0:00:07.200,0:00:14.200 MEGYN KELLY: Joining me now 0:00:50.030,0:00:56.770 is someone who has thoughts about this and[br]warned about it, and that’s Texas Congressman 0:00:56.770,0:00:57.230 Ron Paul. 0:00:57.230,0:01:00.329 Congressman, thanks so much for being back[br]with us. You’ve had your eye on Greece for 0:01:00.329,0:01:03.560 a while now. This probably comes as no surprise[br]to you. 0:01:03.560,0:01:09.409 RON PAUL: No, not at all. And I think this[br]is just the opening of a much more serious 0:01:09.409,0:01:11.469 crisis than the financial crisis. 0:01:11.469,0:01:16.189 I think what we’re seeing is a shift from[br]the financial crisis, the financial institutions, 0:01:16.189,0:01:21.109 to a currency crisis. Even though the dollar[br]is up sharply today and has been up sharply 0:01:21.109,0:01:24.399 last week, I see this as an attack on the[br]dollar. 0:01:24.399,0:01:30.429 Because in terms of gold, the dollar has been[br]rampantly devalued and this means that gold 0:01:30.429,0:01:31.439 is acting as money. 0:01:31.439,0:01:35.649 They’re giving up on the paper currencies[br]and I think this country and the world is 0:01:35.649,0:01:40.499 in for big trouble because this is a currency[br]crisis and it’s much worse that having a 0:01:40.499,0:01:41.389 financial crisis. 0:01:41.389,0:01:44.609 MEGYN KELLY: You know they say that look,[br]what’s happening in Greece is one thing, 0:01:44.609,0:01:48.549 but if this expands to Europe and they’re[br]saying Portugal could be next, 0:01:48.549,0:01:52.829 the German chancellor says she’s very worried,[br]and that the European [Union] has to bail 0:01:52.829,0:01:56.130 out Greece because she’s worried about it[br]spreading to Europe, and there are other countries 0:01:56.130,0:01:58.759 that could follow, Spain and others. 0:01:58.759,0:02:03.359 If this becomes a European problem, it very[br]much becomes an American problem as well, 0:02:03.359,0:02:03.849 does it not? 0:02:03.849,0:02:09.599 RON PAUL: There’s no doubt about it. It[br]is a world problem and we’re going to be 0:02:09.599,0:02:14.290 the last one to fall because we have the dollar[br]and people still think that the dollar will 0:02:14.290,0:02:16.590 save everybody. 0:02:16.590,0:02:21.150 The dollar is going to have to bail out California[br]and so many other problems that we have here. 0:02:21.150,0:02:27.200 But that’s going to make the whole world[br]vulnerable. It’s a debt explosion, it has 0:02:27.200,0:02:31.920 occurred for 40 years, we’ve known it has[br]been building, we knew it couldn’t last, 0:02:31.920,0:02:36.140 and we knew it would end first with the financial[br]bubble collapsing, and now we’re in the 0:02:36.140,0:02:37.659 midst of a currency crisis. 0:02:37.659,0:02:40.980 MEGYN KELLY: You know, it’s really scary[br]to see what can happen in a society when the 0:02:40.980,0:02:43.909 overspending comes home to roost. 0:02:43.909,0:02:47.489 You know, when you see the consequences of[br]years and years of overspending. 0:02:47.489,0:02:50.769 Obviously people here are very worried about[br]our debt and our deficit. 0:02:50.769,0:02:54.799 Congressman Paul, could this kind of thing[br]happen here? Could what we’re seeing in 0:02:54.799,0:02:57.860 Greece and in California happen on a nationwide[br]basis here? 0:02:57.860,0:03:01.689 RON PAUL: Absolutely. There’s going to be[br]anger and there’s going to be riots in the 0:03:01.689,0:03:02.730 streets as well. 0:03:02.730,0:03:07.219 But this is all a consequence of the fact[br]that why and how the government spends like 0:03:07.219,0:03:07.469 this. 0:03:07.219,0:03:12.189 It’s because they don’t have sound money.[br]When we run up deficits, we tax, but never 0:03:12.189,0:03:16.230 enough. We can’t tax, it would ruin the[br]economy. Then we borrow, and we get away with 0:03:16.230,0:03:17.359 that for a long time. 0:03:17.359,0:03:22.480 But we rely on the printing presses from the[br]Federal Reserve to create the money, and that’s 0:03:22.480,0:03:23.420 where the problem is. 0:03:23.420,0:03:29.620 This is why we have to look at the Federal[br]Reserve, we have to get an audit of the Federal 0:03:29.620,0:03:33.680 Reserve, we have to look at the monetary system[br]and the dollar system because you can’t 0:03:33.680,0:03:34.640 have fake money. 0:03:34.640,0:03:39.099 This is counterfeit. We’ve been operating[br]like this since 1971. 0:03:39.099,0:03:44.700 No time in the history of the world has the[br]whole world been on fiat money for so long 0:03:44.700,0:03:49.379 building up these financial bubbles, distorting[br]the economies and running up all this debt, 0:03:49.379,0:03:52.420 and it has to be paid for. This is just the[br]beginning. 0:03:52.420,0:03:56.629 MEGYN KELLY: Do you actually think that the[br]Federal Reserve may be secretly bailing out 0:03:56.629,0:04:01.120 Greece anyway, because we can’t audit the[br]Federal Reserve, so we don’t know what it’s 0:04:01.120,0:04:01.709 doing with this money. 0:04:01.709,0:04:03.609 You think they may be funneling money over[br]there right now? 0:04:03.609,0:04:07.609 RON PAUL: Well, they’re capable of doing[br]it, that’s why I demand an audit. 0:04:07.609,0:04:12.239 But we do know that the IMF has offered them[br]a lot of money, and we’re like 25 percent 0:04:12.239,0:04:17.220 of the IMF, and that money has to come from[br]us, it has to come from creating new money. 0:04:17.220,0:04:20.910 But what they do secretly we don’t know.[br]But they’re capable of doing it. 0:04:20.910,0:04:24.540 And believe me, if push comes to shove, they’re[br]going to use the dollar because people are 0:04:24.540,0:04:27.660 still trusting the dollar. We still have the[br]big economy. 0:04:27.660,0:04:31.610 But that just delays the inevitable and it[br]makes the downturn that much worse. 0:04:31.610,0:04:33.890 MEGYN KELLY: How much of this fall on the[br]Dow do you attribute to Greece? 0:04:33.890,0:04:39.860 RON PAUL: Oh, I think a lot. But that’s[br]just the tip of the iceberg. They’re the 0:04:39.860,0:04:43.260 ones who have been the first ones to fall,[br]but then there’s going to be Portugal, there’s 0:04:43.260,0:04:46.320 going to be California, then it’s going[br]to be United States government, and it’s 0:04:46.320,0:04:51.670 going to be all the governments. I mean, they[br]talk about Germany being the powerhouse? You 0:04:51.670,0:04:56.480 think they have balanced budgets and they’re[br]going to be able to bail out Europe? No! Everyone’s 0:04:56.480,0:05:01.520 in this together. So Greece is just the beginning[br]because they were probably worse off and it 0:05:01.520,0:05:02.730 was precipitated. 0:05:02.730,0:05:07.480 But all the countries and so many of our states[br]are that way and many of our corporations, 0:05:07.480,0:05:10.860 individuals, it’s still debt that has to[br]be liquidated. 0:05:10.860,0:05:13.480 MEGYN KELLY: Alright. Well, Congressman Ron[br]Paul, we always appreciate hearing your insights 0:05:13.480,0:05:14.600 on it. Thank you so much for being here. 0:05:14.600,0:05:17.500 RON PAUL: Thank you.