[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello, and welcome to EduKatedSTEM. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am Kate, the founder of EduKatedSTEM, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and today we're going to be talking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about networking, So sometimes you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be qualified for the role. You might Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apply for the role, but you don't even Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get interviewed. And maybe if you had Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,utilized your network or had built a network, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would have a completely different Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outcome. So, this is one of the reasons Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why I'm going to encourage you to develop, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,build a network, and then nurture it so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when you are ready to move on, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can work with your network. Let Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them know that you are looking for Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another opportunity, And maybe you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can utilize them to get informational Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interviews or other things. But the first Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing is, you need to network. Now, when Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mentioned that word did a chill, go Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down your spine? I've had a lot of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conversations with individuals who Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think networking has kind of a horrible Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connotation. It's slimy. It is kind of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using people you know to get your Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own way or for your own benefit. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it goes both ways, right? So, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're in your network. You could Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potentially help them. They might Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be looking for that as well. And Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to be building a network Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of friends and colleagues. So, these Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are going to be people that you want Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be connected with. You're not Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be, hopefully meeting someone Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you don't want to be talking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to in the future, because that is going Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be uncomfortable for you. So, let's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about maybe networking at a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conference because, as a scientist, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is what you're going to be doing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hopefully you're going to go to a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conference you're going to listen Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to presentations. You're going to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,learn new information. You might Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,present a poster, you might present Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an oral presentation. And then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hopefully you're going to talk with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your peers, maybe meeting new Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people. Maybe figuring out who Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might want to be working for Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or with in the future. So, networking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't a bad thing, But I'm going to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encourage you to go in with plan. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've seen a number of networking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talks. At ABRCMS I saw a talk Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,specifically for networking for introverts, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was very, very good, but I Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought a lot of the information Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was also quite pertinent to people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who were not introverts. So I'm an Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introvert. I find the concept of going Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to conferences and going to networking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,events. It's challenging. It really is. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I force myself to do it because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the more you do it, the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,easier it becomes. And I take advice Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from my friend Mary Mitchell and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she always said, when you go, just Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a goal in mind. So, if your goal Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to meet a certain person, then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is what you try and do. If it's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to meet a certain number of people, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you know three to five individuals Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in and to have a good conversation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with them, then that is what you do. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once you have met your your goal, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your requirement, it's then up to you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you then choose to leave the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,networking event. But hopefully Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by that point, you will feel comfortable. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've made some friends. You Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might actually want to stay. When Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to a conference, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially nowadays, a lot of the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time you will get information on a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conference app. so ABRCMS Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definitely does that. The National Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Postdoc Association does that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they actually use the same app. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I might completely kill the pronunciation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whova, I'm not sure but it's a good Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little app. It has a list of all of the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attendees. It has the presentations, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they are, what the talks are. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can go on and you can highlight. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I want to go to these presentations, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you have an itinerary, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the app can say, you know, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've got to talk in 10 minutes in this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place, so it's very, very helpful. But Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can utilize the app to kind of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come up with a plan for what you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to do for networking. So, maybe Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is someone in your field that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are absolutely dying to meet. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are they on the list of attendees? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they are, are they speaking? If Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're speaking you absolutely Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know where they're going to be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at one point of time. So you could Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try and go and speak to them after Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have finished. Or maybe you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just know that they're going to be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there so, maybe you try and have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a conversation in a more relaxed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,setting. So, maybe over a coffee, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or you see them at a lunch table, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you ask if you can join them. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever it is, if there are certain Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people that you want to meet, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then let's try and make that happen. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do you want to meet them? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe you want to potentially work Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with them in the future. You just Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to have a chat about an Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experiment or a paper that they've done. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever it is. So let's focus on Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we want to get out of that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe there are other people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there who would be helpful, someone Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who works at an institution that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're interested in working at, but Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not necessarily that individual. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have a conversation with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them and find out is it a great place Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to work? Maybe you'll have a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chat to them and go. Oh, I don't Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to do that. I don't want to move Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on. So look at the conference Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attendees and see who you might Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be interested in working for or talking Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to. And the next thing is be prepared. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, as a graduate student, you might Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not have the opportunity to have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,graduate sorry, to have business cards. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But maybe your graduate school Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will purchase them for you. We used Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make them for our graduate students. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that was a possibility. If not Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vistaprint or something very similar, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will make you cards for actually quite Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cheap. So, I designed my business Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,card on Vistaprint. I think I got a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousand of them for $25 or Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something. It's really not that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,expensive, and you can, you know, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put your name, an email address, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't put my phone number Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I don't want people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phoning me at random times. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you've got a website, then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put that information on there. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could always, if you get a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously a smaller number of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them, you could say where you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,currently are, that you're a graduate Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,student or a postdoc, you can Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always personalize it even more Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say, you know, this is your field. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm looking for jobs or whatever it is. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can pop it in there. So even Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if your institution won't give you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a business card, then maybe you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can kind of get some made. You Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might want to take a few copies Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your CV or resume with you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know if you have a particular Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person that you want to meet Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you want to share your work Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with them, you could always print Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a copy of a paper or an abstract Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something and attempt to give Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it to them. I will say that people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have tried to give me CV's, resumes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,papers in the past, and I'm gonna Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be honest. You get home, and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't really do much with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them. Business cards, yes, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know, I have a big stack of them. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then it's really funny because Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody will email and be like, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kate I met you at this conference. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We spoke, and if I can't remember Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them, then I'll go through my Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stack of business cards. I'm like, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did I meet you? Because if I know Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I've met you, then you know Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my response is probably gonna Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be more helpful. Or like, if you see Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me speak and you say, Kate, I saw Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your seminar on this, rather than Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kate, I want this from you. Then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously, I'm going to be more Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,helpful to the person who you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know opens up with I saw you Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at this thing and I would like your Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advice. So I don't know about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,giving things other than a business Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,card. But you want their business card. If they can give you a business card that's really helpful, because then you can find them on LinkedIn. You can send them an email. And even if it's just you know it was wonderful to meet you at this meeting, I would love to stay in touch. Or if there's a question or something that you can kind of talk about following your conversation. Kind of move it on. And that's always really helpful to kind of get them into your network. Obviously, if they're at a conference and you email them that night or something, then it might take a few days for them to respond because they're really conference,