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- Hi everyone, Sal Khan
here from Khan Academy.

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Welcome to the Homeroom live stream.

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A very exciting conversation today.

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We have Mala Sharma who is the VP

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and GM of creative cloud at Adobe.

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But before we jump into that conversation

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I will give some of our
standard announcements.

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First, a reminder that Khan Academy

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is a not-for-profit organization,

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we can only exist through donations

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from folks like yourself.

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So if you're in a position to do so,

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please think about making a
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I also want to give a special shout out

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to several organizations that
stepped up during the pandemic

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when they realized that we were
running at a bigger deficit

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than normal because of
all of the server costs

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and our desire to accelerate content

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to support tens of millions
of learners around the world.

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So, special thanks to Bank
of America, AT&T, Google.org

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Novartis, Fastly, and general motors.

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I also want to give a
special shout out to Adobe.

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This is a new thing that
we are announcing right now

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and one of the reasons why Mala
is here amongst many others

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as our creativity partner
and we're gonna be talking

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a lot more about just education

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and the role that creativity has to play

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and how Khan Academy and
Adobe hope to work together

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to really push the envelope there.

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And last but not least,
I wanna remind everyone

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that there's a version of this

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that you can get wherever
you get your podcast,

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Homeroom with Sal, The podcasts.

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So with that, I'm excited
to introduce Mala Sharma,

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VP and GM of Adobe Creative Cloud.

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Mala, great to see you.

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- It's great to see you too Sal,

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thank you so much for having me here.

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- Well, there's a ton of stuff
I wanna talk ask you about.

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I know you care deeply about education,

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it's teacher appreciation week.

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I wanna learn about your journey
and of course I wanna talk

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about what we are now
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Adobe and Khan Academy but
maybe a good place to start

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just so people understand context,

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what is the Adobe Creative
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and general manager of
Adobe Creative Cloud do?

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- So Adobe Creative Cloud
is the creativity platform

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that anybody can use

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who has an idea to put
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We have professionals who use it,

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we have students, we have
consumers like you and I

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who have an idea and wanna
have impact in the world

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that has applications like
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InDesign, Illustrator,

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applications that work on the desktop,

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on your mobile phone, on the web.

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Adobe Spark is a part of a creative cloud

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that is a web based application

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and not only does it have applications

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it also has services integrated

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so you can collaborate on creative cloud.

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You have content you can
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you have fonts that you can
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So, think about anything
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is available within creative
cloud and what I do at Adobe,

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I have the privilege of managing

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the product marketing organization

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and the education business.

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So, I'm responsible for thinking

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about how do we get our
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to our customers, how
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how do we make them
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wherever they are in
any part of the world,

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any platform that they're on
and I work with product teams,

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engineering teams, marketing teams

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to get the product out there
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- Yeah, and I've had a long relationship

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with many of those products products.

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I use them now but I all the way back,

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I think it was as early as 1991 or 1992

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when I was the art
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for our school newspaper in New Orleans

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under Mrs. Kennedy who
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that I always make a point of appreciating

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during teacher appreciation week.

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She was our journalism
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But that's when I first used,

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what was now part of
the Adobe Creative Cloud

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but I used all of the various
things that Adobe suite.

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I'm curious, how do
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there's a lot of areas
where Adobe is used.

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Obviously a lot of designers,
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et cetera, et cetera.

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What is the lens that y'all
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in the context of supporting
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- Yeah, education is very important

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from a couple of perspectives.

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First of all, we believe
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are innately creative

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and giving everybody a
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of building self-worth,

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building great citizens in the world

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and therefore education is a conduit,

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is a very important vertical
for us to get students access

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to our products so that
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And we have so many infinite
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when they're able to put
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put a voice to their ideas,

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what it does to their self-confidence

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and what it does to student
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So, a big part of our focus

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is getting the products with
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making them work on platforms
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whether they're on the web,

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whether they're on mobile
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working in the lab.

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So, it's about making
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in these different places,
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Adobe Spark is free for students to use.

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Creative Cloud which is
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is just $5 a year for student in K-12.

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So, really it's about
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as well as making them
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but the second area Sal
is about the teachers.

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And again, it's great to be here with you

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during teacher appreciation
week announcing this partnership

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because teachers are aware
where this all happens.

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They are the ones who sort
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through the learning process
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to bring creativity into the classroom

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is another really important
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We have a platform called
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there's over a million
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there's sharing ideas with each other,

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there's project plans,

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there's lesson plans available for them,

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of how they can bring
creativity into a Math class

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or into a science class
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Because what that does is one,

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it makes learning more interesting.

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It engages students but most importantly,

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the teachers can assess

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what the student is actually
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through what they create.

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So, education to us

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is about making both of
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which is putting the products
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and preparing the teachers
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and bring creativity into the classroom.

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- And I definitely want to
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especially what both
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hope to do together.

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But before we go there,

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I do wanna focus a
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That's one of the interesting things

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about these conversations.

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I always love to learn

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how people got to where they're going.

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We have a lot of young
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a lot of parents who are watching this.

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So, when you were young
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middle school, did you say,

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"I Mala Sharma I'm going to be a VP

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and GM of Adobe Creative Cloud."

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What did you think you were going to do?

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- Oh my Gosh.

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Well, if you asked my mom,

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she probably thought I was up to no good.

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I was a very, very naughty
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who was trying to distract
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and distract the students
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I'm sorry.

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- Do you remember what you did?

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- Oh my gosh.

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I don't know if parents
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but I used to be the student
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of the classroom and
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this is what we did in India.

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We made airplanes with, you know, paper

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and we threw it out in
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I would chew chalk and then throw chalk

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at different students, I was really bad.

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- Chew chalk, that's a new one.

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I didn't know that
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- Oh my God.

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Yes, I was a very naughty student

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but at some point...

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- No, no, go ahead.

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I was going to say it
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Please keep going.

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- Yes, at some point,

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I think I realized that
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to pay attention to learning

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and I think my mother
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was part of that.

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And really, I think the way I'd sum it up,

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it's a sequence of events that
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but happened but I think
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from my teachers, from my
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was to be ready to embrace
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and be able to not just embrace
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of accept what happened but embrace them

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and take them forward.

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There's been lots of ups
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to get to here but what's been consistent

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is being confident, having
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and a deep sense of confidence

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that if somebody presents
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and I think that comes from the learning.

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The learning and the teachers around me

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and all the examples that were around me

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that gave you that confidence.

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- Yeah, so, I mean, going
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Your mother was a teacher

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and still, it sounds like at a young age

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you were maybe not the most
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in at least in the, in the classroom.

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Do you remember when it
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Was there a particular moment?

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Clearly your mother is a teacher

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who played a big role in your life

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if we're thinking about
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but were there moments in your education

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where you started saying, "Wow,
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I'm not passionate about this

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or this person is really invested in me."

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- Yeah, I think what my mom did for us

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was it was not just about what
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but she also encouraged us

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to do different kinds of learning

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so she put us into theater.

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I was on stage at an early stage,

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I was learning Indian classical music.

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I was learning rowing and a
variety of different experiences

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that taught me consistently

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that then I practiced and
when I learned from people

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who knew more than me
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and I observed what they did,

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that I was able to
incorporate that learning

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into whatever that I was practicing

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and I think it was the
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and the interest that those
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took in me that helped me get better

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that into into the classroom as well.

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when it came to just regular studies,

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it was a biology teacher who I
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She really made learning
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And this is again many,
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in a government school
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and we heard that the
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but the teacher made it
interesting by making us take walks

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helping students get together in groups

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and have conversations about
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the different insects we saw
bringing art by having us draw

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what we were seeing.

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the interest that she took

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in making it fun and
making it non monotonous

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and surprising is what
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get more interested in learning.

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of what I was doing, I
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about continuing to do my studies.

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- And I'm always curious

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because when I remember when I
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and even in college, you
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their mid-career or they've kind of gotten

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to impressive places, what is the path?

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How did they figure that out?

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Did they know what they were doing?

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I clearly didn't know what I was doing,

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what did you think you were going to do?

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When did you kind of find your direction?

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Did you know you're going
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go into marketing,

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did you think you were
going to do something else?

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And when did you figure that out?

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as I said, I was in theater,

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my first dream was to actually
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And I was in a theater through
school, through college

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but then my parents didn't
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My next choice was to join the Indian Navy

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because my father is a war
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"I wanna go represent my
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He then discouraged me from
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women didn't get great
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We were typically stuck behind the desk

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as opposed to what I wanted
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So, that's what I wanted to do.

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And when neither of those worked
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of my batch at the time,

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everybody was studying to go abroad

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and I was like, "No, I
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I wanna work for my country."

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And I decided to do my
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because I didn't want to do science

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because it looked like
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and people studied too much.

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So, I kind of made the
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and ended up doing my MBA.

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And then after that life just happened.

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I was I think ultimately
Sal if I were to look back

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on what's consistent is what
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but what values get instilled in you.

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And I think that's helped me
through and sort of guided me

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through all the ups and downs

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and I've had plenty of downs as well

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is really sort of hanging
onto the values that matter

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and for me, it's about doing
what's right, not, what's good.

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It's about being consistent
in thought, word and action

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and it's those kinds of
values that see you through

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and I think it's so important.

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Again, teachers, parents
play such an important role

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in not just teaching us the
studies that we'd have to do

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but also demonstrating
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for us when it comes to values.

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- Now I'm curious, I did not
know this background of yours

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that you were essentially the theater kid

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turned a corporate leader.

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(Mala laughing)

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- It's funny, a lot of
folks, when I was in college,

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I took a theater class just on a whim

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just thinking it would
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and I thought it was transformational

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and when I really think about it,

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it affects how I even
interact with people,

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how I communicate, how aware
I am of of my own being,

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what was the effect of theater

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and obviously we're here
to talk about creativity.

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There's a lot of creativity in theater,

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how has that background given
you some superpowers in it?

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Most of the folks are corporate
leaders in Silicon Valley

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especially if were stereotypically say,

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coming from South Asia,

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they were probably engineering majors,

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come out here and start their
life as a software engineer

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and then move up through management

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but you have a very, very
different background.

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How has that either helped or hurt you?

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- I think the way it's helped me,

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there's a couple of
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One is the recognition that you alone

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are not what makes that play happen.

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There's you, there's the
person who pulls the curtain,

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there's the light, there's
the person behind the camera,

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there's a team that's involved

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and everybody has to work in sync.

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The production is great for the audience

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only when everybody is operating
together on time, on cue

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and all of that takes an
incredible amount of practice

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and incredible amount of collaboration

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and incredible clarity

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on what the outcome of
the play needs to be.

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And that's what work is about.

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The second thing that I
learned is improvisation

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because oftentimes the
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or excuse me, you might be with,

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they might forget that dialogue.

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You might forget your dialogue

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and being able to in the
moment sort of fill the gaps

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and let the story continue.

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And the third area, I think
is just the confidence, right

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of being in front of an audience

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and that's what business is about.

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Businesses is about collaboration,
it's about innovating,

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it's about creative ideas and
it's about selling those ideas

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confidently through storytelling.

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And so, I do think that it's
been something that's helped me

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and including my fighter spirit,

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all right, that's where
risk-taking and planning

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I think was an important
thing that I really admired

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about what my dad did

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and that's something I found
I've incorporated into my work

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which is really being thoughtful

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about what the strategy
for winning needs to be,

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what the operational efficiency

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and operational cadence needs to be.

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All of those skills that
you need in business.

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- I've never made the connection before

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but hearing you describe
it, you're so right.

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I feel like theater should be part

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of any business program now
because you're absolutely right.

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It's a clear goal,

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- Yeah.
- Lot of coordination

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but as soon as you're out there,
some new stuff might happen

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and you're going to have to improvise

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and it reminds me I actually
was for half a year in college

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on the improv comedy troupe.

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And we used to have to go to college

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(indistinct)

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and you just go on stage with no planning

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and people throw out words and scenarios

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and I have never gone
through more stressful thing

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in my life than being
on an improv comedy team

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but also, you want you to go
through that and you're like,

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"well, nothing else in life"

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(indistinct)

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I've never fully drawn the prowls.

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I'm gonna make sure my kids
get a little bit more drama

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(Mala chuckles)

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organized drama,

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I think unorganized drama for them.

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For unorganized in their lives.

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Well, let's put the gears a little bit,

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let's let's talk about this partnership

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that obviously I'm very excited about it

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but I'd love to hear
from your point of view,

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what excites you, or I'd love
to hear in your own words,

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what is the motivation for
partnering with Khan Academy

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and what do you hope
we're able to do together?

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- Yeah, So this is an amazing opportunity.

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And Sal, we are so proud and honored

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to be the creativity
partner for Khan Academy.

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As I said earlier,

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for Adobe, enabling creativity
for everyone is our mission.

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We believe every human
is innately creative

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and giving them a voice
is a part of our mission

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and the fact that your
platform serves many millions,

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I believe it's over a hundred
million students globally

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and the focus of your work
has been on in the STEM area.

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What I'm excited about,

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what Adobe is excited about
is giving all of these kids

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through the classroom access to tools

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where they can express
themselves creatively

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because what we've seen happen Sal

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and there's many, many examples
including a personal example

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I had when I was volunteering in India.

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We teach for India where kids
who'd never seen technology,

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had never interacted with Adobe tools,

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when they were given access to this,

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what it changed for them

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in terms of not just
the learning experience

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but what it did for them

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(indistinct)

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in confidence is what we are excited about

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and it's not just sort of the
storytelling aspect of it.

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We know that future hiring managers,

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they value creativity in employees.

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We know that the World Economic
Forum, Bloomberg, LinkedIn

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their research has it
that creativity is a skill

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that most hiring managers are looking for.

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So, the ramifications
of bringing creativity

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to your platform and the
lives that can impact

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is incredibly thrilling and so important

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especially in today's time

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where the entire education
experience has been upended

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because of COVID.

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- No, I couldn't agree with you more.

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From my point of view, what
we Khan Academy is missing

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as a not-for-profit is
free world-class education

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for anyone anywhere

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and education has a lot
of dimensions to it.

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There's the cognitive development of it,

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there's the socialization element of it,

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there's the credentialing side of it

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but even if you talk about
the cognitive side of it,

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a lot of folks listening
Bloom's cognitive taxonomy,

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it's usually drawn as a pyramid

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where the base is remembering,

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it's the most rote type of work to do

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then you go into skills procedures,

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and then as you get higher up the pyramid,

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you're getting into synthesis application

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at the very top as create.

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And I'm a big believer that
you need the whole pyramid

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that if you just do one
part without the other,

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you're selling yourself short

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but the reason why I believe
bloom started up as a pyramid

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is that they do too many
degrees build on each other

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not always, but many times build

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and Khan Academy has historically focused

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on I would say that core
foundational piece of the pyramid,

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more of the skill fluency, et cetera

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but there's always a
desire for real education.

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We got to make sure kids get
the top of the pyramid as well.

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And so for us to be able
to be so complimentary

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where the students and teachers

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who are already leveraging Khan Academy

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and hopefully many more to
make sure they have fluency

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in their mathematics and their sciences

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had that content knowledge
also have world-class tools

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to apply that in really thoughtful ways

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and that they compliment each other.

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So, this is this announcement
we're making this week.

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It's very exciting and
actually I'll cue this video

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that I think we've put together
that describes the program

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and I think we can comment on
it as it's playing as well.

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- [Presenter] Teach creativity
with Adobe and Khan Academy,

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a powerful new partnership
bringing together creative tools

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and content knowledge to
empower thousands of teachers

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and millions of students worldwide.

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- It's a beautiful blend

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of informative and engaging content.

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- [Presenter] Get started
today by registering

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for our brand new self paced
course available for free

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on the Adobe education exchange.

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Take this course and earn up to 20 hours

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of professional development credit

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and maybe even a visit
from Sal Khan himself,

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founder of Khan Academy.

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is best known for, yes, we are
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- So much fun.

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So, the course that we've designed,

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it's specifically designed
for Khan teachers.

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We built this along with your team Sal

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and the courses are
specifically designed to be used

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like creativity and math,
creativity and social studies,

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creativity and science

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and I know recently there's a young woman

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called Hillary Andeles who was part

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of your I think it's called a junior.

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- Breakthrough challenge, yeah?

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- Yeah, thank you.

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And she's somebody Adobe
is very familiar with.

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We got to know her a few years ago

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when she was in her teens.

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And as you know, she is,
you know a STEM enthusiast

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and she had a classmate
who was very creative

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and she decided as a as a young teen that,

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"Why can't I be creative?"

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And she started teaching herself
Photoshop and illustrator

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just for fun and unfortunately
while she was a little kid,

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she lived in Philippines, there
was this really big typhoon

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that hit Philippines in her town.

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It was called typhoon Yolanda

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and many people lost their lives

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and there was a lot of damage.

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And once she realized

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that the communication
that this put together

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to help people understand what the impact

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of the typhoon would be, was
just not impactful enough

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and that's when she made
a commitment to herself

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and has done some amazing work

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to really take science concepts

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and make them more
accessible and understandable

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through creative communication

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and she's done this amazing
work, created this amazing video

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and then of course she got
awarded the prize to the-

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- Exactly what number is this?

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- And she goes, yeah.

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- She it says it's six,
she says it's nine.

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- So who's right?
- Yeah, I know.

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- And she's an amazing
woman and now she's an MIT,

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thanks to the scholarship

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she got and-
- Added from

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different reference frame.

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Now, what exactly are...

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(faintly speaking)

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- Yeah, I think we can stop the video.

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- Yeah, she is so inspiring
but this is a great example

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and I hope that the
teachers on your platform

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can take advantage of
these lessons, plans.

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There's hundreds of lessons,
plans, there's projects,

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there's tests that they can
be bringing into the classroom

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to inspire these kids to
communicate and tell these stories

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in an impactful way making these concepts

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that can sometimes seem
obtuse, more accessible

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and have an impact.

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- Now, Hillary is great.

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I mean, all the Breakthrough
Junior Challenge winners.

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And it's a very impressive set of...

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They get $250,000 for college,

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- No.
- Their teacher gets $50,000

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and then they get a I think
a 50 or $100,000 science lab

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for the school, it's done
by the breakthrough prizes

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and it's really a
brainchild of Yuri Milner

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and several other folks
out here in Silicon Valley.

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But yeah, it's incredible.

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I'm privileged to be part of the process

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as one of the judges and
obviously we get the word out

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to the broader Khan Academy community.

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And to your point,

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Hilary shows that a lot
of people think somehow

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that that STEM and
creativity don't go together

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and in fact it's the exact opposite.

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I always say, the factoring of polynomial,

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those are giving you the toolkit

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so that you can unlock
your creativity in STEM.

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That's like saying that learning
to mix paint is painting.

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No, that unlocks your capability
to then become a painter.

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And you see someone like
Hillary shows that in spades

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and shows the importance
of this type of work.

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- Absolutely, absolutely.

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I'm super excited about what
your teachers can make possible

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for the kids.

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- Yeah, well, Mala, all these
conversations go much faster

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than I ever expect.

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Time flies when you're having fun.

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But I just wanted to
first of all thank you

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for sharing your story with us.

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Thank you for this partnership

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between Adobe and Khan Academy.

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I really do think it's going to unlock

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hopefully many millions of
Hilary Andeles around the world

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to benefit all of us and be
just more creative in the world

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which I think just makes
the world more interesting.

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Any final thoughts for all of the parents

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and students and teachers listening?

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- I want to say let your
kids express themselves

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in the way that they want to

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and know that the tools are just a means

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to get their ideas out and
creativity is equally important

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as the science and the
math that they're learning

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because that ultimately

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is how they will be able to have impact.

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Is by bringing their
ideas out into the world,

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sharing them with others
and having impact.

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So, thank you.

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- Love that, thank you so much Mala

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and I couldn't agree with you more.

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If you don't have that creativity side,

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then really all of the skill level

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is to some degree all for not.

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It's all it everything
it needs to be in service

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to creativity and we're so
excited about this partnership.

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Thank you so much.

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- Thank you, thank you, it's a pleasure.

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And thanks for having me.
- Well, thanks everyone.

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No, no, it's been a pleasure.

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Thanks everyone for joining today.

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We're very excited about this partnership

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with Khan Academy and
Adobe around creativity.

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Parents, students, teachers,
you can all check out the site

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that we're doing on the creativity cloud.

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I'm sure if you do a Google
search for Khan Academy,

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Adobe and the Creative Cloud,

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I'm sure you will find
all of these resources

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and we look forward to
continuing to go on this journey

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of learning with you.

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Thanks everyone.

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