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Well, I'm known professionally as Mike Giant.

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Giant isn't my official last name as the government knows it.

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Originally, in 1995, I got a job at Think Skateboards in San Francisco,

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where at that time when I entered the art department it was Mike Giant there.

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That was my first full-time art job right out of college.

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And I even didn't finish college.

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I just got the job opportunity and split.

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I guess within a year, Mike had left there

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and had been talking to Doug,

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and Doug replaced him and entered the art department then,

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and we kind of hit it off collaborating at that time.

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I had an illustration background and Jason was graphic design.

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First time we've collaborated with Mike,

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even though we've known him for pretty much over 20 years.

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Skateboarding, in particular,

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was really a formative thing because I skated alone a lot and would just work on tricks

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and just crash a lot and hurt myself over and over,

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but I would just keep at it, and keep at it, and keep at it,

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and eventually I would succeed.

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And I think just that spirit alone is a really good thing to take on into adulthood,

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you know, knowing that every time you try something new,

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you're going to fall on your face,

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and it's going to be embarrassing,

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but eventually you'll get it.

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And then you can kinda start to get cocky about it,

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and get stylish even, and that's a whole other level to it

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which I think is really cool because that's like art.

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By the time I was 14 or 15-years old,

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I knew I wasn't going to be a legit job guy,

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and I had to create my own lifestyle,

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and I wanted to do it, and it takes passion to want to do that.

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There is no other choice for us. This is what we're going to do.

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There's no reason you can't just achieve whatever you want to,

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you know, because most of it just takes concentration

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and effort, you know, and practice,

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and you'll get what you want.