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Actor,

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comedian,

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writer,

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and rapper.

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My next guest does it all.

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Please welcome

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Childish Gambino.

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[Live music]

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I want to start,

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[laughter]

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okay, we'll let it sink in.

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[Laughter]

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A lot of Community fans here.

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[Cheering]

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I want to start there because

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whenever you part way with a project

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there's always misunderstandings.

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Yeah.

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And you wanna talk about why you left
and why you're not there.

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I'm, nah.

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I just, uh,

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I just wanted to do something else,
that was it.

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I don't think there's really
much more to it.

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I wish I could say, like,

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something other than that.

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But I just wanted to do other stuff,
other... other stuff.

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Yeah, and I guess on the internet
there were people wondering whether

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you left it for rapping, you talked about
how ridiculous that is.

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Yeah, well, that's the internet.

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You could say anything on there

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like, you could literally put in anything
about me and you will find proof

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of it if you want, I guess.

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But, like, you really can.

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But the... everybody thinks I'm
Danny Glover's son

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I'm not.

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[Laughter]

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But I mean, like, that's fair.

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But I... I think... yeah,
I just wanted to do,

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it wasn't rapping.

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Because I don't consider myself a rapper.

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I don't think Im a rapper.

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I'm... I can rap, but I don't think I'm
a rapper.

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I wanna do a bunch of stuff.

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So yeah, I think a lot of people thought
I was just leaving to like,

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be a rapper, but I think that's kinda dumb

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Yes.

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It's dumb! Because like, who wants to...
rappers don't wanna be rappers.

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[Laughter]

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They don't.

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No, it's true.

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Like, I've never, like every rapper I talk
to is like

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"I wanna do this, I wanna do that",

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they're usually artists who want to do
a bunch of stuff.

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You know, I don't think any rapper
wants to be just a rapper.

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And you are an artist, 
you do a lot of things.

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What do you put in the occupation box
when you file income taxes?

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Oh, I usually just put like N/A,
like not applicable.

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It's just like, I don't know what you
want me to say here,

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but whatever it is you'll figure it out.

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Yeah.

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Like I usually try to, yeah.

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We were kinda discussing social media.

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Your Instagrams get a lot of people's
attention.

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Especially when you shot photos of the
hotel paper.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I did that...

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I didn't think that was gonna be a big
deal at all.

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Like, I just was feeling some type of way

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and uh, I wrote it down.

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I mean, there were things like:

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"I hate caring what people think."

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I thought that was interesting.

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Yeah, I mean I care about what people 
think.

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Like, people are always talking about

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you know, you shouldn't care about
what people-

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but you should.

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Like, you really should.

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Like, if I sneeze in your face,
I shouldn't be like:

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"Ah, it's not me!"

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[Laughter]

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You should really care about...
it's always important to care what

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other people think, or how...
cause that's what connects us.

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I mean, I wanna do the best thing I can,

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but sometimes it stops like...

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you know, I'm insecure, I feel weird about
a bunch of stuff.

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I'm awkward about stuff.

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But I just, you know, I wish I didn't feel
that way so much that it'd stop me from

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doing what I really love doing.

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Because everybody's afraid,

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you know, everybody's so afraid now
of offending and being misunderstood

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and that's gonna happen

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[Cheering]

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so...

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One of the most interesting things about 
you as an entertainer is

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first of all, you're also a stand-up.

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I don't know anyone who raps and does
standup and...

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I mean, you do a lot of things.

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Pat Williams kind of does it.

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Yeah yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah, he kinda does it.

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Now, this is interesting.

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One of those things that was on Instagram
was,

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"I'm scared I'll be Tyrese".

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[Laughter]

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It was funny cause, like,

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I've had people come up to me and
be like,

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are you scared you'll wake up and 
one day you'll just be like,

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like a monster movie.

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But what I meant was, I'm surprised he
hasn't, like, said anything to me yet.

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I really feel like one day I'll wake up
and just like a transformer will just

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come through my room window and
just beat me up.

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But what I meant was,

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I just don't wanna be OK with right
where I'm at.

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I never wanna settle.

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I never wanna be like, just happy with
where I'm at.

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I always wanna be going for better.

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[Cheering]

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I just wanna always get better at stuff,
that's all I meant.

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I read a quote and I wanna make sure
you're quoted correctly.

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You said you never wanna work for anyone.

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Yeah, I don't want a boss.

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I don't think we need that.

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[Cheering]

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I mean, we live in a time now where
it's like easier now than ever

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to do anything, like I don't understand...

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Like, people come up to me like,

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how do I start making a movie?
Or how do I-

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I'm just like, you got a phone.

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Like, if I had a phone when I was like 7,

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Yeah.

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I would have made every movie I ever
thought-

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I just would be doing it all the time.

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I always try and get kids to learn how
to code, and like,

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I feel like coding is gonna be what 
keyboarding was when I was a a kid,

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when people were like,

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'You're not gonna need that,"

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now it's everything.

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Like, coding's gonna be like that,
3D printing, 4D printing,

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we need to learn that like,
how important we are.

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Cause like, we don't really feel important

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we don't feel like we can do those
things, like people are always

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asking me for permission, like,

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"Can I be a standup? Do you think-"

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I'm just like, if you- yeah!

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Who's stopping you?

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Nobody's stopping anyone anymore,
but we're afraid to move on.

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That's why there's so much, like,

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nostalgia on the internet.

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Everything is always like,

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"Remember Ninja Turtles?"

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Like...

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[Laughter]

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because we don't wanna look forward
because that's scary.

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Stuff is really scary, just like 
3D printed guns and stuff,

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it's scary.

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But we gotta move on,
it doesn't make sense to stay here,

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you know?

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I really feel like we gotta be better.