1 00:00:00,855 --> 00:00:02,860 Nina Dølvic Brochman: We grew up believing 2 00:00:02,860 --> 00:00:05,848 that the hymen is the proof of virginity. 3 00:00:07,348 --> 00:00:08,414 But it turns out, 4 00:00:08,414 --> 00:00:09,470 we were wrong. 5 00:00:10,139 --> 00:00:11,489 What we discovered 6 00:00:11,489 --> 00:00:16,335 is that the popular story we're told about female virginity 7 00:00:16,335 --> 00:00:19,664 is based on two anatomical myths. 8 00:00:21,438 --> 00:00:26,355 The truth has been known in medical communities for over 100 years, 9 00:00:26,355 --> 00:00:32,449 yet somehow these two myths continue to make life difficult 10 00:00:32,449 --> 00:00:34,516 for women around the world. 11 00:00:35,714 --> 00:00:38,890 Ellen Støkken Dahl: The first myth is about blood. 12 00:00:39,545 --> 00:00:42,062 It tells us that the hymen breaks 13 00:00:42,062 --> 00:00:46,204 and bleeds the first time a woman has vaginal sex. 14 00:00:47,052 --> 00:00:48,118 In other words, 15 00:00:48,118 --> 00:00:50,863 if there is no blood on the sheets afterwards, 16 00:00:50,863 --> 00:00:53,627 then the woman was simply not a virgin. 17 00:00:54,959 --> 00:00:59,021 The second myth is a logical consequence of the first. 18 00:00:59,996 --> 00:01:03,589 Since the hymen is thought to break and bleed, 19 00:01:03,589 --> 00:01:07,392 people also believe that it actually disappears, 20 00:01:07,392 --> 00:01:12,826 or is in some way radically altered during a woman's first intercourse. 21 00:01:14,181 --> 00:01:16,321 If that were true, 22 00:01:16,321 --> 00:01:22,096 one would easily be able to determine if a woman is a virgin or not 23 00:01:22,096 --> 00:01:24,278 by examining her genitals -- 24 00:01:24,278 --> 00:01:26,646 by doing a virginity check. 25 00:01:28,449 --> 00:01:30,276 NDB: So that's our two myths: 26 00:01:30,276 --> 00:01:31,861 virgins bleed, 27 00:01:31,861 --> 00:01:34,071 and hymens are lost forever. 28 00:01:35,351 --> 00:01:38,313 Now, this may sound like a minor issue to you. 29 00:01:38,484 --> 00:01:40,218 Why should you care 30 00:01:40,218 --> 00:01:44,761 about an obscure little skin fold on the female body? 31 00:01:45,911 --> 00:01:47,130 But the truth is, 32 00:01:47,130 --> 00:01:51,883 this is about so much more than an anatomical misunderstanding. 33 00:01:53,237 --> 00:01:57,368 The myths about the hymen have lived on for centuries 34 00:01:57,368 --> 00:01:59,756 because they have cultural significance. 35 00:02:00,482 --> 00:02:03,555 They have been used as a powerful tool 36 00:02:03,555 --> 00:02:06,856 in the effort to control women's sexuality 37 00:02:06,856 --> 00:02:11,399 in about every culture, religion and historical decade. 38 00:02:12,777 --> 00:02:16,152 Women are still mistrusted, 39 00:02:16,152 --> 00:02:17,433 shamed, 40 00:02:17,433 --> 00:02:18,664 harmed, 41 00:02:18,664 --> 00:02:20,239 and in the worst cases, 42 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:22,248 subjected to honor killings 43 00:02:22,248 --> 00:02:25,066 if they don't bleed on their wedding night. 44 00:02:26,515 --> 00:02:31,269 Other women are forced through degrading virginity checks 45 00:02:31,269 --> 00:02:34,704 simply to obtain a job, 46 00:02:34,704 --> 00:02:36,545 to save their reputation, 47 00:02:36,545 --> 00:02:38,185 or to get married. 48 00:02:39,367 --> 00:02:41,477 ESD: Like in Indonesia, 49 00:02:41,477 --> 00:02:46,203 where women are systematically examined to enter military service. 50 00:02:47,336 --> 00:02:51,003 After the Egyptian uprisings in 2011, 51 00:02:51,003 --> 00:02:56,399 a group of female protesters were forced to undergo virginity checks 52 00:02:56,399 --> 00:02:57,821 by their military. 53 00:02:59,024 --> 00:03:03,933 In Oslo, doctors are examining the hymens of young girls 54 00:03:03,933 --> 00:03:08,046 to reassure parents that their children are not ruined. 55 00:03:08,697 --> 00:03:11,192 And sadly, the list goes on. 56 00:03:12,533 --> 00:03:17,850 Women are so afraid not to live up to the myths about the hymen 57 00:03:17,850 --> 00:03:22,443 that they choose to use different virginity quick fixes 58 00:03:22,443 --> 00:03:23,943 to assure a bleeding. 59 00:03:25,048 --> 00:03:26,975 That could be plastic surgery, 60 00:03:26,975 --> 00:03:28,674 known as revirgination. 61 00:03:29,056 --> 00:03:32,999 It could be vials of blood poured on the sheets after sex, 62 00:03:32,999 --> 00:03:36,232 or fake hymens bought online, 63 00:03:36,232 --> 00:03:38,258 complete with theater blood 64 00:03:38,258 --> 00:03:42,631 and a promise to "kiss your deep, dark secret goodbye." 65 00:03:46,542 --> 00:03:51,682 NDB: By telling girls that no deed can be kept secret, 66 00:03:51,682 --> 00:03:56,112 that their bodies will reveal them no matter what, 67 00:03:56,112 --> 00:03:58,764 we have endowed them with fear. 68 00:04:00,070 --> 00:04:03,097 Girls are afraid of ruining themselves, 69 00:04:03,097 --> 00:04:04,831 either through sport, 70 00:04:04,831 --> 00:04:05,977 play, 71 00:04:05,977 --> 00:04:07,101 tampon use, 72 00:04:07,101 --> 00:04:08,589 or a sexual activity. 73 00:04:09,793 --> 00:04:13,159 We have curtailed their opportunities and their freedoms. 74 00:04:14,295 --> 00:04:17,698 It's time we put an end to the virginity fraud. 75 00:04:18,377 --> 00:04:21,425 It's time we break the myths about the hymen, 76 00:04:21,425 --> 00:04:23,224 once and for all. 77 00:04:24,267 --> 00:04:26,486 ESD: We are medical students, 78 00:04:26,486 --> 00:04:28,280 sexual health workers 79 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:31,943 and the authors of "The Wonder Down Under." 80 00:04:32,443 --> 00:04:33,733 (Laughter) 81 00:04:33,733 --> 00:04:37,141 That's a popular science book about the female genitals. 82 00:04:37,930 --> 00:04:39,498 And in our experience, 83 00:04:39,498 --> 00:04:40,959 people seem to believe 84 00:04:40,959 --> 00:04:45,329 that the hymen is some kind of a seal covering the vaginal opening. 85 00:04:46,251 --> 00:04:47,335 In Norwegian, 86 00:04:47,335 --> 00:04:50,074 it is even called, "the virgin membrane." 87 00:04:50,466 --> 00:04:51,550 And with this, 88 00:04:51,550 --> 00:04:53,635 we picture something fragile, 89 00:04:53,635 --> 00:04:56,264 something easily destructible, 90 00:04:56,264 --> 00:04:58,738 something you can rip through, 91 00:04:58,738 --> 00:05:01,974 perhaps like a sheet of plastic wrapping. 92 00:05:03,205 --> 00:05:06,761 You may have wondered why we brought a Hula Hoop onstage today. 93 00:05:07,918 --> 00:05:09,263 We'll show you. 94 00:05:11,466 --> 00:05:12,715 (Laughter) 95 00:05:13,382 --> 00:05:14,380 (Plastic rips) 96 00:05:15,152 --> 00:05:18,029 Now, it is very hard to hide 97 00:05:18,029 --> 00:05:20,576 that something has happened to this hoop, right? 98 00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:24,772 It is different before and after I punched it. 99 00:05:25,242 --> 00:05:27,658 The seal is broken, 100 00:05:27,658 --> 00:05:29,440 and unless we change the plastic, 101 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,560 it won't get back to its intact state. 102 00:05:32,813 --> 00:05:37,117 So if we wanted to do a virginity check on this hoop right here, 103 00:05:37,117 --> 00:05:38,400 right now, 104 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,094 that would be very easy. 105 00:05:40,938 --> 00:05:46,222 It's easy to say that this hoop is not a virgin anymore. 106 00:05:47,244 --> 00:05:48,520 (Laughter) 107 00:05:49,184 --> 00:05:52,759 NDB: But the hymen is nothing like a piece of plastic 108 00:05:52,759 --> 00:05:54,739 you can wrap around your food, 109 00:05:54,739 --> 00:05:55,848 or a seal. 110 00:05:56,528 --> 00:06:00,562 In fact ... 111 00:06:00,562 --> 00:06:02,212 it's more like this. 112 00:06:02,689 --> 00:06:04,944 A scrunchie, or a rubber band. 113 00:06:06,588 --> 00:06:11,381 The hymen is a rim of tissue at the outer opening of the vagina. 114 00:06:12,231 --> 00:06:16,557 And usually, it has a doughnut or a half-moon shape 115 00:06:16,557 --> 00:06:18,772 with a large, central hole. 116 00:06:19,943 --> 00:06:21,418 But this varies a lot, 117 00:06:21,418 --> 00:06:24,877 and sometimes hymens can have fringes, 118 00:06:24,877 --> 00:06:27,182 it can have several holes, 119 00:06:27,182 --> 00:06:29,805 or it can consist of lobes. 120 00:06:30,764 --> 00:06:31,824 In other words, 121 00:06:31,824 --> 00:06:35,599 hymens naturally vary a lot in looks, 122 00:06:35,599 --> 00:06:39,920 and that is what makes it so hard to do a virginity check. 123 00:06:41,693 --> 00:06:45,329 ESD: Now that we know a bit more about the hymen's anatomy, 124 00:06:45,329 --> 00:06:48,240 it's time to get back to our two myths: 125 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,910 virgins bleed, 126 00:06:49,910 --> 00:06:52,090 hymens are lost forever. 127 00:06:53,224 --> 00:06:57,015 But the hymen doesn't have to break at all. 128 00:06:57,685 --> 00:07:02,332 The hymen is like a scrunchie in function as well as in looks. 129 00:07:03,269 --> 00:07:05,771 And you can stretch a scrunchie, right? 130 00:07:07,624 --> 00:07:08,621 (Laughter) 131 00:07:08,621 --> 00:07:10,786 You can stretch a hymen, too. 132 00:07:11,737 --> 00:07:14,576 In fact, it's very elastic. 133 00:07:16,563 --> 00:07:18,073 And for a lot of women, 134 00:07:18,073 --> 00:07:22,617 the hymen will be elastic enough to handle a vaginal intercourse 135 00:07:22,617 --> 00:07:25,124 without sustaining any damage. 136 00:07:27,107 --> 00:07:28,448 For other women, 137 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:32,856 the hymen may tear a bit to make room for the penis, 138 00:07:32,856 --> 00:07:34,853 but that won't make it disappear. 139 00:07:35,389 --> 00:07:37,999 But it may look a bit different from before. 140 00:07:42,857 --> 00:07:45,377 NDB: So where does that leave us with our two myths? 141 00:07:46,169 --> 00:07:48,161 Well, first of all, 142 00:07:48,161 --> 00:07:51,446 if you have an elastic hymen, 143 00:07:51,446 --> 00:07:53,925 you will simply never bleed from sex. 144 00:07:55,027 --> 00:07:57,813 It doesn't matter if you're a virgin or not. 145 00:07:58,461 --> 00:08:01,752 It's an anatomical impossibility. 146 00:08:02,272 --> 00:08:06,329 And that is the case for half of you -- 147 00:08:06,329 --> 00:08:08,808 except for the men amongst you, of course. 148 00:08:08,808 --> 00:08:09,990 (Laughter) 149 00:08:11,314 --> 00:08:13,251 So in other words, 150 00:08:13,251 --> 00:08:15,689 some virgins bleed, 151 00:08:15,689 --> 00:08:17,785 but some simply don't. 152 00:08:18,305 --> 00:08:21,089 And that's our first myth shattered. 153 00:08:22,312 --> 00:08:25,870 It naturally follows that you can't examine the hymens 154 00:08:25,870 --> 00:08:27,622 to check for a virginity status. 155 00:08:28,505 --> 00:08:32,502 This was noted over 100 years ago in 1906 156 00:08:32,502 --> 00:08:34,087 by the Norwegian doctor, 157 00:08:34,087 --> 00:08:35,384 Marie Jeancet. 158 00:08:36,414 --> 00:08:40,986 She examined a middle-aged sex worker, 159 00:08:40,986 --> 00:08:46,162 and concluded that her genitalia were reminiscent of a teenage virgin. 160 00:08:47,587 --> 00:08:49,529 But that makes sense, right? 161 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:53,692 Because if her hymen was never damaged during sex, 162 00:08:53,692 --> 00:08:56,397 then what were we expecting to see? 163 00:08:57,957 --> 00:09:01,974 ESD: Since hymens come in every shape and form, 164 00:09:01,974 --> 00:09:03,466 it difficult to know 165 00:09:03,466 --> 00:09:08,581 if a dent or a fold in it is there because of previous damage, 166 00:09:08,581 --> 00:09:11,764 or if it's just a normal anatomical variant. 167 00:09:13,310 --> 00:09:16,490 The absurdity of virgin testing 168 00:09:16,490 --> 00:09:22,456 is illustrated in a study done on 36 pregnant teenagers. 169 00:09:23,689 --> 00:09:26,212 When doctors examined their hymens, 170 00:09:26,212 --> 00:09:29,573 they could only find clear signs of penetration 171 00:09:29,573 --> 00:09:33,073 in two out of the 36 girls. 172 00:09:35,623 --> 00:09:40,488 So unless you believe in 34 cases of virgin births -- 173 00:09:40,488 --> 00:09:42,228 (Laughter) 174 00:09:42,228 --> 00:09:43,813 we must all agree 175 00:09:43,813 --> 00:09:48,032 that also our second myth has taken a vital blow. 176 00:09:49,206 --> 00:09:52,619 You simply cannot look a woman between her legs 177 00:09:52,619 --> 00:09:54,766 and read her sexual story. 178 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,559 NDB: Like most myths, 179 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,181 the myths about the hymen are untrue. 180 00:10:05,227 --> 00:10:07,692 There is no virgin seal 181 00:10:07,692 --> 00:10:10,842 that magically disappears after sex, 182 00:10:10,842 --> 00:10:15,889 and half of virgins can easily have sex without bleeding. 183 00:10:17,504 --> 00:10:20,919 We wish we could say that by removing these myths, 184 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:23,222 everything would be OK -- 185 00:10:23,222 --> 00:10:29,582 that shame, harm and honor killings would all just disappear, 186 00:10:29,582 --> 00:10:31,829 but of course it's not that simple. 187 00:10:32,606 --> 00:10:36,139 Sexual oppression of women comes from something much deeper 188 00:10:36,139 --> 00:10:40,119 than a simple, anatomical misunderstanding 189 00:10:40,119 --> 00:10:42,105 about the properties of the hymen. 190 00:10:43,242 --> 00:10:48,981 It's a question of cultural and religious control of women's sexuality, 191 00:10:48,981 --> 00:10:51,265 and that is much harder to change. 192 00:10:52,087 --> 00:10:53,711 But we must try. 193 00:10:55,633 --> 00:10:57,610 ESD: As medical professionals, 194 00:10:57,610 --> 00:10:59,870 this is our contribution. 195 00:11:00,851 --> 00:11:04,607 We want every girl, parent and [incoming] husband 196 00:11:04,607 --> 00:11:07,489 to know what the hymen is 197 00:11:07,489 --> 00:11:09,099 and how it works. 198 00:11:09,939 --> 00:11:11,471 We want them to know 199 00:11:11,471 --> 00:11:15,231 that the hymen can't be used as proof of virginity. 200 00:11:16,131 --> 00:11:17,261 And that way, 201 00:11:17,261 --> 00:11:20,925 we can remove one of the most powerful tools 202 00:11:20,925 --> 00:11:23,392 used to control young women today. 203 00:11:25,684 --> 00:11:28,398 After telling you this, 204 00:11:28,398 --> 00:11:32,634 you may wonder what the alternative is, 205 00:11:32,634 --> 00:11:37,489 for if we cannot use the hymen as a proof of virginity for women, 206 00:11:37,489 --> 00:11:39,119 then what should we use? 207 00:11:41,658 --> 00:11:44,263 We opt for using nothing. 208 00:11:44,957 --> 00:11:46,875 (Cheering) 209 00:11:46,875 --> 00:11:47,879 If you -- 210 00:11:47,879 --> 00:11:51,903 (Applause) 211 00:11:54,274 --> 00:11:58,693 If you really want to know if a woman is a virgin or not, 212 00:11:58,693 --> 00:11:59,693 ask her. 213 00:11:59,693 --> 00:12:00,691 (Laughter) 214 00:12:01,341 --> 00:12:05,938 But how she answers that question is her choice. 215 00:12:07,620 --> 00:12:08,654 Thank you. 216 00:12:08,654 --> 00:12:10,221 (Applause)