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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.13,0:00:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.13,0:00:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think folks are going to like this follow\Nup on the Gavin McInnes situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.29,0:00:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Gavin McInnes is
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.96,0:00:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,formerly one of the are, he is one of the\Nfounders of vice.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.20,0:00:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He hasn't been involved with vice for a very\Nlong time.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.95,0:00:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was one of the cofounders of the proud\Nboys, although I am told he has since distanced
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.40,0:00:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,himself from that extremist group.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.56,0:00:23.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, in any case, the newest thing he's doing\Nis he has a new show and I was invited onto
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.91,0:00:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that program.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.91,0:00:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I told you last week how, uh, I was offered,\Num, a whole bunch of money to be on that program.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.14,0:00:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Others have reported, uh, including Sam Cedar\Nbeing offered $5,000 to appear on Gavin McInnes
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.77,0:00:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,program, which is a pay walled program, meaning\Nyou only can see the content if you become
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.65,0:00:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a paid subscriber.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.75,0:00:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, my manager actually did some negotiation\Nwith the Gavin McInnes team, which may have
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.37,0:00:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been actually just Gavin McInnes communicating\Nwith my manager under a different name and
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.50,0:00:57.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was able to actually negotiate, um, uh, a\Npretty substantial rate.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.21,0:01:02.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the midst of this negotiation that\Nwas going on, I received a phone call from
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.17,0:01:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a guy named Jim telling me that I should appear\Non Gavin McInnes his show who we later determined
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.07,0:01:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with like 99.9% certainty was actually Gavin\NMcInnes himself.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.06,0:01:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here's a reminder about that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.65,0:01:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay, let's go next to our caller from the\Ntwo five, three area code.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.22,0:01:22.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who's calling today from two five three.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.35,0:01:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hey David, it's a gym and I just wanted to\Nsay a longtime listener.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.17,0:01:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First time caller.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.42,0:01:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Love Ya.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.42,0:01:36.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just wanted to talk about the green\Nnew deal and just see what ideas you had about
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.40,0:01:39.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe getting that pushed through.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.17,0:01:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also I'm a guy I despise up on my youtube\Nthe other day on a commercial Gavin McInnes
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.08,0:01:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this new show free speech.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.74,0:01:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was trying to click out of it right\Naway and then all of a sudden I saw Dr Cornell
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.40,0:01:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,West and Marc Lamont Hill on the show.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.83,0:01:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.83,0:02:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I actually checked it out and um, it's\Na cool show in regards to just liberals, uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.58,0:02:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nailing, uh, Gavin.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.83,0:02:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was so awesome to watch, especially\NMarc Lamont Hill.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.68,0:02:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I canceled my subscription because I saw all\Nthe shows, but I just thought it'd be awesome
Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.94,0:02:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you could get on his show and destroy him.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.45,0:02:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So hold on.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.45,0:02:17.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said you canceled your subscription to\Nwhat?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.73,0:02:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, I signed up just to wash the doctor Lamont\NHill.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.04,0:02:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, I see.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.14,0:02:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.14,0:02:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cornell slash
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.14,0:02:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the speech.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.57,0:02:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then Sam Cedar from the majority report\Nlater did a segment explaining that he also
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.46,0:02:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had been invited to appear on Gavin McInnes\Nhis program.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.20,0:02:40.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He also talked about this call I received\Nfrom quote Jim, who appears to really have
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.87,0:02:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been Gavin himself.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.14,0:02:46.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, Anna Casp, Berrien from the young Turks\Nwas also invited.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.20,0:02:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She did a segment about it in the last day\Nor two and uh, covered that as well as a salmon.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.54,0:02:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I being invited onto the program to appear\Nwith Gavin McInnes and now hilariously, Gavin
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.93,0:03:05.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,himself has done an entire episode attacking\Nus because despite the offer of money, we
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.99,0:03:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have at least so far refused to appear on\Nhis program, which is hilarious because if
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.41,0:03:17.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will only, so if we get invited with no\Nwith no money being on the table and we refuse
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.50,0:03:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to appear, we are not willing to engage with\Nthe other side or whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.94,0:03:29.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we are offered money and appear, then it's,\Nwell, we're only appearing because we were
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.18,0:03:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given money, not because we actually want\Nto engage with the other side.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.10,0:03:38.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we turn down the appearance despite the\Noffer of thousands and thousands of dollars
Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.50,0:03:44.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to appear, uh, then all of a sudden the problem\Nis that we are just not willing to engage
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.29,0:03:45.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the other side.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.29,0:03:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though you would think that it would\Nbe a sign of a sort of, uh, the, the, uh,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.74,0:03:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the, the fact that we are not going to be\Ntainted or influenced by the money alone.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.89,0:03:59.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are going to actually make decisions about\Nwhat appearances do and don't make sense.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.57,0:04:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So check this out.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.99,0:04:08.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a tweeted screenshot promoting this\Nevent where Gavin says, this episode, this
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.23,0:04:14.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entire episode is dedicated to Anna Cas, Berrien,\NSam Cedar, and David Pacman who appeared to
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.74,0:04:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be outraged that Gavin offered the money to\Ndebate a conservative.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.20,0:04:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it so hard to get liberal guests?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.03,0:04:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do they consistently refuse to compete\Nin the marketplace of ideas?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.70,0:04:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people actually wrote to me and they said,\NDavid, you really should address this.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.23,0:04:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like why not just appear and compete in the\Nmarketplace of ideas with Gavin?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.53,0:04:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's important for you to understand is\Nthat the pitch was not debate Gavin McInnes
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.41,0:04:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about this topic or that topic or the corrosive\Nnature of his influence on the political discourse.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.54,0:04:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The invitation was show up and have Gavin\NMcInnes play talk show host and moderate a
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.23,0:05:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,discussion between David Pakman in some conservative\NSam Cedar in some conservative and a cast
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.38,0:05:03.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Berrien and some conservative.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.90,0:05:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the, the problem I have with this, and\NI've talked to Sam about this as well, is
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.74,0:05:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I feel as though I'm contributing to\Nthe whitewashing of Gavin McInnes in a way
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.79,0:05:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was not immediately comfortable with.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.90,0:05:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to be clear, I have not actually turned\Nthis down.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.35,0:05:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is I can't go to New York City\Nand do this until the fall anyway.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.52,0:05:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm traveling every single week between now\Nand Labor Day and we have the David Pakman
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.16,0:05:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show, summer vacation coming up for which\NI'll be out of the country.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.02,0:05:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we basically just tabled it.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.13,0:05:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He, I guess, interpreted it as I'm turning\Ndown the appearance.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.68,0:05:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm open in principle to appearing on Gavin\NMcInnes his program.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.47,0:05:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what I feel is the real problem here is\Nthat number one, again, by allowing him to
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.91,0:05:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,play talk, show host and moderate a discussion\Nbetween another conservative and me.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.58,0:05:57.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, I'm sort of whitewash ng mcinnis and again\Nthese are videos that would be paywalls just
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.35,0:05:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for his paid audience.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.65,0:06:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last thing I want to do is give this guy\Npaid subscribers by allowing him to promote
Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.58,0:06:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an appearance that I did with someone else\Nthat contributes to the white washing of Gavin
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.75,0:06:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,McInnes and may actually get people to sign\Nup and pay for his program.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.45,0:06:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I'm curious.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.97,0:06:21.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I haven't, again, because the show is paywalls,\NI have no idea what was actually said during
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.88,0:06:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this episode.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.07,0:06:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm curious whether he addresses the fact\Nthat he called into my show pretending to
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.58,0:06:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be a guy named Jim, suggesting that I should\Nreally as a leftist go and appear on Gavin
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.97,0:06:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,McInnes his program.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.97,0:06:39.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if somebody has a subscription\Nto his program.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.25,0:06:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe they can tell me if that comes up.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.56,0:00:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My guess is it does not come up.