1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Hi,my name is Joseph Scamardo and I am an assistant professor of philosophy 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and associate Director of the Institute in Public Affairs 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 at San Diego State University 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I specialized in philosophy of disability and bioethics. 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I also identify as disabled, I have a spinal cord injury as well as a rare kind of dwarfism 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So you get two for the price of one with me 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, my first memory of discrimination was, well, it's hard to say. 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I have lots of memories as far as the experience of stigma 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or bigotry, mostly around my dwarfism 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so, you know I have lots of early memories 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 around that with children staring and laughing and that sort of thing 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from a very young age. 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Then as far as sort of a more systematic discrimination that sort of excluded me from something 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that I wanted to do, 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I had a pretty good experience as a child, 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mostly because my parents really did a lot to make sure that I was included 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I can remember being in boy scouts and cub scouts when I was a kid 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and my father, really doing a lot with me 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to ensure that the inclusion of my disability-- 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You know going on camping trips with me 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and sort of acting as a personal attendant 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 kinda thing to make sure that I was able 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to go and participate, 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that sort of thing. 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so the first real experience 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of exclusion that I can remember 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 happened when it was time 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to go to high school. 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I had gone to the public schools in my town 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in my town up until the 8th grade 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then when it came to high school, 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was supposed to go to the same 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 private religiously oriented school 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that my older siblings went to 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I took the entrance exam and 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 even got a small scholarship to go and everything, 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but it didn't have an elevator, 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so I used a motorized scooter 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to get around, and it was 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 going to be impossible for me to 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 attend that school, because there was no 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 elevator. Now this was actually 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 after the passage of the ADA, 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but because it was 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a religiously oriented school, 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it was exempt from the requirements 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of the ADA. 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And so, I didn't have any leverage with 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that law. 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 To be able to get them 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to make accommodations for me 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so I ended up going to the public school 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in my town, which actually, personally, 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was pretty happy about anyway, 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because that's where all my friends 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 were going. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But it still sort of clued me into the fact that 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not everything is accessible, 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 not everything is designed for me and that 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this was going to be something 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was gonna have to figure out throughout 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 my life. 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 As far as 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 remembering the ADA and its () 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that sort of thing, 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was pretty young when it was passed, 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was sometimes referred to as part of the 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ADA generation, which means that 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I grew up with the ADA mostly, 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was born in 1982, 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 so I was 8 or 9 years old when the ADA 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 passed, 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so I didn't really have 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 any kind of recollection of, "Aha!" 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's--Of the moment that it passed. 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the recall of where I was at the time 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or anything like this, 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but I do remember my father explaining 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it to me, around the time of my 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 start of high school. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When I experienced this with that 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 private catholic school, and having that 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 sort of systematic discrimination experience.