1 00:00:00,020 --> 00:00:20,231 ♪ theme music ♪ 2 00:00:20,231 --> 00:00:22,104 (Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School, 3 00:00:22,104 --> 00:00:23,786 an in-depth, interactive study 4 00:00:23,786 --> 00:00:25,071 of the Word of God. 5 00:00:25,071 --> 00:00:26,027 We are in the middle 6 00:00:26,027 --> 00:00:28,269 of a very important series, 7 00:00:28,269 --> 00:00:30,489 Bible Prophecies and Stories 8 00:00:30,489 --> 00:00:32,356 for the Last Days. 9 00:00:32,356 --> 00:00:34,925 If you've missed any, go to our website, 10 00:00:34,925 --> 00:00:37,986 hopetv.org/hopess. 11 00:00:37,986 --> 00:00:40,565 You can watch the past episodes there. 12 00:00:40,565 --> 00:00:42,667 Or, go to our YouTube channel, 13 00:00:42,667 --> 00:00:45,387 Hope Sabbath School, and watch them there. 14 00:00:45,387 --> 00:00:47,889 Today, we're starting to examine 15 00:00:47,889 --> 00:00:52,705 The Nations as a theme in Bible prophecy, 16 00:00:52,705 --> 00:00:54,101 and we're glad you joined us. 17 00:00:54,101 --> 00:00:55,230 Welcome to the team, 18 00:00:55,230 --> 00:00:56,502 say, "Hi," to each other, 19 00:00:56,502 --> 00:00:57,502 glad you're all here. 20 00:00:57,502 --> 00:00:58,790 You're looking great today. 21 00:00:58,790 --> 00:01:00,051 And we've got some remotes 22 00:01:00,051 --> 00:01:02,307 joining us, too; let's see who's with us. 23 00:01:02,307 --> 00:01:04,489 Gleny, great to have you back with us, 24 00:01:04,489 --> 00:01:05,624 glad you're here. 25 00:01:05,624 --> 00:01:08,526 Jorge, good to see you with us today. 26 00:01:08,526 --> 00:01:09,748 And, Leeah, always good 27 00:01:09,748 --> 00:01:11,129 to have you with us. 28 00:01:11,129 --> 00:01:13,197 And we're glad that you're with us, too, 29 00:01:13,197 --> 00:01:15,450 because you're part of the great miracle 30 00:01:15,450 --> 00:01:17,267 called Hope Sabbath School 31 00:01:17,267 --> 00:01:19,554 wherever you are, around the world. 32 00:01:19,554 --> 00:01:21,339 Why don't you write to us today, 33 00:01:21,339 --> 00:01:24,292 sshope@hopetv.org. 34 00:01:24,292 --> 00:01:25,573 Or, you can leave a note 35 00:01:25,573 --> 00:01:26,928 on our YouTube channel, 36 00:01:26,928 --> 00:01:29,309 but make sure you include the country 37 00:01:29,309 --> 00:01:30,731 where you call home. 38 00:01:30,731 --> 00:01:35,219 Here's a note from Jane in Maine 39 00:01:35,219 --> 00:01:38,440 in the United States of America. 40 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,115 She says, "Hi to everyone. 41 00:01:41,115 --> 00:01:43,094 I love you all. 42 00:01:43,094 --> 00:01:44,959 Thank you, Hope Sabbath School team." 43 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,869 Well, let's give Jane a wave, shall we? Thank you. 44 00:01:47,869 --> 00:01:50,818 "I receive a great blessing watching 45 00:01:50,818 --> 00:01:53,805 and studying with you every week. 46 00:01:53,805 --> 00:01:57,634 I love the interactive study of the Bible. 47 00:01:57,634 --> 00:01:59,530 May God continue to bless 48 00:01:59,530 --> 00:02:02,344 each and every one who participates 49 00:02:02,344 --> 00:02:05,209 in this study of the Word of God," and we say...? 50 00:02:05,209 --> 00:02:06,137 (Derek, Team) Amen. 51 00:02:06,137 --> 00:02:08,169 (Derek) Wherever you are around the world, 52 00:02:08,169 --> 00:02:09,674 Jane, you're up there in Maine, 53 00:02:09,674 --> 00:02:10,721 we're glad you're part 54 00:02:10,721 --> 00:02:12,780 of our Hope Sabbath School family. 55 00:02:12,780 --> 00:02:15,273 Paulette writes from Jamaica. 56 00:02:15,273 --> 00:02:17,182 Oh, we've got some Jamaican connections 57 00:02:17,182 --> 00:02:19,827 on the team, "Greetings 58 00:02:19,827 --> 00:02:23,018 to Hope Sabbath School," that's Paulette. 59 00:02:23,018 --> 00:02:24,886 "I'm writing from Jamaica. 60 00:02:24,886 --> 00:02:26,929 I must say, I enjoy 61 00:02:26,929 --> 00:02:29,424 your interaction on the team, 62 00:02:29,424 --> 00:02:31,609 and I learn a lot from the class. 63 00:02:31,609 --> 00:02:33,891 Keep up the good work always. 64 00:02:33,891 --> 00:02:36,815 I pray that God will use me 65 00:02:36,815 --> 00:02:38,482 for His glory!" Amen? 66 00:02:38,482 --> 00:02:39,198 (Team) Amen. 67 00:02:39,198 --> 00:02:41,155 (Derek) You know, that's absolutely true. 68 00:02:41,155 --> 00:02:42,354 We don't just want people 69 00:02:42,354 --> 00:02:44,539 to admire something happening. 70 00:02:44,539 --> 00:02:47,274 We're praying that this can be multiplied 71 00:02:47,274 --> 00:02:50,469 in our lives and in your life 72 00:02:50,469 --> 00:02:52,503 around the world. 73 00:02:52,503 --> 00:02:54,983 Here's an unusual donor note. 74 00:02:54,983 --> 00:02:57,088 Most of our donors come 75 00:02:57,088 --> 00:02:59,037 from North America; 76 00:02:59,037 --> 00:03:02,562 this donor comes from Australia. 77 00:03:02,562 --> 00:03:06,194 And the donor writes, "Hello, 78 00:03:06,194 --> 00:03:09,546 Hope Sabbath School team. 79 00:03:09,546 --> 00:03:11,466 Thank you for continuing 80 00:03:11,466 --> 00:03:13,299 to share Jesus..." 81 00:03:13,299 --> 00:03:16,137 (Team) Amen. 82 00:03:16,137 --> 00:03:19,073 (Derek) "...and sharing His Word and His love 83 00:03:19,073 --> 00:03:23,195 in an unconditional, nonjudgmental way. 84 00:03:23,195 --> 00:03:26,630 May this small gift continue to brighten 85 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:29,417 one or two corners of this globe 86 00:03:29,417 --> 00:03:31,813 until Jesus comes." 87 00:03:31,813 --> 00:03:34,843 Now, there must be some... 88 00:03:34,843 --> 00:03:38,910 what do you call it...exchange fees 89 00:03:38,910 --> 00:03:40,847 for transferring the funds 90 00:03:40,847 --> 00:03:42,814 from the Australian dollar 91 00:03:42,814 --> 00:03:44,286 to the U.S. dollar, 92 00:03:44,286 --> 00:03:46,034 because a generous gift 93 00:03:46,034 --> 00:03:50,725 of 196 dollars and 78 cents arrived. 94 00:03:50,725 --> 00:03:53,008 And I want to thank you, Donor 95 00:03:53,008 --> 00:03:55,523 in Australia (you know who you are) 96 00:03:55,523 --> 00:03:57,228 for that generous gift 97 00:03:57,228 --> 00:03:59,664 because we're a donor-supported ministry, 98 00:03:59,664 --> 00:04:01,115 and thank you for being part 99 00:04:01,115 --> 00:04:02,568 of the miracle of God, 100 00:04:02,568 --> 00:04:04,249 and for each one of you. 101 00:04:04,249 --> 00:04:06,029 Some of you who help once a month, 102 00:04:06,029 --> 00:04:07,705 some of you help once a year, 103 00:04:07,705 --> 00:04:09,783 whatever you do, we thank you. 104 00:04:09,783 --> 00:04:11,030 You can go to our website, 105 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:14,880 hopetv.org/hopess, and say, "Lord, 106 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,398 let me be part of the miracle 107 00:04:16,398 --> 00:04:19,233 of sharing Your love with the world." 108 00:04:19,233 --> 00:04:25,493 One last note, from Rosemary in Arkansas 109 00:04:25,493 --> 00:04:28,342 in the United States of America, 110 00:04:28,342 --> 00:04:31,196 "Hello, Hope Sabbath School team." 111 00:04:31,196 --> 00:04:32,537 Do you think they put that 112 00:04:32,537 --> 00:04:35,316 so we can wave? I think so. 113 00:04:35,316 --> 00:04:36,784 "I've learned so much 114 00:04:36,784 --> 00:04:38,704 from watching your show. 115 00:04:38,704 --> 00:04:41,749 I'm very grateful and blessed. 116 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:44,365 I love the Scripture songs 117 00:04:44,365 --> 00:04:46,911 and often hum or sing them 118 00:04:46,911 --> 00:04:48,929 throughout the day. 119 00:04:48,929 --> 00:04:51,367 Thank you so much for everything you do 120 00:04:51,367 --> 00:04:54,102 to reach the world and spread the gospel 121 00:04:54,102 --> 00:04:55,806 and the love of Jesus." 122 00:04:55,806 --> 00:04:59,410 Well, before we sing the song, 123 00:04:59,410 --> 00:05:01,158 Let the Word of Christ Dwell in You, 124 00:05:01,158 --> 00:05:03,727 I just want to say, years ago, 125 00:05:03,727 --> 00:05:05,724 when my wife began to compose 126 00:05:05,724 --> 00:05:08,000 Scripture songs with a prayer 127 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,760 that God's Word would be hidden 128 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,582 in the hearts of our two little boys, 129 00:05:11,582 --> 00:05:14,118 she had no idea that it would impact 130 00:05:14,118 --> 00:05:15,695 so many people, but isn't that 131 00:05:15,695 --> 00:05:17,467 just what God does? 132 00:05:17,467 --> 00:05:19,656 He just says, "You be faithful to Me 133 00:05:19,656 --> 00:05:22,165 in your little sphere, and I'm going 134 00:05:22,165 --> 00:05:24,813 to bless the world through you." 135 00:05:24,813 --> 00:05:27,965 So, I hope you download those songs 136 00:05:27,965 --> 00:05:30,784 because there's a free song each quarter, 137 00:05:30,784 --> 00:05:32,907 a theme song; you can download it free. 138 00:05:32,907 --> 00:05:34,755 And I hear people saying, "Oh, 139 00:05:34,755 --> 00:05:36,004 I know all of your songs." 140 00:05:36,004 --> 00:05:37,949 We were somewhere just last week, 141 00:05:37,949 --> 00:05:39,109 and the person says, 142 00:05:39,109 --> 00:05:40,471 "Let the Word of Christ..." 143 00:05:40,471 --> 00:05:41,612 I said, "Oh, you learned 144 00:05:41,612 --> 00:05:44,552 some Scripture songs - Praise God." 145 00:05:44,552 --> 00:05:46,664 But while you're there at the website, 146 00:05:46,664 --> 00:05:49,120 you can also download the free gift 147 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,476 for this series, because I was praying, 148 00:05:51,476 --> 00:05:53,257 "God, is there a special gift?" 149 00:05:53,257 --> 00:05:55,890 We're talking about Bible Prophecies 150 00:05:55,890 --> 00:05:58,035 and Stories for the Last Days, 151 00:05:58,035 --> 00:05:59,496 and I thought of a book 152 00:05:59,496 --> 00:06:01,566 called Radical Protection. 153 00:06:01,566 --> 00:06:04,335 I think it was offered years ago, but there are 154 00:06:04,335 --> 00:06:06,239 so many new Hope Sabbath School members, 155 00:06:06,239 --> 00:06:08,255 I said, "We need to offer that again" 156 00:06:08,255 --> 00:06:09,937 because the prophet Daniel says 157 00:06:09,937 --> 00:06:11,859 there's coming a time of trouble 158 00:06:11,859 --> 00:06:15,713 such as never was, and we need 159 00:06:15,713 --> 00:06:17,381 that supernatural protection 160 00:06:17,381 --> 00:06:19,933 so we can face the future without fear. 161 00:06:19,933 --> 00:06:21,936 Because when we face the future 162 00:06:21,936 --> 00:06:24,397 with Jesus, we're not afraid. 163 00:06:24,397 --> 00:06:28,859 So, go to our website, hopetv.org/hopess, 164 00:06:28,859 --> 00:06:31,812 click on the Free Gift tab, and you can 165 00:06:31,812 --> 00:06:34,031 download a free digital copy 166 00:06:34,031 --> 00:06:35,615 of that valuable resource 167 00:06:35,615 --> 00:06:37,134 and share it with your friends. 168 00:06:37,134 --> 00:06:40,254 But, right now I'd like to hear you sing, 169 00:06:40,254 --> 00:06:42,614 because we've learned a theme song 170 00:06:42,614 --> 00:06:44,425 from Colossians 3:16. 171 00:06:44,425 --> 00:06:45,966 And you say, "Derek, you 172 00:06:45,966 --> 00:06:47,661 don't sound that good." 173 00:06:47,661 --> 00:06:49,980 Well, sing with us, will you? 174 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:51,631 Let's all sing together and hide 175 00:06:51,631 --> 00:06:53,217 the Word in our hearts, 176 00:06:53,217 --> 00:06:55,937 Let the Word of Christ Dwell in You. 177 00:06:55,937 --> 00:06:58,722 Let's sing it together. 178 00:06:58,722 --> 00:07:12,236 ♪ music ♪ 179 00:09:28,858 --> 00:09:30,575 (Derek) Let's pray together. 180 00:09:30,575 --> 00:09:32,695 Father in Heaven, we believe this series 181 00:09:32,695 --> 00:09:34,747 on Bible Prophecies and Stories 182 00:09:34,747 --> 00:09:38,166 for the Last Days is very relevant 183 00:09:38,166 --> 00:09:39,801 for our lives today. 184 00:09:39,801 --> 00:09:42,004 And so, I pray the same Holy Spirit 185 00:09:42,004 --> 00:09:44,055 who inspired the prophets, 186 00:09:44,055 --> 00:09:46,526 the same Holy Spirit who protected 187 00:09:46,526 --> 00:09:49,412 the Scriptures through the generations, 188 00:09:49,412 --> 00:09:51,997 that same Holy Spirit Jesus promised 189 00:09:51,997 --> 00:09:54,216 would lead us into all truth, 190 00:09:54,216 --> 00:09:55,834 that that would happen 191 00:09:55,834 --> 00:09:59,021 as we study Your Word today, not just here 192 00:09:59,021 --> 00:10:01,367 but with our Hope Sabbath School family 193 00:10:01,367 --> 00:10:02,177 around the world. 194 00:10:02,177 --> 00:10:05,845 We pray in the name of Jesus. Amen. 195 00:10:05,845 --> 00:10:07,085 (Team) Amen. 196 00:10:07,085 --> 00:10:08,377 (Derek) Well, in this study 197 00:10:08,377 --> 00:10:09,995 and the one to follow, we're going 198 00:10:09,995 --> 00:10:11,136 to be studying the theme 199 00:10:11,136 --> 00:10:13,452 of The Nations and how the nations 200 00:10:13,452 --> 00:10:17,896 are part of Bible prophecy. 201 00:10:17,896 --> 00:10:21,660 The first place the nations are mentioned 202 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:23,395 is in the book of Genesis, 203 00:10:23,395 --> 00:10:24,730 and so we'll start there 204 00:10:24,730 --> 00:10:27,265 in Genesis, chapter 10. 205 00:10:27,265 --> 00:10:30,735 And actually it's related to chapter 11, 206 00:10:30,735 --> 00:10:33,505 but let's start by looking in Genesis, 207 00:10:33,505 --> 00:10:36,102 chapter 10, and, Mighty, I'm going 208 00:10:36,102 --> 00:10:37,993 to ask you if you'd read for us 209 00:10:37,993 --> 00:10:42,054 Genesis 10, the first five verses. 210 00:10:42,054 --> 00:10:44,717 Now, there are some unusual names there, 211 00:10:44,717 --> 00:10:46,355 but just say them the best you can 212 00:10:46,355 --> 00:10:47,392 because we don't know 213 00:10:47,392 --> 00:10:50,089 how to say them either, but Genesis, 214 00:10:50,089 --> 00:10:53,652 chapter 10, verses 1 through 5. 215 00:10:53,652 --> 00:10:54,828 (Mighty) I'll be reading 216 00:10:54,828 --> 00:10:57,194 from the New American Standard Bible, and it says: 217 00:11:50,324 --> 00:11:51,585 (Derek) Thank you so much. 218 00:11:51,585 --> 00:11:52,602 Wow, what a great job 219 00:11:52,602 --> 00:11:54,995 of reading those names, you know? 220 00:11:54,995 --> 00:11:59,350 But the last words "into their nations," 221 00:11:59,350 --> 00:12:01,081 now, in order to understand - 222 00:12:01,081 --> 00:12:02,132 and their languages - 223 00:12:02,132 --> 00:12:04,188 there was actually only one language 224 00:12:04,188 --> 00:12:07,278 until chapter 11, so really 10 and 11 225 00:12:07,278 --> 00:12:09,363 are together, and now they're 226 00:12:09,363 --> 00:12:11,161 forming into nations. 227 00:12:11,161 --> 00:12:14,065 So, the question is, what happened 228 00:12:14,065 --> 00:12:17,363 in Genesis, chapter 11, Zaria, 229 00:12:17,363 --> 00:12:21,161 in verses 1 through 4, if you could read. 230 00:12:21,161 --> 00:12:25,649 Let's see what happened in Genesis 11:1-4. 231 00:12:25,649 --> 00:12:26,760 (Zaria) I'll be reading 232 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,303 from the New King James Version: 233 00:13:03,161 --> 00:13:04,990 (Derek) So, here they are, and we know 234 00:13:04,990 --> 00:13:06,514 that the judgment of God comes, 235 00:13:06,514 --> 00:13:09,390 and languages are confused. 236 00:13:09,390 --> 00:13:12,136 And now we just read in chapter 10 237 00:13:12,136 --> 00:13:16,558 that they divide into nations. 238 00:13:16,558 --> 00:13:19,960 So, was the forming into nations 239 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,876 an act of obedience 240 00:13:21,876 --> 00:13:23,654 or an act of rebellion? 241 00:13:23,654 --> 00:13:26,105 (Team Members) Rebellion. 242 00:13:26,105 --> 00:13:27,586 (Team Members) No. 243 00:13:27,586 --> 00:13:30,391 (Derek) Okay, how many said rebellion? 244 00:13:30,391 --> 00:13:33,094 Two, three, two and a half, okay. 245 00:13:33,094 --> 00:13:34,125 How many of you think 246 00:13:34,125 --> 00:13:36,477 it was an act of obedience? 247 00:13:36,477 --> 00:13:38,262 How many of you don't know? 248 00:13:38,262 --> 00:13:39,480 How many of you would say 249 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,650 it could have been one or the other? 250 00:13:41,650 --> 00:13:44,252 Because they were supposed to go 251 00:13:44,252 --> 00:13:46,688 to the ends of the earth, right, 252 00:13:46,688 --> 00:13:49,241 and subdue it; that was the assignment. 253 00:13:49,241 --> 00:13:52,310 And presumably in that, they would be 254 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:54,779 living in harmony with the will of God. 255 00:13:54,779 --> 00:13:58,823 Unfortunately, as the nations emerge, 256 00:13:58,823 --> 00:14:01,315 we find a different spirit 257 00:14:01,315 --> 00:14:02,738 from what God intended, 258 00:14:02,738 --> 00:14:06,458 and we'll find a clue back in chapter 10. 259 00:14:06,458 --> 00:14:08,727 Nicole, if you could read for us 260 00:14:08,727 --> 00:14:11,518 in Genesis, chapter 10, 261 00:14:11,518 --> 00:14:15,366 verses 8 through 12, and we find 262 00:14:15,366 --> 00:14:16,985 a character mentioned, 263 00:14:16,985 --> 00:14:19,534 by the name of Nimrod. 264 00:14:19,534 --> 00:14:21,343 (Nicole) The New International Version 265 00:14:21,343 --> 00:14:23,958 of Genesis 10, verses 8 through 12, says: 266 00:15:02,146 --> 00:15:03,968 (Derek) What do you learn about Nimrod 267 00:15:03,968 --> 00:15:05,803 from that short description? 268 00:15:05,803 --> 00:15:10,238 Anybody. Yes, Puia. 269 00:15:10,238 --> 00:15:11,951 (Puia) Derek, I think what stood out 270 00:15:11,951 --> 00:15:14,171 for me here is the fact that Nimrod 271 00:15:14,171 --> 00:15:15,988 is described as a mighty hunter 272 00:15:15,988 --> 00:15:18,779 before the Lord, and it doesn't sound 273 00:15:18,779 --> 00:15:20,965 like it is a compliment. 274 00:15:20,965 --> 00:15:22,067 It sounds like he is 275 00:15:22,067 --> 00:15:23,908 continuing the rebellion 276 00:15:23,908 --> 00:15:26,274 against the governments of God. 277 00:15:26,274 --> 00:15:29,659 (Derek) Anybody else, what impacted you? Travis? 278 00:15:29,659 --> 00:15:31,242 (Travis) So, what I'm seeing here 279 00:15:31,242 --> 00:15:32,593 from the nations (and Nimrod 280 00:15:32,593 --> 00:15:34,434 is continuing this) is the same spirit 281 00:15:34,434 --> 00:15:35,929 that was at Babel, "Let us make 282 00:15:35,929 --> 00:15:37,011 a name for ourselves." 283 00:15:37,011 --> 00:15:38,617 It continues with Nimrod, 284 00:15:38,617 --> 00:15:39,981 and it continues to this day 285 00:15:39,981 --> 00:15:41,571 with all of the nations, 286 00:15:41,571 --> 00:15:43,501 nation against nation, always trying 287 00:15:43,501 --> 00:15:45,012 to make a name for themselves, 288 00:15:45,012 --> 00:15:48,222 be better and usurp the next nation. 289 00:15:48,222 --> 00:15:49,246 (Derek) Yes, Jenner. 290 00:15:49,246 --> 00:15:50,504 (Jenner) Important to note 291 00:15:50,504 --> 00:15:51,429 is also verse 10, 292 00:15:51,429 --> 00:15:53,394 and from the New American Standard Bible, 293 00:15:53,394 --> 00:15:54,799 "The beginning of his kingdom 294 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:57,101 was Babel," which introduces us 295 00:15:57,101 --> 00:16:01,453 to the next chapter, so negative language towards Nimrod the whole time. 296 00:16:01,453 --> 00:16:02,907 (Derek) And of course, he will 297 00:16:02,907 --> 00:16:05,200 end up also building Nineveh, 298 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,781 and we know the reputation that Nineveh 299 00:16:07,781 --> 00:16:10,761 would have, too, right? 300 00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:14,689 So, back to where this ambition came from. 301 00:16:14,689 --> 00:16:18,440 You say it came from wanting to build 302 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,408 the Tower of Babel, but where is 303 00:16:20,408 --> 00:16:24,948 the spirit of the nations coming from? 304 00:16:24,948 --> 00:16:27,632 Well, let's go to a description 305 00:16:27,632 --> 00:16:31,796 by the prophet Isaiah in chapter 14. 306 00:16:31,796 --> 00:16:33,158 Now, I realize some of you 307 00:16:33,158 --> 00:16:34,256 have read this before - 308 00:16:34,256 --> 00:16:36,116 James, maybe you could read it for us, 309 00:16:36,116 --> 00:16:37,659 verses 12 to 14 - 310 00:16:37,659 --> 00:16:39,703 but someone joining us 311 00:16:39,703 --> 00:16:41,086 for Hope Sabbath School today 312 00:16:41,086 --> 00:16:43,414 is hearing this for the very first time, 313 00:16:43,414 --> 00:16:45,950 and it may be quite startling 314 00:16:45,950 --> 00:16:49,012 because this is the testimony 315 00:16:49,012 --> 00:16:54,075 of a fallen angel, one who was created, 316 00:16:54,075 --> 00:16:56,868 Ezekiel says, in perfection, 317 00:16:56,868 --> 00:16:58,930 but who rebelled against God. 318 00:16:58,930 --> 00:17:00,948 And let's listen to the spirit 319 00:17:00,948 --> 00:17:03,408 of this fallen angel as described 320 00:17:03,408 --> 00:17:05,186 by the prophet Isaiah. 321 00:17:05,186 --> 00:17:06,483 (James) And I'll be reading 322 00:17:06,483 --> 00:17:08,222 from the New King James Version: 323 00:17:45,308 --> 00:17:46,689 (Derek) And, Travis, you said 324 00:17:46,689 --> 00:17:49,305 that same spirit is manifested today... 325 00:17:49,305 --> 00:17:50,120 (Travis) Correct. 326 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:51,804 (Derek) ...with the nations wanting 327 00:17:51,804 --> 00:17:59,865 to exercise dominion, to dominate 328 00:17:59,865 --> 00:18:02,552 powers around them. Yes. 329 00:18:02,552 --> 00:18:04,374 (Travis) I just want to say something 330 00:18:04,374 --> 00:18:05,426 as we just read this. 331 00:18:05,426 --> 00:18:10,326 It says, "you, who weakened the nations," 332 00:18:10,326 --> 00:18:13,563 it's associating an exaltation of self 333 00:18:13,563 --> 00:18:15,633 to the weakening of a nation. 334 00:18:15,633 --> 00:18:17,318 So, if we would glorify God, 335 00:18:17,318 --> 00:18:19,135 we would have a powerful nation. 336 00:18:19,135 --> 00:18:21,521 And if we would exalt ourselves, 337 00:18:21,521 --> 00:18:22,790 the nation would get weak, 338 00:18:22,790 --> 00:18:24,417 if I am reading that correctly. 339 00:18:24,417 --> 00:18:26,417 (Derek) So, let's talk about what God 340 00:18:26,417 --> 00:18:28,646 wanted to do with Abram. 341 00:18:28,646 --> 00:18:30,414 That was his name originally, right, 342 00:18:30,414 --> 00:18:33,000 and later he was called Abraham. 343 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,034 But Abram, He wanted to form him 344 00:18:35,034 --> 00:18:37,971 into a nation, but a nation that was 345 00:18:37,971 --> 00:18:42,208 very different from "the nations," 346 00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:45,142 which come out of Babel, okay? 347 00:18:45,142 --> 00:18:48,408 So, let's go to Genesis, chapter 12. 348 00:18:48,408 --> 00:18:49,983 Tendi, if you could read 349 00:18:49,983 --> 00:18:51,869 the first three verses. 350 00:18:51,869 --> 00:18:54,605 What do you see immediately 351 00:18:54,605 --> 00:18:58,235 in this call to Abram to be a nation 352 00:18:58,235 --> 00:19:00,844 that's so different from the attitude 353 00:19:00,844 --> 00:19:02,712 that we read earlier 354 00:19:02,712 --> 00:19:04,300 in the book of Genesis? 355 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:05,598 (Tendi) And I'll be reading 356 00:19:05,598 --> 00:19:08,390 from the New King James Version: and it reads: 357 00:19:41,648 --> 00:19:42,904 (Derek) Alright, so what's 358 00:19:42,904 --> 00:19:43,808 the big difference? 359 00:19:43,808 --> 00:19:45,506 What jumps out at you? Nicole? 360 00:19:45,506 --> 00:19:47,124 (Nicole) Well, in this case, 361 00:19:47,124 --> 00:19:48,927 God is offering the blessing. 362 00:19:48,927 --> 00:19:51,346 It's not that Abram is taking them. 363 00:19:51,346 --> 00:19:52,847 It's that He's offering them, 364 00:19:52,847 --> 00:19:54,371 and He's saying, "Through Me 365 00:19:54,371 --> 00:19:55,386 you will be blessed," 366 00:19:55,386 --> 00:19:57,079 instead of the other one, which is, 367 00:19:57,079 --> 00:19:58,152 "I will ascend; I will 368 00:19:58,152 --> 00:19:59,564 be better, I will, I will..." 369 00:19:59,564 --> 00:20:00,825 (Derek) Okay, so there are 370 00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:03,325 actually several things going on here. 371 00:20:03,325 --> 00:20:07,161 One, instead of saying, "I will be great," 372 00:20:07,161 --> 00:20:09,313 "I will do this," it is God saying, 373 00:20:09,313 --> 00:20:10,635 "I will do this for you," 374 00:20:10,635 --> 00:20:14,208 "I will do this for you," but also...? 375 00:20:14,208 --> 00:20:15,233 (Travis) The earth... 376 00:20:15,233 --> 00:20:16,856 (Derek) "The earth will be blessed 377 00:20:16,856 --> 00:20:19,201 because of this nation that will 378 00:20:19,201 --> 00:20:20,552 come forth from you." 379 00:20:20,552 --> 00:20:22,160 Do you see the big difference 380 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,350 between that and what we 381 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:25,096 read earlier in the chapter? 382 00:20:25,096 --> 00:20:27,494 Well, the prophet Moses 383 00:20:27,494 --> 00:20:30,301 understood that as God's ideal. 384 00:20:30,301 --> 00:20:31,703 Look in Deuteronomy. 385 00:20:31,703 --> 00:20:33,261 Jenner, if you could read for us 386 00:20:33,261 --> 00:20:35,772 in Deuteronomy, chapter 4, 387 00:20:35,772 --> 00:20:37,868 verses 5 through 10. 388 00:20:37,868 --> 00:20:39,396 (Jenner) Deuteronomy, chapter 4? 389 00:20:39,396 --> 00:20:41,976 (Derek) Chapter 4, beginning with verse 5. 390 00:20:41,976 --> 00:20:47,301 Moses understood God's ideal in the nation 391 00:20:47,301 --> 00:20:49,390 that would be formed from Abram. 392 00:20:49,390 --> 00:20:50,688 (Jenner) I will be reading 393 00:20:50,688 --> 00:20:52,523 from the New American Standard Bible, 394 00:20:52,523 --> 00:20:55,059 Deuteronomy 4, starting with verse 5: 395 00:22:26,351 --> 00:22:28,146 (Derek) And you know that word "fear" 396 00:22:28,146 --> 00:22:29,903 can be translated "to be afraid" 397 00:22:29,903 --> 00:22:33,592 or "reverent," right, "Show reverence 398 00:22:33,592 --> 00:22:35,233 toward Me," right, 399 00:22:35,233 --> 00:22:37,433 if the relationship is right. 400 00:22:37,433 --> 00:22:41,919 So, again, God says, "I'll bless you. 401 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:43,605 Others will be blessed through you, 402 00:22:43,605 --> 00:22:47,576 but even more than that, when others see 403 00:22:47,576 --> 00:22:51,947 the blessing of God," what? What? 404 00:22:51,947 --> 00:22:54,374 (Zaria) They're attracted to it and want to learn... 405 00:22:54,374 --> 00:22:59,567 (Derek) Make the "it" more specific. They're attracted to...? 406 00:22:59,567 --> 00:23:03,844 ...to learn more about God, right?! Jenner? 407 00:23:03,844 --> 00:23:06,668 (Jenner) Very specifically, a personal God. 408 00:23:06,668 --> 00:23:11,543 Verse 7 emphasizes a God that is so near, 409 00:23:11,543 --> 00:23:12,785 and He always listens 410 00:23:12,785 --> 00:23:14,446 whenever we call on Him. 411 00:23:14,446 --> 00:23:15,670 (Derek) I'm going to talk 412 00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:16,962 to some of our remotes here 413 00:23:16,962 --> 00:23:20,105 because some reminders needed to go out. 414 00:23:20,105 --> 00:23:22,695 And we've got three reminders in Isaiah 415 00:23:22,695 --> 00:23:28,450 I'll give to Gleny and Leeah and Jorge. 416 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:31,600 Let's start with Gleny in Isaiah 42:6, 417 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,573 then we'll look at 49:6 418 00:23:33,573 --> 00:23:35,326 and then 60, verse 3. 419 00:23:35,326 --> 00:23:37,488 It sounds like lots of reminders 420 00:23:37,488 --> 00:23:41,923 had to go out, "Don't forget 421 00:23:41,923 --> 00:23:44,387 why you are a people." 422 00:23:44,387 --> 00:23:45,815 Now, we're going to need that 423 00:23:45,815 --> 00:23:47,335 in the last days as a church, 424 00:23:47,335 --> 00:23:51,106 "Don't forget why I've called you," right? 425 00:23:51,106 --> 00:23:53,609 Not so people will say, "I'm so great. 426 00:23:53,609 --> 00:23:55,545 I have this and this and this," 427 00:23:55,545 --> 00:23:56,989 but that people would say, 428 00:23:56,989 --> 00:23:59,525 "What a great God you serve." 429 00:23:59,525 --> 00:24:01,149 Gleny, what's the reminder 430 00:24:01,149 --> 00:24:04,533 in Isaiah 42, verse 6? 431 00:24:04,533 --> 00:24:05,825 (Gleny) And I'll be reading 432 00:24:05,825 --> 00:24:08,318 from the New King James Version, and it says: 433 00:24:20,981 --> 00:24:22,506 (Derek) So, God's ideal then was 434 00:24:22,506 --> 00:24:25,660 that they would be what, to the nations or the Gentiles? 435 00:24:25,660 --> 00:24:26,830 (Derek, Team) A light. 436 00:24:26,830 --> 00:24:31,040 (Derek) Let's look in 49, verse 6, Leeah, 437 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,427 Isaiah 49:6, and see how the prophet 438 00:24:34,427 --> 00:24:38,792 reminds them of that mission. 439 00:24:38,792 --> 00:24:41,180 (Leeah) In the English Standard Version, it reads: 440 00:24:55,333 --> 00:24:58,307 (Derek) Ah, so it's not just some blessing 441 00:24:58,307 --> 00:25:01,066 for Abraham and his descendants, 442 00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:03,993 that is, the nation of Israel, but it is 443 00:25:03,993 --> 00:25:06,726 to bless the entire world, right? 444 00:25:06,726 --> 00:25:10,334 One last reference from Isaiah, Jorge, 445 00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:14,871 in chapter 60 and verse 3. 446 00:25:14,871 --> 00:25:16,939 (Jorge) Isaiah 60, verse 3, 447 00:25:16,939 --> 00:25:17,712 I'll be reading 448 00:25:17,712 --> 00:25:20,616 from the New King James Version, it says: 449 00:25:26,806 --> 00:25:28,474 (Derek) I want to thank you, Jorge. 450 00:25:28,474 --> 00:25:30,280 One of the things we have to remember, 451 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,171 then, is when they "come to your light," 452 00:25:33,171 --> 00:25:35,122 what do we need to do? 453 00:25:35,122 --> 00:25:36,730 (Nicole) Reflect them up. 454 00:25:36,730 --> 00:25:40,763 (Derek) We need to deflect that praise, 455 00:25:40,763 --> 00:25:44,281 right, to the Light of the world. 456 00:25:44,281 --> 00:25:47,687 Gleny, I see your hand. 457 00:25:47,687 --> 00:25:49,920 (Gleny) And I was just quickly trying 458 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,107 to think of what makes this nation 459 00:25:54,107 --> 00:25:56,138 a light to the world, and I think 460 00:25:56,138 --> 00:25:59,096 it's the distinct principles it runs on. 461 00:25:59,096 --> 00:26:00,451 Like, for instance, when you 462 00:26:00,451 --> 00:26:03,068 look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs, 463 00:26:03,068 --> 00:26:04,951 you start with food, shelter, 464 00:26:04,951 --> 00:26:06,620 all of those things. 465 00:26:06,620 --> 00:26:09,332 But here, the kingdom of God 466 00:26:09,332 --> 00:26:12,194 focuses on seeking Him first, 467 00:26:12,194 --> 00:26:14,807 and that's the way you get 468 00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:16,680 all of your needs met. 469 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,163 So, I'm imagining all the nations 470 00:26:19,163 --> 00:26:22,875 seeing this kingdom that follows 471 00:26:22,875 --> 00:26:26,256 under this principle of a God who says, 472 00:26:26,256 --> 00:26:28,908 "Look at Me, and you will get 473 00:26:28,908 --> 00:26:30,989 all of your deepest desires met," 474 00:26:30,989 --> 00:26:33,851 rather than the other way around. 475 00:26:33,851 --> 00:26:35,761 (Derek) Thank you for pointing that out. 476 00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:38,192 That's deep thought right there. 477 00:26:38,192 --> 00:26:40,538 And it ties into my question, 478 00:26:40,538 --> 00:26:43,901 and that is, what's the difference, 479 00:26:43,901 --> 00:26:45,534 just from our initial study 480 00:26:45,534 --> 00:26:47,745 between the nations, 481 00:26:47,745 --> 00:26:49,846 which actually reflect the character 482 00:26:49,846 --> 00:26:54,250 of the fallen angel once called Lucifer, 483 00:26:54,250 --> 00:26:56,637 and the nation that God 484 00:26:56,637 --> 00:26:58,671 calls out of Abraham? 485 00:26:58,671 --> 00:27:00,725 And certainly we'll find later 486 00:27:00,725 --> 00:27:03,262 He desires to be manifest in His church. 487 00:27:03,262 --> 00:27:05,780 What's the big difference? Yes, Zaria? 488 00:27:05,780 --> 00:27:07,396 (Zaria) I would say the difference 489 00:27:07,396 --> 00:27:09,033 is the world decided to follow 490 00:27:09,033 --> 00:27:11,722 after their own will, their own desires, 491 00:27:11,722 --> 00:27:14,320 worshiping other gods and other idols, 492 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,423 and that's why they were led astray often, 493 00:27:16,423 --> 00:27:17,926 doing so many different things. 494 00:27:17,926 --> 00:27:19,655 They got sick, whereas God's nation, 495 00:27:19,655 --> 00:27:21,407 we follow His Word and His light 496 00:27:21,407 --> 00:27:22,780 and His direction. 497 00:27:22,780 --> 00:27:23,857 (Derek) One following 498 00:27:23,857 --> 00:27:25,255 their own will and leading 499 00:27:25,255 --> 00:27:26,485 to the gods of this world 500 00:27:26,485 --> 00:27:27,737 (Leeah, I see your hand), 501 00:27:27,737 --> 00:27:28,902 the other following God. 502 00:27:28,902 --> 00:27:31,114 What difference do you see, Leeah, 503 00:27:31,114 --> 00:27:33,271 between the nations 504 00:27:33,271 --> 00:27:37,118 and the special nation God calls out? 505 00:27:37,118 --> 00:27:38,835 (Leeah) There seems to be an element 506 00:27:38,835 --> 00:27:41,131 of peace that comes when you surrender 507 00:27:41,131 --> 00:27:42,983 to God and His will for your life, 508 00:27:42,983 --> 00:27:44,294 whether that be as a nation 509 00:27:44,294 --> 00:27:45,886 or as an individual. 510 00:27:45,886 --> 00:27:47,661 It's so much more difficult 511 00:27:47,661 --> 00:27:50,424 to live by your own standards 512 00:27:50,424 --> 00:27:52,460 and try to be your own leader 513 00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:54,895 or your own god as opposed to surrendering 514 00:27:54,895 --> 00:27:56,576 to the will of God. 515 00:27:56,576 --> 00:27:58,183 He provides so much more peace, 516 00:27:58,183 --> 00:27:59,375 and your life is laid out 517 00:27:59,375 --> 00:28:01,678 so much, not necessarily easier, 518 00:28:01,678 --> 00:28:04,321 but there is just so much peace 519 00:28:04,321 --> 00:28:06,473 when God is in control. 520 00:28:06,473 --> 00:28:08,275 (Derek) It seems through history 521 00:28:08,275 --> 00:28:10,945 (thank you, Leeah) that the nations 522 00:28:10,945 --> 00:28:15,833 are built by violence; that's history. 523 00:28:15,833 --> 00:28:18,452 The nation that God's calling, 524 00:28:18,452 --> 00:28:22,579 He desires it to be built by love, right? 525 00:28:22,579 --> 00:28:25,625 Love for Him and love for the community. 526 00:28:25,625 --> 00:28:27,426 It's a drastic difference. 527 00:28:27,426 --> 00:28:29,692 And some skeptics might say, 528 00:28:29,692 --> 00:28:33,003 "That other nation you're talking about, 529 00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:35,753 [it] isn't even possible 530 00:28:35,753 --> 00:28:38,442 to have a nation like that." 531 00:28:38,442 --> 00:28:40,351 It's only the survival 532 00:28:40,351 --> 00:28:41,999 of the fittest, right? 533 00:28:41,999 --> 00:28:43,667 That's the only way it will happen, 534 00:28:43,667 --> 00:28:44,742 but we'll see that God 535 00:28:44,742 --> 00:28:46,240 does have a plan. Puia? 536 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,495 (Puia) Derek, I think it's 537 00:28:47,495 --> 00:28:48,636 very interesting to note 538 00:28:48,636 --> 00:28:50,991 that as we contrast and compare 539 00:28:50,991 --> 00:28:52,623 the nations around the world 540 00:28:52,623 --> 00:28:53,824 and the nation that God 541 00:28:53,824 --> 00:28:55,607 was raising up through Abraham, 542 00:28:55,607 --> 00:28:57,374 I think the key difference is 543 00:28:57,374 --> 00:29:00,301 how God reveals Himself closely 544 00:29:00,301 --> 00:29:02,829 with that nation through Abraham. 545 00:29:02,829 --> 00:29:05,358 Although we see a lot of conquering 546 00:29:05,358 --> 00:29:07,866 and violence in the other nations, 547 00:29:07,866 --> 00:29:09,145 I think we have to qualify 548 00:29:09,145 --> 00:29:10,397 that even in those nations 549 00:29:10,397 --> 00:29:13,144 there is that battle between the forces 550 00:29:13,144 --> 00:29:14,733 of good and evil. 551 00:29:14,733 --> 00:29:16,800 But what sets [apart] the nation 552 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,214 through Abraham is that God 553 00:29:20,214 --> 00:29:23,393 had given them that special revelation. 554 00:29:23,393 --> 00:29:25,818 And I think Jenner pointed out, 555 00:29:25,818 --> 00:29:28,248 God is very near to them. 556 00:29:28,248 --> 00:29:30,007 And I want to piggyback 557 00:29:30,007 --> 00:29:32,643 on what Leeah said earlier, when you have 558 00:29:32,643 --> 00:29:35,149 that special revelation from God, 559 00:29:35,149 --> 00:29:37,181 you get to enjoy peace 560 00:29:37,181 --> 00:29:38,251 that the other nations 561 00:29:38,251 --> 00:29:39,920 probably did not get to enjoy. 562 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,681 (Derek) Okay, I've got lots of hands, 563 00:29:41,681 --> 00:29:44,019 Mighty and Jorge. 564 00:29:44,019 --> 00:29:46,083 (Mighty) Going off of what Puia is saying, 565 00:29:46,083 --> 00:29:47,300 he just sparked something 566 00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:49,218 in my mind there, and I'm also recalling 567 00:29:49,218 --> 00:29:50,497 that last week's lesson is 568 00:29:50,497 --> 00:29:51,942 coming into play here as well, 569 00:29:51,942 --> 00:29:54,369 is that we are in a marriage with Christ. 570 00:29:54,369 --> 00:29:56,330 We are in a marriage with Jesus. 571 00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:58,827 And I remember one of the verses we read 572 00:29:58,827 --> 00:30:01,265 was Revelation, chapter 19, verse 7: 573 00:30:08,075 --> 00:30:10,023 We are that bride, and how are we 574 00:30:10,023 --> 00:30:13,247 making ourselves ready for Christ to come? 575 00:30:13,247 --> 00:30:15,365 So, we have to absorb that light 576 00:30:15,365 --> 00:30:17,211 that we have from God and that wisdom 577 00:30:17,211 --> 00:30:18,633 and understanding and display 578 00:30:18,633 --> 00:30:20,719 that character that Christ is looking for. 579 00:30:20,719 --> 00:30:22,757 [Make] herself ready 580 00:30:22,757 --> 00:30:24,371 by displaying that character 581 00:30:24,371 --> 00:30:25,638 that Jesus is looking for, 582 00:30:25,638 --> 00:30:27,050 that wisdom and understanding 583 00:30:27,050 --> 00:30:28,479 of His will, and displaying it 584 00:30:28,479 --> 00:30:30,286 to the nations, so they can be blessed 585 00:30:30,286 --> 00:30:32,366 and others can come into our nation 586 00:30:32,366 --> 00:30:33,571 and make themselves ready 587 00:30:33,571 --> 00:30:34,565 for Christ to come. 588 00:30:34,565 --> 00:30:36,132 (Derek) And I think to be fair, 589 00:30:36,132 --> 00:30:37,917 and, Jorge, I'm coming to your point, 590 00:30:37,917 --> 00:30:40,461 the way we make ourselves ready 591 00:30:40,461 --> 00:30:43,176 is to allow God to make us ready. 592 00:30:43,176 --> 00:30:45,329 In other words, it is God 593 00:30:45,329 --> 00:30:47,797 who is shaping this nation, right, 594 00:30:47,797 --> 00:30:50,200 rather than, "We will," "I will," 595 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,154 "I will," "I will," right, 596 00:30:52,154 --> 00:30:53,771 which is very self-focused. 597 00:30:53,771 --> 00:30:55,827 Now, we have a choice to make, 598 00:30:55,827 --> 00:30:58,540 but that choice is to draw close to God 599 00:30:58,540 --> 00:31:00,685 who can make us a new creation. 600 00:31:00,685 --> 00:31:01,780 It's a different kind 601 00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:05,045 of nation, for sure. Jorge. 602 00:31:05,045 --> 00:31:07,387 (Jorge) Yes, I'm reminded of a portion 603 00:31:07,387 --> 00:31:09,148 as well from last week's lesson 604 00:31:09,148 --> 00:31:11,982 where Abraham told Eliezer, "No, 605 00:31:11,982 --> 00:31:13,974 don't go back to where I came from 606 00:31:13,974 --> 00:31:16,384 to get a wife for my son." 607 00:31:16,384 --> 00:31:18,638 And it reminds me of how we read earlier 608 00:31:18,638 --> 00:31:21,484 in the lesson that God asked Abraham 609 00:31:21,484 --> 00:31:24,181 to come out of his country or his nation 610 00:31:24,181 --> 00:31:25,532 so that He can establish him 611 00:31:25,532 --> 00:31:27,058 as a new nation. 612 00:31:27,058 --> 00:31:28,775 And that dynamic between coming 613 00:31:28,775 --> 00:31:30,778 out of something so God can teach us 614 00:31:30,778 --> 00:31:33,059 something new and use that 615 00:31:33,059 --> 00:31:35,182 for something even greater is a lesson 616 00:31:35,182 --> 00:31:36,493 we see throughout Scripture 617 00:31:36,493 --> 00:31:37,936 with Moses coming out of Egypt 618 00:31:37,936 --> 00:31:39,814 and being taught, John the Baptist 619 00:31:39,814 --> 00:31:41,195 going out to the wilderness 620 00:31:41,195 --> 00:31:42,041 and being taught. 621 00:31:42,041 --> 00:31:43,463 We see these parallels a lot. 622 00:31:43,463 --> 00:31:46,050 I'm reminded of a situation 623 00:31:46,050 --> 00:31:47,161 where I was in a cave; 624 00:31:47,161 --> 00:31:48,559 it was completely dark, 625 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:49,878 and the guide that was 626 00:31:49,878 --> 00:31:51,519 leading us had a lighter. 627 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:52,856 He lights the lighter, 628 00:31:52,856 --> 00:31:55,364 and instinctively everybody 629 00:31:55,364 --> 00:31:56,874 just kind of got closer to him 630 00:31:56,874 --> 00:31:58,891 because they could see where the light was 631 00:31:58,891 --> 00:32:01,061 and without it, it was pitch black. 632 00:32:01,061 --> 00:32:02,735 And I'm reminded of this verse here 633 00:32:02,735 --> 00:32:05,430 in Isaiah when it says that everyone 634 00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:06,763 will come to your light. 635 00:32:06,763 --> 00:32:08,009 The kings will come 636 00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:10,617 to the [brightness of your rising]. 637 00:32:10,617 --> 00:32:13,554 And when I think about the difference 638 00:32:13,554 --> 00:32:15,456 between these nations, God is giving 639 00:32:15,456 --> 00:32:18,376 a light that no one else has. 640 00:32:18,376 --> 00:32:20,311 It's a darkness in the other nations, 641 00:32:20,311 --> 00:32:22,730 and so it is instinctively attractive 642 00:32:22,730 --> 00:32:23,785 when they come to you, 643 00:32:23,785 --> 00:32:25,800 and kings and all these other magistrates 644 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,285 will come to you even as you're 645 00:32:27,285 --> 00:32:28,483 rising as a kingdom. 646 00:32:28,483 --> 00:32:29,928 And so, there's an attraction 647 00:32:29,928 --> 00:32:30,953 that God is using us 648 00:32:30,953 --> 00:32:33,335 through our light. 649 00:32:33,335 --> 00:32:34,885 (Derek) So, here's the question, 650 00:32:34,885 --> 00:32:36,687 how well did Israel do? 651 00:32:36,687 --> 00:32:39,590 And maybe there's not a simple answer. 652 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:42,005 Maybe there were times they did well, 653 00:32:42,005 --> 00:32:44,644 but what would you say, big picture? 654 00:32:44,644 --> 00:32:47,047 How did they do as a light 655 00:32:47,047 --> 00:32:53,183 to the Gentiles, to the world? Anybody? 656 00:32:53,183 --> 00:32:55,006 (Jenner) They didn't do well. 657 00:32:55,006 --> 00:32:55,942 (Derek) They didn't 658 00:32:55,942 --> 00:32:58,392 do well, you would say. 659 00:32:58,392 --> 00:32:59,989 (James) Rejected the light. 660 00:32:59,989 --> 00:33:01,764 (Derek) Rejected...I mean, there were 661 00:33:01,764 --> 00:33:04,587 some good men and women, right? 662 00:33:04,587 --> 00:33:06,060 But you're saying, overall? 663 00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:07,153 (Jenner) Overall, it... 664 00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:08,676 (Derek) You'd say the nation... 665 00:33:08,676 --> 00:33:11,283 I mean, think of King Josiah; he was 666 00:33:11,283 --> 00:33:14,118 awesome, but then someone else would... 667 00:33:14,118 --> 00:33:17,264 Up and down or mainly down? Travis? 668 00:33:17,264 --> 00:33:18,551 (Travis) It's interesting, 669 00:33:18,551 --> 00:33:21,214 at the burning bush, God refers 670 00:33:21,214 --> 00:33:24,434 to the children of Israel as "My son," 671 00:33:24,434 --> 00:33:26,486 "My son, the children of Israel." 672 00:33:26,486 --> 00:33:28,578 Jesus gets baptized, and He said, "This is 673 00:33:28,578 --> 00:33:30,767 My Son in whom I am well pleased." 674 00:33:30,767 --> 00:33:32,098 What we are finding out is 675 00:33:32,098 --> 00:33:33,757 that the children of Israel 676 00:33:33,757 --> 00:33:34,925 really didn't please Him 677 00:33:34,925 --> 00:33:37,457 in everything that they did. 678 00:33:37,457 --> 00:33:41,394 And I praise God because, if we keep going 679 00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:43,669 as we will through the prophecies, 680 00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:44,897 or studying these stories 681 00:33:44,897 --> 00:33:47,351 of the prophecies, we'll find out that God 682 00:33:47,351 --> 00:33:49,259 does eventually finish the work 683 00:33:49,259 --> 00:33:51,601 through His people, you know? 684 00:33:51,601 --> 00:33:52,994 And I think that's something 685 00:33:52,994 --> 00:33:54,164 to look forward to. 686 00:33:54,164 --> 00:33:56,250 (Derek) So, I'm going to ask Gleny 687 00:33:56,250 --> 00:33:58,574 if you'd read for us 688 00:33:58,574 --> 00:34:02,606 from 1 Samuel 8, verses 4 and 5, 689 00:34:02,606 --> 00:34:04,469 because you're saying they're not doing 690 00:34:04,469 --> 00:34:07,053 that well, and in the midst of that, 691 00:34:07,053 --> 00:34:09,274 certainly, you read the book of Judges, 692 00:34:09,274 --> 00:34:11,297 and there's a theme over and over, 693 00:34:11,297 --> 00:34:12,639 "And they did what was right 694 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,385 in their own eyes," "They did 695 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:16,052 what was right in their own eyes," 696 00:34:16,052 --> 00:34:18,521 rather than in the sight of God. 697 00:34:18,521 --> 00:34:20,506 And now, Gleny, if you'll read, 698 00:34:20,506 --> 00:34:23,531 they make another mistake 699 00:34:23,531 --> 00:34:27,576 in 1 Samuel 8, verses 4 and 5. 700 00:34:27,576 --> 00:34:28,903 (Gleny) And I'll be reading 701 00:34:28,903 --> 00:34:31,131 from the New King James Version, and it says: 702 00:34:48,148 --> 00:34:50,151 (Derek) Why did they want a king 703 00:34:50,151 --> 00:34:51,705 like the nations? 704 00:34:51,705 --> 00:34:52,994 We know the characteristic 705 00:34:52,994 --> 00:34:55,456 of "the nations," right, 706 00:34:55,456 --> 00:34:57,655 in terms of what we've been shown 707 00:34:57,655 --> 00:34:59,578 in the book of Genesis. 708 00:34:59,578 --> 00:35:04,271 Why did they want a king like the nations? 709 00:35:04,271 --> 00:35:06,284 Look at one verse in the warning 710 00:35:06,284 --> 00:35:10,731 that Samuel gives in 1 Samuel 8, verse 15. 711 00:35:10,731 --> 00:35:11,796 Nicole, could you read 712 00:35:11,796 --> 00:35:13,607 1 Samuel 8, verse 15? 713 00:35:13,607 --> 00:35:16,444 (Nicole) Sure, New International Version says: 714 00:35:19,574 --> 00:35:20,837 (Derek) Yup, you're right. 715 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:29,870 (Derek) Does something there sound 716 00:35:29,870 --> 00:35:32,630 like a little bit off? 717 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:34,897 What does it sound like? 718 00:35:34,897 --> 00:35:37,217 (Travis) Like the king is stealing 719 00:35:37,217 --> 00:35:39,417 the tithe that belongs to God. 720 00:35:39,417 --> 00:35:40,336 (Derek) It sounds 721 00:35:40,336 --> 00:35:43,586 like, instead of a theocracy 722 00:35:43,586 --> 00:35:47,358 where God is King, right, 723 00:35:47,358 --> 00:35:50,717 and honoring God as the source 724 00:35:50,717 --> 00:35:54,950 of all blessing, they were to return a...? 725 00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:56,936 (Derek, Team) ...tithe. 726 00:35:56,936 --> 00:36:01,434 (Derek) Now, they're giving a tithe 727 00:36:01,434 --> 00:36:04,015 to a human person. 728 00:36:04,015 --> 00:36:06,028 Now, I'm not saying they didn't continue 729 00:36:06,028 --> 00:36:06,993 to return a tithe 730 00:36:06,993 --> 00:36:08,769 to the temple; I don't know. 731 00:36:08,769 --> 00:36:10,236 But it's kind of interesting 732 00:36:10,236 --> 00:36:11,813 that it's the same. 733 00:36:11,813 --> 00:36:16,190 It's almost like a switch, isn't it? 734 00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:18,910 So again, help me, someone. 735 00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:21,327 Gleny and Jorge, I see your hands raised. 736 00:36:21,327 --> 00:36:24,329 Why would they want a king 737 00:36:24,329 --> 00:36:27,934 if God has called them, and in a sense 738 00:36:27,934 --> 00:36:29,652 He is their King? 739 00:36:29,652 --> 00:36:33,246 Zaria, too, okay, let's start with Gleny. 740 00:36:33,246 --> 00:36:36,142 (Gleny) I think the whole theme 741 00:36:36,142 --> 00:36:38,655 of where we see humans err 742 00:36:38,655 --> 00:36:40,641 ever since the Garden of Eden 743 00:36:40,641 --> 00:36:44,351 is when we lack trust in God 744 00:36:44,351 --> 00:36:45,645 and His methods and lean 745 00:36:45,645 --> 00:36:47,672 on our own understanding. 746 00:36:47,672 --> 00:36:49,574 So, there's this idea of we know better; 747 00:36:49,574 --> 00:36:51,212 we think we know better, 748 00:36:51,212 --> 00:36:53,931 and let's go with that. 749 00:36:53,931 --> 00:36:56,252 (Derek) Alright, let's see who else. 750 00:36:56,252 --> 00:36:59,654 Jorge, you had your hand raised. 751 00:36:59,654 --> 00:37:01,489 (Jorge) Yes, in verse 5 752 00:37:01,489 --> 00:37:04,476 of that same passage that we just read, 753 00:37:04,476 --> 00:37:06,461 we kind of see a little bit of the answer 754 00:37:06,461 --> 00:37:08,651 to your question where it says, "Look, you 755 00:37:08,651 --> 00:37:10,039 are old, and your sons 756 00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:11,617 don't walk in your ways." 757 00:37:11,617 --> 00:37:13,701 So, we are seeing that essentially 758 00:37:13,701 --> 00:37:15,333 the spiritual leadership 759 00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:16,362 or the spiritual head 760 00:37:16,362 --> 00:37:19,588 of Israel is lacking, and there is 761 00:37:19,588 --> 00:37:21,217 no one to turn to, and so they are 762 00:37:21,217 --> 00:37:22,902 starting to look for somebody else. 763 00:37:22,902 --> 00:37:24,437 And we see a similar example 764 00:37:24,437 --> 00:37:25,738 that took place with Moses; 765 00:37:25,738 --> 00:37:27,784 when He appeared to delay, 766 00:37:27,784 --> 00:37:29,257 they started looking elsewhere. 767 00:37:29,257 --> 00:37:31,664 And so, perhaps one of the reasons is 768 00:37:31,664 --> 00:37:34,390 because the leadership started 769 00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:38,817 [turning] their view [from] God, and so it 770 00:37:38,817 --> 00:37:42,849 caused a downstream effect to the people. 771 00:37:42,849 --> 00:37:44,479 (Derek) That's a powerful insight. 772 00:37:44,479 --> 00:37:48,488 If the appointed leaders of God 773 00:37:48,488 --> 00:37:52,797 had been faithful, it might have prevented 774 00:37:52,797 --> 00:37:54,588 or averted turning 775 00:37:54,588 --> 00:37:57,025 towards a human king. Tendi? 776 00:37:57,025 --> 00:37:59,870 (Tendi) So, in 1 Samuel 8, verse 7, 777 00:37:59,870 --> 00:38:01,625 the Lord tells Samuel 778 00:38:01,625 --> 00:38:03,226 that they rejected Him, 779 00:38:03,226 --> 00:38:06,647 that's why they wanted to appoint a king. 780 00:38:06,647 --> 00:38:08,670 (Derek) Let's look at his warning. 781 00:38:08,670 --> 00:38:10,778 If someone would read that for us. 782 00:38:10,778 --> 00:38:13,925 Puia, would you read 1 Samuel 8, 783 00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:15,633 verses 10 through 18? 784 00:38:15,633 --> 00:38:17,102 This is the same Samuel 785 00:38:17,102 --> 00:38:19,904 who, as a little boy, when nobody else 786 00:38:19,904 --> 00:38:22,595 was listening to God, heard the Lord 787 00:38:22,595 --> 00:38:25,455 call him, "Samuel, Samuel," right? 788 00:38:25,455 --> 00:38:27,257 Now, he's an old man. 789 00:38:27,257 --> 00:38:29,809 He's been a faithful prophet of God 790 00:38:29,809 --> 00:38:31,771 through the years. 791 00:38:31,771 --> 00:38:35,512 Let's hear his warning. 792 00:38:35,512 --> 00:38:37,064 (Puia) Sure, and I'll be reading 793 00:38:37,064 --> 00:38:38,605 from the New King James Version, 794 00:38:38,605 --> 00:38:41,100 1 Samuel, chapter 8, verses 10 to 18: 795 00:40:03,958 --> 00:40:04,775 (Derek) It sounds 796 00:40:04,775 --> 00:40:07,048 like a fairly serious warning, 797 00:40:07,048 --> 00:40:09,857 but, James, how do they respond, verses 19 798 00:40:09,857 --> 00:40:13,692 and 20 of the same chapter of 1 Samuel 8? 799 00:40:13,692 --> 00:40:15,626 (James) The New King James Version says: 800 00:40:34,903 --> 00:40:37,400 (Derek) What?! Nicole? 801 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,963 (Nicole) That's it; they did not 802 00:40:38,963 --> 00:40:43,393 want to be a separate and special people. 803 00:40:43,393 --> 00:40:45,165 They wanted to be like everyone else. 804 00:40:45,165 --> 00:40:46,830 I think we have that problem today, 805 00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:48,879 that the Lord calls us to be apart 806 00:40:48,879 --> 00:40:51,499 and separate and to be His chosen people, 807 00:40:51,499 --> 00:40:53,433 but we choose to be like everyone else 808 00:40:53,433 --> 00:40:55,425 because we don't want to stand out. 809 00:40:55,425 --> 00:40:57,471 We don't want anyone to notice us 810 00:40:57,471 --> 00:40:58,906 to be different than they are, 811 00:40:58,906 --> 00:41:00,714 and I think that was Israel's problem. 812 00:41:00,714 --> 00:41:03,914 They wanted to be like everyone else around them. 813 00:41:03,914 --> 00:41:05,376 (Derek) I was startled. 814 00:41:05,376 --> 00:41:07,037 I don't know if you caught this 815 00:41:07,037 --> 00:41:09,066 (and then I see some hands raised), 816 00:41:09,066 --> 00:41:10,053 "And [our king] will 817 00:41:10,053 --> 00:41:11,690 go out...and fight our battles"? 818 00:41:11,690 --> 00:41:14,346 (Jenner) That's correct, like conquering. 819 00:41:14,346 --> 00:41:16,110 (Derek) Oh, certainly the conquering, 820 00:41:16,110 --> 00:41:17,853 but, like, really, they're thinking 821 00:41:17,853 --> 00:41:19,855 this one person is going 822 00:41:19,855 --> 00:41:21,682 to go out and fight their battles 823 00:41:21,682 --> 00:41:23,753 when before, the Lord had said, 824 00:41:23,753 --> 00:41:27,430 "I will go before you," right? 825 00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:33,236 Like at Jericho, "I will go before you." Like when... 826 00:41:33,236 --> 00:41:34,762 (Jenner) Opening of the Red Sea. 827 00:41:34,762 --> 00:41:36,106 (Derek) ...He opens the sea, 828 00:41:36,106 --> 00:41:37,511 "I will go before you," 829 00:41:37,511 --> 00:41:41,549 and now you're going to send a person? 830 00:41:41,549 --> 00:41:42,459 Something is wrong 831 00:41:42,459 --> 00:41:45,612 with their thinking, right? Travis? 832 00:41:45,612 --> 00:41:47,554 (Travis) That danger, Derek, 833 00:41:47,554 --> 00:41:49,110 is still even to this day. 834 00:41:49,110 --> 00:41:51,325 I have been reading lots 835 00:41:51,325 --> 00:41:52,743 of books on history, 836 00:41:52,743 --> 00:41:56,045 and there were many religious groups 837 00:41:56,045 --> 00:41:59,514 who lobbied to have Hitler put into place. 838 00:41:59,514 --> 00:42:03,404 He was a vegetarian, he didn't drink, 839 00:42:03,404 --> 00:42:05,036 and he looked out for the welfare. 840 00:42:05,036 --> 00:42:07,341 And just a few short years later, 841 00:42:07,341 --> 00:42:09,945 we see, I mean, just recent history, 842 00:42:09,945 --> 00:42:11,352 we see what happened. 843 00:42:11,352 --> 00:42:13,398 And the psalmist said, "Don't 844 00:42:13,398 --> 00:42:15,367 put your trust in a prince, 845 00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:16,454 or the son of man, 846 00:42:16,454 --> 00:42:17,722 where there is no [help]. 847 00:42:17,722 --> 00:42:19,167 Because the very day they die, 848 00:42:19,167 --> 00:42:21,289 their plans perish." 849 00:42:21,289 --> 00:42:23,888 But God always fought battles 850 00:42:23,888 --> 00:42:25,196 for the children of Israel, 851 00:42:25,196 --> 00:42:26,860 and you're right, for them to want 852 00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:28,567 a man now to fight their battles 853 00:42:28,567 --> 00:42:31,583 just seems crazy! 854 00:42:31,583 --> 00:42:34,185 (Derek) So, here's the question: 855 00:42:34,185 --> 00:42:39,673 Why did God grant their request? 856 00:42:39,673 --> 00:42:42,993 Because didn't God tell Samuel 857 00:42:42,993 --> 00:42:46,480 to anoint someone who is taller 858 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,876 than anybody else, and handsome? 859 00:42:49,876 --> 00:42:51,366 The kind of one that, if he was 860 00:42:51,366 --> 00:42:54,488 in a popularity contest, they would say, 861 00:42:54,488 --> 00:42:57,981 "Why don't you vote for Saul?" 862 00:42:57,981 --> 00:43:00,644 And we all know how that turned out. 863 00:43:00,644 --> 00:43:02,461 Well, maybe we don't, but you can read 864 00:43:02,461 --> 00:43:04,419 about King Saul, and it's 865 00:43:04,419 --> 00:43:07,718 a sad, sad story. 866 00:43:07,718 --> 00:43:13,602 Why did God allow that and even direct 867 00:43:13,602 --> 00:43:18,583 the prophet Samuel to anoint Saul? 868 00:43:18,583 --> 00:43:20,981 I think he was son of Kish, wasn't he? 869 00:43:20,981 --> 00:43:23,467 Why did He direct to have him 870 00:43:23,467 --> 00:43:24,856 anointed as king? 871 00:43:24,856 --> 00:43:26,053 Zaria, what do you think? 872 00:43:26,053 --> 00:43:27,752 (Zaria) I would say it's because He 873 00:43:27,752 --> 00:43:29,070 wanted us to have our will. 874 00:43:29,070 --> 00:43:31,687 He's not going to always just allow us 875 00:43:31,687 --> 00:43:33,130 to do what He wants, right? 876 00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:35,009 He's going to allow us to have our will 877 00:43:35,009 --> 00:43:36,440 and what we desire just so we 878 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,538 can learn from it. 879 00:43:37,538 --> 00:43:39,116 Even in our own lives right now, 880 00:43:39,116 --> 00:43:40,378 sometimes my flesh chooses 881 00:43:40,378 --> 00:43:41,943 something else, and then I learn 882 00:43:41,943 --> 00:43:42,963 from that experience, 883 00:43:42,963 --> 00:43:43,995 and I go back to God. 884 00:43:43,995 --> 00:43:46,057 And we can see this trend throughout time. 885 00:43:46,057 --> 00:43:47,910 They sin, and then they cry out to God, 886 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:49,006 and then He saves them. 887 00:43:49,006 --> 00:43:50,403 They sin again...it just goes 888 00:43:50,403 --> 00:43:52,163 in circles over and over again. 889 00:43:52,163 --> 00:43:53,851 But we learned from now, 890 00:43:53,851 --> 00:43:55,546 all the prophets, what they wrote, 891 00:43:55,546 --> 00:43:57,668 that we now need to trust in God. 892 00:43:57,668 --> 00:43:59,744 So, it's been a lesson for them and for us. 893 00:43:59,744 --> 00:44:01,479 (Derek) So, you would say, and I see 894 00:44:01,479 --> 00:44:03,878 some other hands that are twitching here, 895 00:44:03,878 --> 00:44:07,125 but you would say that God, 896 00:44:07,125 --> 00:44:11,362 if we are persistent, 897 00:44:11,362 --> 00:44:16,137 will grant us what we demand 898 00:44:16,137 --> 00:44:20,475 even if it is not His will - is that true? 899 00:44:20,475 --> 00:44:22,243 (Team) Yes. 900 00:44:22,243 --> 00:44:24,037 (Derek) That God will grant us 901 00:44:24,037 --> 00:44:30,167 what we demand even if it is not His will? 902 00:44:30,167 --> 00:44:31,878 Puia, we need your help. 903 00:44:31,878 --> 00:44:33,163 (Puia) I think that is true 904 00:44:33,163 --> 00:44:35,270 to a certain degree, because time 905 00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:37,243 and time again, what we see in the Bible 906 00:44:37,243 --> 00:44:39,029 is that God does not always get 907 00:44:39,029 --> 00:44:41,478 what He wants personally 908 00:44:41,478 --> 00:44:43,948 because He gives us the freedom to choose, 909 00:44:43,948 --> 00:44:45,433 and love by definition 910 00:44:45,433 --> 00:44:47,202 cannot be forced, right? 911 00:44:47,202 --> 00:44:49,588 God cannot force a relationship 912 00:44:49,588 --> 00:44:51,955 between Him and us. 913 00:44:51,955 --> 00:44:54,675 And so, it does appear that way, 914 00:44:54,675 --> 00:44:57,321 that God would grant certain things, 915 00:44:57,321 --> 00:44:59,852 even if it is not His best plan. 916 00:44:59,852 --> 00:45:01,242 But the good news, of course, 917 00:45:01,242 --> 00:45:03,351 is that even when we make those decisions 918 00:45:03,351 --> 00:45:04,982 that are not in His best plan, 919 00:45:04,982 --> 00:45:07,105 God always continues to pursue us 920 00:45:07,105 --> 00:45:09,440 to bring us back through those lessons 921 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,775 that we learn from those mistakes. 922 00:45:11,775 --> 00:45:13,810 (Derek) Let's take a look at one example, 923 00:45:13,810 --> 00:45:15,800 and, Jorge, I'm going to ask you to read 924 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,324 Romans 1 for us, please, verses 22 to 25, 925 00:45:20,324 --> 00:45:21,971 which I believe would support 926 00:45:21,971 --> 00:45:24,405 what Zaria and Puia have just said. 927 00:45:24,405 --> 00:45:26,241 Now, I don't think God does that 928 00:45:26,241 --> 00:45:28,676 with any kind of joy in His heart. 929 00:45:28,676 --> 00:45:30,495 I don't think He does that going, 930 00:45:30,495 --> 00:45:32,496 "Well, you're going to really mess up, 931 00:45:32,496 --> 00:45:35,683 and you deserve it," kind of attitude. 932 00:45:35,683 --> 00:45:42,121 But, if we persist in demanding something, 933 00:45:42,121 --> 00:45:47,757 God will allow that to happen. 934 00:45:47,757 --> 00:45:53,478 Let's see, Jorge, Romans 1:22-25. 935 00:45:53,478 --> 00:45:56,397 (Jorge) Romans 1:22-25, I'll be reading 936 00:45:56,397 --> 00:45:59,491 from the New King James Version, it says: 937 00:46:33,624 --> 00:46:37,068 (Derek) What was the expression there, God did what? 938 00:46:37,068 --> 00:46:38,112 (Team) Gave them up. 939 00:46:38,112 --> 00:46:40,315 (Derek) He gave them up. 940 00:46:40,315 --> 00:46:41,886 Now, please, that's not the same 941 00:46:41,886 --> 00:46:44,792 as "gave up on them," right, 942 00:46:44,792 --> 00:46:48,008 because He will pursue us 943 00:46:48,008 --> 00:46:50,545 with an immeasurable and unfailing love 944 00:46:50,545 --> 00:46:52,821 until our final breath. 945 00:46:52,821 --> 00:46:55,733 But giving them up means what? 946 00:46:55,733 --> 00:46:58,256 (Travis) Let them have their way. 947 00:46:58,256 --> 00:47:00,448 (Derek) Let them have their way. 948 00:47:00,448 --> 00:47:03,132 And of course, history tells us 949 00:47:03,132 --> 00:47:06,471 what happened to the nation. 950 00:47:06,471 --> 00:47:08,914 Now, in the closing section, we want 951 00:47:08,914 --> 00:47:12,433 to look at how, just as He desired 952 00:47:12,433 --> 00:47:16,237 the nation bringing up through Abraham 953 00:47:16,237 --> 00:47:19,594 to be different, He wants His church 954 00:47:19,594 --> 00:47:22,109 to be radically different 955 00:47:22,109 --> 00:47:24,456 from the nations. 956 00:47:24,456 --> 00:47:26,788 But earlier Nicole said we could fall 957 00:47:26,788 --> 00:47:29,050 into the same trap. 958 00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:32,017 But let's look at what Jesus has to say. 959 00:47:32,017 --> 00:47:34,630 Leeah, if you could take us to Matthew, 960 00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:38,409 chapter 20, I think this is 961 00:47:38,409 --> 00:47:40,678 a really important passage, 962 00:47:40,678 --> 00:47:46,417 Matthew 20, verses 25 through 28, 963 00:47:46,417 --> 00:47:50,638 because really, if you are of faith, 964 00:47:50,638 --> 00:47:52,940 Scripture says, you're Abraham's seed. 965 00:47:52,940 --> 00:47:56,261 So, the people of God 966 00:47:56,261 --> 00:47:59,881 post the coming of Jesus 967 00:47:59,881 --> 00:48:02,634 are His church, right? 968 00:48:02,634 --> 00:48:04,723 And He desires His church, 969 00:48:04,723 --> 00:48:05,676 would you say then, 970 00:48:05,676 --> 00:48:07,236 to be a light to the world? 971 00:48:07,236 --> 00:48:08,216 (Team) Yes. 972 00:48:08,216 --> 00:48:10,308 (Derek) And He desires His church 973 00:48:10,308 --> 00:48:13,911 not to have the attitude of the nations. 974 00:48:13,911 --> 00:48:17,816 Let's see, Leeah, what counsel Jesus gave. 975 00:48:17,816 --> 00:48:19,043 (Leeah) Alright, Matthew, 976 00:48:19,043 --> 00:48:23,208 chapter 20, verses 25 to 28, 977 00:48:23,208 --> 00:48:25,155 the English Standard Version says: 978 00:48:51,121 --> 00:48:52,773 (Derek) So, we could, in the place 979 00:48:52,773 --> 00:48:55,936 of "the Gentiles," put "the nations," 980 00:48:55,936 --> 00:48:58,968 right, "lord it over each other, 981 00:48:58,968 --> 00:49:05,258 but it shall not be that way among you. 982 00:49:05,258 --> 00:49:06,811 But you should be a servant," 983 00:49:06,811 --> 00:49:08,504 and, of course, even Jesus, 984 00:49:08,504 --> 00:49:10,339 the Son of Man, was a servant. 985 00:49:10,339 --> 00:49:11,928 Look at the history 986 00:49:11,928 --> 00:49:14,884 of the Christian church. 987 00:49:14,884 --> 00:49:16,863 Let's start at the very beginning 988 00:49:16,863 --> 00:49:18,582 in the book of Acts. 989 00:49:18,582 --> 00:49:22,271 Where do you see 990 00:49:22,271 --> 00:49:27,220 the character of a loving God revealed 991 00:49:27,220 --> 00:49:28,416 in the character 992 00:49:28,416 --> 00:49:30,850 of the early Christian church, 993 00:49:30,850 --> 00:49:32,911 the new nation? 994 00:49:32,911 --> 00:49:35,328 Where do you see it manifested? 995 00:49:35,328 --> 00:49:37,351 From your reading, what do you know? 996 00:49:37,351 --> 00:49:39,650 (Travis) In Acts, chapter [2], it says 997 00:49:39,650 --> 00:49:41,768 they shared with one another 998 00:49:41,768 --> 00:49:44,929 so that none had more than the other. 999 00:49:44,929 --> 00:49:47,311 (Derek) Yes, Acts 2 and Acts 4 also. 1000 00:49:47,311 --> 00:49:50,147 It says that they held everything in common. Jenner? 1001 00:49:50,147 --> 00:49:51,505 (Jenner) Yes, "with gladness 1002 00:49:51,505 --> 00:49:53,277 and simplicity of heart." 1003 00:49:53,277 --> 00:49:54,465 (Derek) They ate together 1004 00:49:54,465 --> 00:49:57,447 "with gladness and simplicity of heart." 1005 00:49:57,447 --> 00:49:59,546 And if there was a need, 1006 00:49:59,546 --> 00:50:03,601 people like Barnabas sold a piece of land, 1007 00:50:03,601 --> 00:50:06,193 brought [the money] to the Apostles' feet. 1008 00:50:06,193 --> 00:50:10,564 It's very much, what? 1009 00:50:10,564 --> 00:50:12,700 What is it a reflection of? 1010 00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:15,228 (Derek, Team) The character of God. 1011 00:50:15,228 --> 00:50:19,177 (Derek) Right? That's the picture 1012 00:50:19,177 --> 00:50:20,390 of the early church. 1013 00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:22,778 But if you do a scan 1014 00:50:22,778 --> 00:50:24,528 through church history 1015 00:50:24,528 --> 00:50:27,924 through the centuries, where do you see 1016 00:50:27,924 --> 00:50:30,534 this kingly power start 1017 00:50:30,534 --> 00:50:33,410 to manifest itself? 1018 00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:36,536 Anybody a student of church history? Puia. 1019 00:50:36,536 --> 00:50:37,882 (Puia) So, when we look back 1020 00:50:37,882 --> 00:50:39,363 in church history, we see 1021 00:50:39,363 --> 00:50:42,746 that probably around the fourth century especially, 1022 00:50:42,746 --> 00:50:46,286 the church began to court 1023 00:50:46,286 --> 00:50:48,288 the power of the state, 1024 00:50:48,288 --> 00:50:50,167 and eventually there was a combination, 1025 00:50:50,167 --> 00:50:52,666 a union, between the church and the state. 1026 00:50:52,666 --> 00:50:54,719 And as a result, the church was 1027 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,161 corrupted with power, a desire 1028 00:50:57,161 --> 00:50:58,929 to act like a king. 1029 00:50:58,929 --> 00:51:03,259 And the church in turn persecuted 1030 00:51:03,259 --> 00:51:05,049 a lot of God's own people. 1031 00:51:05,049 --> 00:51:06,660 And the darkest chapters 1032 00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:08,972 of Christian history is filled 1033 00:51:08,972 --> 00:51:12,646 with the church persecuting God's people 1034 00:51:12,646 --> 00:51:15,012 through the power of the state. 1035 00:51:15,012 --> 00:51:16,870 (Derek) We're going to study about that 1036 00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:19,102 in our next program 1037 00:51:19,102 --> 00:51:22,224 because that is exactly what happens. 1038 00:51:22,224 --> 00:51:25,065 And instead of the light of God 1039 00:51:25,065 --> 00:51:26,805 shining in the people of God, 1040 00:51:26,805 --> 00:51:30,884 drawing others to the church of God, 1041 00:51:30,884 --> 00:51:35,779 they use violence to try 1042 00:51:35,779 --> 00:51:39,426 to force people, which was not 1043 00:51:39,426 --> 00:51:41,339 the character of God at all. 1044 00:51:41,339 --> 00:51:42,777 That's actually the character 1045 00:51:42,777 --> 00:51:46,322 of the fallen angel, right? 1046 00:51:46,322 --> 00:51:51,232 So, how do we avoid falling into the trap 1047 00:51:51,232 --> 00:51:57,815 of using the methods of the nations 1048 00:51:57,815 --> 00:52:01,694 and staying as God wants His church to be, 1049 00:52:01,694 --> 00:52:03,585 a light to the world? 1050 00:52:03,585 --> 00:52:07,766 How do we avoid that trap? 1051 00:52:07,766 --> 00:52:09,011 (Travis) Humble ourselves. 1052 00:52:09,011 --> 00:52:11,176 (Derek) Okay, Travis, talk to me about that. 1053 00:52:11,176 --> 00:52:12,283 What did you say? 1054 00:52:12,283 --> 00:52:15,324 (Travis) Humble ourselves before God. 1055 00:52:15,324 --> 00:52:16,907 (Derek) Especially if He puts you 1056 00:52:16,907 --> 00:52:19,462 in a position of leadership, right? 1057 00:52:19,462 --> 00:52:22,603 When you stand up to teach the class, 1058 00:52:22,603 --> 00:52:25,072 it's like, "Lord, hide me behind You," 1059 00:52:25,072 --> 00:52:26,985 right? Yes, James? 1060 00:52:26,985 --> 00:52:29,882 (James) When we recognize that we are 1061 00:52:29,882 --> 00:52:31,366 part of a royal priesthood, 1062 00:52:31,366 --> 00:52:34,847 a chosen nation, in God we know 1063 00:52:34,847 --> 00:52:37,234 that the Great Commission 1064 00:52:37,234 --> 00:52:39,452 of going into all the world is not 1065 00:52:39,452 --> 00:52:41,915 that of Nimrod or of Satan, 1066 00:52:41,915 --> 00:52:44,408 which was meant for conquering, 1067 00:52:44,408 --> 00:52:47,560 but rather to conquer hearts. 1068 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,590 I use that word loosely, to convert hearts 1069 00:52:50,590 --> 00:52:53,351 to Jesus so that we can live 1070 00:52:53,351 --> 00:52:55,738 in harmony and interdependence. 1071 00:52:55,738 --> 00:52:58,038 That's what I see in the book of Acts, 1072 00:52:58,038 --> 00:52:59,640 people living communally 1073 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,128 with interdependence and living for God. 1074 00:53:03,128 --> 00:53:04,846 (Derek) You know, the text that you 1075 00:53:04,846 --> 00:53:06,660 quoted there, "You are 1076 00:53:06,660 --> 00:53:10,367 a chosen generation," 1 Peter 2:9, 1077 00:53:10,367 --> 00:53:13,914 "a royal priesthood, a holy..."? 1078 00:53:13,914 --> 00:53:14,836 (Team) "...nation." 1079 00:53:14,836 --> 00:53:16,684 (Derek) Ah! There's the word. 1080 00:53:16,684 --> 00:53:19,378 You've got the nations, but you are 1081 00:53:19,378 --> 00:53:21,326 a holy nation, but back to something 1082 00:53:21,326 --> 00:53:22,729 Nicole said earlier, 1083 00:53:22,729 --> 00:53:29,443 "His own special people," peculiar. 1084 00:53:29,443 --> 00:53:30,908 (Jenner) God's own possession. 1085 00:53:30,908 --> 00:53:33,290 (Derek) Yeah, God's own possession, 1086 00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:35,496 but hear the last part, 1087 00:53:35,496 --> 00:53:39,151 "That you may proclaim [your praises]." 1088 00:53:39,151 --> 00:53:41,828 (Team) No! 1089 00:53:41,828 --> 00:53:44,118 (Derek) "Is not this great Babylon 1090 00:53:44,118 --> 00:53:45,710 that I have built," no, no, 1091 00:53:45,710 --> 00:53:48,539 Or, "Is not this great church...," or, no. 1092 00:53:48,539 --> 00:53:51,010 "That you may declare the praises of..."? 1093 00:53:51,010 --> 00:53:52,232 (Derek, Team) "...Him..." 1094 00:53:52,232 --> 00:53:54,124 (Derek) "...who called you out of..."? 1095 00:53:54,124 --> 00:53:55,612 (Derek, Team) "...darkness..." 1096 00:53:55,612 --> 00:53:56,580 (Derek) "...into.."? 1097 00:53:56,580 --> 00:53:58,265 (Team) "...His marvelous light." 1098 00:53:58,265 --> 00:53:59,978 (Derek) Oh, man, that's God's ideal. 1099 00:53:59,978 --> 00:54:01,899 Jorge, talk to me about that, 1100 00:54:01,899 --> 00:54:05,288 because that is so different 1101 00:54:05,288 --> 00:54:09,524 from the kingdoms of the world. 1102 00:54:09,524 --> 00:54:11,221 (Jorge) Yes, and I think, to answer 1103 00:54:11,221 --> 00:54:13,164 your question, how can we not fall 1104 00:54:13,164 --> 00:54:15,749 into that same trap, is by remembering 1105 00:54:15,749 --> 00:54:18,902 that He is the vine, we are the branches. 1106 00:54:18,902 --> 00:54:20,742 And we need to stay abiding 1107 00:54:20,742 --> 00:54:22,740 in Him constantly. 1108 00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:25,040 And He will keep us from ourselves 1109 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,433 and going into a place that would cause us 1110 00:54:27,433 --> 00:54:28,668 to deter from where He 1111 00:54:28,668 --> 00:54:30,579 would have us to be. 1112 00:54:30,579 --> 00:54:32,895 (Derek) We are not more loved by God 1113 00:54:32,895 --> 00:54:36,231 than any in the nations; is that right? 1114 00:54:36,231 --> 00:54:38,226 God loves all of His children 1115 00:54:38,226 --> 00:54:40,687 in the same way, but He wants us 1116 00:54:40,687 --> 00:54:45,274 to go out as servants to the nations 1117 00:54:45,274 --> 00:54:47,289 to share the light of God with them. 1118 00:54:47,289 --> 00:54:49,078 So, I want, in the few minutes 1119 00:54:49,078 --> 00:54:52,116 that's closing, remotes, be ready, too, 1120 00:54:52,116 --> 00:54:54,817 to share a time when God 1121 00:54:54,817 --> 00:54:57,303 sent you out to the nations. 1122 00:54:57,303 --> 00:54:59,003 It's one thing to just stay at home 1123 00:54:59,003 --> 00:55:00,790 and try to stay out of trouble, 1124 00:55:00,790 --> 00:55:04,043 but God sends us out to the nations 1125 00:55:04,043 --> 00:55:05,715 to be a witness. 1126 00:55:05,715 --> 00:55:07,513 Anybody have a time you want to share 1127 00:55:07,513 --> 00:55:11,133 when God did that for you? Yes, Puia. 1128 00:55:11,133 --> 00:55:12,692 (Puia) I actually want to answer 1129 00:55:12,692 --> 00:55:14,404 in a slightly different way. 1130 00:55:14,404 --> 00:55:17,823 I'm so thankful for the missionaries 1131 00:55:17,823 --> 00:55:21,527 who came to my land, to my ancestors, 1132 00:55:21,527 --> 00:55:24,580 to Mizoram and Burma, 1133 00:55:24,580 --> 00:55:27,199 to tells us about this light, 1134 00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:29,535 and becoming a light to the Gentiles. 1135 00:55:29,535 --> 00:55:31,420 And as a result of those missionaries, 1136 00:55:31,420 --> 00:55:33,789 we came to learn, I came to learn 1137 00:55:33,789 --> 00:55:35,698 this message about Jesus. 1138 00:55:35,698 --> 00:55:37,926 I'm so thankful for missionaries. 1139 00:55:37,926 --> 00:55:39,275 (Derek) Has God sent you out 1140 00:55:39,275 --> 00:55:41,090 at any time to the nations, too? 1141 00:55:41,090 --> 00:55:42,025 (Puia) Yes, I have. 1142 00:55:42,025 --> 00:55:43,982 I have traveled, and I have preached, 1143 00:55:43,982 --> 00:55:45,194 and it's a result 1144 00:55:45,194 --> 00:55:46,729 of one person stepping out, 1145 00:55:46,729 --> 00:55:50,438 and the ripple effects continue. 1146 00:55:50,438 --> 00:55:51,737 (Derek) Now, Jorge, I know 1147 00:55:51,737 --> 00:55:56,912 you're about to go to the Philippines. 1148 00:55:56,912 --> 00:56:00,111 What motivated you to sacrifice the time 1149 00:56:00,111 --> 00:56:03,138 and the resources to go out 1150 00:56:03,138 --> 00:56:06,505 on that mission to the nations? 1151 00:56:06,505 --> 00:56:11,136 (Jorge) Yes, we had Henry Suluvale, a gentleman 1152 00:56:11,136 --> 00:56:16,482 who came by and did a vespers, as it were, 1153 00:56:16,482 --> 00:56:19,085 on a mission trip that he did 1154 00:56:19,085 --> 00:56:20,703 in Papua New Guinea. 1155 00:56:20,703 --> 00:56:24,140 And he gave, I guess, a little exposé 1156 00:56:24,140 --> 00:56:26,458 of his experience and the thousands 1157 00:56:26,458 --> 00:56:27,559 and thousands of people 1158 00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:30,230 that were baptized as a result. 1159 00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:33,762 And there was a small group of us there, 1160 00:56:33,762 --> 00:56:35,477 and, well, we were listening 1161 00:56:35,477 --> 00:56:37,754 to his experience and how people 1162 00:56:37,754 --> 00:56:39,270 were moved, the different works 1163 00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:40,085 that were needed, 1164 00:56:40,085 --> 00:56:41,417 the needs that were there, 1165 00:56:41,417 --> 00:56:43,085 and he expressed how they were going 1166 00:56:43,085 --> 00:56:45,658 to do a mission trip in the Philippines. 1167 00:56:45,658 --> 00:56:47,459 We jumped at the opportunity 1168 00:56:47,459 --> 00:56:49,399 as we understood that God was leading us 1169 00:56:49,399 --> 00:56:52,085 to say, "We have the time, we have 1170 00:56:52,085 --> 00:56:54,670 the health, we have the resources; 1171 00:56:54,670 --> 00:56:56,705 let's give them to the Lord while we can." 1172 00:56:56,705 --> 00:57:00,376 And so, we're heading over there to do it. 1173 00:57:00,376 --> 00:57:01,641 (Derek) And I want to hear 1174 00:57:01,641 --> 00:57:03,686 in an upcoming program, Jorge, 1175 00:57:03,686 --> 00:57:05,617 what happens, okay? 1176 00:57:05,617 --> 00:57:08,784 So, you take some notes. 1177 00:57:08,784 --> 00:57:11,919 We may not all go to Palawan, 1178 00:57:11,919 --> 00:57:13,746 We may not all go to Mizoram 1179 00:57:13,746 --> 00:57:15,746 because we don't speak the Mizo language, 1180 00:57:15,746 --> 00:57:18,657 or we don't speak Burmese, 1181 00:57:18,657 --> 00:57:22,290 but God has a mission for each one of us. 1182 00:57:22,290 --> 00:57:24,283 He wants us not to attract attention 1183 00:57:24,283 --> 00:57:27,253 to ourselves but to let the light of Jesus 1184 00:57:27,253 --> 00:57:29,288 shine through us to the nations 1185 00:57:29,288 --> 00:57:31,239 because He loves all of His children. 1186 00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:32,945 Will you accept that challenge? 1187 00:57:32,945 --> 00:57:34,994 By the way, that's a lesson 1188 00:57:34,994 --> 00:57:38,374 for the last days of this earth's history. 1189 00:57:38,374 --> 00:57:39,466 Let's pray together. 1190 00:57:39,466 --> 00:57:42,851 Father in Heaven, that You would call us 1191 00:57:42,851 --> 00:57:45,104 to bring a life-changing message 1192 00:57:45,104 --> 00:57:47,456 to the nations is quite remarkable. 1193 00:57:47,456 --> 00:57:48,611 But thank You that those 1194 00:57:48,611 --> 00:57:50,509 You call You enable. 1195 00:57:50,509 --> 00:57:53,154 And may Your presence be with us as we go. 1196 00:57:53,154 --> 00:57:55,097 In Jesus' name. Amen. 1197 00:57:55,097 --> 00:57:55,881 (Team) Amen. 1198 00:57:55,881 --> 00:57:57,309 (Derek) Friend, whether you go 1199 00:57:57,309 --> 00:57:59,083 to your neighbor or across the world, 1200 00:57:59,083 --> 00:58:00,526 take the light of Jesus 1201 00:58:00,526 --> 00:58:02,260 to dispel the darkness. 1202 00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:04,160 Be a blessing to those around you. 1203 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:28,425 ♪ theme music ♪