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Oi, sou o Joseph Scamardo,
professor assistente de filosofia

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e diretor associado do 
Instituto de Assuntos Públicos

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na Universidade Estadual de San Diego.

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Sou especializado em Filosofia
de Deficiência e Bioética.

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Eu também sou uma pessoa com deficiência.

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Tenho uma lesão na medula espinhal,

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assim como um tipo raro de nanismo, 
e então

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meio que sou “dois em um”.

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Bem, minha primeira lembrança 
de discriminação foi,

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bem, é difícil dizer...

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Tenho muitas lembrança em relação

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a experiência de preconceito 
ou intolerância,

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geralmente sobre do meu nanismo,

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E então, sabe

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tenho várias memórias antigas sobre isso

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com crianças encarando e rindo

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e coisas desse tipo, desde muito cedo.

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Então tanto quanto, um tipo de

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discriminação mais sistemática

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que meio que me excluía de algo

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que eu queria fazer.

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Eu tive uma ótima experiência 
quando criança,

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principalmente porque meus pais 
realmente fizeram muito

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para garantir que eu fosse incluso.

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Me lembro de fazer parte dos escoteiros

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e lobinhos enquanto criança,

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e meu pai, realmente fazendo 
muitas coisas comigo

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para garantir a inclusão 
da minha deficiência--

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Sabe, indo a viagens de acampamento comigo

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e meio que agia como um
assistente pessoal,

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coisas do tipo para ter certeza 
de que eu

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de que eu era capaz de ir e participar
deste tipo de evento.

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...
E então, a primeira experiência real

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de exclusão que eu consigo lembrar

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aconteceu quando chegou a hora
de ir para o ensino médio.

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Eu estudei em escolas publicas,

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na minha cidade, até a 8° série

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e depois quando chegou o ensino médio,

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eu supostamente iria para a mesma

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escola particular, do tipo religiosa,

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que meus irmãos mais velhos foram,

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e eu fiz uma prova para entrar

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e até ganhei uma pequena 
bolsa de estudos para ir e tudo,

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mas não tinha elevador lá,

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e então eu usava uma scooter motorizada

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para me locomover,

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e seria impossível para mim,

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estudar naquela escola, 
porque não tinha elevador.

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Agora isso foi na verdade depois
da implementação da ADA

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mas como era uma escola religiosa

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estava isenta das normas da lei ADA

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E então, eu não tive 
nenhum proveito dessa lei.

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Para conseguir com que eles 
fizessem adaptações para mim.

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Então, acabei indo para a escola pública 
da minha cidade,

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o que na verdade, pessoalmente
me deixou muito feliz

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porque era para lá que meus 
amigos estavam indo.

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Mas isso meio que me mostrou

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o fato de que

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nem tudo é acessível,

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nem tudo é projetado para mim

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e que isso seria algo com o qual 
eu teria que lidar

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por toda a minha vida.

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Tanto quanto...

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lembrar da ADA

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e sua aprovação, esse tipo de coisa,

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eu era bem novo quando ela foi aprovada,

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às vezes se referem a mim como parte

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da geração ADA, o que significa

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que, em grande parte, 
eu meio que cresci com a ADA.

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Eu nasci em 1982,

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então eu tinha 8 ou 9 anos 
quando a ADA foi aprovada.

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Então eu não tenho 
muitas lembranças do tipo, "Aha!

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Esse foi o momento que foi aprovada."

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Eu não lembro onde 
eu estava naquele dia,

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ou algo do tipo.

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Mas lembro do meu pai 
explicando ela pra mim,

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mais ou menos na época 
em que comecei o ensino médio.

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Quando tive essa experiência 
com aquela escola católica

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e passar por essa experiência 
de discriminação sistemática.

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Ele explicou que escolas públicas,

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e outros tipos de lugares públicos

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eram acessíveis pra mim 
por causa da ADA

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e que havia essa lei que dizia 
que as coisas deveriam

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ser acessíveis para pessoas

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que usam cadeiras de rodas 
e scooters motorizadas, como eu usava.

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Então, essa foi a primeira vez 
que fiquei ciente da ADA,

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e também da discriminação.

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O que é meio legal, eu acho.

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Porque foi legal ter aquela experiência

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de "OK, isso será desafiador para você,"

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"e é assim que você é protegido,"

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"é assim que você pode 
fazer algo sobre isso."

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Então, de alguma forma, isso meio que foi

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meu despertar dentro do ativismo também.

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Agora, sobre a diferença que a ADA
tem feito na minha vida,

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ou na vida de outros...

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Eu acho que isso tem sido,

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claro, uma lei incrivelmente importante

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que tem dado todos os tipos
de oportunidades às pessoas.

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Desde transporte público, para poder 
se locomover pela sua comunidade.

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Decisões sobre moradia 
são baseadas na ADA,

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que diz que as pessoas devem ser...

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quando precisam de cuidado de longo prazo,

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e serem atendidas 
em ambientes menos restritos,

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ou seja, você não pode 
simplesmente internar alguém

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porque é conveniente para você.

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É preciso garantir que eles consigam 
viver em comunidade,

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ou algum lugar que seja 
o melhor para eles.

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O que mais a ADA fez?

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Conseguir...

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ter uma educação, um trabalho,

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todas essas coisas, para mim e para outros

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ocorreram por causa da ADA.

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E eu nem consigo imaginar 
como era antes dela, sinceramente.

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Quer dizer, eu posso imaginar,

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mas fico feliz por não precisar
passar por isso.

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A ADA faz a diferença

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em muitas experiências pessoais

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e em muitas

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questões políticas sobre deficiências.

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Minha...

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experiência pessoal

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mais recente que foi afetada pela ADA

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foi...

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conseguir viver de forma independente

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com meus dois filhos.

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Acho que antes da ADA, 
teria sido muito mais difícil.

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Criar meus filhos significa que tenho 
que ir a vários lugares públicos

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e fazer coisas que eu talvez 
não precisaria fazer

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a trabalho, ou no dia a dia, 
se eu não tivesse eles.

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Então, ir ao zoológico, ao mercado 
para algo de última hora...

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ou, sabe...

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O que quer que seja.

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Acho que, sabe...

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ao abrir creches, etc.,

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a ADA meio que tornou tudo isso 
acessível pra mim,

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como alguém que usa cadeira de rodas.

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Dessa forma, causou 
um grande impacto na minha vida,

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recentemente.

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Agora, uma coisa que posso 
mencionar, profissionalmente,

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sobre a ADA

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e seu impacto, ou falta dele,

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é, provavelmente,

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tem duas partes.

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Uma é as formas em que

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meu privilégio,

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como pessoa com deficiência física,

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há uma hierarquia 
entre as deficiências, claro.

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E deficiência física geralmente 
está no topo desta hierarquia.

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Transtornos mentais

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e deficiências intelectuais

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estão um pouco abaixo dessa hierarquia.

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Então, como homem branco 
com deficiência física,

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cisgênero e heterossexual,

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Fui mais beneficiado pela ADA 
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que não têm esses tipos de privilégios.

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Acho que, por exemplo,

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como a ADA foi projetada

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Se eu não tivesse todos esses otros privilégios que eu tenho,

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que a ADA não faz nada para tratar,
só meio que trata

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todas as pessoas com deficiência como se elas
fossem iguais, e como se a única coisa que

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elas têm que lidar é capacitismo estrutural,
e isso não é verdade, é?

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Eu acho que uma outra coisa sobre deficiência que a ADA não trata

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é a economia, em que, eu acho que apesar da abilidade de cmpetir,

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00:21:28,432 --> 00:21:42,011


284
00:21:43,216 --> 00:21:47,216


285
00:21:47,308 --> 00:21:51,674


286
00:21:51,674 --> 00:21:53,632


287
00:21:53,648 --> 00:21:59,198


288
00:21:59,198 --> 00:22:01,343


289
00:22:01,343 --> 00:22:04,533


290
00:22:04,533 --> 00:22:11,444


291
00:22:11,444 --> 00:22:16,203


292
00:22:17,327 --> 00:22:24,375


293
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:31,728


294
00:22:31,728 --> 00:22:34,589


295
00:22:36,806 --> 00:22:45,986


296
00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:53,335


297
00:22:53,755 --> 00:22:56,167


298
00:22:57,537 --> 00:23:06,916


299
00:23:07,537 --> 00:23:12,551


300
00:23:13,531 --> 00:23:16,597


301
00:23:17,474 --> 00:23:27,393


302
00:23:28,535 --> 00:23:30,834


303
00:23:31,496 --> 00:23:37,742


304
00:23:38,659 --> 00:23:43,969


305
00:23:44,224 --> 00:23:47,344


306
00:23:48,275 --> 00:23:54,736


307
00:23:55,487 --> 00:24:00,000


308
00:24:00,078 --> 00:24:04,078


309
00:24:04,371 --> 00:24:08,901


310
00:24:08,901 --> 00:24:10,194


311
00:24:10,194 --> 00:24:11,777


312
00:24:12,550 --> 00:24:16,550


313
00:24:16,943 --> 00:24:20,167


314
00:24:20,167 --> 00:24:21,857


315
00:24:22,385 --> 00:24:24,476


316
00:24:25,034 --> 00:24:27,038


317
00:24:27,038 --> 00:24:31,251


318
00:24:31,868 --> 00:24:35,419


319
00:24:35,419 --> 00:24:37,747


320
00:24:39,213 --> 00:24:42,052


321
00:24:42,052 --> 00:24:44,245


322
00:24:45,204 --> 00:24:47,580


323
00:24:48,137 --> 00:24:50,589


324
00:24:51,684 --> 00:24:53,885


325
00:24:53,885 --> 00:24:54,849


326
00:24:55,135 --> 00:24:59,595


327
00:24:59,595 --> 00:25:01,521


328
00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:05,348


329
00:25:05,348 --> 00:25:09,068


330
00:25:09,068 --> 00:25:11,284


331
00:25:11,284 --> 00:25:13,567


332
00:25:13,567 --> 00:25:15,505


333
00:25:15,505 --> 00:25:16,805


334
00:25:17,693 --> 00:25:22,555


335
00:25:23,722 --> 00:25:27,722


336
00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:30,306


337
00:25:30,370 --> 00:25:32,420


338
00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:35,150


339
00:25:35,150 --> 00:25:37,690


340
00:25:37,690 --> 00:25:40,193


341
00:25:40,193 --> 00:25:40,903


342
00:25:41,749 --> 00:25:45,749


343
00:25:45,984 --> 00:25:53,121


344
00:25:53,264 --> 00:25:55,499


345
00:25:55,499 --> 00:25:58,499


346
00:25:58,499 --> 00:26:00,515


347
00:26:00,515 --> 00:26:03,646


348
00:26:03,646 --> 00:26:06,919


349
00:26:07,763 --> 00:26:13,250


350
00:26:14,397 --> 00:26:18,994


351
00:26:19,618 --> 00:26:23,618


352
00:26:24,774 --> 00:26:28,336


353
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:31,053


354
00:26:31,053 --> 00:26:32,823


355
00:26:32,823 --> 00:26:36,023


356
00:26:36,023 --> 00:26:41,900


357
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:45,900


358
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:47,807


359
00:26:49,043 --> 00:26:53,255


360
00:26:53,255 --> 00:26:57,866


361
00:26:57,875 --> 00:27:03,575


362
00:27:03,575 --> 00:27:06,975


363
00:27:06,975 --> 00:27:10,975


364
00:27:11,869 --> 00:27:14,428


365
00:27:14,943 --> 00:27:17,893


366
00:27:17,893 --> 00:27:20,619


367
00:27:20,619 --> 00:27:22,597


368
00:27:22,729 --> 00:27:25,037


369
00:27:25,037 --> 00:27:26,754


370
00:27:26,754 --> 00:27:28,334


371
00:27:28,462 --> 00:27:34,935


372
00:27:34,935 --> 00:27:37,452


373
00:27:37,452 --> 00:27:39,973


374
00:27:40,011 --> 00:27:45,453


375
00:27:45,453 --> 00:27:48,556


376
00:27:48,556 --> 00:27:52,743


377
00:27:52,743 --> 00:27:58,974


378
00:27:58,974 --> 00:28:02,000


379
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,106


380
00:28:07,122 --> 00:28:09,603


381
00:28:09,603 --> 00:28:12,168


382
00:28:12,402 --> 00:28:15,225


383
00:28:15,225 --> 00:28:17,654


384
00:28:17,654 --> 00:28:18,901


385
00:28:19,502 --> 00:28:23,502


386
00:28:23,592 --> 00:28:28,352


387
00:28:28,352 --> 00:28:32,352


388
00:28:32,352 --> 00:28:36,352


389
00:28:36,352 --> 00:28:38,931


390
00:28:40,068 --> 00:28:50,474


391
00:28:50,474 --> 00:28:52,196


392
00:28:53,499 --> 00:28:58,790


393
00:28:58,790 --> 00:29:04,580


394
00:29:04,580 --> 00:29:07,334


395
00:29:07,334 --> 00:29:09,432


396
00:29:09,622 --> 00:29:11,218


397
00:29:13,154 --> 00:29:16,323


398
00:29:16,323 --> 00:29:18,087


399
00:29:18,087 --> 00:29:20,025


400
00:29:20,025 --> 00:29:22,017


401
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:25,134


402
00:29:25,217 --> 00:29:27,144


403
00:29:27,819 --> 00:29:30,048


404
00:29:31,091 --> 00:29:33,299


405
00:29:33,299 --> 00:29:34,609


406
00:29:34,609 --> 00:29:36,510


407
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,479


408
00:29:40,484 --> 00:29:46,377


409
00:29:46,674 --> 00:29:49,518


410
00:29:49,518 --> 00:29:52,045


411
00:29:52,045 --> 00:29:53,649


412
00:29:55,219 --> 00:29:58,059


413
00:29:58,059 --> 00:29:59,812


414
00:30:00,951 --> 00:30:05,570


415
00:30:05,570 --> 00:30:09,570


416
00:30:09,570 --> 00:30:13,570


417
00:30:13,570 --> 00:30:16,740


418
00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:18,270


419
00:30:19,834 --> 00:30:22,706


420
00:30:23,176 --> 00:30:26,204


421
00:30:26,204 --> 00:30:28,484


422
00:30:28,484 --> 00:30:31,356


423
00:30:31,356 --> 00:30:33,801


424
00:30:35,809 --> 00:30:37,807


425
00:30:37,807 --> 00:30:40,100


426
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:43,770


427
00:30:43,770 --> 00:30:46,464


428
00:30:47,994 --> 00:30:50,334


429
00:30:50,334 --> 00:30:52,073


430
00:30:53,082 --> 00:30:55,047


431
00:30:55,047 --> 00:30:56,777


432
00:30:56,959 --> 00:30:59,262


433
00:30:59,830 --> 00:31:03,830


434
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:07,630


435
00:31:07,630 --> 00:31:11,725


436
00:31:11,725 --> 00:31:13,422


437
00:31:14,821 --> 00:31:18,821


438
00:31:19,536 --> 00:31:23,536


439
00:31:23,663 --> 00:31:26,782


440
00:31:26,782 --> 00:31:30,782


441
00:31:30,865 --> 00:31:33,684


442
00:31:33,684 --> 00:31:35,093


443
00:31:35,093 --> 00:31:37,881


444
00:31:37,881 --> 00:31:41,881


445
00:31:41,881 --> 00:31:43,951


446
00:31:43,951 --> 00:31:46,547


447
00:31:46,547 --> 00:31:53,012


448
00:31:53,012 --> 00:31:57,012


449
00:31:57,012 --> 00:32:02,217


450
00:32:03,977 --> 00:32:07,857


451
00:32:07,857 --> 00:32:10,837


452
00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:14,188


453
00:32:14,188 --> 00:32:17,137


454
00:32:17,137 --> 00:32:23,581


455
00:32:23,581 --> 00:32:25,968


456
00:32:26,504 --> 00:32:29,880


457
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,880


458
00:32:33,974 --> 00:32:36,563


459
00:32:36,563 --> 00:32:39,341


460
00:32:39,341 --> 00:32:42,265


461
00:32:42,265 --> 00:32:44,179


462
00:32:44,179 --> 00:32:48,483


463
00:32:48,483 --> 00:32:51,149


464
00:32:51,149 --> 00:32:54,434


465
00:32:54,434 --> 00:32:58,361


466
00:32:58,361 --> 00:33:01,168


467
00:33:01,168 --> 00:33:04,468


468
00:33:04,468 --> 00:33:06,643


469
00:33:06,643 --> 00:33:09,101


470
00:33:09,101 --> 00:33:11,771


471
00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:16,232


472
00:33:16,232 --> 00:33:21,292


473
00:33:21,292 --> 00:33:23,303


474
00:33:23,303 --> 00:33:25,389


475
00:33:25,389 --> 00:33:28,801


476
00:33:28,801 --> 00:33:34,661


477
00:33:34,661 --> 00:33:37,351


478
00:33:37,351 --> 00:33:41,051


479
00:33:41,051 --> 00:33:44,395


480
00:33:44,395 --> 00:33:46,015


481
00:33:46,015 --> 00:33:48,230


482
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:50,655


483
00:33:50,655 --> 00:33:53,340


484
00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:57,340


485
00:33:57,340 --> 00:34:01,540


486
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,456


487
00:34:03,456 --> 00:34:05,636


488
00:34:05,636 --> 00:34:07,915


489
00:34:07,915 --> 00:34:13,541


490
00:34:14,113 --> 00:34:17,763


491
00:34:17,763 --> 00:34:21,763


492
00:34:22,099 --> 00:34:24,973


493
00:34:24,973 --> 00:34:27,159


494
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,761


495
00:34:29,761 --> 00:34:32,830


496
00:34:32,830 --> 00:34:35,168


497
00:34:35,411 --> 00:34:38,961


498
00:34:38,961 --> 00:34:41,781


499
00:34:41,781 --> 00:34:43,522


500
00:34:43,522 --> 00:34:46,251


501
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:49,471


502
00:34:49,802 --> 00:34:53,034


503
00:34:53,382 --> 00:34:56,665


504
00:34:56,665 --> 00:35:00,665


505
00:35:00,665 --> 00:35:03,969


506
00:35:03,969 --> 00:35:07,969


507
00:35:07,978 --> 00:35:11,238


508
00:35:11,238 --> 00:35:13,742


509
00:35:13,742 --> 00:35:17,742


510
00:35:17,742 --> 00:35:19,739


511
00:35:19,739 --> 00:35:23,369


512
00:35:23,369 --> 00:35:27,369


513
00:35:27,558 --> 00:35:30,164


514
00:35:30,164 --> 00:35:32,407


515
00:35:32,407 --> 00:35:35,523


516
00:35:35,677 --> 00:35:39,302


517
00:35:39,302 --> 00:35:43,085


518
00:35:43,085 --> 00:35:48,129


519
00:35:48,129 --> 00:35:50,309


520
00:35:50,326 --> 00:35:52,268


521
00:35:52,339 --> 00:35:55,879


522
00:35:55,879 --> 00:35:59,372


523
00:35:59,663 --> 00:36:03,070


524
00:36:03,070 --> 00:36:06,933


525
00:36:06,933 --> 00:36:10,253


526
00:36:10,253 --> 00:36:13,806


527
00:36:13,806 --> 00:36:16,826


528
00:36:16,826 --> 00:36:19,936


529
00:36:19,936 --> 00:36:21,440


530
99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999