9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Hello, and welcome to EduKatedSTEM. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I am Kate, the founder of EduKatedSTEM, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and today we're going to be talking 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 about networking, So sometimes you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 might be qualified for the role. You might 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 apply for the role, but you don't even 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 get interviewed. And maybe if you had 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 utilized your network or had built a network, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you would have a completely different 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 outcome. So, this is one of the reasons 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 why I'm going to encourage you to develop, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 build a network, and then nurture it so 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that when you are ready to move on, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you can work with your network. Let 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them know that you are looking for 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 another opportunity, And maybe you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 can utilize them to get informational 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 interviews or other things. But the first 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thing is, you need to network. Now, when 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I mentioned that word did a chill, go 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 down your spine? I've had a lot of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 conversations with individuals who 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 think networking has kind of a horrible 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 connotation. It's slimy. It is kind of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 using people you know to get your 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 own way or for your own benefit. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But it goes both ways, right? So, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they're in your network. You could 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 potentially help them. They might 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be looking for that as well. And 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you're going to be building a network 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of friends and colleagues. So, these 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 are going to be people that you want 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to be connected with. You're not 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 going to be, hopefully meeting someone 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that you don't want to be talking 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to in the future, because that is going 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to be uncomfortable for you. So, let's 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 talk about maybe networking at a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 conference because, as a scientist, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 this is what you're going to be doing. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Hopefully you're going to go to a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 conference you're going to listen 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to presentations. You're going to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 learn new information. You might 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 present a poster, you might present 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 an oral presentation. And then 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 hopefully you're going to talk with 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 your peers, maybe meeting new 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 people. Maybe figuring out who 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you might want to be working for 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or with in the future. So, networking 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 isn't a bad thing, But I'm going to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 encourage you to go in with plan. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And I've seen a number of networking 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 talks. At ABRCMS I saw a talk 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 specifically for networking for introverts, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 which was very, very good, but I 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thought a lot of the information 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 was also quite pertinent to people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who were not introverts. So I'm an 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 introvert. I find the concept of going 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to conferences and going to networking 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 events. It's challenging. It really is. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But I force myself to do it because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you know, the more you do it, the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 easier it becomes. And I take advice 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 from my friend Mary Mitchell and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 she always said, when you go, just 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 have a goal in mind. So, if your goal 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 is to meet a certain person, then 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that is what you try and do. If it's 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to meet a certain number of people, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then you know three to five individuals 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in and to have a good conversation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with them, then that is what you do. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Once you have met your your goal, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 your requirement, it's then up to you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if you then choose to leave the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 networking event. But hopefully 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 by that point, you will feel comfortable. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You've made some friends. You 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 might actually want to stay. When 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you're going to a conference, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 especially nowadays, a lot of the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 time you will get information on a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 conference app. so ABRCMS 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 definitely does that. The National 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Postdoc Association does that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And they actually use the same app. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I might completely kill the pronunciation 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Whova, I'm not sure but it's a good 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 little app. It has a list of all of the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 attendees. It has the presentations, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 where they are, what the talks are. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You can go on and you can highlight. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Yes, I want to go to these presentations, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and then you have an itinerary, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and then the app can say, you know, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you've got to talk in 10 minutes in this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 place, so it's very, very helpful. But 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you can utilize the app to kind of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 come up with a plan for what you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 want to do for networking. So, maybe 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there is someone in your field that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you are absolutely dying to meet. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Are they on the list of attendees? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If they are, are they speaking? If 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they're speaking you absolutely 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 know where they're going to be 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 at one point of time. So you could 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 try and go and speak to them after 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they have finished. Or maybe you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 just know that they're going to be 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there so, maybe you try and have 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a conversation in a more relaxed 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 setting. So, maybe over a coffee, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or you see them at a lunch table, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you ask if you can join them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Whatever it is, if there are certain 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 people that you want to meet, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then let's try and make that happen. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Why do you want to meet them? 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Maybe you want to potentially work 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with them in the future. You just 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 want to have a chat about an 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 experiment or a paper that they've done. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Whatever it is. So let's focus on 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 what we want to get out of that. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And maybe there are other people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 there who would be helpful, someone 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who works at an institution that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you're interested in working at, but 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 not necessarily that individual. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You can have a conversation with 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them and find out is it a great place 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to work? Maybe you'll have a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 chat to them and go. Oh, I don't 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 want to do that. I don't want to move 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on. So look at the conference 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 attendees and see who you might 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be interested in working for or talking 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to. And the next thing is be prepared. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, as a graduate student, you might 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 not have the opportunity to have 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 graduate sorry, to have business cards. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But maybe your graduate school 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 will purchase them for you. We used 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to make them for our graduate students. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So that was a possibility. If not 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Vistaprint or something very similar, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 will make you cards for actually quite 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 cheap. So, I designed my business 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 card on Vistaprint. I think I got a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thousand of them for $25 or 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 something. It's really not that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 expensive, and you can, you know, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 put your name, an email address, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I don't put my phone number 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because I don't want people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 phoning me at random times. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And if you've got a website, then 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 put that information on there. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You could always, if you get a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 obviously a smaller number of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them, you could say where you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 currently are, that you're a graduate 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 student or a postdoc, you can 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 always personalize it even more 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and say, you know, this is your field. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm looking for jobs or whatever it is. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You can pop it in there. So even 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if your institution won't give you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a business card, then maybe you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 can kind of get some made. You 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 might want to take a few copies 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 of your CV or resume with you. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You know if you have a particular 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 person that you want to meet 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you want to share your work 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with them, you could always print 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a copy of a paper or an abstract 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 or something and attempt to give 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it to them. I will say that people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 have tried to give me CV's, resumes, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 papers in the past, and I'm gonna 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be honest. You get home, and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you don't really do much with 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them. Business cards, yes, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 know, I have a big stack of them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Then it's really funny because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 somebody will email and be like, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Kate I met you at this conference. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 We spoke, and if I can't remember 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them, then I'll go through my 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 stack of business cards. I'm like, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 did I meet you? Because if I know 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that I've met you, then you know 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 my response is probably gonna 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be more helpful. Or like, if you see 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 me speak and you say, Kate, I saw 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 your seminar on this, rather than 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Kate, I want this from you. Then 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 obviously, I'm going to be more 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 helpful to the person who you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 know opens up with I saw you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 at this thing and I would like your 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 advice. So I don't know about 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 giving things other than a business 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 card. But you want their business 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 card. If they can give you a business 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 card that's really helpful, because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then you can find them on LinkedIn. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You can send them an email. And 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 even if it's just you know it was 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 wonderful to meet you at this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 meeting, I would love to stay in 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 touch. Or if there's a question or 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 something that you can kind of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 talk about following your conversation. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Kind of move it along then that's 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 always really helpful to kind of get 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them into your network. Obviously, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if they're at a conference and you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 email them that night or something, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then it might take a few days for 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them to respond because they're 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 at a conference too. They might 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be socializing and hanging out. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Or you might want to wait until 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the conference has ended and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 then send them an email because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they'll have got home, and they 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 will have more of an ability to respond. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'm a huge fan of just randomly 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 talking to people around you. I've 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 met some really cool people whilst 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 waiting for tea, not coffee. Or in a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 line for lunch. You know, you just 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 randomly start talking to someone, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and you find out that they're a really 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 cool individual who does something. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And so just have an open mind, just 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 see where it goes. You might meet 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 someone who does something that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you've never considered, and you're, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 like, oh wow, that sounds really cool. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I might be very interested in that. So, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 be open to meeting new people. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Be open to new information. But 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 don't overstay your welcome. So, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 if someone's kind of shifting from 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 side to side, looking at their watch, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 checking their phone, trying to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 make eye contact with someone 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 who's walking past. They want to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 leave. They don't want to talk to 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you anymore. So, if someone is 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 making kind of the body language 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that they've had enough, let them go. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Don't hang on. You know that's 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when you say it was lovely to meet 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you. I would love to to stay in touch. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 If you haven't already exchanged 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 business cards that's, you know, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 can I have your business card and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I'll leave you to to it? I've got to get 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to my next session, or I'd like another 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 cup of tea, or whatever. Make your 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 exit graciously. But what you don't 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 want is for them to get irritated 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with you, because then they're not 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 going to want to help you or or stay 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 connected to you in the future. So, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 consider that. Then you follow-up. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, again, you're going to find them 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on LinkedIn, if they're on LinkedIn, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you're going to send them an email. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Maybe they've got a social media 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 profile? Whatever it is, you're going 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to connect, and try and connect 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 with them a few times, so you can't 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 just say, okay, you're now my connection 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 and in a year or two, I'm going to be 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 reaching out to you and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that you can help me find a job 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 because they're not going to remember 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you. They're not gonna necessarily 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 think yes, it was that person. I met 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them at this conference. They were Fab. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I absolutely want to assist them. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You need to make sure that they can 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 give you good advice for you because 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 they know you as an individual. If you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 are asking them to connect you with 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 someone for either an informational 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 interview, or because there is a job 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 available. They need to know that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you're good. They need to know that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 endorsing you isn't going to embarrass 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 them, so you need to know them 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 sufficiently so that they can do that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 for you. So, you need to continue 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 to network. So, even if it's, I saw this 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 paper in your research field and I 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 thought it was really cool. Or, I had 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 a question on it would you mind 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 taking a look? Or if you, you know 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 that they love a particular sports 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 team and their sports team wins 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you're, like, hey, just, saw that your 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 team won at the weekend, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Congratulations, I'm sure that you're 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 on cloud nine or something. Whatever 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 it is, you just need to kind of keep 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in touch with them every so often. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Obviously, it doesn't need to be 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 every day, every week, every month. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 But just occasionally, you just go. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Oh, remember me, I'm here. I'm 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in your network. And then hopefully 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 when it comes time to reaching 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 out to your network, they will be 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in a better position to help you. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 So, networking can be scary. I truly 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 appreciate that as an introvert, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 but it does get easier. So please 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 don't be put off. If you're saying, no, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I can't go out and do this take a 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 friend, take a friend with you. And, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you can kind of walk within groups 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 yourselves and talk. The only issue 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 I would have for that is if your friend 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 might be more of an extrovert than 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you, and you don't get to talk. They're 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 happily networking, but you're like 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the quiet little mouse in the corner. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 You do need to interact with people 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 in order to build your network, so 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 going with a friend is very helpful. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 It can definitely break the ice, but 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 your friend also needs to give you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 the opportunity to shine. Or you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 get to the meeting and you disappear, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you're in the same room, but you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 are networking at different times. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 And then you come back together, 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 so that makes sure that both of 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 you do do the work necessary in 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 order to network. Well, I hope that 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 helps. Good luck networking. If you 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 have advice for networking and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 connecting with people, I'd be 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 interested to know it. Pop it in the 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 comments below. Please like and 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 subscribe, and I'll see you next time. 9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000 Thank you, bye bye.