WEBVTT 00:00:41.483 --> 00:00:44.720 -[Anicka VO] Humans have a fear of impermanence. 00:00:45.101 --> 00:00:50.150 We go against nature to try to preserve and stabilize and 00:00:50.150 --> 00:00:54.470 control something that resists all of that. 00:00:55.591 --> 00:01:02.746 In around 2010, I started deep-frying flowers and plants. 00:01:05.661 --> 00:01:08.890 This very clunky batter 00:01:08.890 --> 00:01:13.150 is almost masking and destroying the flower itself, 00:01:13.150 --> 00:01:18.235 and then you subject them to 300-degree hot oil. 00:01:18.235 --> 00:01:21.999 ♪♪♪ 00:01:21.999 --> 00:01:24.920 The visual aspects of it was definitely something that I was 00:01:24.920 --> 00:01:28.761 aiming for, but the odor of, like, french fries [laughs] 00:01:28.761 --> 00:01:33.430 of an artwork or something, that was very much compelling me to, 00:01:33.430 --> 00:01:36.359 you know, fry up a batch of these. 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:43.979 ♪pensive synth music♪ 00:01:43.979 --> 00:01:47.579 There's always been an incredible vulnerable aspect to 00:01:47.579 --> 00:01:48.899 my work. 00:01:50.501 --> 00:01:55.149 Many of my works use this element of deterioration and 00:01:55.149 --> 00:01:56.847 perishable materials. 00:01:56.847 --> 00:02:02.153 ♪♪♪ 00:02:02.153 --> 00:02:05.219 I'm interested in the kind of mutations that can take place in 00:02:05.219 --> 00:02:07.450 these changes. 00:02:08.952 --> 00:02:11.590 I work with living creatures, 00:02:12.492 --> 00:02:14.170 ultrasound gel, 00:02:14.490 --> 00:02:15.770 bacteria, 00:02:17.442 --> 00:02:18.411 algae, 00:02:21.436 --> 00:02:22.136 kelp, 00:02:22.677 --> 00:02:24.124 and soap. 00:02:41.239 --> 00:02:42.566 -[Anicka] Looks so good. 00:02:42.566 --> 00:02:44.147 Oh my gosh, I forgot all about this. 00:02:44.147 --> 00:02:46.859 Wow, it's like seeing the piece for the first time again. 00:02:47.019 --> 00:02:48.697 It's really good. 00:02:49.399 --> 00:02:52.290 There is such a sensual quality to this soap. 00:02:52.290 --> 00:02:56.570 The thing that really keeps haunting me is this glowing, 00:02:56.570 --> 00:02:58.881 floating underwater kind of quality. 00:02:58.881 --> 00:03:00.640 And it's really hard to do, you know? 00:03:00.640 --> 00:03:02.292 -Because resin doesn't do it... 00:03:02.292 --> 00:03:03.040 -[Esther] Right. 00:03:03.040 --> 00:03:04.199 -[Anicka] Acrylic doesn't do it... 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:04.818 -[Esther] Right. 00:03:04.818 --> 00:03:07.980 -And as problematic and volatile as it is, 00:03:07.980 --> 00:03:12.949 I'm trying to retain and capture that quality. 00:03:15.613 --> 00:03:17.960 I can tell you what to anticipate is that, 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:22.640 because glycerin is a humectant, it will just over time slowly 00:03:22.640 --> 00:03:24.031 shrink a little. 00:03:24.031 --> 00:03:26.110 -[Esther] And so that's okay? 00:03:26.110 --> 00:03:29.220 -If you get dents and cuts and gashes, 00:03:29.220 --> 00:03:33.269 that's fine; it's not intended to be pristine and perfect. 00:03:33.269 --> 00:03:37.041 ♪ethereal oscillating synths♪ 00:03:37.041 --> 00:03:40.110 -[Anicka VO] I'm quite omnivorous in the areas and 00:03:40.110 --> 00:03:42.618 disciplines where I draw from. 00:03:43.860 --> 00:03:46.790 Before it's even a fully-fleshed idea, 00:03:46.790 --> 00:03:50.339 I start small trials in the studio, 00:03:50.339 --> 00:03:52.948 much like you would do in a laboratory. 00:03:54.210 --> 00:03:56.550 As the trials start to bear fruit, 00:03:56.550 --> 00:03:59.930 we bring in the experts to help us, 00:04:00.411 --> 00:04:05.650 whether it's a software engineer or a forensic chemist 00:04:06.031 --> 00:04:08.420 or a perfumer. 00:04:09.562 --> 00:04:15.000 I look to the natural sciences, synthetic sciences, 00:04:16.142 --> 00:04:18.949 artificial intelligence research. 00:04:20.551 --> 00:04:23.271 That seems like a very maximalist approach, 00:04:23.271 --> 00:04:27.729 but I think that we can't really discount how we are influenced 00:04:27.729 --> 00:04:31.267 by all of these different systems and ideas 00:04:31.267 --> 00:04:32.979 and information. 00:04:43.373 --> 00:04:45.380 -[Anicka] I just want to climb up on these hills... 00:04:45.380 --> 00:04:46.380 -[man] [chuckles] 00:04:46.380 --> 00:04:48.371 -[Anicka] And just enter into the screen, 00:04:48.371 --> 00:04:49.950 -and go into the drawing. 00:04:49.950 --> 00:04:50.870 -[man] Yeah. 00:04:50.870 --> 00:04:56.179 -How can I translate that then into the outer world -- 00:04:56.179 --> 00:04:58.960 that feeling of wanting to climb up these hills? 00:04:58.960 --> 00:05:01.119 'Cause that's what these anemone panels do for me. 00:05:01.119 --> 00:05:01.779 -Yeah. 00:05:01.779 --> 00:05:04.859 -You know, that rolling, undulating feeling. 00:05:04.859 --> 00:05:05.880 -Yeah. 00:05:07.402 --> 00:05:11.121 -But then, when we were talking about more of a kind of a... 00:05:11.121 --> 00:05:13.410 Maybe-- I don't know, maybe we need to think about something 00:05:13.410 --> 00:05:14.800 more immersive. 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:18.262 ♪upbeat bouncing synths♪ 00:05:18.262 --> 00:05:21.870 -[Anicka VO] We have a very limited imagination when it 00:05:21.870 --> 00:05:23.735 comes to machines. 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:31.790 We have a lot of anxiety that they will replace us. 00:05:32.931 --> 00:05:38.071 But what if we could relate to them in a more optimistic way? 00:05:38.071 --> 00:05:43.837 ♪♪♪ 00:05:43.837 --> 00:05:47.719 I really wanted to merge the biosphere 00:05:47.719 --> 00:05:50.009 with the technosphere. 00:05:50.790 --> 00:05:56.449 I consulted software engineers, molecular biologists 00:05:56.830 --> 00:06:00.109 to create what I called "aerobes." 00:06:01.090 --> 00:06:05.171 I was inspired by the comb jellyfish, 00:06:06.273 --> 00:06:08.687 the lion's mane mushroom... 00:06:10.349 --> 00:06:14.520 The machines respond and detect one another 00:06:14.520 --> 00:06:17.739 through high frequency radio waves. 00:06:19.622 --> 00:06:23.426 And they're able to detect heat signatures of visitors. 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.750 Some aerobes are curious about the visitors, 00:06:29.750 --> 00:06:32.099 while some are more shy. 00:06:34.622 --> 00:06:39.800 It was really important for me that they were unpredictable, 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:44.337 and that they had space and time for their own evolution. 00:06:47.584 --> 00:06:50.321 You know that they're mechanical, 00:06:50.321 --> 00:06:53.789 and yet they feel palpably alive. 00:06:53.789 --> 00:06:56.740 ♪uplifting ethereal music♪ 00:06:56.740 --> 00:07:01.129 It inspires a feeling of awe and calm, 00:07:01.129 --> 00:07:04.677 like you're swimming next to a humpback whale. 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:11.980 I'm always surprised how much power that they had 00:07:11.980 --> 00:07:15.498 to quell a lot of anxiety. 00:07:16.099 --> 00:07:19.629 With these aerobes, I, too, get to inhabit 00:07:19.629 --> 00:07:22.038 this space of wonder. 00:07:28.107 --> 00:07:31.009 -[woman VO] Another kind of trace is formidably encapsulated 00:07:31.009 --> 00:07:33.516 by the French word "sillage." 00:07:35.919 --> 00:07:39.440 It means "the degree to which a perfume's fragrance lingers in 00:07:39.440 --> 00:07:41.478 the air when worn." 00:07:42.660 --> 00:07:46.639 So in a way, an organism's sillage is a living presence 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.968 sensed even in the absence of a body or an author. 00:07:53.799 --> 00:07:54.299 -Oh, yeah. 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.659 This is the bullfrog. 00:07:56.659 --> 00:07:58.349 -[woman] [laughs] 00:08:00.132 --> 00:08:01.700 -That is very animal. 00:08:01.700 --> 00:08:05.000 -It's like boggy, frog... 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:05.500 -Mm-hm. 00:08:05.500 --> 00:08:06.530 -Swampy. 00:08:06.730 --> 00:08:08.240 -[woman] Very swampy. 00:08:10.864 --> 00:08:15.561 -One of the earliest forms of inquiries in my research 00:08:15.561 --> 00:08:19.930 is how we relate to smell, how it informs what I would call 00:08:19.930 --> 00:08:22.976 "the biopolitics of our senses." 00:08:26.020 --> 00:08:29.210 I grew up in a very pungent home, 00:08:29.210 --> 00:08:35.390 and was very keenly and acutely aware of how smell does start to 00:08:35.390 --> 00:08:38.594 create these forms of identity around these 00:08:38.594 --> 00:08:41.440 invisible scent molecules. 00:08:42.121 --> 00:08:45.529 ♪ethereal piano music♪ 00:08:45.529 --> 00:08:50.140 In the Western world, we really tend to reject very pungent 00:08:50.140 --> 00:08:54.160 odors as a sign of weakness, 00:08:54.160 --> 00:08:57.010 as a sign of being more animal. 00:08:58.772 --> 00:09:04.040 We have left those odors behind us to a perfectly-sanitized 00:09:04.040 --> 00:09:08.740 world where we control what we can smell and what we can't, 00:09:08.740 --> 00:09:13.571 and that is an impossible approach to existence. 00:09:16.415 --> 00:09:20.810 I had an exhibition in Milan, and I worked with a French 00:09:20.810 --> 00:09:24.460 artist and perfumer, Christophe Laudamiel. 00:09:25.481 --> 00:09:30.810 One of the central series are two dryer doors 00:09:30.810 --> 00:09:33.106 with two different scents. 00:09:35.890 --> 00:09:41.098 One dryer door had a bullfrog aroma. 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:46.480 The other contained this broomstick, 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:51.167 sort of cardboard sweeping-away aroma 00:09:51.190 --> 00:09:54.649 after everything has been packed up in your home, 00:09:54.649 --> 00:09:58.320 getting ready to evacuate a space that holds 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:00.191 a lot of memories 00:10:00.191 --> 00:10:04.570 of love and sadness and despair. 00:10:05.431 --> 00:10:11.369 It really is about memory, but also forgetting and letting go. 00:10:11.369 --> 00:10:17.770 ♪bittersweet string music♪ 00:10:17.770 --> 00:10:21.050 I always straddle this awkward line between 00:10:21.050 --> 00:10:24.457 perishability and non-perishability. 00:10:26.019 --> 00:10:31.180 We look to art as a form of preservation, 00:10:31.180 --> 00:10:33.779 as a statement on our civilization, 00:10:33.779 --> 00:10:35.870 on our species. 00:10:38.273 --> 00:10:42.410 And yet, you can't have monumentality without 00:10:42.410 --> 00:10:45.260 recognizing the embedded vulnerability around 00:10:45.260 --> 00:10:46.618 monumentality. 00:10:48.140 --> 00:10:51.019 My work deals a lot with what it means that things are 00:10:51.019 --> 00:10:55.228 perpetually blossoming and decaying. 00:10:56.610 --> 00:11:01.940 Change is the most constant form that we can acknowledge 00:11:01.940 --> 00:11:02.980 and embrace. 00:11:11.251 --> 00:11:18.718 ♪ ethereal ambient music ♪