1 00:00:00,751 --> 00:00:02,770 Nina Dølvik Brochmann: We grew up believing 2 00:00:02,794 --> 00:00:05,947 that the hymen is a proof of virginity. 3 00:00:07,358 --> 00:00:09,227 But it turns out, we were wrong. 4 00:00:10,060 --> 00:00:11,465 What we discovered 5 00:00:11,489 --> 00:00:15,720 is that the popular story we're told about female virginity 6 00:00:16,208 --> 00:00:19,740 is based on two anatomical myths. 7 00:00:21,374 --> 00:00:25,668 The truth has been known in medical communities for over 100 years, 8 00:00:26,251 --> 00:00:32,322 yet somehow these two myths continue to make life difficult 9 00:00:32,346 --> 00:00:34,262 for women around the world. 10 00:00:35,714 --> 00:00:38,814 Ellen Støkken Dahl: The first myth is about blood. 11 00:00:39,457 --> 00:00:43,139 It tells us that the hymen breaks and bleeds 12 00:00:43,163 --> 00:00:46,268 the first time a woman has vaginal sex. 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,734 In other words, if there is no blood on the sheets afterwards, 14 00:00:50,758 --> 00:00:53,639 then the woman was simply not a virgin. 15 00:00:54,959 --> 00:00:59,135 The second myth is a logical consequence of the first. 16 00:00:59,861 --> 00:01:03,535 Since the hymen is thought to break and bleed, 17 00:01:03,559 --> 00:01:07,266 people also believe that it actually disappears 18 00:01:07,290 --> 00:01:12,885 or is in some way radically altered during a woman's first intercourse. 19 00:01:14,037 --> 00:01:15,621 If that were true, 20 00:01:16,216 --> 00:01:21,969 one would easily be able to determine if a woman is a virgin or not 21 00:01:21,993 --> 00:01:24,152 by examining her genitals, 22 00:01:24,176 --> 00:01:26,748 by doing a virginity check. 23 00:01:28,290 --> 00:01:30,094 NDB: So that's our two myths: 24 00:01:30,118 --> 00:01:31,765 virgins bleed, 25 00:01:31,789 --> 00:01:33,999 and hymens are lost forever. 26 00:01:35,301 --> 00:01:38,460 Now, this may sound like a minor issue to you. 27 00:01:38,484 --> 00:01:40,080 Why should you care 28 00:01:40,104 --> 00:01:44,541 about an obscure little skin fold on the female body? 29 00:01:45,823 --> 00:01:49,028 But the truth is, this is about so much more 30 00:01:49,052 --> 00:01:51,893 than an anatomical misunderstanding. 31 00:01:53,186 --> 00:01:57,166 The myths about the hymen have lived on for centuries 32 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:59,578 because they have cultural significance. 33 00:02:00,536 --> 00:02:03,450 They have been used as a powerful tool 34 00:02:03,474 --> 00:02:06,687 in the effort to control women's sexuality 35 00:02:06,711 --> 00:02:11,254 in about every culture, religion and historical decade. 36 00:02:12,705 --> 00:02:15,560 Women are still mistrusted, 37 00:02:16,049 --> 00:02:17,409 shamed, 38 00:02:17,433 --> 00:02:18,602 harmed 39 00:02:18,626 --> 00:02:22,123 and, in the worst cases, subjected to honor killings 40 00:02:22,147 --> 00:02:25,004 if they don't bleed on their wedding night. 41 00:02:26,488 --> 00:02:31,146 Other women are forced through degrading virginity checks, 42 00:02:31,170 --> 00:02:34,051 simply to obtain a job, 43 00:02:34,592 --> 00:02:36,600 to save their reputation 44 00:02:36,624 --> 00:02:38,074 or to get married. 45 00:02:39,367 --> 00:02:41,280 ESD: Like in Indonesia, 46 00:02:41,304 --> 00:02:46,242 where women are systematically examined to enter military service. 47 00:02:47,336 --> 00:02:50,923 After the Egyptian uprisings in 2011, 48 00:02:50,947 --> 00:02:56,227 a group of female protesters were forced to undergo virginity checks 49 00:02:56,251 --> 00:02:57,673 by their military. 50 00:02:58,936 --> 00:03:03,879 In Oslo, doctors are examining the hymens of young girls 51 00:03:03,903 --> 00:03:08,016 to reassure parents that their children are not ruined. 52 00:03:08,625 --> 00:03:11,276 And sadly, the list goes on. 53 00:03:12,533 --> 00:03:17,826 Women are so afraid not to live up to the myths about the hymen 54 00:03:17,850 --> 00:03:22,308 that they choose to use different virginity quick fixes 55 00:03:22,332 --> 00:03:23,925 to assure a bleeding. 56 00:03:24,952 --> 00:03:26,856 That could be plastic surgery, 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,579 known as "revirgination," 58 00:03:28,968 --> 00:03:32,473 it could be vials of blood poured on the sheets after sex 59 00:03:32,887 --> 00:03:36,208 or fake hymens bought online, 60 00:03:36,232 --> 00:03:38,065 complete with theater blood 61 00:03:38,089 --> 00:03:42,571 and a promise to "kiss your deep, dark secret goodbye." 62 00:03:46,438 --> 00:03:50,798 NDB: By telling girls that no deed can be kept secret, 63 00:03:51,555 --> 00:03:55,192 that their bodies will reveal them no matter what, 64 00:03:55,905 --> 00:03:58,557 we have endowed them with fear. 65 00:04:00,070 --> 00:04:02,957 Girls are afraid of ruining themselves, 66 00:04:02,981 --> 00:04:04,765 either through sport, 67 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:05,940 play, 68 00:04:05,964 --> 00:04:07,115 tampon use 69 00:04:07,139 --> 00:04:08,441 or a sexual activity. 70 00:04:09,656 --> 00:04:13,229 We have curtailed their opportunities and their freedoms. 71 00:04:14,213 --> 00:04:17,698 It's time we put an end to the virginity fraud. 72 00:04:18,282 --> 00:04:21,253 It's time we break the myths about the hymen 73 00:04:21,277 --> 00:04:22,902 once and for all. 74 00:04:24,267 --> 00:04:26,364 ESD: We are medical students, 75 00:04:26,388 --> 00:04:28,256 sexual health workers 76 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:31,780 and the authors of "The Wonder Down Under." 77 00:04:31,804 --> 00:04:33,070 (Laughter) 78 00:04:33,598 --> 00:04:37,259 That's a popular science book about the female genitals. 79 00:04:37,852 --> 00:04:40,692 And in our experience, people seem to believe 80 00:04:40,716 --> 00:04:45,216 that the hymen is some kind of a seal covering the vaginal opening. 81 00:04:46,161 --> 00:04:49,987 In Norwegian, it is even called "the virgin membrane." 82 00:04:50,376 --> 00:04:53,385 And with this, we picture something fragile, 83 00:04:53,409 --> 00:04:56,240 something easily destructible, 84 00:04:56,264 --> 00:04:58,087 something you can rip through, 85 00:04:58,738 --> 00:05:01,974 perhaps like a sheet of plastic wrapping. 86 00:05:03,045 --> 00:05:06,830 You may have wondered why we brought a hula hoop onstage today. 87 00:05:07,838 --> 00:05:08,993 We'll show you. 88 00:05:11,466 --> 00:05:12,715 (Laughter) 89 00:05:15,096 --> 00:05:17,950 Now, it is very hard to hide 90 00:05:17,974 --> 00:05:20,397 that something has happened to this hoop, right? 91 00:05:21,442 --> 00:05:24,644 It is different before and after I punched it. 92 00:05:25,035 --> 00:05:27,010 The seal is broken, 93 00:05:27,586 --> 00:05:29,345 and unless we change the plastic, 94 00:05:29,369 --> 00:05:31,489 it won't get back to its intact state. 95 00:05:32,677 --> 00:05:36,958 So if we wanted to do a virginity check on this hoop right here, 96 00:05:36,982 --> 00:05:38,242 right now, 97 00:05:38,266 --> 00:05:39,960 that would be very easy. 98 00:05:40,827 --> 00:05:46,295 It's easy to say that this hoop is not a virgin anymore. 99 00:05:47,244 --> 00:05:48,520 (Laughter) 100 00:05:49,184 --> 00:05:52,605 NDB: But the hymen is nothing like a piece of plastic 101 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:54,635 you can wrap around your food, 102 00:05:54,659 --> 00:05:55,809 or a seal. 103 00:05:56,456 --> 00:05:57,656 In fact ... 104 00:06:00,435 --> 00:06:02,006 it's more like this -- 105 00:06:02,609 --> 00:06:05,011 a scrunchie or a rubber band. 106 00:06:06,437 --> 00:06:11,481 The hymen is a rim of tissue at the outer opening of the vagina. 107 00:06:12,103 --> 00:06:15,942 And usually, it has a doughnut or a half-moon shape 108 00:06:16,422 --> 00:06:18,576 with a large, central hole. 109 00:06:19,855 --> 00:06:21,307 But this varies a lot, 110 00:06:21,331 --> 00:06:24,767 and sometimes hymens can have fringes, 111 00:06:24,791 --> 00:06:26,627 it can have several holes, 112 00:06:27,182 --> 00:06:29,667 or it can consist of lobes. 113 00:06:30,696 --> 00:06:35,469 In other words, hymens naturally vary a lot in looks, 114 00:06:35,493 --> 00:06:39,810 and that is what makes it so hard to do a virginity check. 115 00:06:41,614 --> 00:06:45,154 ESD: Now that we know a bit more about the hymen's anatomy, 116 00:06:45,178 --> 00:06:47,640 it's time to get back to our two myths: 117 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,769 virgins bleed, 118 00:06:49,793 --> 00:06:52,196 hymens are lost forever. 119 00:06:53,224 --> 00:06:57,015 But the hymen doesn't have to break at all. 120 00:06:57,685 --> 00:07:02,500 The hymen is like a scrunchie in function as well as in looks. 121 00:07:03,165 --> 00:07:05,667 And you can stretch a scrunchie, right? 122 00:07:06,811 --> 00:07:07,961 (Laughter) 123 00:07:08,446 --> 00:07:10,611 You can stretch a hymen, too. 124 00:07:11,673 --> 00:07:14,653 In fact, it's very elastic. 125 00:07:16,467 --> 00:07:17,921 And for a lot of women, 126 00:07:17,945 --> 00:07:22,593 the hymen will be elastic enough to handle a vaginal intercourse 127 00:07:22,617 --> 00:07:25,124 without sustaining any damage. 128 00:07:27,051 --> 00:07:32,076 For other women, the hymen may tear a bit to make room for the penis, 129 00:07:32,752 --> 00:07:34,749 but that won't make it disappear. 130 00:07:35,262 --> 00:07:37,872 But it may look a bit different from before. 131 00:07:42,785 --> 00:07:45,387 NDB: So where does that leave us with our two myths? 132 00:07:46,017 --> 00:07:47,601 Well, first of all, 133 00:07:48,129 --> 00:07:50,733 if you have an elastic hymen, 134 00:07:51,342 --> 00:07:53,821 you will simply never bleed from sex. 135 00:07:55,027 --> 00:07:57,813 It doesn't matter if you're a virgin or not. 136 00:07:58,310 --> 00:08:01,601 It's an anatomical impossibility. 137 00:08:02,177 --> 00:08:05,531 And that is the case for half of you -- 138 00:08:06,305 --> 00:08:08,784 except for the men amongst you, of course. 139 00:08:08,808 --> 00:08:09,990 (Laughter) 140 00:08:11,211 --> 00:08:13,080 So in other words, 141 00:08:13,104 --> 00:08:15,010 some virgins bleed, 142 00:08:15,561 --> 00:08:17,657 but some simply don't. 143 00:08:18,193 --> 00:08:20,877 And that's our first myth shattered. 144 00:08:22,192 --> 00:08:25,667 It naturally follows that you can't examine the hymen 145 00:08:25,691 --> 00:08:27,524 to check for virginity status. 146 00:08:28,401 --> 00:08:32,375 This was noted over 100 years ago in 1906 147 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:35,384 by the Norwegian doctor Marie Jeancet. 148 00:08:36,268 --> 00:08:39,905 She examined a middle-aged sex worker 149 00:08:40,850 --> 00:08:46,268 and concluded that her genitalia were reminiscent of a teenage virgin. 150 00:08:47,499 --> 00:08:49,418 But that makes sense, right? 151 00:08:49,442 --> 00:08:53,582 Because if her hymen was never damaged during sex, 152 00:08:53,606 --> 00:08:56,311 then what were we expecting to see? 153 00:08:57,861 --> 00:09:01,429 ESD: Since hymens come in every shape and form, 154 00:09:01,934 --> 00:09:03,326 it difficult to know 155 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:08,541 if a dent or a fold in it is there because of previous damage, 156 00:09:08,565 --> 00:09:11,568 or if it's just a normal anatomical variant. 157 00:09:13,111 --> 00:09:15,898 The absurdity of virgin testing 158 00:09:16,378 --> 00:09:22,515 is illustrated in a study done on 36 pregnant teenagers. 159 00:09:23,657 --> 00:09:26,157 When doctors examined their hymens, 160 00:09:26,181 --> 00:09:29,438 they could only find clear signs of penetration 161 00:09:29,462 --> 00:09:33,062 in 2 out of the 36 girls. 162 00:09:35,530 --> 00:09:40,077 So unless you believe in 34 cases of virgin births -- 163 00:09:40,101 --> 00:09:41,655 (Laughter) 164 00:09:42,124 --> 00:09:43,736 we must all agree 165 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,979 that also our second myth has taken a vital blow. 166 00:09:49,094 --> 00:09:52,484 You simply cannot look a woman between her legs 167 00:09:52,508 --> 00:09:54,655 and read her sexual story. 168 00:09:59,649 --> 00:10:04,031 NDB: Like most myths, the myths about the hymen are untrue. 169 00:10:05,227 --> 00:10:10,746 There is no virgin seal that magically disappears after sex, 170 00:10:10,770 --> 00:10:15,817 and half of virgins can easily have sex without bleeding. 171 00:10:17,419 --> 00:10:20,748 We wish we could say that by removing these myths, 172 00:10:20,772 --> 00:10:22,455 everything would be OK, 173 00:10:23,023 --> 00:10:28,129 that shame, harm and honor killings would all just disappear. 174 00:10:29,582 --> 00:10:31,829 But of course, it's not that simple. 175 00:10:32,438 --> 00:10:36,051 Sexual oppression of women comes from something much deeper 176 00:10:36,075 --> 00:10:41,984 than a simple anatomical misunderstanding about the properties of the hymen. 177 00:10:43,067 --> 00:10:48,426 It's a question of cultural and religious control of women's sexuality. 178 00:10:48,829 --> 00:10:51,159 And that is much harder to change. 179 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:53,565 But we must try. 180 00:10:55,561 --> 00:10:59,799 ESD: As medical professionals, this is our contribution. 181 00:11:00,850 --> 00:11:05,373 We want every girl, parent and coming husband to know 182 00:11:05,397 --> 00:11:09,229 what the hymen is and how it works. 183 00:11:09,939 --> 00:11:11,213 We want them to know 184 00:11:11,237 --> 00:11:15,085 that the hymen can't be used as a proof of virginity. 185 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:20,777 And that way, we can remove one of the most powerful tools 186 00:11:20,801 --> 00:11:23,268 used to control young women today. 187 00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:27,440 After telling you this, 188 00:11:28,326 --> 00:11:31,302 you may wonder what the alternative is, 189 00:11:32,570 --> 00:11:36,841 for if we cannot use the hymen as a proof of virginity for women, 190 00:11:37,306 --> 00:11:38,936 then what should we use? 191 00:11:41,467 --> 00:11:44,207 We opt for using nothing. 192 00:11:44,721 --> 00:11:46,699 (Cheering) 193 00:11:46,723 --> 00:11:47,884 If you -- 194 00:11:47,908 --> 00:11:51,932 (Applause) 195 00:11:54,162 --> 00:11:58,242 If you really want to know if a woman is a virgin or not, 196 00:11:58,621 --> 00:11:59,775 ask her. 197 00:11:59,799 --> 00:12:00,949 (Laughter) 198 00:12:01,285 --> 00:12:05,882 But how she answers that question is her choice. 199 00:12:07,607 --> 00:12:08,758 Thank you. 200 00:12:08,782 --> 00:12:11,150 (Applause)