[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Christina] The most important thing\Nthat I try to pass on Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the sense that economics\Nis an empirical field, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then if you get\Nnew empirical evidence, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to have\Nto change the way Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you think about the economy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think being open to that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the most important thing\Nfor a young economist to know. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Economists -- not a group Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a lot of Marys,\NNatashas or Juanitas, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's caused\Na lot of controversy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, what's often overlooked\Nare the actual female economists Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are pushing economics forward Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by addressing real-world issues. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to Women in Economics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,♪ [music] ♪ Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I grew up in a family Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where public policy\Nwas discussed a lot. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was planning to be a lawyer, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I was going to major\Nin Government. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as part of the Government\Nmajor at my college, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had to take\Na year of Economics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was about three weeks in,\Nand I was hooked, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the government major's gone,\Nthe lawyer's gone, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in an Economist. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christina Romer\Nis a macro economic historian. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She takes the tools\Nof modern economics, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statistics, and data Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and applies them\Nto historical questions. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Narrator] Christy's researcher\Nagenda throughout her career Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has focused\Non a course set of topics Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about economic fluctuations\Nand business cycles. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's been asking and answering Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fascinating questions\Nabout our economy, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,starting with her dissertation\Nas a graduate student at MIT. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There, she changed\Nher understanding Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how the economy\Nhas grown over time. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the questions\Nthat came to me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were about monetary policy\Nand business cycles Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Great Depression. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Narrator] It was widely believed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that government policies led to\Nless fluctuations and unemployment Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after World War II. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, the data before\NWorld War II was unreliable. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Nancy] But Christy came up\Nwith the ingenious insight Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that while you couldn't clean up\Nthe historical data, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could fuzzy up\Nthe more modern data, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's exactly what she did. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when she did it, lo and behold, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these differences\Nbasically collapsed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Narrator] Amazingly,\Nif she applied Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the old techniques to the new data, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pose WOrld War II economy Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked just as volatile\Nas the pre-World War economy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This contradicted the consensus Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the role of government\Nstabilization policies. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her research rattled\Nthe economic community. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It made a splash. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember one of the prominent\Neconomist MIT, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his first reaction was, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, I'd be very upset\Nabout this if I believed it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm not going to believe it." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Throughout her academic career, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christine continued to challenge Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her understanding\Nof the Great Depression. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As just one example,\Nmost economists believed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Great Depression ended Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of higher\Ngovernment spending Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and investment in public works. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She showed that the impact\Nof those policies Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were relatively small compared to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the monetary policy\Nchanges taking place. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [ ] Starting as soon as Roosevelt\Ntook the US off the gold standard Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he took office in 1933, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the next decade, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's just an enormous increase\Nin money supply. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What he showed was that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is what caused\Nthe very rapid growth that we had. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Narrator] Christina's research\Nhas often focused on the effect Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economic events have\Non people's everyday lives. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [ ] It's tough to manage to have\Nnew ideas on the same thing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again and again and again. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the remarkable things Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about Christy and David's\Nresearch program Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that they have done that\Nvery successfully. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Narrator] Over 35 years, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christina has done\Nmeticulous research, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frequently, with her collaborator\Nand husband, David Romer. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [David] We'll have her paper,\Nand I think it's almost done. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've worked really hard on it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and each do one last read. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says, "You know,\NI think there's a logical tension Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between where we end up\Nin Section 4b Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we set out\Nwhat we're going to do in Section 2a. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm thinking, "Oh,\Nno one's going to notice." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we spend weeks more\Non the paper because she's right. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the paper gets much better. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [ ] One of the remarkable\Nthings about her work Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the coherence that spans\Nliterally her graduate school days Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and her work on her dissertation, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and connects up to some\Nof her most recent work Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on thinking about\Nways of identifying Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turning points in the economy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Narrator] Christina's work\Nwould be put to the test Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during the devasting crash of 2008, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the US economy\Nwas in free fall. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Christina] We often\Ndescribe the economy Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as at the edge of a cliff. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the truth is, we're not only\Nat the edge of a cliff, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were headed down. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Financial markets were plunging, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the risk of contagion\Nfrom the US to the global economy Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was v ery real. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [ ] Even people who'd see a lot Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were really worried\Nabout what was happening. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just as the nation was turning\Nto President-elect Obama Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to confront the economic crisis, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a mysterious email\Nshowed up in Christina'a inbox Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the subject line:\N"Obama Transition." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [ ] And I will take a little bit of credit here Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Christina was just about to delete it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, "Why don't you at least google fitst." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she discovered that he was the head of the economic side of the transition. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Obama administration wanted to meet with Christina as soon as possible. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [ ] On the next day, she was on a plane to Chicago to meet with the President-elect. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Narrator] Christina was asked to chair the Council of Economic Advisers. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The council wa sset up to bring academics into the policy-making process Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make recommendations to the President. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Christina] I was taking to Rahm Emanuel, and I said, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So tell me again, how did I get this job?" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "You were an expert on the Great Depression, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we thought we might need one." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Janet] She's tried to understand what caused the Depression, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what ended the Depression, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what role monitoring and fiscal policy oculd play Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no one could be better positioned to know what the right strategy woulf be. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [CHristina] We were talking to bankers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were talking to employers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we were talking to the people that where collecting the statistics. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Marrator] Christina'a research revealed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the economy was even more of a perilous position Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than previously thgoutt. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SHe got on the phone with Obama to give him the bad news. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Christina] Saying, you going, this is terrible. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've lost three-quarters of a million jobs. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just going on like this, and finally he stops me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "Christy, it's not your fault... yet." Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [ ] The challenge that CHristy and her team members on the Economic Advisory Team confronted Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was how large a stimulus the US economy needed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to right the ship Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and trying to calibrate that depended critically on the estimates Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of how much bang for the buck you get Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you use fiscal policy as a tool Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to then inflate the economy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Marrator} CHristina helped design a fiscal package Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that she thought was necessary to get the economy moving. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [Gabriel] The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a piece of legislation that was signed in February of 2009, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was a combination of direct government spending, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so think of repairing highways, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transfers to State governments, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,transfers to individuals and tax cuts. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the rationale for it was for the time when households were spending less Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and busniesses were spending less -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's a time when it's appropriate for government to spend a little more Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fill in that gap. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The recessions leave long scars, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people who lose their jobs during recession Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're unemployed for a while -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even ten years later, often are earning less Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than they were before the recession occurred. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So by making the case, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both in acaedemic research, and then as a policymaker, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the government could do more to mitigate recessions Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that really has an impact probably hundreds of thousands of people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kept their jobs during the Great Recession Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because hse had become an expert on the behavior of the economy, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the effects of fiscal policy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- [ ] And she was realy passionate about the role that she played Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after the financial crisis and the Great Recession