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Your Own Heart is Becoming the Beloved

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26 January 2025[br](with subtitles)

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[Q.] I feel, sometimes you say,[br]we don't know how honest

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or how open we are. And I feel it.

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[Mooji] OK, you say, 'Sometimes we [br]don't know how open we are'.

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I'm a little bit with this.[br]But you're open enough to come here.

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[M.] You know what shop this is?[br][Q.] Yes.

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[Mooji] What shop is it?

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[Q.] The shop... Empty shop.

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[Mooji] Empty shop.[br][laughter]

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[M.] Very smart. Very good. OK.[br][Q.] Maybe.

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[Mooji] So you come for some emptiness. [br][laughs]

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[laughter]

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[Q.] I just feel it's easy to miss this one.

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[Mooji] Empty shop. You cannot buy.[br]You can only Be.

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There's nothing to purchase.

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It's a good title 'Come to empty shop'.

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Thieves in an empty house.

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I want to use it. [br]I want you to use this,

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why you use this example,[br]empty, empty shop.

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[Q.] What I feel is I cannot be, [br]like I cannot be 100 percent sure

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if there is anything I'm not seeing.

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[M.] Yes. I don't know if I've ever met anybody

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100 percent sure of anything.

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Except that you are.

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Maybe this you can say [br]you're sure of that you exist,

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and that you are experiencing or perceiving.

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You agree or not?

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[M.] You know that you are.[br][Q.] Yes.

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[M.] And that you are experiencing?[br][Q.] Yes.

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[M.] So let's work with this then

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as everything else is traffic to this.

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So everything comes is being perceived.

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Comes and goes is being perceived.

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Why perceiving is here?[br]Because you are here.

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You exist. Now we must look.

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Leave everything that can come and go.

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Leave all of that now.[br]Only you and perceiving.

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And of you and perceiving,

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which is most true, if one has to go?

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You say, 'I perceive,' I perceive.

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So, I perceive means every experiencing,

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whatever is happening is perceived [br]by this sense of 'I'.

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[M.] Yes?[br][Q.] Yes.

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[Mooji] So you could even say, [br]'I am not perceiving'.

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Which means I'm perceiving [br]that I'm not perceiving.

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I'm going to keep it clean and simple.

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[Speaker] Guruji, how about that [br]you're perceiving emptiness?

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[Q.] Just when you say,[br]'What is more true?'

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I don't remember exactly what you said, [br]like, 'You are perceiving'?

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[M.] You know that you exist.[br][Q.] Yes.

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[M.] And that you are perceiving[br]or experiencing your perceiving

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through the senses or the mind.

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If some inner state or outer states,

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that's being perceived by you.

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So everything that comes, can go.

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Mental states, emotional states,[br]friends can come,

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people live, people stay, people die,

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you feel sickness, you feel healthy,

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you feel excitement, feel boredom,[br]feel tired, feel energy,

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[Mooji] all this you perceive [br]and they come and go.

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[Mooji] You who perceive them,

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does that come and go?[br]Is it personal?

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[Mooji] Also, personal states come.[br][Q.] Yes.

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[Mooji] So, that's also amongst [br]the field of perceivable, isn't it?

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So even those things, [br]and the feeling of 'I',

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and autobiography, your ideas about life,

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all of those personal things,[br]they are also perceived. OK?

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[M.] They can change shape,[br]and their change is also perceived.

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So they cannot be that which perceives them.

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[Mooji] That's true?[br][Q.] Yes.

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[Mooji] That which is perceiving, is it

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material or immaterial? It's immaterial?

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[Q.] It's not material.[br][Mooji] It's not material.

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Q2: I cannot say what it is.[br]But I experience that ...

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[Mooji] Who is speaking now?

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[M.] It's not a trick question.[br][Q.1] I'm looking.

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[M.] Obviously, the response is coming [br]so fluidly and so comfortably,

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there's no strain to comment that

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all these things are being perceived,

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and that whatever is perceiving

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itself cannot be perceived by quality.

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Is it male or female? [br]Is it any of these things? No.

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So, answers, responses are coming from there.

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So even the responses are coming[br]and they are also perceived

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pouring out of some, whatever, [br]something, or no thing.

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[Q.] I don't know if it's pouring out [br]of something. It's perceived.

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[Mooji] OK. They're appearing also.

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So that which is perceiving them,[br]what is to be said of that?

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Is it a structure or no structure?

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[Q.] It's no structure.[br][Mooji] OK.

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[Mooji] Is that significant for you?[br][Q.] It is significant. It is.

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[Mooji] OK. Where does the problem start,[br]if one start?

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[Mooji] Is it a new skill that you developed?

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And anyone can apply.[br]It's not particularly to you.

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It's for anyone.[br]For everyone there's a sense of 'I', 'I Am',

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but it's quickly given to the body,[br]'I am this person',

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'I'm from Germany', 'I'm from this place',[br]'I'm a doctor',

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'I'm this and that and that', is acquired,

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so it takes on the sense [br]of being something identifiable.

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But from your place, [br]that is also a construct that is seen.

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The 'I' that is seeing them[br]is not those things.

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You cannot say he's a doctor or a nurse,

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or he's 1.7 cm,

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170 cm, you know,[br]he doesn't have any of those things.

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What is it like unto itself[br]if it doesn't connect with

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points of perception or things [br]to perceive by itself?

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[Q.] It's not bothered by anything.

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[Mooji] Yes. OK, bring the things back.

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[Mooji] Is it bothered by them?[br][Q.] No. It is ...

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[Q.] If identity is missed ...[br][Mooji] If identity ...?

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[Q.] ...is not seen.

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[Mooji] So, identity brings all the trouble then?

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[Q.] Identifying brings all the trouble,[br]but for who?

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[Mooji] Ahh. Are are you asking me?[br][laughter]

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[Mooji] You have to find out,[br]right here is good.

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[Q.] The trouble cannot be for that[br]which is not touched by it.

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[Mooji] Yes.

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[M.] Is 'that which is not touched by it'[br]an object of perception?

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[Q.] No.[br][Mooji] Where is it?

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[Q.] It has no location.

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[M.] It has no problem.[br][Q.] It has no problem.

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[Mooji] Let's go to where the problems are.

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Why are you trying to solve a thing [br]that has no problem?

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[Q.] 'Why try to solve a thing [br]that has no problem?'

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[Mooji] Yes. It has no problem![br][laughter]

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So where will we go now to find a problem?

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It is good. It's fine![br]We're looking and it's good.

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I don't want to feel, [br]'Ah! Yes, end of thing, I go now.'

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Because problems begin somewhere

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and everyone is troubled by it.

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Who is the everyone, you must also find.

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It appears that you are no one,[br]and you are someone.

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In this receding you come to,

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'Ah, actually, I am here.[br]'I', but 'I' as what is here?'

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Well, it's certainly not the person.

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It's not male or female.[br]Or it's not Muslim or Christian.

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It's something, something, nothing about it.

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[M.] Is it a valuable discovery?[br][Q.] Yes.

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[M.] Yes, OK. So that's not where problems are.[br][Q.] No.

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[Mooji] OK. So where problems come[br]is in the place of identity ...

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[Q.] Yes.[br][Mooji] ...where I am someone.

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[Q.] Yes.

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[Mooji] Is there a way [br]that this sense of being someone,

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how does that look now[br]from the place of your discovery,

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'Fundamentally, I am not any of these things

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that have been spoken of?'

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How does the things, the world of things,[br]what is their value?

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They don't impact upon This.

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But somehow this must be[br]the cause of them playing

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and here the sense 'I' is also there,

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and a very familiar feeling of 'I'. [br]But is it stable?

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Is it always constant, this 'I'?[br]Now, the second 'I'?

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[Q.] The moving 'I' is not constant.

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[Mooji] Yes. So is it not the moving 'I'[br]who came to satsang?

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[Q.] Yes.[br][Mooji] Yes.

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[Mooji] Because what?[br]It cannot control its world.

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[Q.] And it's good it cannot, [br]because it wouldn't ...

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it wouldn't find out what it really is[br]if it could control anything.

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Like if there wouldn't be this trouble[br]and this pain in this identifying,

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there would be no urge to...

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[Mooji] So it must have an urge.[br]It must have a drive.

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What is the drive of this 'I'[br]which is the 'I'-person?

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Because all the human beings,

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we have this mask or sickness [br]of 'I'-me, 'I'-me.

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What is the 'I'-me really in search of?

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Everybody can take this.

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The 'I'-me, is it quiet and content [br]and happily 'I'-me?

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No. So what does it want?

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[Speaker] Probably, to be free of suffering.

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[Mooji] To be free of suffering.

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Only you? Only you? OK, OK.[br]To be free of suffering.

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[Mooji] What is it suffering from?[br][Group] It's projection.

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[Mooji] It's projection. It's projection.[br]Da da da ...

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We're in common ground now.[br]It's having some suffering.

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[Q.] But I'm not sure that this 'I',

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like this identified one [br]wants to be at peace.

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[Mooji] Wants to be?[br][Q.] At peace.

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[M.] Doesn't want peace?[br][Q.] I'm not sure about that.

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M: You speaking now are not that.

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[M.] Is that what you're saying?[br][Q.] Not being ...?

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[M.] The person, you're not sure [br]the person self is really ... da da da.

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Who is speaking now?[br]Just to be clear and look.

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You're looking from where?

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From an identified place [br]or a not identified place?

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There is a feeling 'I Am',[br]I call it consciousness,

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that 'I Am'-ness without strong identification

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with the personal sense, that is,

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let me call it the Brahman for the moment,

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only because I can I have [br]another word called Parabrahman.

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Could you understand? OK. All right.[br]So it is the consciousness.

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It is the guru state of being,[br]which is there for everybody.

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It is that in which the world of person[br]and its world

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and all of this is seen from here,

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but is not disturbed by that.

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And from this place, 'I Am' has the power,

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by looking into the realm [br]of the 'I'-me and the 'I'-person,

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imparts some grace to it.

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In the form of the 'I'-person ...[br]Are we following? It's good?

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In the form of the 'I'-person[br]it is still consciousness,

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it's a mode of consciousness.[br]And that sense of being,

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if you want to call it a soul ...[br]Are we alright for the moment?

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Just working words.[br]The soul, it has different characteristics.

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In India, they speak of the different gunas,

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which are kind of energetic qualities

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that affect the soul, some soul tendency.

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[Q.] Sorry, but the soul [br]you call the person now? Or what?

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[M.] Yes. Let me just continue [br]and then you'll see.

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[Mooji] So then, the sense of being somebody,

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an entity with the characteristic,[br]with a history,

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with association, with parents, with family,

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with all of these things, self description,

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that makes you uniquely you.

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At least, for the time being

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because also you keep changing [br]what you say about yourself.

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If you keep on writing an autobiography[br]over a period of 20 years,

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it's going to keep changing.[br]So the person is not stable.

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Whereas the 'I Am', which generates

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the projection of the mind and person ...

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I'm going to call person and mind similar, [br]for the moment.

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If you want me to cover because [br]it's good if you understand this thing,

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then it becomes more clear, no?

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So the personal state of consciousness

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is where all the conflicts can come,[br]desire can come.

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Pain, life, death, you, me,[br]this, that, up, down, heaven, hell,

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all these things are in there for the person.

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It's never a stable environment.

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And even unto itself, [br]with nothing to interfere,

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it interferes with itself.

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It also suffers from its own, 'I'm lonely,

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I don't know what I'm going to do.'[br]So it's never without trouble.

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But as it's also on a journey [br]of this world, as we know it,

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each one is on a journey of Self-discovery.

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It may not be conscious of it like that.

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For a while our urge for discovering things[br]can be merely phenomenal.

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Like, I want to be a lawyer or a doctor,[br]to be famous,

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I want to be a singer, [br]I want to be something,

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and all this produces fruit. [br]It's a power, it produces fruit.

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You may indeed become famous or rich, [br]all these kinds of things.

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But we are discovering, [br]even those who became very rich,

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at some point they're not satisfied [br]with being rich

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as the whole system is built like that.

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You can never be really satisfied,

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really genuinely satisfied, until you're home.

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And 'home' means to awaken [br]to your true nature,

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which is not somewhere else,[br]not over there,

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it's like peeling away, no?

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So my way of looking at it is that

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the person is the one [br]who takes the journey of life.

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And I would not say...

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In Advaita thought the person doesn't exist,

0:17:34.866,0:17:39.590
the mind doesn't exist, the world doesn't exist, [br]and ultimately it is true,

0:17:39.590,0:17:42.855
but you must understand [br]in what light it is true.

0:17:42.855,0:17:47.958
Because when you say to beings [br]who have a strong idea of self

0:17:47.958,0:17:52.623
and who have a philosophy, [br]have relief, have belief, all these things,

0:17:52.623,0:17:55.980
'It's not true, it doesn't exist',

0:17:55.980,0:17:58.760
it's very hurtful, [br]'You don't know what you're saying!'

0:17:58.760,0:18:03.150
Some can adopt that thing [br]and indeed learn and take that attitude.

0:18:03.150,0:18:07.831
But inside, it's not true.[br]Something has to be clear.

0:18:07.831,0:18:14.050
So the sense of being someone,[br]it is consciousness.

0:18:14.050,0:18:16.794
When you say 'I', when you feel 'I',

0:18:16.794,0:18:21.299
because nobody gave you 'I'.[br]Everything else you receive.

0:18:21.299,0:18:25.558
Nobody, not your parents didn't say,[br]'I'm going to name you "I".'

0:18:25.558,0:18:30.520
And yet all the beings [br]have this intuitive self-reference of 'I'.

0:18:30.520,0:18:33.520
Not the English version.

0:18:33.520,0:18:36.250
So even mosquitoes have a feeling of 'I'.

0:18:36.250,0:18:40.410
'I' points to existence, 'I'-exist.[br]That's what it really means.

0:18:40.410,0:18:44.060
But 'I'-person very rarely touchs on this root

0:18:44.060,0:18:48.830
that it means existence [br]and that it is conscious.

0:18:48.830,0:18:53.326
It doesn't even know [br]that it cannot die as consciousness.

0:18:53.326,0:18:56.010
Consciousness cannot die.

0:18:56.010,0:19:00.210
But its belief 'I am the body' can die.

0:19:00.210,0:19:05.481
But doesn't mean It dies.[br]The body will die.

0:19:05.481,0:19:07.790
But what you are cannot die,

0:19:07.790,0:19:11.750
it will just transfer for more experiencing

0:19:11.750,0:19:14.520
if there's more things to experience.

0:19:14.520,0:19:19.300
So this urge inside, [br]with different beings in different bodies,

0:19:19.300,0:19:22.890
like identities in different bodies, [br]are on a journey.

0:19:22.890,0:19:27.150
Depending upon your maturity,[br]some people only want to be famous,

0:19:27.150,0:19:30.192
or want 5 children, want a beautiful house,

0:19:30.192,0:19:33.286
want enough money to do what I want.

0:19:33.286,0:19:37.680
Those desires are permitted [br]by Parabrahman, by Paramatman.

0:19:37.680,0:19:43.203
That life gives life in this.[br]All desires can be had, good and bad.

0:19:43.203,0:19:46.450
And it will help you to fulfil your desires.

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Even if you're a thief,

0:19:48.110,0:19:51.855
it will give you the power[br]to learn to be a better thief!

0:19:51.855,0:19:55.888
Because God has a use for you [br]as a great thief. [laughter]

0:19:55.888,0:19:59.940
Because He is going to perfect the other ones,

0:19:59.940,0:20:03.440
who may be somewhere more evolved[br]with your thievery!

0:20:03.440,0:20:08.840
They need this thievery [br]to move on even more.

0:20:08.840,0:20:14.080
The whole thing is beautifully managed[br][laughter]

0:20:14.080,0:20:17.520
by Paramatman taking care of all things.

0:20:17.520,0:20:21.120
Not one thing goes missing.[br]Not only for human beings,

0:20:21.120,0:20:24.928
the ant kingdom, the bee kingdom,

0:20:24.928,0:20:30.683
the horse and every kingdom,[br]He is the God of all of them.

0:20:30.683,0:20:34.850
They have their rules.[br]They have their philosophies.

0:20:34.850,0:20:37.800
They have their ways.[br]They have their likes and dislikes.

0:20:37.800,0:20:40.521
They have their urges and their suffering.

0:20:40.521,0:20:43.240
Everything is evolving somehow.

0:20:43.240,0:20:46.360
Let's stick to our world for a little bit. OK.

0:20:46.360,0:20:49.388
So in our world, this urge is there,

0:20:49.388,0:20:51.950
and for a while, depending upon ...

0:20:51.950,0:20:56.787
because not all the beings [br]are at the same level of maturity.

0:20:56.787,0:21:00.949
He made it like that. He didn't say, [br]all who are mature go here

0:21:00.949,0:21:05.230
and all of you mature [go here.] [br]No, He mixes up. And we fight.

0:21:05.230,0:21:08.370
But we need it also, you see.

0:21:08.370,0:21:12.130
I'm saying this so that [br]you don't complain about your life.

0:21:12.130,0:21:15.390
Everything that's sent to you,[br]if you take it only as,

0:21:15.390,0:21:18.850
'This thing happened to me,[br]you didn't do anything about it.'

0:21:18.850,0:21:20.952
Actually, you earned it.

0:21:20.952,0:21:23.960
You have to make use of the experience of it

0:21:23.960,0:21:26.750
to transcend in yourself.

0:21:26.750,0:21:29.397
As you transcend in yourself

0:21:29.397,0:21:32.870
your light becomes light for others also.

0:21:32.870,0:21:36.637
But don't think like that, 'I, my light ...'

0:21:36.637,0:21:39.738
You understand? [laughter]

0:21:39.738,0:21:42.020
If you have this attitude, OK.

0:21:42.020,0:21:46.160
But somehow this is needed,[br]it's pointing out something,

0:21:46.160,0:21:49.189
rather than 'Oh, they are attacking me ...'

0:21:49.189,0:21:53.060
The self as a person is also very myopic

0:21:53.060,0:21:55.214
and very self protecting.

0:21:55.214,0:21:59.700
That's why he doesn't grow so quick[br]because it feels vulnerable.

0:21:59.700,0:22:03.182
And when you're vulnerable it locks in

0:22:03.182,0:22:05.627
and 'pew pew'. [shoots] It locks in.

0:22:05.627,0:22:10.219
When you see these things, you realise,[br]'But a deeper consciousness ...'

0:22:10.219,0:22:13.900
She's just been speaking [br]from this deeper consciousness,

0:22:13.900,0:22:16.930
in which the sense of the person and its world

0:22:16.930,0:22:19.110
are seen with more detachment.

0:22:19.110,0:22:24.220
You say, 'When I speak with you from here, [br]I'm actually just fine.'

0:22:24.220,0:22:28.660
What do you want?[br]What do you need?

0:22:28.660,0:22:32.390
What is your problem?[br]'Actually, here, nothing actually.'

0:22:32.390,0:22:35.190
For problem, I have to go back over there.

0:22:35.190,0:22:38.140
And over there is in the state of the person

0:22:38.140,0:22:41.526
and my neighbours and my relationship [br]and things,

0:22:41.526,0:22:45.811
and I get enough money and ...[br]This is the woes of the person.

0:22:45.811,0:22:49.560
They are here to make you grow, to help you.

0:22:49.560,0:22:52.140
When you see and understand this a little bit,

0:22:52.140,0:22:57.397
you don't get angry, 'Oh, they are the cause.'[br]But you use it.

0:22:57.397,0:23:03.624
But when you come here,[br]I want to fast forward! Which you can.

0:23:03.624,0:23:05.900
You can go tick tock, tick tock.

0:23:05.900,0:23:10.060
Or you can somehow come into big seeing.

0:23:10.060,0:23:16.500
You can travel with footsteps [br]or you can travel by galaxies.

0:23:16.500,0:23:20.601
So here, I feel, and I assume,[br]you may correct me,

0:23:20.601,0:23:24.435
that when you come here, [br]there is within the capacity

0:23:24.435,0:23:27.860
to flower into higher states.

0:23:27.860,0:23:31.318
When you realise, [br]'I'm kind of wasting my time

0:23:31.318,0:23:33.940
in the person quite a lot.

0:23:33.940,0:23:38.650
Because now I'm aware of myself [br]in consciousness as consciousness'.

0:23:38.650,0:23:40.675
And what happens by that?

0:23:40.675,0:23:43.765
Well, as you learn to observe, [br]as I've shown,

0:23:43.765,0:23:47.940
learn to observe things more, [br]as we're too identified,

0:23:47.940,0:23:50.210
if you identify you slow down, [br]and what happens?

0:23:50.210,0:23:52.638
You start to accumulate concepts.

0:23:52.638,0:23:55.100
And the more concepts you accumulate,

0:23:55.100,0:24:00.890
the more opaque you become,[br]the more solid, the more rigid.

0:24:00.890,0:24:04.020
If you know people [br]who have a pile of concepts,

0:24:04.020,0:24:08.486
their concepts and your concepts [br]can't dance. 'No, no, whoa.'

0:24:08.486,0:24:11.880
Even family can be like this.

0:24:11.880,0:24:16.808
So what you will learn is,[br]by observing with detachment,

0:24:16.808,0:24:21.750
learning to look and see [br]if you can catch this seeing

0:24:21.750,0:24:24.460
where even your person,

0:24:24.460,0:24:32.370
your person, the subject of [br]all your world, is itself seen.

0:24:32.370,0:24:35.699
When you can see, you can say, 'Whoa!'

0:24:35.699,0:24:39.410
It's not just a world, but the personal self

0:24:39.410,0:24:42.280
that has the reflection of that world.

0:24:42.280,0:24:47.160
They are, when I say two sides of one coin,[br]they go together.

0:24:47.160,0:24:51.801
Your mistake has been, [br]you're identifying yourself and feeling,

0:24:51.801,0:24:55.748
'But it's the world,[br]everything is wrong there. It's not me.'

0:24:55.748,0:24:57.950
What makes you do that is because

0:24:57.950,0:25:00.920
also your person goes by the title of 'I'.

0:25:00.920,0:25:06.481
And 'I' means God. You understand?

0:25:06.481,0:25:12.691
Your 'I' is consciousness, [br]which is Godly principle.

0:25:12.691,0:25:15.450
Then you understand this 'I', the 'I'-me,

0:25:15.450,0:25:19.430
and the 'I'-I, or the 'I'-am',[br]you see the difference.

0:25:19.430,0:25:23.900
When we go into 'I'-me, [br]all your life struggle, 'This I can't get',

0:25:23.900,0:25:27.580
'this one is sick and ...'[br]it is strong, it is strong.

0:25:27.580,0:25:31.330
It didn't have its origin in one body life-form.

0:25:31.330,0:25:34.112
It's been going on for a long time.

0:25:34.112,0:25:38.360
But gradually it's growing through, [br]what I call, the guna field.

0:25:38.360,0:25:43.810
Gunas mean some energy [br]which is tamasic guna.

0:25:43.810,0:25:49.243
Means that when the entity of self [br]is more resistant

0:25:49.243,0:25:52.781
and more sort of easily troubled

0:25:52.781,0:25:56.528
and full of identity and resistance,

0:25:56.528,0:25:59.830
that's called tamasic guna, tama guna.

0:25:59.830,0:26:03.640
Then the energy, [br]the entity energy can also have

0:26:03.640,0:26:06.030
something you can call raja guna,

0:26:06.030,0:26:09.570
means the soul is more energetic,[br]it's full of desire,

0:26:09.570,0:26:13.790
it wants to do things, it's adventurous,[br]it has many ideas.

0:26:13.790,0:26:18.212
And then, also, another guna [br]called sattva guna.

0:26:18.212,0:26:20.368
Sattva guna is more pure,

0:26:20.368,0:26:24.160
meaning when the energy field [br]is more attracted to spirit;

0:26:24.160,0:26:27.890
it wants to evolve in consciousness,[br]it wants to realise.

0:26:27.890,0:26:32.230
These gunas are playing [br]within the beingness.

0:26:32.230,0:26:36.470
Some gunas have more ascendance,[br]strongerer in one.

0:26:36.470,0:26:39.630
Another stronger in another one. Like this.

0:26:39.630,0:26:42.140
So all of you, I say,

0:26:42.140,0:26:48.040
you must be exhibiting [br]some stronger sattva guna.

0:26:48.040,0:26:53.290
But you have raja guna in there [br]pulling at your tail. [laughter]

0:26:53.290,0:26:58.910
And sometimes tamas guna, 'Uhh, tsk.'

0:26:58.910,0:27:01.250
They're all part of it.[br][laughter]

0:27:01.250,0:27:05.070
It's a kind of fun way of looking, no?

0:27:05.070,0:27:08.382
It's not that funny, actually. [laughs]

0:27:08.382,0:27:10.450
But we understand a little bit.

0:27:10.450,0:27:14.970
So, somehow to come to satsang

0:27:14.970,0:27:17.703
without anyone pressuring you to do that

0:27:17.703,0:27:21.030
means your soul is attracted a bit towards it.

0:27:21.030,0:27:24.690
And the more you find out, [br]and not just intellectually,

0:27:24.690,0:27:29.420
but begin to experience your understanding,[br]experiential understanding,

0:27:29.420,0:27:32.260
you're encouraged within yourself,

0:27:32.260,0:27:35.080
you're falling in love.

0:27:35.080,0:27:39.558
If you fall in love with someone [br]and really falling in love deeply,

0:27:39.558,0:27:44.651
you will require nobody to remind you [br]to remember your beloved.

0:27:44.651,0:27:48.429
The urge comes from inside, it's pulling,

0:27:48.429,0:27:51.540
always, whatever you're doing, you're thinking.

0:27:51.540,0:27:53.710
[laughter] You see?

0:27:53.710,0:27:57.510
So your own self, your own heart [br]is becoming the beloved

0:27:57.510,0:28:02.060
of your sense of your person.

0:28:02.060,0:28:06.640
It's in the sattva guna,[br]it's drawing more and more.

0:28:06.640,0:28:12.020
After sattva guna what happens?

0:28:12.020,0:28:18.307
They call one state turiya,[br]which means becoming clean,

0:28:18.307,0:28:20.980
functioning more from consciousness.

0:28:20.980,0:28:24.545
The lower states don't trouble you,[br]they don't trouble.

0:28:24.545,0:28:28.830
Identity doesn't trouble you.[br]At some point it won't trouble you.

0:28:28.830,0:28:31.366
People call you, 'So you're Paulette?'

0:28:31.366,0:28:34.250
'Yes, it's my name'. You still use the name.

0:28:34.250,0:28:38.750
When you wake up fully into yourself,[br]you will not have to change name.

0:28:38.750,0:28:42.429
You don't have to call yourself Parabrahman,

0:28:42.429,0:28:44.539
or some wonderful name.

0:28:44.539,0:28:46.870
You can still use your name.

0:28:46.870,0:28:50.280
But you are not this name.

0:28:50.280,0:28:55.410
You see, it's like, somehow, [br]something's unfolding.

0:28:55.410,0:28:57.730
Concepts don't stick with you.

0:28:57.730,0:29:01.670
The more they don't stick with you,[br]they're not so important.

0:29:01.670,0:29:03.690
Then all is available for you.

0:29:03.690,0:29:07.354
You can listen without having to decide,

0:29:07.354,0:29:11.559
'I believe in this. What do you believe?[br]What is your standpoint?'

0:29:11.559,0:29:17.320
It doesn't matter, actually,[br]as you're in the All-ness of your being.

0:29:20.250,0:29:24.630
Is it OK I'm talking like this?[br]Let's clear the field, OK.

0:29:24.630,0:29:27.556
We're sweeping the house, so you understand.

0:29:27.556,0:29:32.420
When you say, 'I don't know why [br]I keep getting these things',

0:29:32.420,0:29:37.554
that relationship's building is sticky.

0:29:37.554,0:29:41.654
I don't say, I'll show you how[br]to solve that problem, that problem.

0:29:41.654,0:29:43.840
I say learn something,

0:29:43.840,0:29:49.770
learn to observe your sense of identity[br]and its likes and dislikes,

0:29:49.770,0:29:54.245
but with some distance learn. [br]You can see.

0:29:54.245,0:29:56.680
And learn to detach.

0:29:56.680,0:30:01.770
And what did I say?[br]Should I say 99.9 percent

0:30:01.770,0:30:04.936
of the things in the world [br]does not trouble you?

0:30:04.936,0:30:09.310
Means you can walk anywhere [br]in the world and things don't go ...

0:30:09.310,0:30:13.170
You can move. Natural detachment.

0:30:13.170,0:30:18.450
But the 0.1 [laughter][br]of the things that matter.

0:30:18.450,0:30:21.570
'Oh, yeah, but no, no, I don't like pink.

0:30:21.570,0:30:25.407
Mmm-mmm. Not me. I don't like this.

0:30:25.407,0:30:28.380
Peacock feathers.[br]Oh, keep that away from me!'

0:30:28.380,0:30:33.225
All this kind of stuff keeps you tied up [br]into the shape of the person.

0:30:33.225,0:30:37.500
You feel proud, 'I'm this kind of person.[br]I'm not that kind of person'.

0:30:37.500,0:30:41.950
You don't realise how we cheat

0:30:41.950,0:30:47.320
and shrink from your beauty.

0:30:47.320,0:30:52.040
All of this is you!

0:30:52.040,0:30:59.410
You will never learn [br]and really love everyone.

0:30:59.410,0:31:03.853
Even those not yet born, you'll love.

0:31:03.853,0:31:09.960
'Oh, no, but I've never seen them.[br]Oh, I didn't know.' No, no.

0:31:09.960,0:31:13.040
Understand? Because it's your nature.

0:31:13.040,0:31:16.970
It's not just your choice.

0:31:16.970,0:31:19.240
And so I say, what is the simple thing?

0:31:19.240,0:31:21.761
Learn to observe more and more.

0:31:21.761,0:31:24.691
With detachment, learn to see.

0:31:24.691,0:31:28.080
The mind, the maya-mind says, [br]'That's wasting time,

0:31:28.080,0:31:30.538
I don't get anything from doing that.

0:31:30.538,0:31:35.330
I fall asleep whenever I try to look [br]without attachment, I fall asleep.

0:31:35.330,0:31:38.520
Even here, when we do the 'Just Be' exercise ...

0:31:38.520,0:31:42.790
Ding dong!. I say like this ...[br][mimics falling asleep] [laughter]

0:31:42.790,0:31:46.590
Just woke up![br][laughter]

0:31:46.590,0:31:52.780
What is this? [br]It is a kind of psychic resistance, it's in us.

0:31:52.780,0:31:55.196
Something that is trying to resist

0:31:55.196,0:31:57.970
from coming into the fullness of yourself.

0:31:57.970,0:32:01.490
It's a force, this maya force.[br]It's a little resistance.

0:32:01.490,0:32:04.550
But don't be worried. It will soon change.

0:32:04.550,0:32:09.110
The minute you begin to feel the darshan

0:32:09.110,0:32:13.590
of your own heart, [deep breath][br]so much encouragement.

0:32:13.590,0:32:16.800
But you must earn it.

0:32:16.800,0:32:20.338
And what the teacher will do is[br]teach this thing,

0:32:20.338,0:32:24.460
but you have to be on board.

0:32:24.460,0:32:28.340
You have to be on board.[br]You have to be there.

0:32:28.340,0:32:31.210
Because even greatest guru cannot help you

0:32:31.210,0:32:34.550
if your heart's not on board.[br]You must work for it.

0:32:34.550,0:32:41.020
And look what it is also,[br]it's very mystical, but it's not difficult.

0:32:41.020,0:32:43.160
The path has been made so clean.

0:32:43.160,0:32:45.890
The higher you go, the purer the climate.

0:32:45.890,0:32:48.980
The simpler the advice, if you can take,

0:32:48.980,0:32:51.220
but the stronger the resistance.

0:32:51.220,0:32:54.391
Because your earth self 'arrgh' is fighting.

0:32:54.391,0:32:58.530
It's lazy. 'Argh.' It's like this, [br]you have to watch him.

0:32:58.530,0:33:02.776
You have to learn to observe this, OK,[br]and press on.

0:33:02.776,0:33:05.780
And what you have, [br]you may say at some point,

0:33:05.780,0:33:10.620
'I have nothing to encourage me [br]because my mind is just killing me.'

0:33:10.620,0:33:15.500
And some people say,[br]'But Guruji told you to do.'

0:33:15.500,0:33:18.260
'Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, I do.'

0:33:18.260,0:33:20.913
Why? Because you have faith

0:33:20.913,0:33:24.770
and faith enough to give you [br]some strength, some courage.

0:33:24.770,0:33:28.921
Then also life, the source, empowers you,

0:33:28.921,0:33:32.613
because you chose,[br]when you've chosen many things,

0:33:32.613,0:33:35.610
you can keep on choosing [br]many things in life,

0:33:35.610,0:33:40.660
but you're choosing Supreme,

0:33:40.660,0:33:45.600
you're choosing God-consciousness,[br]you're choosing Self.

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When I speak like this,[br]I get touched, you see?

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If you choose This,

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then you are really making use [br]of this life-form.

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Because you can choose many things [br]and they will delay you.

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And it's OK. You like this thing. You like that.

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It's freedom. It's okay, it's okay.

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But if you have in your heart this choice,

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then you have taken the highest choice,

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then you will be tested[br]and you must pass this test,

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and then all the grace of Parabrahman [br]comes for you.

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If you say,[br]'But I went around the corner

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and somebody went, 'Boo!'[br]I don't want to go there',

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then you come, 'Guruji what is the highest?'

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I said, You didn't even pass the lowest!

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[laughter]

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[Mooji] You want the highest.

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I say, a little person is saying,[br]'Look at you. Oh, no, no',

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and you're ... [imitates crying]

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I say these small things,[br]how are you going to overcome?

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By looking and learning to let the fear ... [br]Don't try to stop the feelings.

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Let them come. Don't try and stop them.

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What you need is not to stop them,[br]but to have clear seeing of them.

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Just see that it's the life force.

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The force of habit is playing[br]and this is its domain,

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this is its sensors, [indicates the body]

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it's playing in here[br]and the mind is playing.

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And you say, 'But how I can see this?

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How come I'm seeing this?'

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Gradually, you stay in your satsang,[br]you listen, you start to find,

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'Where there didn't seem to be a way,[br]there is a way!'

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Which way is it?[br]It's here, it's here, it's here. [points to heart]

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So, you just continue.[br]Don't try, if someone gets a bit hurt,

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you go try something else,[br]try something else and you try.

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No, no. You must have some faith.

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If you don't have faith, [br]you can pray, ask Baba,

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'Oh, Guruji, please, [br]I want to believe, I trust,

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but I'm weak, please help me.'[br]God's help comes.

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Help comes. Be humble.

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As you're growing, kindness is coming.[br]Kindness is coming.

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Maybe you didn't realise [br]how unkind your behaviour is.

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Selfishness is going.[br]Empathy is coming.

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Spaciousness is coming.

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Heaviness is leaving.

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Unexpected boon and grace is flowing,

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seemingly undeserved, it's coming.

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Then, things that you feel, [br]'But how did this come?' are coming.

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Then when you start to feel great,[br]something goes, 'Ehh! Uhh!'

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That is coming also. [br]Everything is coming. [laughter]

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You're going to give up.[br]Like this it comes.

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I have a tremendous...[br]I have in my heart I found

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the love for all the beings is there.

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I didn't work at it.

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You just stay open, [br]you come to your natural love,

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your natural state is there.

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But the service to sangha, [br]who, if I am right about it,

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are those I perceive to be[br]on a higher journey of awakening,

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then this body, this life force [br]is dedicated to that.

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It's dedicated to that.

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You will have troubles

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but you will overcome them.

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And the highest, clearest power [br]in the universe has called you,

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[silence]

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and supports your seeing.

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Stop thinking of yourself [br]as some petty little thing.

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But don't think of yourself [br]as a great thing also. [laughter]

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Yeah.

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And the one thing that will be repeated:[br]Don't give up.

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Keep looking and clarify [br]your misunderstanding of you.

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Someone says, 'But I'm doing like this.'[br]I say no, no.

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What I show, come now, you do. Look. [br]Da da da da. Come. [exhales]

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Don't put this in your pocket.

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Put it in your heart and stay with it[br]and increase in it.

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And so your autobiography [br]that you write in your person,

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that will disappear.

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[Group] Thank you.[br][Mooji] Thank you.

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[M.] What is happening also, is that,

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I'm finding more the ones,[br]I just find them,

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we stay together, we look,

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and quickly from here, just go down.

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You want to come in with me,[br]we go down. Stay.

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And all this mind stuff starts to

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just dry up very naturally. Just simple.

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I told you from the beginning it is simple,

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because you don't have to create your Self.

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You can create a false self.

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But your True Self you can only discover.

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When you discover t, [br]the discoverer merges in it also.

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