1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,479 Hey, this is Jody with another weekly video. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,820 This week's video is a bit of a hot button topic: 3 00:00:08,820 --> 00:00:11,799 it's sharpening tungsten electrodes. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,439 There's a lot of opinions out there on that. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,119 Basically, there is best practice up here 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,479 of using a diamond wheel of a certain grit 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,399 that-- that is dedicated 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,599 to only ever sharpening tungsten electrodes, 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,999 and then there's everything else. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,599 There's a lot of ways to do it. 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,959 I've seen it done a lot of ways, a lot of pretty crude ways, 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,919 and I've seen a lot of-- well, I've seen a lot of x-ray welds 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,919 made with improperly sharpened electrodes. 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,479 So, just-- just contributing 15 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:41,479 to the conversation today, 16 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:43,279 let's get on with it. 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,639 There are a lot of benefits 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,079 to having a dedicated tungsten grinder, 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,359 like a handheld one like this. 20 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,479 You can cut, if you get a blob of metal on it, 21 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:53,119 you can cut it off really easily with the diamond wheel. 22 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,519 You can put a flat spot on the end, you can put a consistent taper 23 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,119 with the scratches all running like they ought to be, 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,739 and the taper is consistent every single time, 25 00:01:01,740 --> 00:01:02,899 and you eliminate variables. 26 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:04,259 You can also trap the dust, 27 00:01:04,260 --> 00:01:06,259 like this one's got a little capsule, 28 00:01:06,260 --> 00:01:07,459 traps the tungsten dust. 29 00:01:07,460 --> 00:01:09,459 That's that's definitely a benefit. 30 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:10,939 But I don't have one, 31 00:01:10,940 --> 00:01:12,356 and I just can't make myself buy one, 32 00:01:12,356 --> 00:01:15,299 because every time I think about spending the 300 33 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:17,299 or more dollars, even up to $800, 34 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:19,139 I think about what else I can buy with that, 35 00:01:19,140 --> 00:01:21,979 and I wind up not getting one, so here are some other options. 36 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:25,579 Here's one that a lot of people aren't necessarily familiar with, 37 00:01:25,580 --> 00:01:26,979 it's called Chem Sharp. 38 00:01:26,980 --> 00:01:29,259 It's a powdered, uh, chemical 39 00:01:29,260 --> 00:01:30,779 that you dip the electrode in 40 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:33,619 after getting the tip of it red hot, 41 00:01:33,620 --> 00:01:34,899 and a couple ways to get it red hot, 42 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:36,219 really, the best way is probably just 43 00:01:36,220 --> 00:01:37,779 with a little handheld propane torch. 44 00:01:37,780 --> 00:01:39,859 You don't have to ground out your machine like this, 45 00:01:39,860 --> 00:01:42,179 but you can-- you can just ground it out, 46 00:01:42,180 --> 00:01:43,979 get it hot, 47 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:46,339 and dip it in and out, in and out, in and out, 48 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:49,579 and, uh, it will put a taper on there 49 00:01:49,580 --> 00:01:51,739 as long and sharp as you want. 50 00:01:51,740 --> 00:01:53,819 It's just messy, it stinks, 51 00:01:53,820 --> 00:01:55,859 I am pretty sure breathing that junk 52 00:01:55,860 --> 00:01:57,619 is not good for you. 53 00:01:57,620 --> 00:01:59,099 Uh, it really stinks, 54 00:01:59,100 --> 00:02:01,249 so keep-- if you-- if you use this, 55 00:02:01,250 --> 00:02:03,689 either, you know, keep your face out of that stuff. 56 00:02:03,690 --> 00:02:05,969 Don't breathe it, can't be good for you. 57 00:02:05,970 --> 00:02:08,329 And also, it's good to have a piece of Scotch-Brite around 58 00:02:08,330 --> 00:02:11,169 and get that mess off of there, it's always got residue on it, 59 00:02:11,170 --> 00:02:13,129 but it works, it's pretty cheap, 60 00:02:13,130 --> 00:02:14,311 it's very portable, 61 00:02:14,311 --> 00:02:16,369 and, again, it works. 62 00:02:16,370 --> 00:02:18,889 I just don't really care for it because of the fumes. 63 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:21,169 Another-- another nonstandard method 64 00:02:21,170 --> 00:02:23,249 that's used a lot on construction jobs 65 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:25,209 by boilermakers and pipefitters 66 00:02:25,210 --> 00:02:26,889 is using a cutting torch. 67 00:02:26,890 --> 00:02:28,689 Now, the first time I heard about this, 68 00:02:28,690 --> 00:02:30,808 I was working on a paper mill job and the foreman said, 69 00:02:30,808 --> 00:02:33,210 "Hey, you ever sharpen electrodes with a cutting torch?" 70 00:02:33,210 --> 00:02:34,849 And I thought, okay, here we go. 71 00:02:34,850 --> 00:02:37,609 Left-handed pipe wrench joke coming, or skyhook, 72 00:02:37,610 --> 00:02:38,790 or bucket of weld tacks, 73 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:41,249 but sure enough, it works. 74 00:02:41,250 --> 00:02:43,102 It is not the best way to sharpen electrodes, 75 00:02:43,103 --> 00:02:45,504 certainly if you're at home, it's not an economical way, 76 00:02:45,504 --> 00:02:48,089 using all that gas when you could sharpen them 77 00:02:48,090 --> 00:02:50,209 on a on a grinder or using that Chem Sharp. 78 00:02:50,210 --> 00:02:53,009 But you get it red hot, you hit the lever 79 00:02:53,010 --> 00:02:54,889 and uh, 80 00:02:54,890 --> 00:02:57,289 and go up and down and it erodes. 81 00:02:57,290 --> 00:02:58,569 Basically, it just, uh, 82 00:02:58,570 --> 00:03:00,989 oxidizes a layer off of that thing gradually 83 00:03:00,990 --> 00:03:03,029 and taper it on down, and you can get a-- 84 00:03:03,030 --> 00:03:05,029 you can get a really decent point, 85 00:03:05,030 --> 00:03:08,589 just like you can with a Chem Sharp, kind of. 86 00:03:08,590 --> 00:03:10,349 Now, here's one on the left side, 87 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:11,709 here you can see it's a long taper, 88 00:03:11,710 --> 00:03:14,149 but it's also black and oxidized, 89 00:03:14,150 --> 00:03:15,509 and if you do this, you kind of need 90 00:03:15,510 --> 00:03:16,589 to light up on a piece of scrap 91 00:03:16,590 --> 00:03:18,909 and let that stuff outgas. 92 00:03:18,910 --> 00:03:20,429 Now, this is a rough way to do it. 93 00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:22,989 Just using a regular grinding rock 94 00:03:22,990 --> 00:03:24,709 on a 4.5in grinder, 95 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:25,989 chucking the electrode up 96 00:03:25,990 --> 00:03:27,789 in a little cordless drill. 97 00:03:27,790 --> 00:03:29,269 You know, most people have a grinder 98 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:31,589 and a cordless drill, and it works. 99 00:03:31,590 --> 00:03:32,749 It's just a little rough, 100 00:03:32,750 --> 00:03:35,589 but I do it all the time, to be honest with you, 101 00:03:35,590 --> 00:03:37,269 for a lot of jobs, it's okay. 102 00:03:37,270 --> 00:03:39,309 Of course, there's the old method here. 103 00:03:39,310 --> 00:03:42,589 Mom! He's grinding the tungsten sideways again! 104 00:03:42,590 --> 00:03:44,389 Mom! 105 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:47,879 Oh, well, never mind. 106 00:03:49,310 --> 00:03:51,389 I picked this up at Home Depot for, 107 00:03:51,390 --> 00:03:53,789 I think, on sale for $30. 108 00:03:53,790 --> 00:03:55,669 Six inch bench grinder. 109 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:57,869 I mean, this is-- this for most people, 110 00:03:57,870 --> 00:04:00,649 unless you're working in the nuclear industry, 111 00:04:00,650 --> 00:04:01,824 semiconductor industry, 112 00:04:01,824 --> 00:04:05,129 pharmaceutical piping, things of that nature. 113 00:04:05,130 --> 00:04:07,889 For most-- for most jobs, this-- this will be just fine. 114 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:11,489 There is a risk of embedding aluminum oxide on the tip, 115 00:04:11,490 --> 00:04:12,769 but it's been done-- 116 00:04:12,770 --> 00:04:14,249 this method has been used 117 00:04:14,250 --> 00:04:16,649 for so many years, using aluminum oxide wheels. 118 00:04:16,650 --> 00:04:19,009 Lots of good welds have been made this way. 119 00:04:19,010 --> 00:04:22,489 Another method is just a belt sander, of all kinds. 120 00:04:22,490 --> 00:04:25,655 This-- this is one type of belt sander that would work, 121 00:04:25,655 --> 00:04:29,921 and that belt has been used for other stuff, 122 00:04:29,921 --> 00:04:33,969 but unless you are working on a really critical application, 123 00:04:33,970 --> 00:04:35,809 you're probably not going to notice any difference, 124 00:04:35,810 --> 00:04:37,689 to be honest with you, 125 00:04:37,690 --> 00:04:42,569 and this will put a nice-- this will put a nice taper on there. 126 00:04:42,570 --> 00:04:47,089 It's about 100 grit to 120 grit belt, 127 00:04:47,090 --> 00:04:48,289 and I can put as long a taper 128 00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:50,169 or as blunt a taper as I want, 129 00:04:50,170 --> 00:04:52,209 just they're not going to be 100% consistent 130 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:54,529 like they would with an electrode grinder. 131 00:04:54,530 --> 00:04:57,899 But, again, it works. 132 00:04:58,690 --> 00:04:59,799 These diamond wheels 133 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,319 is this little four piece set from Harbor Freight. 134 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,599 It's got a quarter inch shank arbor on it, 135 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,039 and I just chucked it up in a straight grinder. 136 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,359 And it's not the safest, not nearly as safe 137 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,199 as an electrode grinder because it's not encapsulated, 138 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,159 doesn't trap the dust and doesn't have a guard on it 139 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,079 and everything, but this little wheel 140 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,559 works really well for cutting electrodes, 141 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,319 as well as putting a pretty quick taper on them. 142 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,519 Just hold this with one hand 143 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,679 and then the drill with the other, 144 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,079 and again, it's a little bit cumbersome, 145 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,399 so it's not my favorite way. 146 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,243 But it does put a really-- a really good point on an electrode, 147 00:05:33,243 --> 00:05:34,719 and it does it really quickly. 148 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,839 And you can get the scratches running pretty-- pretty favorably. 149 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:40,799 So that's just just an option, 150 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,833 like the cheapest way to go diamond wheel. 151 00:05:42,833 --> 00:05:44,599 Another way that I've read about on forums 152 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,839 that I, that I tried here, 153 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:48,279 don't really recommend it, 154 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:52,319 is just a diamond cutting wheel like this on a 4.5in grinder, 155 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,519 and you can actually-- I've seen actually on forums, 156 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,439 where guys drill holes 157 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,279 in the-- in the guard, 158 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:00,579 and then poke the electrode through there to kind of support it, 159 00:06:00,580 --> 00:06:04,579 but I could just kind of prop it against the guard like this. 160 00:06:04,580 --> 00:06:06,619 And the-- the sparks, 161 00:06:06,620 --> 00:06:07,899 while not trapping the dust, 162 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:09,779 at least it kind of directs them 163 00:06:09,780 --> 00:06:11,539 and don't just go everywhere. 164 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:13,139 And that actually didn't work too bad. 165 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:16,339 It put a really quick point on one, just really rough scratches. 166 00:06:16,340 --> 00:06:17,659 The point on the right there 167 00:06:17,660 --> 00:06:19,179 is the point that was done 168 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:21,059 using that particular diamond wheel, 169 00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:23,579 and you can see that the scratches are pretty rough, 170 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:26,219 as opposed to the one on the left done on the belt sander, 171 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:28,619 which about-- with about 100 grit belt. 172 00:06:28,620 --> 00:06:30,419 And what I'm going to do with this electrode 173 00:06:30,420 --> 00:06:33,259 is I'm going to do two different applications. 174 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:36,139 The one on the left, with the nice needle point, 175 00:06:36,140 --> 00:06:38,459 which, if I was welding on something very thick 176 00:06:38,460 --> 00:06:41,779 or at high amperage, I might flatten off. 177 00:06:41,780 --> 00:06:43,486 But I'm not, I'm going to actually light up 178 00:06:43,486 --> 00:06:46,179 on some razor blade box cutter stuff 179 00:06:46,180 --> 00:06:47,979 with this 3/32 electrode. 180 00:06:47,980 --> 00:06:51,124 This is 3/32, 2.4mm, 181 00:06:51,124 --> 00:06:52,939 and the point here is 182 00:06:52,940 --> 00:06:54,099 when would you-- when would you 183 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:55,819 use a long tapered sharpened like that 184 00:06:55,820 --> 00:06:58,699 versus a less sharpened one, a blunt one 185 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:01,639 like this, and what would be a good application for each? 186 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,159 So, that's what we're about to do. 187 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,199 Again, this is the 100 grit, tapered back pretty far. 188 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,599 I'm leaving it at a needle point 189 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,879 because I'm going to put a little tack 190 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,319 on the end of the box cutters here, 191 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,319 and just getting a-- you can see, lighting up, 192 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,679 it's a fairly stable arc, but then 193 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,879 when it hit the thin stuff, 194 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,719 it kind of wanted to favorably move in that position. 195 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,679 But the point is here, 196 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,239 you don't always have the right size electrode in your box. 197 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,279 You know, this-- this-- these box cutter blades, 198 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,759 actually, the right size electrode 199 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,999 would probably be an .040, a 40,000, 200 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,672 so a one millimeter electrode. 201 00:07:35,672 --> 00:07:37,919 20 amps is what I'm using here. 202 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,359 Um, and you can see it's not-- 203 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,639 the arc is not wandering everywhere. 204 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,759 It didn't wander everywhere 205 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,919 even to get a tack on the end, 206 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,639 and it's a 3/32 electrode. 207 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,799 And there are guys that will use a 1/8 electrode 208 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,599 for almost everything, they'll just sharpen it, 209 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,759 uh, a lot-- a lot sharper 210 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,639 for-- for light amperage, 211 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,414 thin stuff like this, 212 00:08:00,414 --> 00:08:01,989 and that's what's in their box, 213 00:08:01,990 --> 00:08:03,989 and that's what they use. 214 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:06,269 It's not the best practice, not the best thing to do, 215 00:08:06,270 --> 00:08:08,469 but it works in a pinch. 216 00:08:08,470 --> 00:08:09,849 So here's another application, 217 00:08:09,849 --> 00:08:12,149 this is just a bead on a big, thick chunk of metal 218 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:13,989 that's not cleaned very well, 219 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:15,789 and you can see the rough-- rough scratches 220 00:08:15,790 --> 00:08:17,709 that aren't running perfectly longitudinally. 221 00:08:17,710 --> 00:08:20,149 But at 135 amps, 222 00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:22,469 you're not going to get much arc wandering, 223 00:08:22,470 --> 00:08:25,069 no matter how you put the scratches. 224 00:08:25,070 --> 00:08:28,469 Now, don't get me wrong, I am all for best practices 225 00:08:28,470 --> 00:08:30,539 and doing things the correct way, 226 00:08:30,539 --> 00:08:32,949 because you don't have to wonder when things go wrong 227 00:08:32,950 --> 00:08:34,429 if that was contributing to it. 228 00:08:34,430 --> 00:08:36,469 But I also live in the real world, 229 00:08:36,470 --> 00:08:39,309 and I've seen it done a lot of ways. 230 00:08:39,310 --> 00:08:41,629 Well, I hope this video gave you some things to think about. 231 00:08:41,630 --> 00:08:45,229 Maybe gave you some new ideas o sharpening electrodes. 232 00:08:45,230 --> 00:08:46,916 There's also a lot more information 233 00:08:46,916 --> 00:08:49,509 on topics like this over at the forum, 234 00:08:49,510 --> 00:08:52,269 at forum.weldingtipsandtricks.com. 235 00:08:52,270 --> 00:08:55,749 It's a great place to go for welding information. 236 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:57,532 We'll see you next week.