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I'm so excited to be here with all of you

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and to have this conversation

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I think we have six people
joining us on Skype from around the world,

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so perhaps we could bring them up.

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Hello!

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(June Cohen) Hello!

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I'm waving at the screen,
I should be waving here, I think,

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It's so good to see you all!

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You know, I always love to start
with a quick round of introductions,

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because I'm so fascinated
by everyone who's here,

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so maybe we can start in Bologna.

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All right, that would be me, then.

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I'm Alberto, I'm from Italy, obviously.

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And I translate into Italian.

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Thank you, Alberto.

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And let's see if I can pronounce
every city up there.

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I'm going to try...
Pune!

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Hey, it's Abhishek Suryawanshi
from Pune, India.

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And which languages do you translate into?

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I translate into Marathi and Hindi.

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That is great, and maybe
we'll come into the room.

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I'm Els, I come from Belgium.

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I translate into Dutch,
which is my mother tongue,

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and also into French and Italian.

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I'm Anwar from Sudan,
I translate into Arabic.

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I'm Kristine from Armenia
and I translate into Armenian.

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I'm Wataru, I'm from Tokyo
and I translate into Japanese.

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And we're going to go back
around the world.

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And can I go to you, Hanna?

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Hi, I'm Hanna
and I translate into Ukrainian.

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And to Christel.

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Hello, I'm Christel, I'm Belgian,

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I translate into Dutch.

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Hi, Els!

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(Els De Keyser) Hi!

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(Laughter)

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(June Cohen) Everyone knows Els.

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(Dutch) Good morning!

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And to Meric.

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(Meric Aydonat) Hello, I'm Meric.

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I'm from Turkey
and I translate into Turkish.

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(June Cohen) I have to tell you
that my favorite part

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literally of every conference

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is getting to talk
to some of our translators,

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because I just find you to be
the most inspiring community

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I've ever come across.

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But one of the things
I'd love to start with

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is something some of you know
but maybe some of you don't,

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which is that the Translation Project
was not our idea.

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It was yours.

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So, we launched TEDTalks
almost seven years ago,

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and from the moment
that we put the talks online,

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within weeks, we actually started getting
emails from people around the world,

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saying, "We want to translate
these talks."

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And one of the things that struck me was,

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we'd get emails that said, "I want
to translate these into Polish, Spanish...

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Here, I've already translated this
into Hebrew.

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Here!"

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And what was so interesting to me
about these emails

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was that they, you, weren't asking us
to translate the talks.

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You were saying,
"We want to translate these talks."

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"We want to make them available,
we want to be a part of this.

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We want to help."

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And that was a profound moment for me,

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the realization of the generosity
that was in the world.

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And so, we actually eventually listened.

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And these emails actually became
a little more insistent.

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They went from "I would like to translate"

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to "Here's what we think you should do.

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Launch a project that allows anybody
to translate the talk into any language.

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And here's some technology
you could use for it, come on!

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So basically, we have listened
to this community from the very beginning.

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This is entirely the reason
that we launched the Translation Project.

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It's because you told us to.

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And so, for the last four years,
we've been following this community

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and [we've been] amazed and humbled
to see where you've taken us so far.

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So, you all know the numbers.

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40,000 translations,
more than 100 languages.

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We're beginning to move
from just subtitling

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to translation of the website itself,

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we're going to start looking at dubbing
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again, because you're telling us to.

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And one of the things
I also think is really exciting

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is that we're now moving in the direction
of translating TEDx talks

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that are filmed not in English,
but in all of your languages,

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and bringing the ideas and people
that are native to where you're from

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back into English and around the world.

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So, I think the potential
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of what's coming out
of this community is so profound.

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And so, where I would love
to start the conversation,

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because I always just love hearing this,

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is I'd love to start
with why each of you translates.

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What motivates you,
what brought you to the Project,

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and why you continue.

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Would somebody coming in
over Skype like to start?

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I'd love to hear why you translate,
why did you start?

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For me, it started with Brené Brown.

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It was such a nice and inspiring talk.

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I wanted to show it to my friend,

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and she didn't speak English
or read English.

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So, then I saw that I could volunteer
for translating, and I did.

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And since then, I'm addicted
to translating TEDTalks

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because they are so inspiring.

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(June Cohen) I love that.
Brené will do that to you.

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(Laughter)

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And Meric, I think you had a thought.

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I initially started

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because I wanted schoolchildren
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because that is such an important
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and TEDTalks offer perspectives
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like sociology, psychology,
medicine, engineering.

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So, they would watch
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and in the end, they'd understand
what they want in their lives

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and do what they want to do
with their lives.

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So, I started because I wanted children
to be able to understand them,

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and then, I started receiving emails
from so many people,

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thanking me for my translations.

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And I just love it!

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(Laughter)

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I love hearing
that you're getting these thanks.

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We don't always know when that happens.

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But Kristin and I talked about this
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that we wanted a system set up

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so that the community
would have access to the translators.

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And we view you as big rock stars
as the speakers themselves,

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so we love hearing
that that communication is happening.

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What about back into the room?

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One or two of your thoughts on
why you translate.

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For me, it's always about access,

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giving others access to knowledge.

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The new technologies, the new sciences,
the new thoughts in psychology,

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in engineering, medicine
and all kinds of stuff.

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And being from Sudan,
this is more sensitive to me.

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It's not a matter of choice
for someone to consume this content.

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It's a matter of scarcity.

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There is no content over there.

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So by participating
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that gives people access to knowledge.

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The original content.

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It's one of the things
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picking up from what you and Meric said.

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We all know the feeling of being inspired
by a great speaker or teacher,

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and not everyone has access
to these great teachers or knowledge.

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And to be able to take
the best of the best

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and make them available
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which is the fundamentals
of what you are doing,

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is so inspiring for us
and core to TED's mission, I feel.

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Do you find that you often
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or researching specific words
as you delve into it, to translate?

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There's a lot of nods.

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(Laughter)

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Alberto!

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I don't really remember any specific ones.

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It happened a lot of times
that I was translating things,

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mostly, it was technical stuff,

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but also philosophical
or psychological issues.

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And then, I started researching
a couple of words,

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and then, I started opening up Wikipedia,

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and then links from here to there,

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and I lost a couple of hours
just reading stuff.

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(Laughter)

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(Alberto Pagani)
And it happened over and over again.

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And now I know I learned a whole lot
about a whole lot of things

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just because [of that].

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There are a lot of nods for that,
both on Skype and in the room.

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I feel like you guys should get
a bachelor's degree

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for each talk that you translate.

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(Laughter)

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Right? It's like a senior research paper.

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Complexity's complex.

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(Els De Keyser) Yeah!

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Think about it.
Complexity is complex.

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(Els De Keyser) OK.

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You have to translate that
into your language.

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And then, most of the time,
you don't have the words,

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the appropriate words
to translate into your language.

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So, you have to invent.

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And it's really interesting.

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You jump into the dark.

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And you don't know what will happen there.

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One day, you might get a thank-you note.

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"I didn't find the translation
for that word."

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Or, you find: "That is not correct!"

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(Laughter)

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You're like, "Right."

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And at TED, we've learned
to say "thank you."

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(Laughter)

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(June Cohen) "We will fix that."

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It's such an interesting question,
let's follow that for a moment.

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Because I feel like one
of the probably many interesting things

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about translating for TED

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is that our speakers tend to be
at the edge of their fields,

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and therefore they are
at the edge of language.

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And some of the words
are actually evolving.

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As you said, there may not be words yet
in every language.

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Is this something that many of you
have experienced?

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Sometimes, it's even
for the core TED concepts

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that it's difficult to find a translation.

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Like the concept of "TED talk"
or "TED Fellow."

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It has to be very short.

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"TEDx event" is maybe a little easier.

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"Fellow," I know, is a difficult one.

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And so now,
when we're translating the website,

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we have to be careful about how to do that

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And in some languages,
it appears to be quite a challenge.

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Not in mine, but...

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Right, I would imagine that, actually.

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And we always pick these words
that are quite specific.

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(Els De Keyser) Yeah.

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I find the combination
of the way that things work in this,

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both the grassroots collaboration
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and it happens
between translator and reviewer...

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For the couple of people who don't know,

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for every translation,
there has to be a reviewer,

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you have to agree on the translation.

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So there's a one-on-one collaboration.

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And then, there's the larger collaboration
among your language group

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and the larger collaboration
among all the translators.

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And I'm curious, what have you learned
about that along the way?

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We have people with different skills

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and they each bring something
to the Project.

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So, someone made a scheme,

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somebody else looked
at the technical solutions

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to give access to information, and so on.

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So, it's really this combination,

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and like you said, it's a collaboration
at different levels.

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Yes.

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(Els De Keyser) And in the beginning,

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it was always
only a translator and reviewer,

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but for a couple of years,
we've also had Language Coordinators.

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So, a couple of people
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who act as, I would say, mentors.

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(June Cohen) Mentors,
and volunteer leaders.

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And that has also emerged.

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And that's also very interesting,

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in that among this community
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we also collaborate,

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because we face the same issues
in our languages.

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So, I can learn from him,

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I can learn from Kristine
even if I don't speak her language.

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We have the same experience.

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It's so interesting!

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So, going on to Skype,

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are there any lessons you have learned
about collaboration

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or things that worked that surprised you,

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or situations that you were able
to navigate in a twosome or as a group.

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Any thoughts there?

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So, I have learned the power,
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because it's so important.

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People love it when somebody
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and you can start
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And something that I have done recently

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is sometimes, I send the translator
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that I read about the subject of the talk.

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So, an article from a newspaper
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So, I send that article to that person.

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"OK, if you're interested in the subject,
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And that person sometimes sends me
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and you start a conversation
and you learn so many more things

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because of this collaboration that we have

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between translators and reviewers
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Anyone else on Skype have a thought
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what you've learned from each other,
how it's worked?

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Abhishek?

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Yes, it helps specifically when there are
difficult words we need to translate.

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Specific words like Internet,
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which we had to use it like Internet only,

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but at the same time, the small terms
which we need to use.

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So, for that, the Facebook group
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And the interesting thing which I found
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the Wikipedians who are active
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those people also translate TEDTalks.

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So that was a really interesting
observation and collaboration.

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If I'm having some difficulties,
I will post it in the Facebook group,

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and within one or two hours,
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That's such a great way to use
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Because I imagine, all of the translators
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but being able to tap into that community
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seems such a great solution.

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Before I forget, please allow me to say,

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a huge "thank you" to Kristin Windbigler.

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(June Cohen) Right?

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(Applause)

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(June Cohen) I think we all feel the same.

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Both with Kristin, who has courageously
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and to the full team around her,

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this is their work
but it's also their passion and joy.

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And what I always hear from them

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is just how amazed they are
with all of you.

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So, this is something
that I hope each of you knows.

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I think we're coming
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so we'll have to wrap up in a moment.

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But one of the things
we want each of you to hear

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is every day, we talk about how inspired
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and how much we learn from you.

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And I think that's one of the things
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that we're constantly learning
from how you translate,

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from how you organize yourselves,

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from the leadership
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So excited to see where it goes
in the year ahead.

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And I would love for each of you
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to keep in touch with us.

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I'm june@ted.com,
and also through Kristin.

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Where you want to see the Project go,
where you want to see TED head from here.

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So, thank you all for coming!

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(Els De Keyser) Thank you.

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(June Cohen) Thank you so much,
and to each of you on Skype.

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I'm sorry we got cut off
by the walk-in music.

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Thank you.