[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.31,0:00:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.78,0:00:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I come from a pretty traditional Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.29,0:00:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sculpture background in the sense that I\Nspent four years Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.74,0:00:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in art school, literally just making things. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.54,0:00:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, to hand-make something mean Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.12,0:00:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to process it. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.29,0:00:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, it comes into your head, Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.67,0:00:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it moves\Nthrough your body, Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.26,0:00:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then it gets pushed back Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.24,0:00:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out into the world. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.00,0:00:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[sewing machine whirring] Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.81,0:01:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm interested in how objects reflect\Ncultural moments. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.70,0:01:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think I'm trying to figure out, you know,\Nwhy we value what we value. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.15,0:01:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[electronic music] Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.47,0:01:14.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So with the\N"Counterfeit Crochet Project," Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.87,0:01:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I invited crochet crafters from all over the world Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.60,0:01:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to join me in bootlegging\Ndesigner handbags. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.35,0:01:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The invitation was to choose a designer handbag that you would like to own, Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.53,0:01:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but couldn't afford, download an image from\Nit online Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.96,0:01:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then using your own crochet crafting skills, hand-make it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.93,0:01:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And interestingly, it touched a nerve, and, you know, lots of people started to join up, Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.82,0:01:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then send me photographs of\Nthemselves with their handmade bags. Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.11,0:01:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was fun and lighthearted,\Nbut invariably what would happen was,\Nyou know, Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.96,0:01:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we would have these really great\Ndiscussions about everything from the Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.90,0:02:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hierarchy of the fashion system to you know, \Nglobal counterfeiting schemes. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.27,0:02:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think one of the reasons I got\Ninterested in this idea of like bootlegs Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.82,0:02:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or counterfeits is actually, it's an\Nextension from this idea that there is Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.24,0:02:16.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an authentic, and you know from a very\Npersonal standpoint Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.05,0:02:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was really curious about what it meant to be an authentic, um, Filipino. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.100,0:02:26.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking a lot about historical Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.46,0:02:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ethnographic photography Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.60,0:02:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Specifically, um, images I'd\Nseen taken in the Philippines. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.65,0:02:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.10,0:02:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the whole series is made in Omaha\NNebraska, which I think is hilarious Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.69,0:02:46.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had gone\Nto the shopping malls, Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.82,0:02:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and using my credit card, purchased mass-consumer goods, Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.88,0:02:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took them back to my studio,\Nand then styled them. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.00,0:03:02.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then returned them all\Nto the department stores for full store credit. Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.30,0:03:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was kind of this way of thinking about what we wanna consume in those images, Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.21,0:03:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,partaking in it, but then also denying it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.32,0:03:18.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something that, um... Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.80,0:03:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a portrait of\Nmy mother and myself, Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.81,0:03:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, not long after we moved to, \Nthe U.S. from the Philippines. Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.36,0:03:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then for my birthday, she decided to take me to Disneyland. Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.14,0:03:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so this photograph is actually, Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.83,0:03:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, in the Frontierland, where you can pay to have your portrait Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.57,0:03:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taken after you put on all these western\Ncostumes. Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.42,0:03:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, you know, at the time we were\Ntrying on these fictional identities of Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.20,0:03:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it might have looked like to be a\Nnew American. Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.26,0:03:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also, I mean,\Nit's an amazing portrait. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.28,0:03:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, my mom is 22 years old\Nhere, and she looks beautiful, Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.81,0:04:00.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm this\Nangry little four year old. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.71,0:04:01.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Laughs] Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.62,0:04:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [singing "El Breve Espacio\NEn Que No Estás"] Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.16,0:04:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The title of my next exhibition is\Ncalled "Citizens" Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.68,0:04:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think there's always been embedded\Npolitics in my work, Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.61,0:04:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether it's issues of colonialism or capitalism Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.98,0:04:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but given recent politics I've been Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.74,0:04:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really trying to figure out how to\Nactually put it more at the forefront. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.79,0:04:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Ready to fight? Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.86,0:04:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Crowd: Damn Right! Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.83,0:04:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Are you ready to fight? Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.68,0:04:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Crowd: Damn Right! Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.90,0:04:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Bay Area has been a real flash point\Nfor a lot of recent protests and so I Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.13,0:04:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I feel like I've been\Nin the middle of it. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.51,0:04:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you watch the news,\Nyou watch images flashing by, Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.11,0:04:53.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're kind of trying\Nto process it all. Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.83,0:04:57.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We need to figure out how wide\Nthe actual banner is. Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.63,0:05:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was noticing that this\None particular banner kept popping up. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.94,0:05:03.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And depending\Non how it was held up, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.86,0:05:08.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or how it was being displayed you could or\Nin some cases could not read the text Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.13,0:05:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Cool.\N- All right. Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.32,0:05:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so\NI downloaded those images, Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.08,0:05:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then, you know,\Ntraced it on the computer, Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.10,0:05:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projected it onto a larger piece of fabric, Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.71,0:05:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then hand sewed it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.80,0:05:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It says "Become Ungovernable,"\Nand it's kind of, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.53,0:05:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like the banner itself\Nis becoming ungovernable. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.54,0:05:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, it's got loose ends,\Nit's got, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.21,0:05:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the text itself is kind of, like, falling off the page,\Num so it's trying to kind of embody that Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.35,0:05:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um, so it's kitrying\Nto kind of embody that, Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.95,0:05:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that inability to be controlled. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.98,0:05:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the problems,\NI think, with slogans Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.80,0:05:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that people think they already know what the slogan means, Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.93,0:05:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so you can either shut off to it, Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.12,0:05:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you can, you know, nod your head in agreement. Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.49,0:06:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I was using\Nthese images of protests, Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.12,0:06:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was more interested in\Nactually how they're filtered Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:06:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through media channels. Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.10,0:06:11.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Sewing machine whirring] Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.08,0:06:18.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a lot of my projects,\NI'm really interested in this connection between Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.96,0:06:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the analog and the digital Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.04,0:06:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I decided to create this huge hand sewn quilted checkerboard background Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.08,0:06:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[mouse clicks] Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.21,0:06:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it resembles a Photoshop transparency background Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.02,0:06:39.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you cut out an image in Photoshop, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.63,0:06:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Photoshop will put in this like really weird you know, checkerboard pattern. Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.00,0:06:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's actually to point out this idea that, Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.52,0:06:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, digital culture is not neutral Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.34,0:06:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that simply because there's a computer Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.60,0:06:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,involved doesn't mean that there isn't\Nhuman labor Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.66,0:06:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.51,0:07:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um, hmm. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.13,0:07:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, let me\Ngo hand that to you. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.11,0:07:12.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I think we could\Ntry something like this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.63,0:07:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like I'm constantly\Nmaking things. Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.86,0:07:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I do feel like I have this\Nratio that I've worked out Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.58,0:07:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I call it\Nthe sort of 80/20 ratio, Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.36,0:07:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where 80% of what I make\Nis kind of crap, Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.97,0:07:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but somehow I have to produce\Nit to get to the 20%, Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.69,0:07:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is successful. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.98,0:07:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughs]\NIt's kind of like rubble, Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.52,0:07:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not really.\N[chuckles] Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.72,0:07:38.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Did you all buy\Nthe fabric this color? Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.14,0:07:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, so this is, um, chroma\Nkey fabric, the green screen. Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.24,0:07:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been gravitating to\Nworking with chroma key Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.68,0:07:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is this awful, acid color. Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.06,0:07:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm standing in front of a green chroma\Nkey screen. Anything that you photograph Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.18,0:08:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or shoot in front of this screen, you can\Nput in any type of backdrop, Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.42,0:08:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can create a fantasy scene. Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.00,0:08:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.63,0:08:14.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[camera shutter snaps] Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.80,0:08:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, thinking about both\Npolitics and social strife Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.58,0:08:25.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything that's kind of permeated \Nand saturated everything, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.70,0:08:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, now it's just this kind of Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.43,0:08:29.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constant in our backgrounds. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.87,0:08:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, what does that mean\Nto then use chroma key as the literal subject Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.92,0:08:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of ignoring it? Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.22,0:08:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ ♪ Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.69,0:08:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- All right.\NWanna grab that one, Durham? Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.98,0:09:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I became a U.S. citizen when I was 26 years old. Despite having lived here Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.25,0:09:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since I was three , I had to kind of make\Nthat decision, Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.72,0:09:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then go through the process of the citizenship test. Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.30,0:09:10.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- All right, I am an.. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.76,0:09:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was thinking a lot about a 1942\Nphotograph taken by Dorothea Lange. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.24,0:09:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she had taken a photograph of an\NOakland store front Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.88,0:09:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where a Japanese American had a business there, Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.00,0:09:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and upon\Nthe notification for Japanese internment Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.41,0:09:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had put up a sign in the window that just proclaimed "I am an American." Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.79,0:09:36.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Um, let's do the scrunching. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.30,0:09:39.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea that citizenship can\Nbe given and also taken away Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.77,0:09:41.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was something\Nthat really interested me. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.74,0:09:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I do feel like there's been a\Nlot of Reckoning with people having to Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.03,0:09:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,struggle with what it means to be an\NAmerican today. Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.60,0:09:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, what do we stand for? Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.50,0:09:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What can we become? Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.22,0:09:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[cell phone snaps] Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.94,0:10:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My current studio is located in a really industrial part of the Bay Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.21,0:10:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It overlooks San Francisco, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.56,0:10:14.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, just looking out over the water, you can see it at a distance. Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.36,0:10:18.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I grew up in that city, Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.62,0:10:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I relocated to Oakland four years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.56,0:10:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I couldn't afford to stay in San Francisco anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.30,0:10:33.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, the Bay area\Ncan be a really wonderful kind of fermenting space for Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.67,0:10:35.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for artists. Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.78,0:10:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not because it's easy to live here, Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.73,0:10:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause it's not easy to live here, Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.94,0:10:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there are ways that\Nartists can create community Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.14,0:10:47.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and spaces for themselves here. Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.20,0:10:56.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we're to look at the complexity of our contemporary culture, Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.82,0:10:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our political moment, Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.82,0:11:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, our lived realities, Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.41,0:11:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want my work to be as Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.14,0:11:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complicated as well. Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.46,0:11:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That there isn't just one way to look at it, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.10,0:11:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that depending on your perspective you'll see\Nit a different way Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.10,0:11:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I also want it to inhabit\Ncontradictions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.86,0:11:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- All right. Fierce Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.60,0:11:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, you know,\Nlooking at images of protests, Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.78,0:11:25.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we created\Nthese composite characters. Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.46,0:11:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so they're fictions. Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.54,0:11:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Black-clad individuals\Nare usually associated with, Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.86,0:11:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know,\Na kind of very direct action. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.39,0:11:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it a character\Nthat one finds problematic, Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.32,0:11:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or is it something that\Nmight elicit even you know, some empathy? Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.85,0:11:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a portrait of someone covered in a very sheer gray-and-white\Ncheckerboard pattern. Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.16,0:11:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The portrait is of\Na person who is undocumented. Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.26,0:12:00.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a difficult thing for me\Nto talk about, actually, Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.45,0:12:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because given the state of our contemporary political situation, Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.46,0:12:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, that person\Ncould be taken at any minute. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.02,0:12:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Depending on how you read that image\Nit's about either the removal Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.15,0:12:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or about their protection. Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.00,0:12:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One really important\Npossibility for art Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.71,0:12:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it is\Na recording device, you know. Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.08,0:12:48.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it's a subjective one, Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.70,0:12:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's a device, that, somehow through an individual or a \Ngroup of individuals Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.77,0:12:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,processes a situation\Nin the world, Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.63,0:13:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then creates a\Nsubjective viewpoint of that. Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.30,0:13:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As evidence. Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.78,0:13:14.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do not think at all that my work, in\Nand of itself, Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.38,0:13:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually going to change the system Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.66,0:13:23.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm interested in though, is somehow reflecting a possibility. Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.75,0:13:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm doing is kind of like\Nabsorbing and processing\Nthe world around me, Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.12,0:13:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's becoming political. Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.49,0:13:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think I have a choice anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.33,0:13:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just my reality. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.92,0:14:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To learn more about Art21 and our Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.90,0:14:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,educational resources please visit us\Nonline at pbs.org/art21 Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.84,0:14:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Art in the Twenty-First Century Season 9 is available on DVD Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.01,0:14:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To order, visit shop.pbs.org or call 1-800 play PBS Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.67,0:14:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This program is also available for download on iTunes.