Hi everyone, my name is Brad Zaknich from GESB, and I'd like to thank you very much for logging onto today's recorded webinar, so it's not a live one today, it's recorded and it's about investing in super 101. So we're gonna go through the ideas of investing through superannuation compared to investing in other formats. So, for those who haven't used webinars before, very simple technology, sit back and relax. Some of the normal interactive opportunities we have with webinars has been turned off for today's session, obviously things like typing in questions and clicking send, you can't do that today because there's no-one to reply to them. So what we'll do is get through some of the housekeeping. What we're showing you here is what you already would have received, well, in fact what you're going to be receiving, is a webinar survey follow-up email, we do still love to get feedback, even with recorded webinars, so if you wouldn't mind setting a few moments it takes to complete that, that'd be greatly appreciated. The webinar, like I said, is being recorded, and you'll be able to sit back, watch it at your own leisure. You can move forward, you can go back in the slides, and you can watch it as many times as you like, and from my understanding, this webinar will be staying live on the GESB website, so probably around the end of the financial year, at which point we'll most likely get a new presentation up. Now, I'd first love to show my respect and acknowledge the traditional custodians of this land, of Elders past, present and emerging, on which this event takes place. And then you've got the all-important disclaimer. When talking about superannuation, investing, money, finance, it's important that you understand that we're not giving you personalised financial advice today. My job today is to provide you with information, explain things, explain how things work. It's not to get you to make a decision based on what I'm saying. So if you do need personalised financial advice, you'll need to go elsewhere to get that, as GESB only provides you general advice. Now in today's session there is a lot to get through, some of which might be concepts that you're familiar with, and some maybe not. So in this session we're gonna talk about the basics of investing, and we're gonna talk about things like income tax, and how that impacts investing, budgeting, where to use your money, borrowing, and debt. Also going to talk about with investment concepts, the idea of compounding interest, the value of superannuation, understanding the different asset classes that exist within super, and what investment options are available. Now hopefully you all know who GESB is, I work for GESB, GESB is a state government department, and it just stands for Government Employee Superannuation Board. Now we've been around for over 85 years, we've grown over $42 billion in funds under management as of 31st December 2024, and GESB, being a government department, we're a not-for-profit organisation. So the only fees we collect from you, through your super, through your insurances are to run the fund, we are not-for-profit. And our returns are competitive and long-term. In regards to GESB's product structure, people often get a little confused, but it's quite simple. GESB at the top of the tree there stands for Government Employee Superannuation Board. Below that are the different schemes that we administer. Now we're got some old legacy schemes like the Pension scheme and the Gold State Super scheme, we're not going to be talking about those at all today, okay, they don't sit within the bounds of today's presentation. We're predominantly going to be talking about superannuation, that are in the accumulation phase, and are accumulation accounts, so West State Super, GESB Super, and some of the other invest, general super funds that work in a similar fashion. When we speak about stuff that is general, superannuation, I'll make that very well-known. When we're talking about anything that might be GESB specific, I'll also make that well-known. What we're not going to talk about in great detail today, or if at all, are the allocated pensions. They are the retired products that most people use to draw down their retirement savings. Well let's quickly talk about West State and GESB Super because there are some differences between the two of them, and you need to be aware. So, West State Super was the default super fund for WA State Public Servants who commenced working for the government prior to 15 April 2007. The reason that is important is that after April 2007, new employees to the public sector might have had a GESB Super account open, or perhaps some other super fund, Hesta, Australian Super, Hostplus, something like that. The reason it's important to know, is that most Australian funds like GESB Super, and most other funds, are considered to be taxed super schemes. Why is this important? The government allows super contributions to be contributed at a lower rate of tax than your normal pay. We need to remember that super comes under the tax regime, and GESB super, like most Australian funds is a tax scheme and that simply means when your employer puts money into your super fund, through your employers' 11.5% super guarantee, or you put extra money in through your payroll process called salary sacrifice. Those contributions are only taxed at 15%, compared to your normal tax rates through your income. But it happens on the way into your account, and while your money's still invested. If however you've got a West State Super account, your money's are not taxed on the way in, because it's called an 'untaxed super scheme'. So the money's from your employers' contributions and any salary sacrifice are not taxed on the way into your account so the full contribution hits your account. Any investment earnings or growth in your fund would normally be taxed at 15% in a regular fund, they are not taxed in West State Super whilst the money remains in West State Super, but what happens however is when you take your money out of the West State scheme, that is when the 15% tax gets applied. So it's important that you understand the difference, and there are some other differences to talk about in a little while as well. Now, when we talk about tax, you need to remember as well that the way the Australian tax system works is relative to your income, is the more income that you earn, the more tax you generally pay. So up to the first $18,200 you earn in earnings through your salary, through your income, there is no tax applicable to that income for most Australians. But once your salary gets above $18,201, up to $45,000, I shouldn't say salary, I should say income, in that bracket your income is taxed at 16%, okay, for every dollar over $18,201, up to $45,000. Then, if you're earning over $45,001 per year, the earnings between $45,001 and $135,00, that portion alone is taxed at 30%. So people often think 'well I'm earning over $45 grand a year, I must be paying 30% tax.' Yes, but only on the money you're earning, above $45,000. And as your salary goes into the new higher brackets, you pay more tax on the extra earnings. Now, as I said earlier, money's going into superannuation from your employer's contributions, and through the process called salary sacrifice. They are not taxed at your marginal, personal tax rate. They are instead taxed at 15%. So when you talk about that, you can see that money's being earned over 45 grand are normally taxed at 30%, money going into your super are only going to be taxed at 15% maximum. That is the benefit of superannuation, so let's go through this. Let's start talking about investing money, finances, all those sort of things, and first thing when I talk about this is the basics of investing and knowing where your money comes from. So knowing where your money goes is extremely important, being able to track your spending is an extremely important part of looking after your money. Planning your goals, whether they be short-term, medium-term, or long-term, basics of knowing where your money comes from, and what you're gonna spend it on. But also being a smart borrower. There's nothing wrong with borrowing money, but some would argue, borrowing money to purchase something that is declining in value may not be a smart borrow, but that's up to the individual to decide how they want to do that. Also understanding compounding interest. Interest earnt, people understand that maybe I'm making, for example, a 7% return on my money, but when you understand that compounding interest is interest on top of interest on top of interest, that's extremely powerful. Albert Einstein once said 'compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world, he who understands it, earns it. He who doesn't, pays it.' Something to think about there. Well let's firstly talk about budgeting. So there is a concept called the 'bucketing approach', cause when we talk about budgeting, people get quite concerned and they think very heavily about every cent that this, and every individual item, and that is fair enough. But if you simplify things in budgeting into a simpler approach, it might be as simple as dividing your income into three buckets, or three aspects of your income. And you might allocate, for example, 50% of your income to your needs, so for example your home loan, your rent, groceries, utilities and your insurances. So 50% is just a concept, you might have more than that, you might have less, but when you identify an amount of money, that is used for your needs, set that money aside and you know that your needs are covered. And then you might have your wants, and you might decide to allocate maybe 30% of your income to your wants. And they can be things like your, upgrading needs, money's for evenings out, hobbies, sporting events, holidays, but upgrading needs we might talk about maintenance on your home, new cars, things like that. And then you might decide to allocate 20% of your income towards savings. And that might be an emergency fund for when things go wrong, or maybe long-term savings for things off in the future, that might include other investments like superannuation, shares, property, but it also might include the overpayment of your debt, so paying extra money to pay off loans might be considered to be savings. And when you break it down into 50%, 30% and 20%, it's a very reasonable starting point, you might decide to put more money into savings, less into wants, but by having a structure, makes it easier to stick to that structure, and identify what you're going to be putting your money into. Let's now talk about being a smart borrower. Borrowing money is for most people, a necessity in life, for certain things, but not all debt is equal, it will depend on the purpose of the loan, it will depend on the interest rates you're paying, how often and how much your payments are going to be, and it should be consolidating different debts, or different loans, into one. So for example, when they say 'not all debt is equal', if you're borrowing money from a bank or institution, as an example, and maybe you're borrowing it and you're having to pay, 5% interest or 6% interest to borrow that money, but maybe you're borrowing that money to purchase something that's going to increase in value by 7, 8, 9 or 10% per year, that might be said as being 'good debt'. Whereas 'bad debt' might be be something as simple as paying for a holiday where you don't have much to show for it at the end and you're paying extra when you get back by way of interest. So understand, borrowing money is not necessarily a bad thing, but understanding when you should, shouldn't borrow to purchase things is something that you have to decide. Now lets now talk about compounding interest, I'm gonna go through the example we quite often use. Compounding interest is basically earning interest on top of previously earned interest. So let's look at a case study of Jenny, who invests $10,000 over a five year period. Now she's gonna, let's say in her example, she receives 5% per annum compounded interest, compounded on a monthly basis. Now, and the end of five years, her investments actually gonna grow to $12,834. She's not just earning 5% on $10,000, so let's see how this works. If she invests $10,000 at the start of year 1, by compounding interest at 5% per annum monthly, she's doesn't end up with $500, which would be if she compounded once, she ends up with $512, it's actually more than 5% over the 12 months because it's been compounded monthly. So at the beginning of the next year she's got $512, which she earns 5% interest compounded monthly, for the next 12 months, she accumulates $538. Ends up with $11,049, and you can see over five years, the interests that's been compounded grows, 512, 538, 565, 594, 625. So compounding interest, when you leave investments alone, and they compound on top of each other. It's investments' interest on top of the last lot of interest returns. That's where leaving things long term can generate greater levels of interest, because it's not simple interest, it's compound interest. And that's where these slides come in, excuse me, time is money. People often talk about 'timing the market', it's often more important to spend time in the market. What do we mean by that? Well let's say for example, you've got a 20-year-old, a 30-year-old, a 40 and a 50-year-old, who all of a-side, with a starting balance of nothing, they want to put an extra $50 a fortnight perhaps even less, in superannuation. So let's just assume this is extra money you're putting into your super, above and beyond what you might already be getting. What difference will it make by putting $50 a fortnight, now let's assume an annual earning rate of roughly 7.8%, so you're probably in the growth plan. Now if you start when you're 20, an extra $50 a fortnight, taken out of the conversation inflation and things like that, when you get to 60, so after 40 years, you'll have $345,758 extra sitting in your account. By only putting in $50 a fortnight. Now if you don't start until you're 30, now I've got $154,000, you don't start until you're 40, about $64,000, you don't start until you're 50, it's $21,000. Now you can see, even though they're only 10-year periods separating each starting point, the amounts of difference are massive. Because the person starting making contributions earlier, is getting compounding interest every month on top of the contributions that have already grown. And that's why the balance can be quite large, by putting in significantly small amounts of money, if you start really early. Well let's now focus on that $345,000 because we know that starting at 20, over 40 years, should generate a figure that's similar to that. But what if, you need that amount of money, but you don't start when you're 20. Well if you don't start 'til you're 30, to meet the same objective, you'll need to put in $112 a fortnight, significantly more. If you don't start 'til you're 40, now you've gotta do $270 a fortnight, for a much shorter period of time. And if you don't start 'til you're 50, now it's $807 per fortnight. So this is where compounding interest can work against you, the longer you wait to start making investments. And because superannuation can't be accessed, generally until the age of 60 anyway, for a lot of people making extra contributions in super, the benefits of compounding interest come along anyway, because you can't get access to it. But what it does say, is if you want to start growing your super, the earlier you start, generally speaking, the less amount you've gotta make as a contribution a fortnight. And what is the value of superannuation to you? Well the value of super is this; It's a very tax-advantaged saving scheme for retirement, often more, better tax advantages than you're gonna get through your income tax rates. Why is superannuation compulsory, and it's been compulsory since 1992, it's so that you have an alternative to, or a supplement for, the age pension. The age pension, is not going to disappear anytime soon, but it is still seen as being only a safety net for retirement. Because we've been getting compulsory super now since 1992. And the value of super for you might be to give you the options in retirement that you might not otherwise have, by just relying on the age pension, or even just compulsory super, maybe making extra contributions, will meet your objectives, as to what your lifestyle might look like in retirement. Now there are different ways of getting money into super, and the main way is your employers' contributions. Now down on the left-hand side you can see, you can put money in super through your employers' contributions, through salary sacrifice through your payroll, voluntary after-tax contributions, through cheque or B-pay or even through your payroll. There are also personal deductible contributions which we're not going to go into great detail about today, and there's also spouse contributions. But across the top, there are two main forms of contributions. One is called concessional contributions, one is called non-concessional. What is the difference? The difference comes down to the name. Concessional contributions are moneys' that go into your super before you pay your income tax. So when I showed you before that for most Australians earning over $30,000 a year, most of us are paying 30% tax on a fair chunk of our income. So for when you have a non-concessional contribution, that means you've earned your money, you've generally paid your tax on your income, which could be 30%. So if you earn $1000, you might lose 30% being 300, you can get $700 into your super, that would be a non-concessional contribution. But when putting money into your super as a concessional contribution, the money comes out of your income, before it gets taxed at your regular tax rate and instead goes into your super and will only be taxed at 15%. So you earn $1000, only to lose 15%, you're left with $850. So superannuation concessional contributions is like earning $1000 and being able to invest $850, whereas non-concessional contributions, which you can invest in anywhere, might otherwise be earning $1000 and only getting $700 invested. That's the benefit of superannuation. And what this slide here is showing, excuse me, is normally you earn your salary, your salary gets taxed at your marginal tax rate, think 30-odd percent or possibly more, at the top end, and money goes into your bank account. Money that you can buy and invest elsewhere, the interest or earnings are also taxed at your marginal tax rate. But when you put money into superannuation through your salary, through salary sacrifice, it'll only be taxed at 15%, either on the way into your account with most super funds like GESB, Australian Super and Hesta, or the money on the way out, with West State Super, still 15%. And not just that, not only do you pay only 15% tax on the contributions, you only pay 15% tax on the investment earnings, as opposed to your marginal tax rate. Now because superannuation is considered to be a tax-effective savings strategy for your retirement, that's why the government's put in place, they also understand, that by saving for your retirement, the government is going to receive less tax now, than if you hadn't put it through your pay. That's why they limit the amount you're allowed to put into your superannuation through what are called concessional contributions. Now for most Australian funds, being taxed funds, GESB, Hesta, Australian Super, that sort of fund, the limitation per year is $30,000 per year. And that includes your employers super contributions, so you could already be getting 11 and a half percent in super, you're allowed to go above and beyond that up to $30,000, per year to grow your superannuation savings. If you go above that, you're not penalised as such, but the excess contributions will be taxed at your marginal tax rate. Now, for those of you who might have a West State Super, or indeed a Gold State Super Account those concessional contributions of an annual $30,000 limit, do not apply to you. Instead, you've got what's called an untaxed plan cap, and as that currently stands, that is $1.78 million in your lifetime. And that gets indexed every year. So that means, if you've got West Side Super for example, irrespective of what your employer's putting into your employers' contributions, you can salary sacrifice above and beyond that, past the $30,000 per year, up to $1.78 million over your lifetime. So that's an important consideration of West State that provides benefits that may not be applicable in other super funds. However, there is one thing you need to consider. Whilst West State Super does not have an annual limitation, like every other super fund, there is a correlation between West State, and other super funds. So what this example here is showing is this, let's say I've got a West State Super account, but maybe I've got another tax super fund, like Hesta, or Australian Super, or maybe a self-managed super fund. What this slide here is showing is, if I'm putting in $20,000 per year, of concessional contributions into West State, that's okay, I can still put $10,000 of concessional contributions into another fund, without breaching the $30,000 cap. Now, in example two, if I put in $30,000 a year into West State, that is also okay, even though the $30,000 limit does not apply to West State, by putting $30,000 into West State, all of a sudden, whatever I'm putting into West State counts against whatever I'm putting into any other Australian super fund, tax super fund. So if I'm putting $30,000 into West State through salary sacrifice, and employer contributions, at that point, if any extra moneys' are going into a tax super fund, as a concessional contribution, that amount is now in breach of the concessional contributions cap. And as per example slide three, if I'm putting $50,000 into West State, that's not a problem, but it means anything going into any other fund as a concessional contribution is in breach of the concessional cap. So please be mindful of that if you've got multiple super funds. Now, irrespective of which super fund you've got, the non-concessional contribution cap is, for example, money I might have in the bank, money I might have already saved, money I might be getting from an inheritance. Moneys' that I either don't need to pay tax on, or I've already paid tax on. I could put that into my West State account, or GESB account or any other super fund. And the amount that you're limited to is $120,000 per year, up to the age of 75. If I happen to go over $120,000 per year, it's not a major problem, provided I don't put in more than $360,000 over a three-year period. So what that's saying here is, if I put $120,000 in this year, 120 the following year, 120 the following year, no problem. But let's say, for example, I accidentally put in $150,000 this year, I don't have a problem, but what happens is for this year and the next two years, the government says the most you can put in is $360,000. Now, you do not want to breach that cap because if you do, your excess gets taxed at 47%. Now, there is something else to take into account. Whilst there is an annual limits, at a three year limit to what you can put into your super through non-concessional contributions, you can only make these contributions if your balance in super is less than $1.9 million at the end of the financial year. So what I would say is this, if you're planning on making non-concessional contributions to your super, and you've got less than $1.9 million, and you're under 75, you can still make these contributions. But as you get closer to 75 years of age, please be aware, you need to contact your super fund, 'cos once you're within three years of getting to 75, the amount you can put in, you just need to be a little careful, when using the bring forward rule because you might exceed that cap. So please contact your super fund to understand how that works. Now, let's start talk about the investment side of things. Investment terms and concepts, so we're going to talk about unit prices, share prices, dividends, and liquidity, we're gonna talk about asset classes, we're gonna talk about risk profile and time horizon. So what are unit prices, well unit prices are very similar to shares, so in your super, when money goes into your superannuation fund, what happens is you don't get a set level of return. What actually happens is, we purchase investments at a certain price. So if a unit is worth $1, and you put in $100 into your super, we buy 100 investments at a dollar per investment. As the unit price goes up in value, the investments you've already got go up in value, your balance goes up. But it also means that extra money going into your super, buys less and less for your dollar 'cos the new investments you're buying are getting more expensive. Subsequently though, if unit prices drop, and you're putting money into your super, you buy more for your dollar. So understanding how unit prices work is extremely important with super, because even when markets go down, even though your balance might fall, you actually get to buy more investments for your dollar because you're getting more purchasing value, so please understand that. Also, unit pricing provides liquidity because it means that when you resign or retire and you want to access your super, you don't have to sell all your superannuation investments to take some money out. Unit pricing provides liquidity, you might decide to sell off $10,000 worth of investments to get the money out. Now we're going to talk about asset classes shortly, we're also going to talk about risk profile, and time horizon, in fact, I'll talk about time horizon now. Time horizon is, how soon until I need my actual money. Why is that important? If I need my money tomorrow, from my retirement savings, you may not want to have your money invested in high growth or risky investments, because if the balance you need is about what you've got now, then all of a sudden the market falls for the next 12 months, if you're invested in a more volatile investment type, and the market will drop, you might lose some of the value of that investment at a time when you don't have time to recover the investment losses because you're drawing down soon. However, on the flipside, if you don't need your superannuation for 20 or 30 years, your time horizon is quite far off, you might decide 'well my risk profile might be a little bit greater, which means I can afford to take on more risk, maybe I can afford to take on more volatility,' because the more volatile your investments are, the most risk they take on, the more likely it is to go up, but the more likely it is to experience downturns. As we all know, over the long term, more volatile investments do go up, yes they go down, but they likely recover the losses in the medium-to long-term. And that's why we talk about risk in super, super is not without risk. There's legislative risk, the risk that the government may change the rules. It has happened in the past, will likely happen in the future. But the extent to which those risks come about with legislation, often or at the top end, to reduce the amount of tax effectiveness that people can get, the rules don't change that much or that often. Then we've got investment risk, the risk that your investment may not achieve your investment outcomes, that you're looking for. So understand that even though markets go up and down, okay, that is the investment risk. But avoiding risk might result in you not getting the return that you actually want, it may not give you enough return. Increasing investment risk may increase volatility, how much it goes up and down, but hopefully should increase what you return in the end. And restricted access is also a risk. Only put money into superannuation you can afford to be without generally until the age of 60, because that's when you get access to your super. So managing your investment risk through the GESB website, we have an investment tool in the GESB calculators area, there's one that allows you, called the Investment Tool, to choose what investment profile you might want to take on. Because in your super your money gets invested in Australian shares, international shares, private equity, and other investment options. Some are less, or more defensive, less aggressive, some are more growth-orientated providing greater levels of return over the long-term. Now, GESB takes what's called a multi-manager approach, by doing this it means we spread your money far and wide, so whether you're in GESB Super, West State or one of our retirement income pension options, you can choose to be invested in cash, conservative, balanced, sustainable balanced, growth and a range of other options. But even below that, when you look at the actual investment managers we use, within the Australian share portfolio, we use about seven different fund managers, within the property portfolio we use in excess of 10, we do this to spread the risk far and wide, which mitigates the chances of the managers making mistakes and impacting you. Because as you can see, different investments perform differently, so what we like to do is take the risk away, so you don't have to choose one investment or the other, and by taking the balanced approached for a lot of people, whether it be in the growth plan, sustainable or my West State plan, what this graph is showing is how the West State Super plan has performed since 2001. Now even though a lot of you aren't in West State, maybe you're in GESB Super, the reason we show West State first is because it goes back the furthest, which allows you to see the impact of volatility growth has had on the investment markets. And you can see, even though growth and the West State plan are the most important aggressive of the plans, that also returned the greatest investment growth. Whereas the cash plan, nice, slow and steady, doesn't perform overly well, but it also doesn't achieve negatives. Now you'll see over the last couple of years, or year or so, there's some orange line, the sustainable balanced plan, it only shows a short-term because we've only had it available for about 12 months. Now in West State Super there are five ready made plans to choose from, and you get to choose from cash, conservative, the default plan if you've not made an option, which used to be called the balanced plan, there's also the sustainable balanced plan as well as growth. The growth plan is the most aggressive, the cash plan is the least aggressive. But you can also take the option to do a mix your plan. This is where you can choose the exact allocation of investment types, from the five asset classes that exist, you can change it as often as you want. Now, the GESB Super. GESB Super only goes back to 2007 and as you can see when it first started, that's when the global financial crisis hit. But it still shows, that even though cash has been very steady along the middle, the other investment plans have been more volatile, but have provided greater levels of return. And you can actually plot these graphs on the GESB website through the investment centre, and you can plot the cash, conservative, balanced, the default plan, sustainable and the growth. And as I said before, you can change your investment options as often as you want. The benefit of investing through super is that firstly, it's a long-term investment for most people. It means you pick and choose, you pick a fund or a plan that suits your personality trait, you make those contributions, you can make extra contributions, and because you can't access the money generally until you're 60, you get the benefit of compounding interest, without disturbing those investments. So the next steps for you. Try out investment planning tool to help determine what investment vehicle you should be in. You might be a conservative person, that might just mean simply, you need to take a less aggressive option with your investment. However, if you understand that over the long-term, and you understand that the ups and downs with investments might provide you with greater outcomes, you might decide to go with more growth orientated options. You can change as your personality changes, as your timeframes change for retirement. You can review your investment choice through the member online facility, go to the GESB website, top right-hand corner you can log-on to member online, you can do it as often as you want. Also read the quarterly investment updates on our website, so that you get a better understanding of how investments actually work, rather than just listening to the news, rather than your sister-in-law, or indeed your friends because without any disrespect intended, most of us aren't investment gurus, we hear things through the news, we hear things through friends. Get it from the horse's mouth, read the updates, we want you to be as informed as you can and you make those key decisions. You can also try our contributions calculator, so on the GESB website, right-hand side roughly half-way down, there's a section called 'calculators', within that there is the investments tool, but there are also tools about showing you how much your contributions could be into your super, there are also calculators about the time and planning. How much difference will contributions make into your super over the long-term. Have a look at them, they're very worthwhile. What should you be being next? Well maybe contact at GESB if you need to. Now this is a recorded session so I won't be taking any questions, but please feel free to contact at GESB on working days Monday to Friday between 7:30am and 5:30pm by calling 13 43 72, which just happens to be 13 GESB. So 13 43 72. You can also use the live chat on the GESB website between the hours of 7:30am and 5:15pm, or you can contact us through the website. If you found this somewhat useful, you can go back and watch this webinar at your leisure, it is being recorded, and if you've got any questions, contact GESB directly. We'll be updating this webinar probably at the beginning of the next financial year, and there are many other webinars available on the GESB website. In the meantime, my name is Brad Zaknich, thank you very much for logging in, we hope you enjoyed this recorded webinar.