WEBVTT 00:00:00.855 --> 00:00:02.860 Nina Dølvic Brochman: We grew up believing 00:00:02.860 --> 00:00:05.848 that the hymen is the proof of virginity. 00:00:07.348 --> 00:00:08.414 But it turns out, 00:00:08.414 --> 00:00:09.470 we were wrong. 00:00:10.139 --> 00:00:11.489 What we discovered 00:00:11.489 --> 00:00:16.335 is that the popular story we're told about female virginity 00:00:16.335 --> 00:00:19.664 is based on two anatomical myths. 00:00:21.438 --> 00:00:26.355 The truth has been known in medical communities for over 100 years, 00:00:26.355 --> 00:00:32.449 yet somehow these two myths continue to make life difficult 00:00:32.449 --> 00:00:34.516 for women around the world. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:35.714 --> 00:00:38.890 Ellen Støkken Dahl: The first myth is about blood. 00:00:39.545 --> 00:00:42.062 It tells us that the hymen breaks 00:00:42.062 --> 00:00:46.204 and bleeds the first time a woman has vaginal sex. 00:00:47.052 --> 00:00:48.118 In other words, 00:00:48.118 --> 00:00:50.863 if there is no blood on the sheets afterwards, 00:00:50.863 --> 00:00:53.627 then the woman was simply not a virgin. 00:00:54.959 --> 00:00:59.021 The second myth is a logical consequence of the first. 00:00:59.996 --> 00:01:03.589 Since the hymen is thought to break and bleed, 00:01:03.589 --> 00:01:07.392 people also believe that it actually disappears, 00:01:07.392 --> 00:01:12.826 or is in some way radically altered during a woman's first intercourse. 00:01:14.181 --> 00:01:16.321 If that were true, 00:01:16.321 --> 00:01:22.096 one would easily be able to determine if a woman is a virgin or not 00:01:22.096 --> 00:01:24.278 by examining her genitals -- 00:01:24.278 --> 00:01:26.646 by doing a virginity check. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:28.449 --> 00:01:30.276 NDB: So that's our two myths: 00:01:30.276 --> 00:01:31.861 virgins bleed, 00:01:31.861 --> 00:01:34.071 and hymens are lost forever. 00:01:35.351 --> 00:01:38.313 Now, this may sound like a minor issue to you. 00:01:38.484 --> 00:01:40.218 Why should you care 00:01:40.218 --> 00:01:44.761 about an obscure little skin fold on the female body? 00:01:45.911 --> 00:01:47.130 But the truth is, 00:01:47.130 --> 00:01:51.883 this is about so much more than an anatomical misunderstanding. 00:01:53.237 --> 00:01:57.368 The myths about the hymen have lived on for centuries 00:01:57.368 --> 00:01:59.756 because they have cultural significance. 00:02:00.482 --> 00:02:03.555 They have been used as a powerful tool 00:02:03.555 --> 00:02:06.856 in the effort to control women's sexuality 00:02:06.856 --> 00:02:11.399 in about every culture, religion and historical decade. 00:02:12.777 --> 00:02:16.152 Women are still mistrusted, 00:02:16.152 --> 00:02:17.433 shamed, 00:02:17.433 --> 00:02:18.664 harmed, 00:02:18.664 --> 00:02:20.239 and in the worst cases, 00:02:20.239 --> 00:02:22.248 subjected to honor killings 00:02:22.248 --> 00:02:25.066 if they don't bleed on their wedding night. 00:02:26.515 --> 00:02:31.269 Other women are forced through degrading virginity checks 00:02:31.269 --> 00:02:34.704 simply to obtain a job, 00:02:34.704 --> 00:02:36.545 to save their reputation, 00:02:36.545 --> 00:02:38.185 or to get married. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:39.367 --> 00:02:41.477 ESD: Like in Indonesia, 00:02:41.477 --> 00:02:46.203 where women are systematically examined to enter military service. 00:02:47.336 --> 00:02:51.003 After the Egyptian uprisings in 2011, 00:02:51.003 --> 00:02:56.399 a group of female protesters were forced to undergo virginity checks 00:02:56.399 --> 00:02:57.821 by their military. 00:02:59.024 --> 00:03:03.933 In Oslo, doctors are examining the hymens of young girls 00:03:03.933 --> 00:03:08.046 to reassure parents that their children are not ruined. 00:03:08.697 --> 00:03:11.192 And sadly, the list goes on. 00:03:12.533 --> 00:03:17.850 Women are so afraid not to live up to the myths about the hymen 00:03:17.850 --> 00:03:22.443 that they choose to use different virginity quick fixes 00:03:22.443 --> 00:03:23.943 to assure a bleeding. 00:03:25.048 --> 00:03:26.975 That could be plastic surgery, 00:03:26.975 --> 00:03:28.674 known as revirgination. 00:03:29.056 --> 00:03:32.999 It could be vials of blood poured on the sheets after sex, 00:03:32.999 --> 00:03:36.232 or fake hymens bought online, 00:03:36.232 --> 00:03:38.258 complete with theater blood 00:03:38.258 --> 00:03:42.631 and a promise to "kiss your deep, dark secret goodbye." NOTE Paragraph 00:03:46.542 --> 00:03:51.682 NDB: By telling girls that no deed can be kept secret, 00:03:51.682 --> 00:03:56.112 that their bodies will reveal them no matter what, 00:03:56.112 --> 00:03:58.764 we have endowed them with fear. 00:04:00.070 --> 00:04:03.097 Girls are afraid of ruining themselves, 00:04:03.097 --> 00:04:04.831 either through sport, 00:04:04.831 --> 00:04:05.977 play, 00:04:05.977 --> 00:04:07.101 tampon use, 00:04:07.101 --> 00:04:08.589 or a sexual activity. 00:04:09.793 --> 00:04:13.159 We have curtailed their opportunities and their freedoms. 00:04:14.295 --> 00:04:17.698 It's time we put an end to the virginity fraud. 00:04:18.377 --> 00:04:21.425 It's time we break the myths about the hymen, 00:04:21.425 --> 00:04:23.224 once and for all. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:24.267 --> 00:04:26.486 ESD: We are medical students, 00:04:26.486 --> 00:04:28.280 sexual health workers 00:04:28.280 --> 00:04:31.943 and the authors of "The Wonder Down Under." NOTE Paragraph 00:04:32.443 --> 00:04:33.733 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:04:33.733 --> 00:04:37.141 That's a popular science book about the female genitals. 00:04:37.930 --> 00:04:39.498 And in our experience, 00:04:39.498 --> 00:04:40.959 people seem to believe 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:45.329 that the hymen is some kind of a seal covering the vaginal opening. 00:04:46.251 --> 00:04:47.335 In Norwegian, 00:04:47.335 --> 00:04:50.074 it is even called, "the virgin membrane." 00:04:50.466 --> 00:04:51.550 And with this, 00:04:51.550 --> 00:04:53.635 we picture something fragile, 00:04:53.635 --> 00:04:56.264 something easily destructible, 00:04:56.264 --> 00:04:58.738 something you can rip through, 00:04:58.738 --> 00:05:01.974 perhaps like a sheet of plastic wrapping. 00:05:03.205 --> 00:05:06.761 You may have wondered why we brought a Hula Hoop onstage today. 00:05:07.918 --> 00:05:09.263 We'll show you. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:11.466 --> 00:05:12.715 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:13.382 --> 00:05:14.380 (Plastic rips) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:15.152 --> 00:05:18.029 Now, it is very hard to hide 00:05:18.029 --> 00:05:20.576 that something has happened to this hoop, right? 00:05:21.570 --> 00:05:24.772 It is different before and after I punched it. 00:05:25.242 --> 00:05:27.658 The seal is broken, 00:05:27.658 --> 00:05:29.440 and unless we change the plastic, 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:31.560 it won't get back to its intact state. 00:05:32.813 --> 00:05:37.117 So if we wanted to do a virginity check on this hoop right here, 00:05:37.117 --> 00:05:38.400 right now, 00:05:38.400 --> 00:05:40.094 that would be very easy. 00:05:40.938 --> 00:05:46.222 It's easy to say that this hoop is not a virgin anymore. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:47.244 --> 00:05:48.520 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:05:49.184 --> 00:05:52.759 NDB: But the hymen is nothing like a piece of plastic 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:54.739 you can wrap around your food, 00:05:54.739 --> 00:05:55.848 or a seal. 00:05:56.528 --> 00:06:00.562 In fact ... 00:06:00.562 --> 00:06:02.212 it's more like this. 00:06:02.689 --> 00:06:04.944 A scrunchie, or a rubber band. 00:06:06.588 --> 00:06:11.381 The hymen is a rim of tissue at the outer opening of the vagina. 00:06:12.231 --> 00:06:16.557 And usually, it has a doughnut or a half-moon shape 00:06:16.557 --> 00:06:18.772 with a large, central hole. 00:06:19.943 --> 00:06:21.418 But this varies a lot, 00:06:21.418 --> 00:06:24.877 and sometimes hymens can have fringes, 00:06:24.877 --> 00:06:27.182 it can have several holes, 00:06:27.182 --> 00:06:29.805 or it can consist of lobes. 00:06:30.764 --> 00:06:31.824 In other words, 00:06:31.824 --> 00:06:35.599 hymens naturally vary a lot in looks, 00:06:35.599 --> 00:06:39.920 and that is what makes it so hard to do a virginity check. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:41.693 --> 00:06:45.329 ESD: Now that we know a bit more about the hymen's anatomy, 00:06:45.329 --> 00:06:48.240 it's time to get back to our two myths: 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:49.910 virgins bleed, 00:06:49.910 --> 00:06:52.090 hymens are lost forever. 00:06:53.224 --> 00:06:57.015 But the hymen doesn't have to break at all. 00:06:57.685 --> 00:07:02.332 The hymen is like a scrunchie in function as well as in looks. 00:07:03.269 --> 00:07:05.771 And you can stretch a scrunchie, right? NOTE Paragraph 00:07:07.624 --> 00:07:08.621 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:07:08.621 --> 00:07:10.786 You can stretch a hymen, too. 00:07:11.737 --> 00:07:14.576 In fact, it's very elastic. 00:07:16.563 --> 00:07:18.073 And for a lot of women, 00:07:18.073 --> 00:07:22.617 the hymen will be elastic enough to handle a vaginal intercourse 00:07:22.617 --> 00:07:25.124 without sustaining any damage. 00:07:27.107 --> 00:07:28.448 For other women, 00:07:28.448 --> 00:07:32.856 the hymen may tear a bit to make room for the penis, 00:07:32.856 --> 00:07:34.853 but that won't make it disappear. 00:07:35.389 --> 00:07:37.999 But it may look a bit different from before. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:42.857 --> 00:07:45.377 NDB: So where does that leave us with our two myths? 00:07:46.169 --> 00:07:48.161 Well, first of all, 00:07:48.161 --> 00:07:51.446 if you have an elastic hymen, 00:07:51.446 --> 00:07:53.925 you will simply never bleed from sex. 00:07:55.027 --> 00:07:57.813 It doesn't matter if you're a virgin or not. 00:07:58.461 --> 00:08:01.752 It's an anatomical impossibility. 00:08:02.272 --> 00:08:06.329 And that is the case for half of you -- 00:08:06.329 --> 00:08:08.808 except for the men amongst you, of course. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:08.808 --> 00:08:09.990 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:08:11.314 --> 00:08:13.251 So in other words, 00:08:13.251 --> 00:08:15.689 some virgins bleed, 00:08:15.689 --> 00:08:17.785 but some simply don't. 00:08:18.305 --> 00:08:21.089 And that's our first myth shattered. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:22.312 --> 00:08:25.870 It naturally follows that you can't examine the hymens 00:08:25.870 --> 00:08:27.622 to check for a virginity status. 00:08:28.505 --> 00:08:32.502 This was noted over 100 years ago in 1906 00:08:32.502 --> 00:08:34.087 by the Norwegian doctor, 00:08:34.087 --> 00:08:35.384 Marie Jeancet. 00:08:36.414 --> 00:08:40.986 She examined a middle-aged sex worker, 00:08:40.986 --> 00:08:46.162 and concluded that her genitalia were reminiscent of a teenage virgin. 00:08:47.587 --> 00:08:49.529 But that makes sense, right? 00:08:49.529 --> 00:08:53.692 Because if her hymen was never damaged during sex, 00:08:53.692 --> 00:08:56.397 then what were we expecting to see? NOTE Paragraph 00:08:57.957 --> 00:09:01.974 ESD: Since hymens come in every shape and form, 00:09:01.974 --> 00:09:03.466 it difficult to know 00:09:03.466 --> 00:09:08.581 if a dent or a fold in it is there because of previous damage, 00:09:08.581 --> 00:09:11.764 or if it's just a normal anatomical variant. 00:09:13.310 --> 00:09:16.490 The absurdity of virgin testing 00:09:16.490 --> 00:09:22.456 is illustrated in a study done on 36 pregnant teenagers. 00:09:23.689 --> 00:09:26.212 When doctors examined their hymens, 00:09:26.212 --> 00:09:29.573 they could only find clear signs of penetration 00:09:29.573 --> 00:09:33.073 in two out of the 36 girls. 00:09:35.623 --> 00:09:40.488 So unless you believe in 34 cases of virgin births -- NOTE Paragraph 00:09:40.488 --> 00:09:42.228 (Laughter) 00:09:42.228 --> 00:09:43.813 we must all agree 00:09:43.813 --> 00:09:48.032 that also our second myth has taken a vital blow. 00:09:49.206 --> 00:09:52.619 You simply cannot look a woman between her legs 00:09:52.619 --> 00:09:54.766 and read her sexual story. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:59.800 --> 00:10:01.559 NDB: Like most myths, 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.181 the myths about the hymen are untrue. 00:10:05.227 --> 00:10:07.692 There is no virgin seal 00:10:07.692 --> 00:10:10.842 that magically disappears after sex, 00:10:10.842 --> 00:10:15.889 and half of virgins can easily have sex without bleeding. 00:10:17.504 --> 00:10:20.919 We wish we could say that by removing these myths, 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:23.222 everything would be OK -- 00:10:23.222 --> 00:10:29.582 that shame, harm and honor killings would all just disappear, 00:10:29.582 --> 00:10:31.829 but of course it's not that simple. 00:10:32.606 --> 00:10:36.139 Sexual oppression of women comes from something much deeper 00:10:36.139 --> 00:10:40.119 than a simple, anatomical misunderstanding 00:10:40.119 --> 00:10:42.105 about the properties of the hymen. 00:10:43.242 --> 00:10:48.981 It's a question of cultural and religious control of women's sexuality, 00:10:48.981 --> 00:10:51.265 and that is much harder to change. 00:10:52.087 --> 00:10:53.711 But we must try. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:55.633 --> 00:10:57.610 ESD: As medical professionals, 00:10:57.610 --> 00:10:59.870 this is our contribution. 00:11:00.851 --> 00:11:04.607 We want every girl, parent and [incoming] husband 00:11:04.607 --> 00:11:07.489 to know what the hymen is 00:11:07.489 --> 00:11:09.099 and how it works. 00:11:09.939 --> 00:11:11.471 We want them to know 00:11:11.471 --> 00:11:15.231 that the hymen can't be used as proof of virginity. 00:11:16.131 --> 00:11:17.261 And that way, 00:11:17.261 --> 00:11:20.925 we can remove one of the most powerful tools 00:11:20.925 --> 00:11:23.392 used to control young women today. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:25.684 --> 00:11:28.398 After telling you this, 00:11:28.398 --> 00:11:32.634 you may wonder what the alternative is, 00:11:32.634 --> 00:11:37.489 for if we cannot use the hymen as a proof of virginity for women, 00:11:37.489 --> 00:11:39.119 then what should we use? 00:11:41.658 --> 00:11:44.263 We opt for using nothing. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:44.957 --> 00:11:46.875 (Cheering) NOTE Paragraph 00:11:46.875 --> 00:11:47.879 If you -- NOTE Paragraph 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:51.903 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:11:54.274 --> 00:11:58.693 If you really want to know if a woman is a virgin or not, 00:11:58.693 --> 00:11:59.693 ask her. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:59.693 --> 00:12:00.691 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:12:01.341 --> 00:12:05.938 But how she answers that question is her choice. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:07.620 --> 00:12:08.654 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:12:08.654 --> 00:12:10.221 (Applause)