WEBVTT 00:00:37.770 --> 00:00:40.240 - Hi everyone, Sal Khan here from Khan Academy. 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:43.730 Welcome to the Homeroom live stream. 00:00:43.730 --> 00:00:46.170 A very exciting conversation today. 00:00:46.170 --> 00:00:48.600 We have Mala Sharma who is the VP 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:51.560 and GM of creative cloud at Adobe. 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:53.270 But before we jump into that conversation 00:00:53.270 --> 00:00:55.940 I will give some of our standard announcements. 00:00:55.940 --> 00:00:57.840 First, a reminder that Khan Academy 00:00:57.840 --> 00:00:59.800 is a not-for-profit organization, 00:00:59.800 --> 00:01:01.260 we can only exist through donations 00:01:01.260 --> 00:01:02.300 from folks like yourself. 00:01:02.300 --> 00:01:03.300 So if you're in a position to do so, 00:01:03.300 --> 00:01:06.910 please think about making a donation@khanacademy.org/donate. 00:01:06.910 --> 00:01:09.170 I also want to give a special shout out 00:01:09.170 --> 00:01:12.750 to several organizations that stepped up during the pandemic 00:01:12.750 --> 00:01:15.380 when they realized that we were running at a bigger deficit 00:01:15.380 --> 00:01:17.270 than normal because of all of the server costs 00:01:17.270 --> 00:01:19.170 and our desire to accelerate content 00:01:19.170 --> 00:01:22.200 to support tens of millions of learners around the world. 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.160 So, special thanks to Bank of America, AT&T, Google.org 00:01:25.160 --> 00:01:27.550 Novartis, Fastly, and general motors. 00:01:27.550 --> 00:01:30.700 I also want to give a special shout out to Adobe. 00:01:30.700 --> 00:01:33.810 This is a new thing that we are announcing right now 00:01:33.810 --> 00:01:37.480 and one of the reasons why Mala is here amongst many others 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:41.340 as our creativity partner and we're gonna be talking 00:01:41.340 --> 00:01:43.760 a lot more about just education 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:46.170 and the role that creativity has to play 00:01:46.170 --> 00:01:48.710 and how Khan Academy and Adobe hope to work together 00:01:48.710 --> 00:01:50.570 to really push the envelope there. 00:01:50.570 --> 00:01:53.150 And last but not least, I wanna remind everyone 00:01:53.150 --> 00:01:54.710 that there's a version of this 00:01:54.710 --> 00:01:58.410 that you can get wherever you get your podcast, 00:01:58.410 --> 00:02:01.120 Homeroom with Sal, The podcasts. 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:04.320 So with that, I'm excited to introduce Mala Sharma, 00:02:04.320 --> 00:02:06.950 VP and GM of Adobe Creative Cloud. 00:02:06.950 --> 00:02:08.970 Mala, great to see you. 00:02:08.970 --> 00:02:10.200 - It's great to see you too Sal, 00:02:10.200 --> 00:02:12.193 thank you so much for having me here. 00:02:13.380 --> 00:02:17.800 - Well, there's a ton of stuff I wanna talk ask you about. 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:19.560 I know you care deeply about education, 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:20.870 it's teacher appreciation week. 00:02:20.870 --> 00:02:22.740 I wanna learn about your journey and of course I wanna talk 00:02:22.740 --> 00:02:25.500 about what we are now going to be doing together, 00:02:25.500 --> 00:02:28.691 Adobe and Khan Academy but maybe a good place to start 00:02:28.691 --> 00:02:31.080 just so people understand context, 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:34.550 what is the Adobe Creative Cloud and what does the VP 00:02:34.550 --> 00:02:36.900 and general manager of Adobe Creative Cloud do? 00:02:38.167 --> 00:02:41.640 - So Adobe Creative Cloud is the creativity platform 00:02:41.640 --> 00:02:43.240 that anybody can use 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.880 who has an idea to put out there in the world. 00:02:45.880 --> 00:02:47.350 We have professionals who use it, 00:02:47.350 --> 00:02:50.840 we have students, we have consumers like you and I 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.173 who have an idea and wanna have impact in the world 00:02:53.173 --> 00:02:58.173 that has applications like Photoshop, Premier Pro, 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.880 InDesign, Illustrator, 00:03:00.880 --> 00:03:03.790 applications that work on the desktop, 00:03:03.790 --> 00:03:05.640 on your mobile phone, on the web. 00:03:05.640 --> 00:03:08.760 Adobe Spark is a part of a creative cloud 00:03:08.760 --> 00:03:12.100 that is a web based application 00:03:12.100 --> 00:03:14.360 and not only does it have applications 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.210 it also has services integrated 00:03:16.210 --> 00:03:18.480 so you can collaborate on creative cloud. 00:03:18.480 --> 00:03:21.890 You have content you can use, you have templates, 00:03:21.890 --> 00:03:23.930 you have fonts that you can bring into your creation. 00:03:23.930 --> 00:03:28.090 So, think about anything you need to express an idea 00:03:28.090 --> 00:03:31.580 is available within creative cloud and what I do at Adobe, 00:03:31.580 --> 00:03:34.680 I have the privilege of managing 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.850 the product marketing organization 00:03:36.850 --> 00:03:38.640 and the education business. 00:03:38.640 --> 00:03:39.950 So, I'm responsible for thinking 00:03:39.950 --> 00:03:43.840 about how do we get our products more available 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:46.040 to our customers, how do we grow the business, 00:03:46.040 --> 00:03:48.930 how do we make them more accessible to users 00:03:48.930 --> 00:03:51.680 wherever they are in any part of the world, 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:55.490 any platform that they're on and I work with product teams, 00:03:55.490 --> 00:03:58.338 engineering teams, marketing teams 00:03:58.338 --> 00:04:01.363 to get the product out there and available to our customers. 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.700 - Yeah, and I've had a long relationship 00:04:05.700 --> 00:04:07.410 with many of those products products. 00:04:07.410 --> 00:04:09.940 I use them now but I all the way back, 00:04:09.940 --> 00:04:12.820 I think it was as early as 1991 or 1992 00:04:12.820 --> 00:04:16.230 when I was the art editor and layout editor 00:04:16.230 --> 00:04:19.050 for our school newspaper in New Orleans 00:04:20.060 --> 00:04:22.390 under Mrs. Kennedy who is one of the teachers 00:04:22.390 --> 00:04:24.490 that I always make a point of appreciating 00:04:24.490 --> 00:04:25.700 during teacher appreciation week. 00:04:25.700 --> 00:04:28.650 She was our journalism and our English teacher. 00:04:28.650 --> 00:04:30.400 But that's when I first used, 00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:32.520 what was now part of the Adobe Creative Cloud 00:04:32.520 --> 00:04:36.980 but I used all of the various things that Adobe suite. 00:04:36.980 --> 00:04:40.203 I'm curious, how do you and how does Adobe, 00:04:41.690 --> 00:04:44.520 there's a lot of areas where Adobe is used. 00:04:44.520 --> 00:04:47.390 Obviously a lot of designers, the creative professionals, 00:04:47.390 --> 00:04:48.600 et cetera, et cetera. 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:52.740 What is the lens that y'all take on education and education 00:04:52.740 --> 00:04:55.313 in the context of supporting teachers especially? 00:04:56.939 --> 00:04:59.650 - Yeah, education is very important 00:04:59.650 --> 00:05:01.990 from a couple of perspectives. 00:05:01.990 --> 00:05:06.850 First of all, we believe that all of us as humans 00:05:06.850 --> 00:05:08.860 are innately creative 00:05:08.860 --> 00:05:11.880 and giving everybody a voice is an important part 00:05:11.880 --> 00:05:14.010 of building self-worth, 00:05:14.010 --> 00:05:16.930 building great citizens in the world 00:05:16.930 --> 00:05:19.790 and therefore education is a conduit, 00:05:19.790 --> 00:05:24.360 is a very important vertical for us to get students access 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.840 to our products so that they can tell their stories. 00:05:27.840 --> 00:05:32.840 And we have so many infinite examples of the students 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:36.260 when they're able to put these stories together, 00:05:36.260 --> 00:05:38.240 put a voice to their ideas, 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:39.980 what it does to their self-confidence 00:05:39.980 --> 00:05:42.750 and what it does to student outcomes specifically. 00:05:42.750 --> 00:05:44.480 So, a big part of our focus 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.780 is getting the products with the hands of the students, 00:05:47.780 --> 00:05:51.880 making them work on platforms that students are on 00:05:51.880 --> 00:05:53.180 whether they're on the web, 00:05:53.180 --> 00:05:55.780 whether they're on mobile devices or they're in the lab, 00:05:55.780 --> 00:05:58.370 working in the lab. 00:05:58.370 --> 00:06:00.470 So, it's about making the products work here 00:06:00.470 --> 00:06:03.980 in these different places, making it affordable for schools. 00:06:03.980 --> 00:06:07.240 Adobe Spark is free for students to use. 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:11.950 Creative Cloud which is over a $600 a year product 00:06:11.950 --> 00:06:15.280 is just $5 a year for student in K-12. 00:06:15.280 --> 00:06:17.450 So, really it's about making the products work 00:06:17.450 --> 00:06:20.560 as well as making them accessible through pricing 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:23.750 but the second area Sal is about the teachers. 00:06:23.750 --> 00:06:25.650 And again, it's great to be here with you 00:06:25.650 --> 00:06:29.220 during teacher appreciation week announcing this partnership 00:06:29.220 --> 00:06:33.510 because teachers are aware where this all happens. 00:06:33.510 --> 00:06:37.700 They are the ones who sort of help lead the students 00:06:37.700 --> 00:06:42.260 through the learning process and making them ready 00:06:42.260 --> 00:06:44.040 to bring creativity into the classroom 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.970 is another really important piece of what Adobe does. 00:06:46.970 --> 00:06:50.370 We have a platform called Adobe Education Exchange, 00:06:50.370 --> 00:06:53.180 there's over a million teachers on that platform, 00:06:53.180 --> 00:06:55.530 there's sharing ideas with each other, 00:06:55.530 --> 00:06:56.750 there's project plans, 00:06:56.750 --> 00:06:59.310 there's lesson plans available for them, 00:06:59.310 --> 00:07:02.070 of how they can bring creativity into a Math class 00:07:02.070 --> 00:07:05.450 or into a science class or a Geography class. 00:07:05.450 --> 00:07:07.810 Because what that does is one, 00:07:07.810 --> 00:07:10.710 it makes learning more interesting. 00:07:10.710 --> 00:07:13.690 It engages students but most importantly, 00:07:13.690 --> 00:07:15.150 the teachers can assess 00:07:15.150 --> 00:07:17.493 what the student is actually comprehended and learned 00:07:17.493 --> 00:07:19.490 through what they create. 00:07:19.490 --> 00:07:21.400 So, education to us 00:07:21.400 --> 00:07:23.810 is about making both of those things possible 00:07:23.810 --> 00:07:28.810 which is putting the products in the hands of the students 00:07:29.130 --> 00:07:32.410 and preparing the teachers to teach creativity 00:07:32.410 --> 00:07:34.410 and bring creativity into the classroom. 00:07:35.320 --> 00:07:37.220 - And I definitely want to talk a lot more about this 00:07:37.220 --> 00:07:39.530 especially what both Adobe and Khan Academy 00:07:39.530 --> 00:07:40.363 hope to do together. 00:07:40.363 --> 00:07:41.196 But before we go there, 00:07:41.196 --> 00:07:44.530 I do wanna focus a little bit on your story. 00:07:44.530 --> 00:07:45.940 That's one of the interesting things 00:07:45.940 --> 00:07:47.270 about these conversations. 00:07:47.270 --> 00:07:48.103 I always love to learn 00:07:48.103 --> 00:07:50.260 how people got to where they're going. 00:07:50.260 --> 00:07:52.220 We have a lot of young people who are watching this, 00:07:52.220 --> 00:07:54.060 a lot of parents who are watching this. 00:07:54.060 --> 00:07:57.110 So, when you were young in elementary school, 00:07:57.110 --> 00:07:58.217 middle school, did you say, 00:07:58.217 --> 00:08:00.950 "I Mala Sharma I'm going to be a VP 00:08:00.950 --> 00:08:02.989 and GM of Adobe Creative Cloud." 00:08:02.989 --> 00:08:04.506 What did you think you were going to do? 00:08:04.506 --> 00:08:05.884 (laughing) 00:08:05.884 --> 00:08:07.520 - Oh my Gosh. 00:08:07.520 --> 00:08:08.760 Well, if you asked my mom, 00:08:08.760 --> 00:08:11.193 she probably thought I was up to no good. 00:08:12.060 --> 00:08:17.060 I was a very, very naughty student and was always the person 00:08:18.430 --> 00:08:20.400 who was trying to distract the teacher in the classroom 00:08:20.400 --> 00:08:23.263 and distract the students in the classroom. 00:08:23.263 --> 00:08:25.680 (indistinct) 00:08:27.370 --> 00:08:28.646 I'm sorry. 00:08:28.646 --> 00:08:30.840 - Do you remember what you did? 00:08:30.840 --> 00:08:31.833 - Oh my gosh. 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.231 I don't know if parents would appreciate this 00:08:36.231 --> 00:08:37.064 (chuckles) 00:08:37.064 --> 00:08:39.470 but I used to be the student who would sit at the back 00:08:39.470 --> 00:08:44.470 of the classroom and throw a little airplanes, 00:08:44.510 --> 00:08:45.600 this is what we did in India. 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.220 We made airplanes with, you know, paper 00:08:48.220 --> 00:08:51.050 and we threw it out in front of the classrooms, 00:08:51.050 --> 00:08:53.810 I would chew chalk and then throw chalk 00:08:53.810 --> 00:08:55.990 at different students, I was really bad. 00:08:55.990 --> 00:08:57.137 - Chew chalk, that's a new one. 00:08:57.137 --> 00:08:59.357 I didn't know that that's the thing that... 00:08:59.357 --> 00:09:01.070 (Mala laughing) 00:09:01.070 --> 00:09:02.140 - Oh my God. 00:09:02.140 --> 00:09:04.520 Yes, I was a very naughty student 00:09:04.520 --> 00:09:05.840 but at some point... 00:09:06.830 --> 00:09:07.920 Sorry. 00:09:07.920 --> 00:09:08.790 - No, no, go ahead. 00:09:08.790 --> 00:09:11.763 I was going to say it but it clearly evolved. 00:09:13.530 --> 00:09:15.160 But at some point... 00:09:15.160 --> 00:09:16.580 Please keep going. 00:09:16.580 --> 00:09:18.143 - Yes, at some point, 00:09:19.060 --> 00:09:24.060 I think I realized that it was important for me 00:09:24.620 --> 00:09:26.890 to pay attention to learning 00:09:26.890 --> 00:09:30.070 and I think my mother being a school teacher 00:09:30.070 --> 00:09:31.223 was part of that. 00:09:32.460 --> 00:09:36.883 And really, I think the way I'd sum it up, 00:09:38.820 --> 00:09:43.610 it's a sequence of events that I didn't expect what happened 00:09:43.610 --> 00:09:46.640 but happened but I think the learning that I had 00:09:46.640 --> 00:09:51.090 from my teachers, from my parents, from the elders around me 00:09:51.090 --> 00:09:55.350 was to be ready to embrace them and be prepared for them 00:09:55.350 --> 00:10:00.350 and be able to not just embrace them from the standpoint 00:10:00.830 --> 00:10:03.500 of accept what happened but embrace them 00:10:03.500 --> 00:10:04.913 and take them forward. 00:10:06.130 --> 00:10:09.830 There's been lots of ups and downs in my journey 00:10:09.830 --> 00:10:12.630 to get to here but what's been consistent 00:10:12.630 --> 00:10:17.630 is being confident, having a deep sense of self-worth 00:10:19.990 --> 00:10:21.840 and a deep sense of confidence 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:25.580 that if somebody presents something to me, I can embrace it 00:10:25.580 --> 00:10:27.270 and I think that comes from the learning. 00:10:27.270 --> 00:10:29.260 The learning and the teachers around me 00:10:29.260 --> 00:10:32.870 and all the examples that were around me 00:10:32.870 --> 00:10:34.830 that gave you that confidence. 00:10:34.830 --> 00:10:37.099 - Yeah, so, I mean, going back to your original. 00:10:37.099 --> 00:10:39.700 Your mother was a teacher 00:10:39.700 --> 00:10:41.720 and still, it sounds like at a young age 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:45.840 you were maybe not the most obedient obedient child 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:47.750 in at least in the, in the classroom. 00:10:47.750 --> 00:10:49.640 Do you remember when it kind of clicked in you? 00:10:49.640 --> 00:10:51.390 Was there a particular moment? 00:10:51.390 --> 00:10:52.780 Clearly your mother is a teacher 00:10:52.780 --> 00:10:54.040 who played a big role in your life 00:10:54.040 --> 00:10:56.020 if we're thinking about teacher appreciation week 00:10:56.020 --> 00:10:57.720 but were there moments in your education 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:59.370 where you started saying, "Wow, this is really interesting, 00:10:59.370 --> 00:11:00.490 I'm not passionate about this 00:11:00.490 --> 00:11:02.540 or this person is really invested in me." 00:11:03.910 --> 00:11:08.770 - Yeah, I think what my mom did for us 00:11:08.770 --> 00:11:12.850 was it was not just about what we learned in the classroom 00:11:12.850 --> 00:11:14.430 but she also encouraged us 00:11:14.430 --> 00:11:18.500 to do different kinds of learning 00:11:18.500 --> 00:11:20.323 so she put us into theater. 00:11:21.253 --> 00:11:24.240 I was on stage at an early stage, 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:27.703 I was learning Indian classical music. 00:11:29.029 --> 00:11:34.029 I was learning rowing and a variety of different experiences 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.620 that taught me consistently 00:11:36.620 --> 00:11:39.960 that then I practiced and when I learned from people 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.890 who knew more than me and were better than me 00:11:42.890 --> 00:11:44.723 and I observed what they did, 00:11:45.610 --> 00:11:47.560 that I was able to incorporate that learning 00:11:47.560 --> 00:11:49.170 into whatever that I was practicing 00:11:49.170 --> 00:11:51.810 and I think it was the extracurricular activities 00:11:53.010 --> 00:11:56.480 and the interest that those teachers and those mentors 00:11:58.865 --> 00:12:01.290 took in me that helped me get better 00:12:01.290 --> 00:12:02.450 and I was able to apply 00:12:02.450 --> 00:12:06.010 that into into the classroom as well. 00:12:06.010 --> 00:12:07.850 And I think from a teacher standpoint 00:12:07.850 --> 00:12:11.033 when it came to just regular studies, 00:12:12.290 --> 00:12:16.070 it was a biology teacher who I had in I think seventh grade. 00:12:16.070 --> 00:12:20.830 She really made learning incredibly interesting. 00:12:20.830 --> 00:12:24.510 And this is again many, many years back in India, 00:12:24.510 --> 00:12:27.540 in a government school where I was learning 00:12:27.540 --> 00:12:31.180 and we heard that the resources were limited 00:12:31.180 --> 00:12:35.023 but the teacher made it interesting by making us take walks 00:12:35.023 --> 00:12:37.390 helping students get together in groups 00:12:37.390 --> 00:12:40.190 and have conversations about the different plants we saw, 00:12:40.190 --> 00:12:45.190 the different insects we saw bringing art by having us draw 00:12:47.070 --> 00:12:48.420 what we were seeing. 00:12:48.420 --> 00:12:51.550 And I think all of that and the interest that she took 00:12:51.550 --> 00:12:56.520 in making it fun and making it non monotonous 00:12:56.520 --> 00:12:59.900 and surprising is what engaged me and helped me 00:12:59.900 --> 00:13:02.940 get more interested in learning. 00:13:02.940 --> 00:13:05.000 And then when I started seeing the results 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:08.310 of what I was doing, I think it got me most serious 00:13:08.310 --> 00:13:10.303 about continuing to do my studies. 00:13:11.350 --> 00:13:12.540 - And I'm always curious 00:13:12.540 --> 00:13:15.450 because when I remember when I was especially in high school 00:13:15.450 --> 00:13:18.810 and even in college, you see people whose careers, 00:13:18.810 --> 00:13:20.540 their mid-career or they've kind of gotten 00:13:20.540 --> 00:13:23.350 to impressive places, what is the path? 00:13:23.350 --> 00:13:24.390 How did they figure that out? 00:13:24.390 --> 00:13:26.270 Did they know what they were doing? 00:13:26.270 --> 00:13:28.900 I clearly didn't know what I was doing, 00:13:28.900 --> 00:13:30.730 what did you think you were going to do? 00:13:30.730 --> 00:13:32.540 When did you kind of find your direction? 00:13:32.540 --> 00:13:34.300 Did you know you're going to go into industry, 00:13:34.300 --> 00:13:35.133 go into marketing, 00:13:35.133 --> 00:13:35.987 did you think you were going to do something else? 00:13:35.987 --> 00:13:37.913 And when did you figure that out? 00:13:39.400 --> 00:13:41.540 - Yeah, so when I was in school, 00:13:41.540 --> 00:13:43.970 as I said, I was in theater, 00:13:43.970 --> 00:13:48.970 my first dream was to actually take acting professionally. 00:13:50.760 --> 00:13:54.280 And I was in a theater through school, through college 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.030 but then my parents didn't think that was a good choice. 00:13:58.030 --> 00:14:01.160 My next choice was to join the Indian Navy 00:14:01.160 --> 00:14:06.160 because my father is a war hero and I really admired him. 00:14:06.258 --> 00:14:07.091 And I was like, 00:14:07.091 --> 00:14:11.887 "I wanna go represent my country and be patriotic." 00:14:12.930 --> 00:14:15.630 He then discouraged me from doing that because at that time 00:14:15.630 --> 00:14:18.780 women didn't get great opportunities in the Indian Navy. 00:14:18.780 --> 00:14:21.180 We were typically stuck behind the desk 00:14:21.180 --> 00:14:24.440 as opposed to what I wanted to do, was be on the front. 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.210 So, that's what I wanted to do. 00:14:27.210 --> 00:14:31.570 And when neither of those worked out at that time at my age 00:14:31.570 --> 00:14:32.970 of my batch at the time, 00:14:32.970 --> 00:14:34.810 everybody was studying to go abroad 00:14:36.670 --> 00:14:38.700 and I was like, "No, I don't want to go abroad, 00:14:38.700 --> 00:14:41.020 I wanna work for my country." 00:14:41.020 --> 00:14:44.260 And I decided to do my master's in business 00:14:44.260 --> 00:14:45.900 because I didn't want to do science 00:14:45.900 --> 00:14:47.780 because it looked like science was too hard 00:14:47.780 --> 00:14:49.520 and people studied too much. 00:14:49.520 --> 00:14:53.420 So, I kind of made the out of convenience really 00:14:53.420 --> 00:14:55.270 and ended up doing my MBA. 00:14:55.270 --> 00:14:58.360 And then after that life just happened. 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:03.360 I was I think ultimately Sal if I were to look back 00:15:03.410 --> 00:15:08.410 on what's consistent is what you learn not just in school 00:15:10.340 --> 00:15:12.743 but what values get instilled in you. 00:15:13.590 --> 00:15:16.860 And I think that's helped me through and sort of guided me 00:15:16.860 --> 00:15:20.650 through all the ups and downs 00:15:20.650 --> 00:15:22.450 and I've had plenty of downs as well 00:15:23.310 --> 00:15:27.460 is really sort of hanging onto the values that matter 00:15:29.020 --> 00:15:33.430 and for me, it's about doing what's right, not, what's good. 00:15:33.430 --> 00:15:38.110 It's about being consistent in thought, word and action 00:15:38.110 --> 00:15:40.780 and it's those kinds of values that see you through 00:15:40.780 --> 00:15:41.970 and I think it's so important. 00:15:41.970 --> 00:15:45.920 Again, teachers, parents play such an important role 00:15:45.920 --> 00:15:49.830 in not just teaching us the studies that we'd have to do 00:15:49.830 --> 00:15:52.570 but also demonstrating and being the examples 00:15:52.570 --> 00:15:54.363 for us when it comes to values. 00:15:55.237 --> 00:15:57.940 - Now I'm curious, I did not know this background of yours 00:15:57.940 --> 00:15:59.940 that you were essentially the theater kid 00:15:59.940 --> 00:16:02.914 turned a corporate leader. 00:16:02.914 --> 00:16:04.650 (Mala laughing) 00:16:04.650 --> 00:16:07.430 - It's funny, a lot of folks, when I was in college, 00:16:07.430 --> 00:16:10.750 I took a theater class just on a whim 00:16:10.750 --> 00:16:12.350 just thinking it would be a nice change of pace 00:16:12.350 --> 00:16:13.860 and I thought it was transformational 00:16:13.860 --> 00:16:15.190 and when I really think about it, 00:16:15.190 --> 00:16:18.380 it affects how I even interact with people, 00:16:18.380 --> 00:16:21.453 how I communicate, how aware I am of of my own being, 00:16:23.100 --> 00:16:24.450 what was the effect of theater 00:16:24.450 --> 00:16:26.470 and obviously we're here to talk about creativity. 00:16:26.470 --> 00:16:28.400 There's a lot of creativity in theater, 00:16:28.400 --> 00:16:33.310 how has that background given you some superpowers in it? 00:16:33.310 --> 00:16:36.360 Most of the folks are corporate leaders in Silicon Valley 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.340 especially if were stereotypically say, 00:16:38.340 --> 00:16:39.360 coming from South Asia, 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.810 they were probably engineering majors, 00:16:41.810 --> 00:16:44.040 come out here and start their life as a software engineer 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:45.170 and then move up through management 00:16:45.170 --> 00:16:46.730 but you have a very, very different background. 00:16:46.730 --> 00:16:48.523 How has that either helped or hurt you? 00:16:50.620 --> 00:16:52.190 - I think the way it's helped me, 00:16:52.190 --> 00:16:55.280 there's a couple of things that come to mind. 00:16:55.280 --> 00:17:00.280 One is the recognition that you alone 00:17:00.520 --> 00:17:03.300 are not what makes that play happen. 00:17:03.300 --> 00:17:05.780 There's you, there's the person who pulls the curtain, 00:17:05.780 --> 00:17:09.540 there's the light, there's the person behind the camera, 00:17:09.540 --> 00:17:11.590 there's a team that's involved 00:17:11.590 --> 00:17:16.123 and everybody has to work in sync. 00:17:17.370 --> 00:17:20.500 The production is great for the audience 00:17:20.500 --> 00:17:25.500 only when everybody is operating together on time, on cue 00:17:26.100 --> 00:17:30.410 and all of that takes an incredible amount of practice 00:17:30.410 --> 00:17:32.830 and incredible amount of collaboration 00:17:33.780 --> 00:17:35.310 and incredible clarity 00:17:35.310 --> 00:17:38.010 on what the outcome of the play needs to be. 00:17:38.010 --> 00:17:40.490 And that's what work is about. 00:17:40.490 --> 00:17:42.820 The second thing that I learned is improvisation 00:17:42.820 --> 00:17:46.370 because oftentimes the person you're working with, 00:17:46.370 --> 00:17:49.530 or excuse me, you might be with, 00:17:49.530 --> 00:17:50.720 they might forget that dialogue. 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:52.500 You might forget your dialogue 00:17:52.500 --> 00:17:56.930 and being able to in the moment sort of fill the gaps 00:17:56.930 --> 00:17:59.030 and let the story continue. 00:17:59.030 --> 00:18:02.230 And the third area, I think is just the confidence, right 00:18:02.230 --> 00:18:06.820 of being in front of an audience 00:18:06.820 --> 00:18:09.260 and that's what business is about. 00:18:09.260 --> 00:18:13.070 Businesses is about collaboration, it's about innovating, 00:18:13.070 --> 00:18:16.980 it's about creative ideas and it's about selling those ideas 00:18:16.980 --> 00:18:20.890 confidently through storytelling. 00:18:20.890 --> 00:18:23.890 And so, I do think that it's been something that's helped me 00:18:23.890 --> 00:18:26.350 and including my fighter spirit, 00:18:26.350 --> 00:18:29.790 all right, that's where risk-taking and planning 00:18:29.790 --> 00:18:33.680 I think was an important thing that I really admired 00:18:34.771 --> 00:18:36.570 about what my dad did 00:18:36.570 --> 00:18:39.470 and that's something I found I've incorporated into my work 00:18:39.470 --> 00:18:42.080 which is really being thoughtful 00:18:42.080 --> 00:18:46.350 about what the strategy for winning needs to be, 00:18:46.350 --> 00:18:48.150 what the operational efficiency 00:18:48.150 --> 00:18:50.380 and operational cadence needs to be. 00:18:50.380 --> 00:18:55.380 All of those skills that you need in business. 00:18:57.130 --> 00:18:58.820 - I've never made the connection before 00:18:58.820 --> 00:19:01.620 but hearing you describe it, you're so right. 00:19:01.620 --> 00:19:03.360 I feel like theater should be part 00:19:03.360 --> 00:19:05.650 of any business program now because you're absolutely right. 00:19:05.650 --> 00:19:06.660 It's a clear goal, 00:19:06.660 --> 00:19:08.660 - Yeah. - Lot of coordination 00:19:08.660 --> 00:19:11.870 but as soon as you're out there, some new stuff might happen 00:19:11.870 --> 00:19:13.980 and you're going to have to improvise 00:19:13.980 --> 00:19:18.980 and it reminds me I actually was for half a year in college 00:19:19.360 --> 00:19:21.890 on the improv comedy troupe. 00:19:21.890 --> 00:19:22.996 And we used to have to go to college 00:19:22.996 --> 00:19:23.829 (indistinct) 00:19:23.829 --> 00:19:26.190 and you just go on stage with no planning 00:19:26.190 --> 00:19:28.670 and people throw out words and scenarios 00:19:28.670 --> 00:19:31.670 and I have never gone through more stressful thing 00:19:31.670 --> 00:19:35.340 in my life than being on an improv comedy team 00:19:35.340 --> 00:19:37.477 but also, you want you to go through that and you're like, 00:19:37.477 --> 00:19:39.021 "well, nothing else in life" 00:19:39.021 --> 00:19:41.313 (indistinct) 00:19:41.313 --> 00:19:42.890 I've never fully drawn the prowls. 00:19:42.890 --> 00:19:45.235 I'm gonna make sure my kids get a little bit more drama 00:19:45.235 --> 00:19:46.630 (Mala chuckles) 00:19:46.630 --> 00:19:47.660 organized drama, 00:19:47.660 --> 00:19:51.510 I think unorganized drama for them. 00:19:51.510 --> 00:19:54.397 For unorganized in their lives. 00:19:54.397 --> 00:19:56.580 Well, let's put the gears a little bit, 00:19:56.580 --> 00:19:59.030 let's let's talk about this partnership 00:19:59.030 --> 00:20:00.720 that obviously I'm very excited about it 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:02.340 but I'd love to hear from your point of view, 00:20:02.340 --> 00:20:05.513 what excites you, or I'd love to hear in your own words, 00:20:07.060 --> 00:20:08.237 what is the motivation for partnering with Khan Academy 00:20:08.237 --> 00:20:11.163 and what do you hope we're able to do together? 00:20:12.420 --> 00:20:14.896 - Yeah, So this is an amazing opportunity. 00:20:14.896 --> 00:20:17.250 And Sal, we are so proud and honored 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:21.980 to be the creativity partner for Khan Academy. 00:20:21.980 --> 00:20:22.830 As I said earlier, 00:20:22.830 --> 00:20:27.360 for Adobe, enabling creativity for everyone is our mission. 00:20:27.360 --> 00:20:30.550 We believe every human is innately creative 00:20:30.550 --> 00:20:33.700 and giving them a voice is a part of our mission 00:20:33.700 --> 00:20:38.700 and the fact that your platform serves many millions, 00:20:39.450 --> 00:20:43.788 I believe it's over a hundred million students globally 00:20:43.788 --> 00:20:48.250 and the focus of your work has been on in the STEM area. 00:20:48.250 --> 00:20:49.443 What I'm excited about, 00:20:49.443 --> 00:20:53.460 what Adobe is excited about is giving all of these kids 00:20:54.620 --> 00:20:57.120 through the classroom access to tools 00:20:57.120 --> 00:20:59.310 where they can express themselves creatively 00:20:59.310 --> 00:21:01.410 because what we've seen happen Sal 00:21:01.410 --> 00:21:05.130 and there's many, many examples including a personal example 00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:08.120 I had when I was volunteering in India. 00:21:08.120 --> 00:21:11.160 We teach for India where kids who'd never seen technology, 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.000 had never interacted with Adobe tools, 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:15.770 when they were given access to this, 00:21:15.770 --> 00:21:17.310 what it changed for them 00:21:17.310 --> 00:21:20.240 in terms of not just the learning experience 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:24.455 but what it did for them 00:21:24.455 --> 00:21:25.563 (indistinct) 00:21:25.563 --> 00:21:28.590 in confidence is what we are excited about 00:21:28.590 --> 00:21:33.320 and it's not just sort of the storytelling aspect of it. 00:21:33.320 --> 00:21:37.370 We know that future hiring managers, 00:21:37.370 --> 00:21:39.828 they value creativity in employees. 00:21:39.828 --> 00:21:43.770 We know that the World Economic Forum, Bloomberg, LinkedIn 00:21:43.770 --> 00:21:46.380 their research has it that creativity is a skill 00:21:46.380 --> 00:21:48.810 that most hiring managers are looking for. 00:21:48.810 --> 00:21:51.690 So, the ramifications of bringing creativity 00:21:51.690 --> 00:21:54.430 to your platform and the lives that can impact 00:21:54.430 --> 00:21:57.050 is incredibly thrilling and so important 00:21:57.050 --> 00:21:59.340 especially in today's time 00:21:59.340 --> 00:22:04.340 where the entire education experience has been upended 00:22:04.500 --> 00:22:05.543 because of COVID. 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:08.650 - No, I couldn't agree with you more. 00:22:08.650 --> 00:22:11.443 From my point of view, what we Khan Academy is missing 00:22:11.443 --> 00:22:13.660 as a not-for-profit is free world-class education 00:22:13.660 --> 00:22:14.493 for anyone anywhere 00:22:14.493 --> 00:22:16.740 and education has a lot of dimensions to it. 00:22:16.740 --> 00:22:18.150 There's the cognitive development of it, 00:22:18.150 --> 00:22:19.680 there's the socialization element of it, 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:21.520 there's the credentialing side of it 00:22:21.520 --> 00:22:23.880 but even if you talk about the cognitive side of it, 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:27.440 a lot of folks listening Bloom's cognitive taxonomy, 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:29.230 it's usually drawn as a pyramid 00:22:29.230 --> 00:22:31.100 where the base is remembering, 00:22:31.100 --> 00:22:33.510 it's the most rote type of work to do 00:22:33.510 --> 00:22:35.320 then you go into skills procedures, 00:22:35.320 --> 00:22:37.940 and then as you get higher up the pyramid, 00:22:37.940 --> 00:22:39.590 you're getting into synthesis application 00:22:39.590 --> 00:22:41.590 at the very top as create. 00:22:41.590 --> 00:22:46.060 And I'm a big believer that you need the whole pyramid 00:22:46.060 --> 00:22:48.790 that if you just do one part without the other, 00:22:48.790 --> 00:22:50.170 you're selling yourself short 00:22:50.170 --> 00:22:52.760 but the reason why I believe bloom started up as a pyramid 00:22:52.760 --> 00:22:55.860 is that they do too many degrees build on each other 00:22:55.860 --> 00:22:57.640 not always, but many times build 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:00.270 and Khan Academy has historically focused 00:23:00.270 --> 00:23:04.430 on I would say that core foundational piece of the pyramid, 00:23:04.430 --> 00:23:07.490 more of the skill fluency, et cetera 00:23:07.490 --> 00:23:10.340 but there's always a desire for real education. 00:23:10.340 --> 00:23:12.970 We got to make sure kids get the top of the pyramid as well. 00:23:12.970 --> 00:23:15.630 And so for us to be able to be so complimentary 00:23:15.630 --> 00:23:17.440 where the students and teachers 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.010 who are already leveraging Khan Academy 00:23:19.010 --> 00:23:22.410 and hopefully many more to make sure they have fluency 00:23:22.410 --> 00:23:24.960 in their mathematics and their sciences 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:29.020 had that content knowledge also have world-class tools 00:23:29.020 --> 00:23:30.690 to apply that in really thoughtful ways 00:23:30.690 --> 00:23:32.580 and that they compliment each other. 00:23:32.580 --> 00:23:34.740 So, this is this announcement we're making this week. 00:23:34.740 --> 00:23:37.260 It's very exciting and actually I'll cue this video 00:23:37.260 --> 00:23:40.750 that I think we've put together that describes the program 00:23:40.750 --> 00:23:44.420 and I think we can comment on it as it's playing as well. 00:23:44.420 --> 00:23:47.530 - [Presenter] Teach creativity with Adobe and Khan Academy, 00:23:47.530 --> 00:23:51.190 a powerful new partnership bringing together creative tools 00:23:51.190 --> 00:23:54.490 and content knowledge to empower thousands of teachers 00:23:54.490 --> 00:23:57.270 and millions of students worldwide. 00:23:57.270 --> 00:23:58.360 - It's a beautiful blend 00:23:58.360 --> 00:24:00.900 of informative and engaging content. 00:24:00.900 --> 00:24:02.690 - [Presenter] Get started today by registering 00:24:02.690 --> 00:24:06.160 for our brand new self paced course available for free 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:08.210 on the Adobe education exchange. 00:24:08.210 --> 00:24:10.600 Take this course and earn up to 20 hours 00:24:10.600 --> 00:24:12.300 of professional development credit 00:24:12.300 --> 00:24:15.290 and maybe even a visit from Sal Khan himself, 00:24:15.290 --> 00:24:16.760 founder of Khan Academy. 00:24:16.760 --> 00:24:19.330 Register by May 17th and share a tweet 00:24:19.330 --> 00:24:21.460 tagging an educator who inspires you 00:24:21.460 --> 00:24:22.880 with the #AdobeKhanCreativity 00:24:24.060 --> 00:24:26.670 for the chance to win an Adobe creativity kit. 00:24:26.670 --> 00:24:30.040 You want to surprise your students with a voice Khan Academy 00:24:30.040 --> 00:24:34.400 is best known for, yes, we are talking about a virtual visit 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.357 to your classroom from Sal Khan. 00:24:36.357 --> 00:24:38.550 (indistinct) 00:24:38.550 --> 00:24:42.090 Or plan to infuse creativity into your classes. 00:24:42.090 --> 00:24:45.430 Submit your entry by May 17th and you could win one 00:24:45.430 --> 00:24:48.500 of five virtual classroom visits from Sal Khan. 00:24:48.500 --> 00:24:51.100 Embrace creativity in powerful new ways 00:24:51.100 --> 00:24:53.020 with Adobe and Khan Academy. 00:24:53.020 --> 00:24:55.770 Sign up to the course and learn how to get started now. 00:24:57.571 --> 00:24:59.988 (indistinct) 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:05.760 - So much fun. 00:25:05.760 --> 00:25:07.270 So, the course that we've designed, 00:25:07.270 --> 00:25:11.880 it's specifically designed for Khan teachers. 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:16.150 We built this along with your team Sal 00:25:16.150 --> 00:25:19.550 and the courses are specifically designed to be used 00:25:19.550 --> 00:25:22.650 like creativity and math, creativity and social studies, 00:25:22.650 --> 00:25:24.310 creativity and science 00:25:25.250 --> 00:25:29.610 and I know recently there's a young woman 00:25:29.610 --> 00:25:32.340 called Hillary Andeles who was part 00:25:32.340 --> 00:25:35.223 of your I think it's called a junior. 00:25:37.454 --> 00:25:38.738 - Breakthrough challenge, yeah? 00:25:38.738 --> 00:25:39.873 - Yeah, thank you. 00:25:41.690 --> 00:25:45.333 And she's somebody Adobe is very familiar with. 00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:48.110 We got to know her a few years ago 00:25:48.110 --> 00:25:50.220 when she was in her teens. 00:25:50.220 --> 00:25:54.600 And as you know, she is, you know a STEM enthusiast 00:25:54.600 --> 00:25:58.930 and she had a classmate who was very creative 00:25:58.930 --> 00:26:01.087 and she decided as a as a young teen that, 00:26:01.087 --> 00:26:02.930 "Why can't I be creative?" 00:26:02.930 --> 00:26:05.720 And she started teaching herself Photoshop and illustrator 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:10.280 just for fun and unfortunately while she was a little kid, 00:26:10.280 --> 00:26:14.420 she lived in Philippines, there was this really big typhoon 00:26:14.420 --> 00:26:16.290 that hit Philippines in her town. 00:26:16.290 --> 00:26:17.540 It was called typhoon Yolanda 00:26:17.540 --> 00:26:19.400 and many people lost their lives 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.390 and there was a lot of damage. 00:26:21.390 --> 00:26:22.540 And once she realized 00:26:22.540 --> 00:26:24.540 that the communication that this put together 00:26:24.540 --> 00:26:26.710 to help people understand what the impact 00:26:26.710 --> 00:26:30.250 of the typhoon would be, was just not impactful enough 00:26:30.250 --> 00:26:32.620 and that's when she made a commitment to herself 00:26:32.620 --> 00:26:34.280 and has done some amazing work 00:26:34.280 --> 00:26:38.650 to really take science concepts 00:26:38.650 --> 00:26:41.160 and make them more accessible and understandable 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:42.800 through creative communication 00:26:42.800 --> 00:26:45.507 and she's done this amazing work, created this amazing video 00:26:45.507 --> 00:26:49.260 and then of course she got awarded the prize to the- 00:26:49.260 --> 00:26:51.407 - Exactly what number is this? 00:26:51.407 --> 00:26:52.520 - And she goes, yeah. 00:26:52.520 --> 00:26:55.400 - She it says it's six, she says it's nine. 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.290 - So who's right? - Yeah, I know. 00:26:58.177 --> 00:27:02.590 - And she's an amazing woman and now she's an MIT, 00:27:02.590 --> 00:27:03.670 thanks to the scholarship 00:27:03.670 --> 00:27:06.420 she got and- - Added from 00:27:06.420 --> 00:27:07.502 different reference frame. 00:27:07.502 --> 00:27:08.335 Now, what exactly are... 00:27:08.335 --> 00:27:09.210 (faintly speaking) 00:27:09.210 --> 00:27:11.690 - Yeah, I think we can stop the video. 00:27:11.690 --> 00:27:14.900 - Yeah, she is so inspiring but this is a great example 00:27:14.900 --> 00:27:17.310 and I hope that the teachers on your platform 00:27:18.360 --> 00:27:21.640 can take advantage of these lessons, plans. 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:25.000 There's hundreds of lessons, plans, there's projects, 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:28.480 there's tests that they can be bringing into the classroom 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:33.480 to inspire these kids to communicate and tell these stories 00:27:33.600 --> 00:27:36.390 in an impactful way making these concepts 00:27:36.390 --> 00:27:40.220 that can sometimes seem obtuse, more accessible 00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:41.233 and have an impact. 00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:43.120 - Now, Hillary is great. 00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:45.410 I mean, all the Breakthrough Junior Challenge winners. 00:27:45.410 --> 00:27:48.140 And it's a very impressive set of... 00:27:48.140 --> 00:27:50.682 They get $250,000 for college, 00:27:50.682 --> 00:27:53.570 - No. - Their teacher gets $50,000 00:27:53.570 --> 00:27:56.930 and then they get a I think a 50 or $100,000 science lab 00:27:56.930 --> 00:27:59.250 for the school, it's done by the breakthrough prizes 00:27:59.250 --> 00:28:01.070 and it's really a brainchild of Yuri Milner 00:28:01.070 --> 00:28:03.750 and several other folks out here in Silicon Valley. 00:28:03.750 --> 00:28:05.194 But yeah, it's incredible. 00:28:05.194 --> 00:28:07.690 I'm privileged to be part of the process 00:28:07.690 --> 00:28:10.260 as one of the judges and obviously we get the word out 00:28:10.260 --> 00:28:12.173 to the broader Khan Academy community. 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:14.710 And to your point, 00:28:14.710 --> 00:28:18.170 Hilary shows that a lot of people think somehow 00:28:18.170 --> 00:28:20.633 that that STEM and creativity don't go together 00:28:20.633 --> 00:28:23.200 and in fact it's the exact opposite. 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.190 I always say, the factoring of polynomial, 00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:29.500 those are giving you the toolkit 00:28:29.500 --> 00:28:32.850 so that you can unlock your creativity in STEM. 00:28:32.850 --> 00:28:35.980 That's like saying that learning to mix paint is painting. 00:28:35.980 --> 00:28:40.060 No, that unlocks your capability to then become a painter. 00:28:40.060 --> 00:28:43.530 And you see someone like Hillary shows that in spades 00:28:43.530 --> 00:28:45.733 and shows the importance of this type of work. 00:28:46.650 --> 00:28:47.900 - Absolutely, absolutely. 00:28:49.050 --> 00:28:54.020 I'm super excited about what your teachers can make possible 00:28:54.020 --> 00:28:54.913 for the kids. 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.610 - Yeah, well, Mala, all these conversations go much faster 00:28:59.610 --> 00:29:02.040 than I ever expect. 00:29:02.040 --> 00:29:03.750 Time flies when you're having fun. 00:29:03.750 --> 00:29:06.760 But I just wanted to first of all thank you 00:29:06.760 --> 00:29:08.100 for sharing your story with us. 00:29:08.100 --> 00:29:09.380 Thank you for this partnership 00:29:09.380 --> 00:29:11.070 between Adobe and Khan Academy. 00:29:11.070 --> 00:29:13.710 I really do think it's going to unlock 00:29:13.710 --> 00:29:17.960 hopefully many millions of Hilary Andeles around the world 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.690 to benefit all of us and be just more creative in the world 00:29:21.690 --> 00:29:23.920 which I think just makes the world more interesting. 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.190 Any final thoughts for all of the parents 00:29:27.190 --> 00:29:29.253 and students and teachers listening? 00:29:30.760 --> 00:29:35.760 - I want to say let your kids express themselves 00:29:38.230 --> 00:29:40.650 in the way that they want to 00:29:40.650 --> 00:29:43.800 and know that the tools are just a means 00:29:43.800 --> 00:29:48.800 to get their ideas out and creativity is equally important 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.610 as the science and the math that they're learning 00:29:54.610 --> 00:29:55.910 because that ultimately 00:29:55.910 --> 00:29:57.780 is how they will be able to have impact. 00:29:57.780 --> 00:30:01.330 Is by bringing their ideas out into the world, 00:30:01.330 --> 00:30:04.850 sharing them with others and having impact. 00:30:04.850 --> 00:30:05.717 So, thank you. 00:30:06.690 --> 00:30:08.360 - Love that, thank you so much Mala 00:30:08.360 --> 00:30:09.870 and I couldn't agree with you more. 00:30:09.870 --> 00:30:12.090 If you don't have that creativity side, 00:30:12.090 --> 00:30:15.030 then really all of the skill level 00:30:15.030 --> 00:30:16.960 is to some degree all for not. 00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.390 It's all it everything it needs to be in service 00:30:19.390 --> 00:30:21.530 to creativity and we're so excited about this partnership. 00:30:21.530 --> 00:30:22.930 Thank you so much. 00:30:22.930 --> 00:30:24.930 - Thank you, thank you, it's a pleasure. 00:30:26.020 --> 00:30:27.900 And thanks for having me. - Well, thanks everyone. 00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:29.010 No, no, it's been a pleasure. 00:30:29.010 --> 00:30:30.670 Thanks everyone for joining today. 00:30:30.670 --> 00:30:32.460 We're very excited about this partnership 00:30:32.460 --> 00:30:35.840 with Khan Academy and Adobe around creativity. 00:30:35.840 --> 00:30:38.650 Parents, students, teachers, you can all check out the site 00:30:38.650 --> 00:30:41.500 that we're doing on the creativity cloud. 00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:44.580 I'm sure if you do a Google search for Khan Academy, 00:30:44.580 --> 00:30:46.430 Adobe and the Creative Cloud, 00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:49.230 I'm sure you will find all of these resources 00:30:49.230 --> 00:30:51.700 and we look forward to continuing to go on this journey 00:30:51.700 --> 00:30:52.690 of learning with you. 00:30:52.690 --> 00:30:53.523 Thanks everyone. 00:31:06.836 --> 00:31:08.753 (beep)