WEBVTT 00:00:01.400 --> 00:00:04.020 "Well, I'm known professionally as Mike Giant." 00:00:07.420 --> 00:00:12.060 "Giant isn't my official last name as the goverment knows it." 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:19.480 "Originally, in 1995, I got a job at Think Skateboards in San Francisco 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:22.560 where at that time when I entered the art department it was Mike Giant there." 00:00:22.560 --> 00:00:27.200 "That was my first full-time art job right out of college." 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:29.460 "And I even didn't finish college." 00:00:29.460 --> 00:00:32.560 "I just got the job opportunity and split." 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:34.560 "I guess within a year, Mike had left there 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:36.380 and had been talking to Doug, 00:00:36.380 --> 00:00:38.980 and Doug replaced him and entered the art department then, 00:00:38.980 --> 00:00:41.940 and we kind of hit it off collaborating at that time." 00:00:41.940 --> 00:00:45.960 "I had an illustration background and Jason was graphic design." 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:47.800 "First time we've collaborated with Mike [Giant] 00:00:47.800 --> 00:00:51.200 even though we've known him for pretty much over 20 years." 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:06.540 "Skateboarding, in particular, was really a formative thing 00:01:06.540 --> 00:01:10.160 because I skated alone a lot and would just work on tricks 00:01:10.160 --> 00:01:13.840 and just crash a lot and hurt myself over and over, 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:16.800 but I would just keep at it, and keep at it, and keep at it, 00:01:16.800 --> 00:01:18.700 and eventually I would succeed." 00:01:18.700 --> 00:01:22.720 "And I think just that spirit alone is a really 00:01:22.720 --> 00:01:25.580 good thing to take on into adulthood, 00:01:25.580 --> 00:01:28.080 you know, knowing that every time you try something new, 00:01:28.080 --> 00:01:29.400 you're going to fall on your face, 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:30.980 and it's going to be embarrassing, 00:01:30.980 --> 00:01:32.580 but eventually you'll get it." 00:01:32.600 --> 00:01:34.920 "And then you can kinda start to get cocky about it, 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.040 and get stylish even, and that's a whole other level to it 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.300 which I think is really cool because that's like art." 00:01:55.080 --> 00:01:56.680 "By the time I was 14 or 15-years old, 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:58.680 I knew I wasn't going to be a legit job guy, 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:00.160 and I had to create my own lifestyle, 00:02:00.160 --> 00:02:03.220 and I wanted to do it, and it takes passion to want to do that." 00:02:03.780 --> 00:02:05.820 "There is no other choice for us. This is what we're going to do." 00:02:05.820 --> 00:02:09.080 "There's no reason you can't just achieve whatever you want to, 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.640 you know, because most of it just takes concentration 00:02:11.640 --> 00:02:14.080 and effort, you know, and practice, 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:15.640 and you'll get what you want."