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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.00,0:00:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[People chanting numbers]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.04,0:00:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Philip: Bob was the first of us\Nto go to Broadway.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.02,0:00:14.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a short run,\Nbut it was Broadway.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.97,0:00:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, uh, it was very quickly after that\Nthat we began talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.27,0:00:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a piece, we didn't know\Nwhat the piece would be.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.92,0:00:28.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We came up with the title\N'Einstein On The Beach.'
Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.26,0:00:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Violin playing over operettic singing]
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.49,0:00:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought of Einstein as a God of our time.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.39,0:00:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know stories about him and we come\Nto the theatre sharing something together.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.59,0:00:49.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in a sense, uh, there was no need\Nto tell a story because we already
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.17,0:00:51.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knew a story.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.64,0:01:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How this man who, was a pacifist also,\Ncontributed to the splitting of the atom.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.64,0:01:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loud fast music]
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.12,0:01:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Einstein was a milestone in that it\Nbrought an even wider acclaim and
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.89,0:02:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gave him a whole new audience and\Ngave opera a whole new audience.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.71,0:02:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Fast violin over operettic singing]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.82,0:02:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's the first time in the history\Nof opera in which the opera
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.53,0:02:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,music was composed around\Nthe stage sets.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.06,0:02:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Fast violin over operettic singing]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.80,0:02:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Woman: I think I've seen Einstein\N40 times or something like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.03,0:02:39.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's one of the great theatre works\Nof the 20th century.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.56,0:02:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If Bob had done nothing but that,\Nand he's done so much more.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.74,0:02:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert: When we first made Einstein,\NI went to the Metropolitan Opera
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.55,0:02:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and asked them if they would do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.03,0:03:00.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to the National Endowment for\Nthe Arts and asked them if they would
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.58,0:03:03.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support an opera and they said,\N'that sort of thing should not be
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.33,0:03:06.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the conventional theatre,\Nyou should do that in a loft downtown.'
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.56,0:03:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I though, well, let's see.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.61,0:03:14.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it should be right in our major\Nopera houses, and everyone was afraid that
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.55,0:03:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we wouldn't get an audience.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.90,0:03:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There wouldn't be a public that would\Ncome for something like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.46,0:03:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the Met it wouldn't be for\N'their audience.'
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.36,0:03:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried everywhere to raise this money.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.15,0:03:27.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to Paris, France.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.100,0:03:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Einstein On The Beach,' it was\Na commission by Michel Guy,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.59,0:03:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was the Minister of Culture\Nat the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.45,0:03:39.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Philip: The word had gone out that there's\Nsomething unusual had taken place.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.07,0:03:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jane Hermon was in charge of\Nspecial events at the Met.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.21,0:03:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Jane Hermon came over to see the piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.16,0:03:53.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, 'well, maybe as a special event\Nwe could bring it to the Met.'
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.40,0:04:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert: But they wanted me, Robert Wilson,\NByrd Hoffman Foundation, to produce it
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.98,0:04:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on their day off!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.89,0:04:11.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would allow me to rent the house\Non a Sunday, with triple time wages!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.90,0:04:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was bankrupt, I had no money,\NI said, 'let's go for it.'
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.37,0:04:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Opera singing]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.07,0:04:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Benedicte: Phil, Bob, they were both\Nabsolutely dying to see the work seen by a
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.52,0:04:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,American public.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.08,0:04:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's fine for them to have the European\Npublic, but for an American it's
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.26,0:04:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not enough!
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.48,0:04:45.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They want the American, they want them\Nto recognize their work.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.39,0:04:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert: I sold tickets from $2 to $2,000.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.77,0:04:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We sold out in two days.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.86,0:04:57.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I put the $2 tickets\Nnext to the $2,000 tickets.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.62,0:05:08.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[From stage] This court of common pleas\Nis now in session!
Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.14,0:05:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Woman: We all went as a family and we \Nwere all quite impressed and, uh, I had
Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.56,0:05:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never been to the Met before and we were\Nsitting in like the directors box.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.20,0:05:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we all felt very special\Nand important.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.78,0:05:41.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Loud fast music]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.08,0:05:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father was a heavy smoker,\Nand Einstein was very long without
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.50,0:05:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an intermission.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.02,0:05:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my father sat there throughout the\Nwhole thing without getting up and taking
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.72,0:05:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a break, which was amazing.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.14,0:05:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, at the end of it when people\Nwere standing and clapping and cheering,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.45,0:06:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just looked at him and there was tears\Nand such pride in his face
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.69,0:06:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it was quite amazing.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.72,0:06:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Audience cheering and clapping]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.44,0:06:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,David: The fact that it was at the Met\Nwas a, really was downtown
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.92,0:06:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going very uptown.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.79,0:06:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was, uh, I think shocking for\Nmany people was to see the ideas
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.32,0:06:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the aesthetic, and, uh, the-\Nthese - I guess you could call them
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.87,0:06:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,downtown elements that Bob was\Nembodied in many ways, done with a
Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.14,0:06:58.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professionalism that equal to anything\Nelse on Broadway or at the Met Opera.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.92,0:07:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was- it was a way of saying\N'we are equal.'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.42,0:07:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert: My father said,\N'why, this is very impressive!'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.25,0:07:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said,\N'you must be making a lot of money!'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.30,0:07:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said\N'no dad, I'm not.'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.35,0:07:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, 'I produce this work,\Nit cost a million dollars to produce it.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.28,0:07:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I raised $850,000,\NI'm $150,000 in debt.'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.45,0:07:26.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'$150,000 in debt?'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.87,0:07:28.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, 'yes sir I am.'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.55,0:07:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, 'son, I didn't know you\Nwere smart enough to be able
Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.41,0:07:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to lose $150,000.'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.86,0:07:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's probably the nicest thing\Nhe ever said to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.70,0:07:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, 'dad, it wasn't easy,\Nit was a lot of work.'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.73,0:07:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really hard, you know.'
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.61,0:07:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Philip: We always think of fame\Nand fortune as of they go together,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.06,0:07:48.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they don't really.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.26,0:07:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fame may come first and\Nthe fortune may come and may not come.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.26,0:07:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eventually it can come, perhaps,\Nbut it doesn't always come.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.28,0:07:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, uh, Bob did something smarter than--\Nhe stayed in Europe.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.35,0:08:06.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The big success of Einstein was in Europe,\Nthere was no one in America
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.51,0:08:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that really wanted to work with Bob or me.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.28,0:08:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[People clammoring]