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Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.44,0:00:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SON: Growing up as a child
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.92,0:00:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Sally Mann was not easy at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.32,0:00:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyone who's as driven as Sally Mann is
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.16,0:00:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to be an intense mother.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.68,0:00:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's difficult,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.56,0:00:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for as much as I get annoyed
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.12,0:00:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and struggle against it and fight it,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.96,0:00:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love it at the same time,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.20,0:00:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it's such a Yin and a Yang.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.92,0:01:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MANN: God, it does look like the Shroud of Turin
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.84,0:01:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or something.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.44,0:01:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks so ponderous –
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.07,0:01:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas this looks so ephemeral.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.68,0:01:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God, they're just two different pictures.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.36,0:01:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some pictures just have to be a certain way,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.16,0:01:22.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this doesn't seem to cry \Nout to be either light or dark.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.96,0:01:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which just makes my job harder, actually.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.46,0:01:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,WOMAN:: Every time she looks at something,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.20,0:01:31.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she's looking at it as an artist.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.20,0:01:33.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so much of her energy.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.28,0:01:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I think we lost, to some extent, a mother,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.20,0:01:42.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we gained a friend, \Nand an artistic accomplice,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.44,0:01:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something entirely different.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.90,0:01:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,MAN: it's a tremendous effort that goes into it.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.40,0:01:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sally will have a pile of, what \NI think are beautiful prints,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.20,0:01:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those are the rejects,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.52,0:01:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm sitting here going, god.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.16,0:02:08.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a tough one.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.04,0:02:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I like about these dog \Nbones is their ambiguity.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.20,0:02:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It takes you a while to figure out what they are,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.92,0:02:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or maybe you don't figure it out.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.68,0:02:23.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it doesn't have ambiguity, \Ndon't bother to take it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.96,0:02:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I love that, that aspect of photography,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.32,0:02:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mendacity of photography.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.92,0:02:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's got to have some kind of peculiarity in it
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.32,0:02:33.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or it's not interesting to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.88,0:02:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Do right.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.44,0:02:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Just stay there.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.68,0:02:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I could be said to have any kind of aesthetic,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.00,0:02:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's sort of a magpie aesthetic, you know.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.08,0:02:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just go around and I pick up whatever's around.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.28,0:02:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very spontaneous.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.76,0:02:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see a dog bone, I bring it in,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.92,0:02:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I take a picture, I like the picture.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.56,0:02:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I took, well, hey, that's a pretty good picture,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.88,0:02:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so then I go collect all the other dog bones
Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.68,0:03:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I bring them in and I \Ntake a few more pictures,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.16,0:03:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I put them on the wall,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.36,0:03:03.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then before long, the gallery says,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.84,0:03:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, let's do a show of dog bones."
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.16,0:03:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we do a show of dog bones,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.76,0:03:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then some, like, cynical post-modern critic
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.66,0:03:11.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will come along and say,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.04,0:03:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, my god, look at the show of dog bones,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.92,0:03:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you suppose it means?"
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.76,0:03:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's, ohh! That's a \Ngood dog. Sure, go get it.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.12,0:03:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These dog bones are just making art
Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.48,0:03:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way art should be made, I think,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.08,0:03:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without any overarching reference.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.52,0:03:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just for fun, if you can imagine that,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.12,0:03:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,art for fun, sometimes it is fun.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.24,0:03:44.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a lot of dispute about \Nthe proper way to hold this glass.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.30,0:03:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I learned how to do this from a master,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.00,0:03:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's just a genius teacher,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.80,0:03:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he really knows wet plate collodion.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.80,0:03:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his name's Mark Osterman.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.68,0:04:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a sort of cranky process.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.04,0:04:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't allow for much sloppy technique.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.12,0:04:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hard to get these chemicals.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.00,0:04:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all, you know, controlled.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.84,0:04:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Collodion and ether, and of course, grain alcohol
Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.52,0:04:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can get, but you can't get it in virginia.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.56,0:04:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you take it to the silver nitrate.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.52,0:04:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Whoa, there's a bug in here.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.92,0:04:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for reasons that escape me completely,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.40,0:04:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the silver nitrate sticks to the \Ncollodion and ether and coats it.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.72,0:04:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My plates are horribly flawed.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.08,0:04:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, of course, it's the flaws I like,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.52,0:04:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you pray.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.68,0:04:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In your prayer, you pray,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.08,0:04:50.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,please don't let me screw \Nit up, but just screw it up
Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.92,0:04:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit, just enough to make it interesting.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.24,0:05:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so stupid – I have to use \None hand to hold my shutter shut,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.16,0:05:09.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to use a head to \Nkeep the camera from moving.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.92,0:05:14.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's got to be an easier way.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.68,0:05:15.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All right, well, what do you think?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.60,0:05:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,30 seconds, I'd say.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.04,0:05:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, I'm surprised it took me \Nthis long to get to this process.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.04,0:05:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I was so immersed in that whole \Nglass plate, 19th-century aesthetic.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.47,0:05:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–I like that one, there's \NJenna being the weirdo again.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.00,0:05:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Sally: Oh, without the splinter?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.24,0:05:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Daughter: she's so normal-looking \Nnow, no one would know that she was...
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.28,0:05:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was just beautiful, \Nand she looked like someone
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.68,0:06:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that stepped out of the wrong century.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.96,0:06:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Yeah, great little model, though.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.74,0:06:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Daughter: The most incredible little girl.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.18,0:06:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Sally: She could put on a \Npout like nobody's business.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.44,0:06:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Daughter: She could throw a \Nfit like nobody's business.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.36,0:06:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Sally: Well, that's true, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.76,0:06:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The way I approach photography, \Nit's very spontaneous.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.12,0:06:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The children were there,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.92,0:06:19.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I took pictures of my children.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.32,0:06:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not that I'm interested \Nin children that much,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.40,0:06:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or photographing them, it's \Njust that they were there.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.78,0:06:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daughter: She would call \Nus her models, but usually
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.08,0:06:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was just something where she'd say "Freeze,"
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.36,0:06:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'd stop what we were doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.76,0:06:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes she'd make some small alteration,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.52,0:06:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that was all.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.56,0:06:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one where my hair is on my ribs,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.52,0:06:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember that I had to keep going back
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.88,0:06:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wetting my hair,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.28,0:06:46.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it would dry and then slip, so...
Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.40,0:06:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the only thing that I remember.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.36,0:06:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Sally: do you remember how
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.92,0:06:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many times we took that picture?\N–Daughter: Yes, we… I remember.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.56,0:06:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Sally: That was a production, because \Nsomeone had to sit behind you in the river
Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.92,0:06:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thwack the river with the canoe
Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.48,0:06:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make those little ripples that are behind you.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.40,0:07:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Man: that's what I was doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.14,0:07:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,–Sally: yeah, you were thwacking the river,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.64,0:07:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she was standing there keeping her hair
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.48,0:07:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from falling off her ribs.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.36,0:07:08.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And still maintaining a beatific expression.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.96,0:07:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a really hard picture to take.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.04,0:07:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted those family pictures to look effortless.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.20,0:07:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted them to look like snapshots.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.80,0:07:21.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is something about \Nthe whole 8 x 10 business.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.72,0:07:23.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The sort of reverence that goes along with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.72,0:07:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you have to, you have to pay your dues
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.84,0:07:28.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the photo gods, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.84,0:07:31.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Son: You know, my mother's vision,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.76,0:07:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she had an idea, it was almost like a dream.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.80,0:07:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think she has a dream picture,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.88,0:07:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she just gradually, like, refines it
Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.04,0:07:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until it's exactly what she's looking for.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.08,0:07:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took like five separate trips out here,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.12,0:07:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and taking, probably, looked \Nlike 15 to 20 pictures
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.68,0:07:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every single time.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.52,0:07:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was looking, every time \Nshe took a picture of me,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.68,0:07:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew she was looking for that
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.96,0:08:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intensity that I feel my sisters and I have,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.84,0:08:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother has –
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.52,0:08:04.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's just like this intensity, Mann intensity,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.92,0:08:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what it is, \Nit plagues me to this day.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.17,0:08:12.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sally: it was my father who gave me
Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.60,0:08:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost all my cameras, the \Nfirst half-dozen, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.16,0:08:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was an atheist who practiced
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.24,0:08:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compassionate medicine, 60 hours a week.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.12,0:08:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was enough of a socialist to believe
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.08,0:08:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you shouldn't have to pay for it if you couldn't.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.08,0:08:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he was also an art collector,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.76,0:08:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, he bought Kandinsky in the '30s,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.04,0:08:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Twombly in the '50s.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.72,0:08:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was quite an unusual \Nman, and hell to live up to.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.28,0:08:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then, of course, my mother...
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.73,0:08:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in all different kinds of poses here.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.28,0:08:54.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You couldn't have two more disparate backgrounds.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.20,0:08:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother with this, like, blue-blood New England,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.12,0:09:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my father sort of a renegade Texan.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.72,0:09:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I was the third child.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.28,0:09:08.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two older brothers.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.08,0:09:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I sort of think by the time I came along,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.80,0:09:12.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone was tired of raising children.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.44,0:09:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't that they neglected me,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.00,0:09:15.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a benign neglect, I guess.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.92,0:09:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know I never wore clothes.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.36,0:09:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're all, every picture of me is naked.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.68,0:09:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they had 12 boxers, so I was always
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.44,0:09:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surrounded by a pack of dogs.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.64,0:09:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just ran wild for the first \Nseven years of my life –
Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.52,0:09:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then went to school,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.48,0:09:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and didn't take to it too kindly,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.84,0:09:33.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was eventually civilized.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.56,0:09:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess that's a little how I raised my own kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.00,0:09:42.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a little why I was so nonplussed
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.60,0:09:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when people were so surprised
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.28,0:09:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see the pictures of my children without shirts
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.12,0:09:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pants, and running wild, too.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.64,0:09:54.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seemed like a perfectly \Nnormal thing to do, to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.35,0:09:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daughter: I don't think I've \Never seen this one before.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.56,0:10:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See, that's an example, \Nyou see your hand in there?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.68,0:10:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see how your gesture is?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.92,0:10:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You didn't have that clunky child thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.68,0:10:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were so svelte and sylph-like.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.04,0:10:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daughter: Everyone looks at these pictures,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.44,0:10:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's like, you must have \Nhad the most amazing childhood.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.24,0:10:27.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We did.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.36,0:10:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was literally a water nymph \Nuntil I was 12, I think.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.68,0:10:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't magical at the \Ntime, but looking back on it,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.72,0:10:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's kind of like...
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.00,0:10:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But then, you know, she said that all the pictures
Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.20,0:10:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started looking like fashion ads.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.68,0:10:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, she had to do something else.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.41,0:10:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Son: I love the landscapes,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.44,0:10:51.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't have any problem with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.64,0:10:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was ready to stop getting –
Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.76,0:10:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking pictures.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.56,0:10:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was like, ahh, no more taking pictures.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.97,0:11:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daughter: I argue that the \Nlandscapes are going to be
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.80,0:11:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ones that she's going to be remembered for.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.20,0:11:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the end, that's going to be what's going to be
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.88,0:11:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most lasting body of work.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.36,0:11:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think so, I think \Nimmediate family was, actually.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.70,0:11:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pictures of us were, actually.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.14,0:11:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I'm just playing.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.44,0:11:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because these are the most \Ninteresting subject matter.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.42,0:11:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sally: Well, certainly.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.12,0:11:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these have the better skill.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.68,0:11:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's funny, 'cause mom's so...
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.28,0:11:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to leave, mom.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.84,0:11:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel stupid talking about \Nher if she's in the room.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.76,0:11:39.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's, she was raised with no sense of God
Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.76,0:11:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in such an atheistic family.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.72,0:11:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you'll never hear her say \Nanything spiritual or religious.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.24,0:11:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spiritual, maybe.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.84,0:11:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even then, she's like, I don't \Nwant to get too touchy-feely.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.96,0:11:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's really against that stuff.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.16,0:11:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think it's her bible, it's her expression \Nof her spirituality that she can't say
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.75,0:12:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without feeling stupid.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.56,0:12:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe it's the same thing with immediate family,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.24,0:12:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of a maternal understanding, maternal love,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.68,0:12:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's so hard to express, so she took pictures.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.66,0:12:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Son: I know my mother loves the South,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.12,0:12:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like there's something just incredible
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.36,0:12:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about places that don't have malls,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:25.92,0:12:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and have like a real sense of history.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.60,0:12:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I feel like, especially in the United \NStates, like that is being destroyed so quickly.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.33,0:12:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sally: Of course, I can't see \Nanymore because I'm blind.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.88,0:12:44.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have your reading glasses, Larry?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.64,0:12:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Son: Dad is just as much a part of Mom,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.40,0:12:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their relationship is so much tied with the land,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.88,0:12:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I feel like they just are \Nreally aware of how important
Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.68,0:12:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maintaining a sense of \Nbeauty in what surrounds you.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.00,0:13:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can make a print of it.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.12,0:13:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Man: I just love the feel of the large images.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.36,0:13:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often I'll be there when the image is being made.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.08,0:13:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just part of a continuum.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.64,0:13:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically, it's basically pretty good.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.54,0:13:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks nice against the black.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.24,0:13:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you feel like you're \Nintimately involved in the whole process,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.32,0:13:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet once that final image hits the \Nwall, it's got a life of its own.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.04,0:13:39.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really, it's a wonderful \Nexperience altogether.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.15,0:13:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sally: ah!\NJust a little lighter.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.13,0:13:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[singing] Over the miles...