:01.490 It's a force, this maya force is a little resistance. 00:32:01.490 --> 00:32:04.550 But don't be worried. It will soon change. 00:32:04.550 --> 00:32:09.110 The minute you begin to feel the darshan 00:32:09.110 --> 00:32:13.590 of your own heart, [deep breath] so much encouragement. 00:32:13.590 --> 00:32:16.800 But you must earn it. 00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:20.338 And what the teacher will do is teach this thing, 00:32:20.338 --> 00:32:24.460 but you have to be on board. 00:32:24.460 --> 00:32:28.340 You have to be on board. You have to be there. 00:32:28.340 --> 00:32:33.000 Because even greatest guru cannot help you if your heart's not on board. 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:36.076 You must work for it. And look what it is also. 00:32:36.076 --> 00:32:41.020 It's very mystical. But it's not difficult. 00:32:41.020 --> 00:32:43.160 The path has been made so clean. 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.890 The higher you go, the purer the climate, 00:32:45.890 --> 00:32:48.980 the simpler the advice, if you can take, 00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:51.220 but the stronger the resistance. 00:32:51.220 --> 00:32:54.391 Because your earth self 'arrgh' is fighting. 00:32:54.391 --> 00:32:58.530 It's lazy. 'Argh.' It's like this. You have to watch him. 00:32:58.530 --> 00:33:02.776 You have to learn to observe this, okay, and press on. 00:33:02.776 --> 00:33:05.780 And what you have, you may say at some point, 00:33:05.780 --> 00:33:10.620 'I have nothing to encourage me because my mind is just killing me.' 00:33:10.620 --> 00:33:15.500 And some people say, 'But Guruji told you to do.' 00:33:15.500 --> 00:33:18.260 'Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, I do.' 00:33:18.260 --> 00:33:20.913 Why? Because you have faith 00:33:20.913 --> 00:33:24.770 and faith enough to give you some strength, some courage. 00:33:24.770 --> 00:33:28.921 Then also life, the source, empowers you, 00:33:28.921 --> 00:33:32.613 because you chose, when you've chosen many things, 00:33:32.613 --> 00:33:35.610 you can keep on choosing many things in life, 00:33:35.610 --> 00:33:40.660 but you're choosing Supreme, 00:33:40.660 --> 00:33:45.600 you're choosing God-consciousness, you're choosing Self. 00:33:47.540 --> 00:33:52.580 When I speak like this, I get touched, you see? 00:33:52.580 --> 00:33:55.250 If you choose This, 00:33:55.250 --> 00:34:00.100 then you are really making use of this life-form. 00:34:00.100 --> 00:34:04.980 Because you can choose many things and they will delay you. 00:34:04.980 --> 00:34:08.266 And it's okay. You like this thing. You like that. 00:34:08.266 --> 00:34:10.600 It's freedom. It's okay, it's okay. 00:34:10.600 --> 00:34:15.280 But if you have in your heart this choice, 00:34:18.260 --> 00:34:23.060 then you have taken the highest choice. 00:34:23.060 --> 00:34:28.770 Then you will be tested and you must pass this test. 00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:35.809 And then all the grace of Parabrahman comes for you. 00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:41.640 If you say, 'I went around the corner, 00:34:41.640 --> 00:34:44.770 somebody went, 'Boo!' I don't want to go there', 00:34:44.770 --> 00:34:47.810 then you come, 'Guruji what is the highest?' 00:34:47.810 --> 00:34:52.089 I said, You didn't even pass the lowest! 00:34:52.089 --> 00:34:54.858 [laughter] 00:34:54.858 --> 00:34:56.860 M: You want the highest. 00:34:56.860 --> 00:35:00.860 I say, a little person comes, says, 'Look at you. Oh, no, no'. 00:35:00.860 --> 00:35:03.806 And you're ... [imitates crying] 00:35:03.806 --> 00:35:07.389 I say these small things, how are you going to overcome? 00:35:07.389 --> 00:35:11.878 By looking and learning to let the fear ... Don't try to stop the feelings. 00:35:11.878 --> 00:35:14.480 Let them come. Don't try and stop them. 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:18.920 What you need is not to stop them, but to have clear seeing of them. 00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.760 Just see that it's the life force. 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.104 The force of habit is playing and this is its domain, 00:35:27.104 --> 00:35:29.981 this is its sensors, [touches the body] 00:35:29.981 --> 00:35:33.360 it's playing in here and the mind is playing. 00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.580 And you say, 'But how I can see this? 00:35:36.580 --> 00:35:38.188 How come I'm seeing this?' 00:35:38.188 --> 00:35:42.668 Gradually, you stay in your satsang, you listen, you start to find, 00:35:42.668 --> 00:35:46.195 'Where there didn't seem to be a way, there is a way!' 00:35:46.195 --> 00:35:52.774 Which way is it? It's here, it's here, it's here. [points to heart] 00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:00.549 So, you just continue. Don't try ... 00:36:00.549 --> 00:36:04.162 If someone gets a bit hurt, you go try something else, 00:36:04.162 --> 00:36:06.342 you try something else and try. 00:36:06.342 --> 00:36:10.070 No, no. You must have some faith. 00:36:10.070 --> 00:36:13.272 If you don't have faith, you can pray, ask Baba, 00:36:13.272 --> 00:36:17.876 'Oh, Guruji, please, I want to believe, I trust, 00:36:17.876 --> 00:36:22.770 but I'm weak, please help me.' God's help comes. 00:36:22.770 --> 00:36:27.070 Help comes. Be humble. 00:36:27.070 --> 00:36:31.680 As you're growing, kindness is coming. Kindness is coming. 00:36:31.680 --> 00:36:35.288 Maybe you didn't realise how unkind your behaviour is. 00:36:35.288 --> 00:36:40.100 Selfishness is going. Empathy is coming. 00:36:41.830 --> 00:36:44.834 Spaciousness is coming. 00:36:44.834 --> 00:36:48.204 Heaviness is leaving. 00:36:50.630 --> 00:36:57.520 Unexpected boon and grace is flowing, 00:36:57.520 --> 00:37:01.980 seemingly undeserved, it's coming. 00:37:04.110 --> 00:37:06.109 Then, things that you feel, 00:37:06.109 --> 00:37:10.367 'But how did this come?' are coming. 00:37:10.367 --> 00:37:14.389 Then when you start to feel great, something goes, 'Ehh! Uhh!' 00:37:14.389 --> 00:37:17.913 That is coming also. Everything is coming. [laughter] 00:37:17.913 --> 00:37:22.499 You're going to give up. Like this it comes. 00:37:28.550 --> 00:37:35.950 I have a tremendous... I have in my heart I found 00:37:35.950 --> 00:37:39.150 the love for all the beings is there. 00:37:39.150 --> 00:37:41.520 I didn't work at it. 00:37:41.520 --> 00:37:47.317 You just stay open, you come to your natural love, 00:37:47.317 --> 00:37:50.470 your natural state is there. 00:37:50.470 --> 00:37:59.250 But the service to sangha, who, if I am right about it, 00:37:59.250 --> 00:38:08.820 are those I perceive to be on a higher journey of awakening, 00:38:08.820 --> 00:38:14.280 then this body, this life force is dedicated to that. 00:38:16.860 --> 00:38:19.050 It's dedicated to that. 00:38:19.050 --> 00:38:22.980 You will have troubles 00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:26.979 but you will overcome them. 00:38:31.200 --> 00:38:39.985 And the highest, clearest power in the universe has called you, 00:38:39.985 --> 00:38:42.905 [silence] 00:38:56.980 --> 00:39:01.489 and supports your seeing. 00:39:04.830 --> 00:39:11.050 Stop thinking of yourself as some petty little thing. 00:39:11.050 --> 00:39:15.769 But don't think of yourself as a great thing also. [laughter] 00:39:18.690 --> 00:39:20.880 Yeah. 00:39:23.930 --> 00:39:28.410 And the one thing that will be repeated: Don't give up. 00:39:28.410 --> 00:39:32.380 Keep looking and clarify your misunderstanding of you. 00:39:32.380 --> 00:39:35.910 Someone says, 'But I'm doing like this.' I say no, no. 00:39:35.910 --> 00:39:42.651 What I show, come now, you do. Look. Da da da da. Come. [exhales] 00:39:42.651 --> 00:39:45.450 Don't put this in your pocket. 00:39:45.450 --> 00:39:52.480 Put it in your heart and stay with it and increase in it. 00:39:54.930 --> 00:39:59.470 And so your autobiography that you write in your person, 00:39:59.470 --> 00:40:03.110 that will disappear. 00:40:22.455 --> 00:40:25.960 Group: Thank you. M: Thank you. 00:40:41.650 --> 00:40:44.354 M: What is happening also, is that, 00:40:44.354 --> 00:40:49.454 I'm finding more the ones, I just find them, 00:40:49.454 --> 00:40:55.020 we stay together, we look, and quickly from here, [indicates mind noise] 00:40:55.020 --> 00:40:59.260 just go down. [more silent] 00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:04.430 You want to come in with me, we go down. Stay. 00:41:04.430 --> 00:41:08.934 And all this mind stuff starts to 00:41:08.934 --> 00:41:12.600 just dry up very naturally. Just simple. 00:41:12.600 --> 00:41:15.526 I told you from the beginning it is simple, 00:41:15.526 --> 00:41:19.360 because you don't have to create your Self. 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.242 You can create a false self. 00:41:22.242 --> 00:41:27.672 But your True Self you can only discover. 00:41:27.672 --> 00:41:33.419 When you discover t, the discoverer merges in it also. 00:41:48.131 --> 00:41:51.790 Copyright 2025 Mooji Media Ltd. 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