WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.564 Even if you don't get it, 00:00:01.564 --> 00:00:03.643 you can be supportive and be with us. 00:00:03.643 --> 00:00:05.393 Our identity remains legitimate. 00:00:05.393 --> 00:00:06.376 It's valid. 00:00:06.736 --> 00:00:08.966 Testimonies Non-binary Gender 00:00:08.966 --> 00:00:11.406 I'm Cami, 22 years old, I'm non-binary. 00:00:11.406 --> 00:00:13.266 I'm here to talk about being non-binary. 00:00:13.266 --> 00:00:14.911 "Non-binary" is an umbrella term. 00:00:14.911 --> 00:00:17.250 It brings together all gender identities 00:00:17.250 --> 00:00:19.480 that are neither exclusively masculine 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:20.820 nor exclusively feminine. 00:00:21.174 --> 00:00:23.714 It could be agender, "a" as in taking away, 00:00:23.714 --> 00:00:25.319 without gender, neutral, 00:00:25.319 --> 00:00:27.643 or it could be all fluid identities, 00:00:27.643 --> 00:00:31.110 like when we imagine gender as a spectrum with two poles, 00:00:31.110 --> 00:00:32.400 one masculine one feminine, 00:00:32.400 --> 00:00:34.150 and a slider that we can move, 00:00:34.150 --> 00:00:36.570 for everyone who's gender fluid, 00:00:36.570 --> 00:00:39.312 demigender, pangender, etc. 00:00:39.312 --> 00:00:41.858 I never really self-identified as feminine. 00:00:41.858 --> 00:00:45.108 When I was 18, I already began 00:00:45.108 --> 00:00:47.750 to explore my own gender identity, 00:00:47.750 --> 00:00:49.720 and I met a trans man, 00:00:49.720 --> 00:00:51.473 I was with him for some time, 00:00:51.803 --> 00:00:54.759 together we tried to define my identity. 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:56.362 It turned out to be non-binary. 00:00:56.653 --> 00:00:57.973 I think it's because 00:00:57.973 --> 00:00:59.412 he was more informed than me, 00:00:59.412 --> 00:01:01.762 so he could help me find the words 00:01:02.232 --> 00:01:03.500 to describe my identity. 00:01:03.500 --> 00:01:05.480 Gender identity is part of who we are. 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:07.260 It's the gender that we feel, 00:01:07.653 --> 00:01:09.073 that we live and experience. 00:01:09.203 --> 00:01:13.386 Gender expression is what we show other people. 00:01:13.386 --> 00:01:16.111 It's the way we express this identity. 00:01:16.111 --> 00:01:18.044 Someone can have a gender identity 00:01:18.044 --> 00:01:19.635 that's, for example, masculine, 00:01:19.635 --> 00:01:21.278 so they are a man, 00:01:21.278 --> 00:01:23.738 and have a gender expression that's feminine 00:01:23.738 --> 00:01:26.188 with more traits considered feminine in society. 00:01:26.188 --> 00:01:28.288 Like Jonathan Van Ness, who is a man 00:01:28.288 --> 00:01:30.568 with a feminine gender expression. 00:01:31.352 --> 00:01:34.724 I came out to my parents as non-binary 00:01:34.724 --> 00:01:36.454 and said I wanted to change my name 00:01:36.454 --> 00:01:37.183 all at once. 00:01:37.807 --> 00:01:40.794 I was 20 years old, it was 2 years ago. 00:01:41.623 --> 00:01:43.287 My mom took it well. 00:01:43.287 --> 00:01:46.669 She was already familiar with queerness. 00:01:46.669 --> 00:01:49.366 She's pretty progressive, a "safe person". 00:01:49.366 --> 00:01:50.570 I felt safe with her. 00:01:51.273 --> 00:01:53.090 With my dad, it's a bit more tricky. 00:01:53.090 --> 00:01:55.206 I spent more time talking with him 00:01:55.206 --> 00:01:58.056 and I didn't do it in person. 00:01:58.056 --> 00:02:00.766 I sent him a message, it's easier for me to manage. 00:02:02.036 --> 00:02:03.215 He took it pretty well, 00:02:03.215 --> 00:02:04.655 said he didn't get everything, 00:02:04.655 --> 00:02:06.755 but he's there to support me anyway, 00:02:06.755 --> 00:02:08.324 it won't change anything for him, 00:02:08.324 --> 00:02:09.518 he loves me all the same. 00:02:09.518 --> 00:02:11.388 For my grandma, it's a bit less obvious 00:02:12.118 --> 00:02:14.508 because it's something quite far from her world. 00:02:14.508 --> 00:02:17.338 She's from a rural area, then moved to Paris. 00:02:17.338 --> 00:02:20.008 She lived with my granddad for 50 years. 00:02:20.008 --> 00:02:22.748 Her surrounding were very cis-heteronormative, 00:02:22.748 --> 00:02:25.998 she never questioned her identity or that of others. 00:02:26.227 --> 00:02:28.926 When I discussed it with her, she was a bit taken aback, 00:02:29.007 --> 00:02:33.357 but she always took care to conduct herself 00:02:33.357 --> 00:02:35.157 in the best way possible around me. 00:02:35.157 --> 00:02:36.267 She makes an effort. 00:02:36.267 --> 00:02:38.765 She doesn't make mistakes with pronouns now. 00:02:38.895 --> 00:02:41.077 I applied to change my first name 00:02:41.077 --> 00:02:43.278 in 2019. 00:02:43.622 --> 00:02:47.702 I made an application with my municipal government. 00:02:48.421 --> 00:02:50.641 I got a form, filled it out, 00:02:50.641 --> 00:02:52.791 with my friends and family as witnesses 00:02:52.791 --> 00:02:56.297 who said they addressed me as "Cami". 00:02:56.792 --> 00:02:59.872 I asked my school for a letter of support. 00:03:00.531 --> 00:03:01.833 Then, I submitted my form. 00:03:01.833 --> 00:03:03.808 I waited a few months, 00:03:03.808 --> 00:03:05.184 this varies by municipality, 00:03:05.184 --> 00:03:07.714 and my name change was approved. 00:03:07.714 --> 00:03:08.883 Misgendering as person 00:03:08.883 --> 00:03:12.802 means addressing a person using incorrect pronouns, 00:03:13.133 --> 00:03:15.316 like gendering a non-binary person 00:03:15.316 --> 00:03:19.419 who explicitly asked you to use neutral pronouns, 00:03:19.419 --> 00:03:20.285 like "they/them", 00:03:20.285 --> 00:03:23.633 and still addressing them by feminine or masculine pronouns. 00:03:23.973 --> 00:03:25.790 Personally, I use what we call 00:03:25.790 --> 00:03:29.180 feminine pronouns when speaking, an neutral pronouns in writing. 00:03:29.485 --> 00:03:31.204 Actually, in general, 00:03:31.204 --> 00:03:32.964 I would tell you, right off the bat, 00:03:32.964 --> 00:03:34.734 that I prefer to be addressed 00:03:34.734 --> 00:03:36.618 by feminine pronouns in speaking. 00:03:36.618 --> 00:03:38.578 If someone doesn't tell you, 00:03:38.578 --> 00:03:42.578 and you want to make sure to gender them correctly, 00:03:42.578 --> 00:03:44.558 you can ask them their pronouns 00:03:44.558 --> 00:03:46.816 or wait for them to gender themselves, 00:03:46.816 --> 00:03:48.472 so you can respect their pronouns. 00:03:48.472 --> 00:03:51.352 Beneath the videos that I previously made, 00:03:51.352 --> 00:03:52.972 there were many comments 00:03:52.972 --> 00:03:55.392 refusing to recognize our identities, 00:03:55.392 --> 00:04:00.244 denying our gender expression and gender identities. 00:04:00.497 --> 00:04:03.791 Anyways, I rarely read these comments, 00:04:03.791 --> 00:04:06.373 because I know most of them are ill-intentioned 00:04:06.373 --> 00:04:08.523 or just so, so wrong 00:04:08.523 --> 00:04:10.233 that they will just hurt me. 00:04:10.233 --> 00:04:13.573 I was in a tv report, and in the same program 00:04:13.573 --> 00:04:15.441 people were calling it fashion, 00:04:15.441 --> 00:04:17.890 saying it appeared only a few years ago, 00:04:17.890 --> 00:04:19.493 in the US, 10 years ago, 00:04:19.493 --> 00:04:22.103 that it has to do with fashion, 00:04:22.103 --> 00:04:24.483 the unisex trend, etc. 00:04:24.483 --> 00:04:25.633 That's completely wrong. 00:04:25.633 --> 00:04:32.898 I also find it a very white perspective, very Eurocentric, 00:04:32.898 --> 00:04:35.006 because in so many cultures, 00:04:35.006 --> 00:04:37.126 there are multiple gender identities, 00:04:37.126 --> 00:04:41.252 but they were simply wiped out by colonisation. 00:04:41.252 --> 00:04:45.922 We often hear people say it's problematic or annoying 00:04:45.922 --> 00:04:48.042 to constantly create new vocabulary 00:04:48.042 --> 00:04:49.746 to self-identify and reidentify, 00:04:49.746 --> 00:04:51.796 but for me it's super important 00:04:51.796 --> 00:04:55.096 to first of all be able to self-identify, 00:04:55.096 --> 00:04:56.682 in order to disidentify 00:04:56.682 --> 00:04:59.165 with the arbitrary identity assigned to us. 00:04:59.165 --> 00:05:00.706 I think it's also important 00:05:00.706 --> 00:05:03.242 to find your community, bond with people 00:05:03.242 --> 00:05:05.432 to know you're not alone, support is available, 00:05:05.432 --> 00:05:07.812 and there are more people like us 00:05:07.812 --> 00:05:09.287 who understand and listen to us. 00:05:09.287 --> 00:05:10.903 If I could only say one thing, 00:05:10.903 --> 00:05:13.549 I think it would be that even if you don't get it, 00:05:13.549 --> 00:05:15.804 you can be supportive and be with us. 00:05:15.804 --> 00:05:19.396 You can learn, you can deconstruct thought patterns, 00:05:19.396 --> 00:05:23.046 you can unlearn things, support your friends and family, 00:05:23.046 --> 00:05:28.334 even if you don't understand everything about their gender identity. 00:05:28.334 --> 00:05:29.103 One more thing: 00:05:29.103 --> 00:05:30.832 every non-binary person 00:05:30.832 --> 00:05:34.571 has a different way to express their identity. 00:05:34.571 --> 00:05:38.781 Whether they choose medical transitions, take hormones, 00:05:38.781 --> 00:05:40.483 whether they have surgery, or not, 00:05:40.483 --> 00:05:42.398 no matter which way 00:05:42.398 --> 00:05:45.073 or whether or not we transition, 00:05:45.073 --> 00:05:46.713 socially, medically, etc., 00:05:46.963 --> 00:05:49.953 our identity remains legitimate, it's valid, 00:05:49.953 --> 00:05:52.895 and there's a good number of us out there.