1 00:00:07,993 --> 00:00:10,653 Hello everyone. It's great to be here. 2 00:00:10,653 --> 00:00:12,443 You know, great to be at the stage of my old auditorium, 3 00:00:12,443 --> 00:00:15,315 my school and, you know, 4 00:00:15,315 --> 00:00:18,713 what an honor it is to be on this stage at TEDx. 5 00:00:18,713 --> 00:00:21,926 And, like everyone else here, I'm here. 6 00:00:21,926 --> 00:00:26,138 I'm a story teller, some people call me an artist. 7 00:00:26,138 --> 00:00:28,276 And I'm a story teller. 8 00:00:28,276 --> 00:00:33,007 And I'm here to share with you my story. 9 00:00:33,007 --> 00:00:36,314 You see, when I first got asked to do a TED talk, 10 00:00:36,314 --> 00:00:40,383 I Googled it to see what it's all about, and 11 00:00:40,383 --> 00:00:42,458 one of the speakers came up and she said that 12 00:00:42,458 --> 00:00:44,408 she was fine until she got up on stage 13 00:00:44,408 --> 00:00:46,542 and then she saw the timer and then she noticed 14 00:00:46,542 --> 00:00:49,505 that it was ticking down and it reminded her 15 00:00:49,505 --> 00:00:50,827 very much of a bomb. 16 00:00:50,827 --> 00:00:53,292 (Laughter) 17 00:00:53,292 --> 00:00:56,249 You see I'm from Afghanistan and 18 00:00:56,249 --> 00:01:01,029 that's the last thing I want to be reminded of. 19 00:01:01,029 --> 00:01:04,841 But anyway, earlier this year I went back to Afghanistan 20 00:01:04,841 --> 00:01:07,625 with my father and this photo was taken from 21 00:01:07,625 --> 00:01:11,692 behind our house, in a tiny little village of Joghori. 22 00:01:11,692 --> 00:01:17,241 And that's sunset on the black mountains on the back. 23 00:01:17,241 --> 00:01:20,426 In this next photo is down on the valley floor in front of my house 24 00:01:20,426 --> 00:01:24,025 and that's me with one of the young ones there. 25 00:01:24,025 --> 00:01:26,692 And this photo was taken right there, that green door, 26 00:01:26,692 --> 00:01:31,956 green door to my house that I grew up in. 27 00:01:31,956 --> 00:01:34,976 You see, back in 2001 when the Taliban were at 28 00:01:34,976 --> 00:01:39,838 the height of their power everything changed. 29 00:01:39,838 --> 00:01:42,376 What do you see, what do you think, 30 00:01:42,376 --> 00:01:44,409 when you think of the word "Afghanistan"? 31 00:01:44,409 --> 00:01:46,408 What comes into your mind? 32 00:01:46,408 --> 00:01:50,875 Soldiers, bombs, death, improvised explosive devises, 33 00:01:50,875 --> 00:01:52,908 just like the ones that were used to kill 5 of our brave 34 00:01:52,908 --> 00:01:57,339 troops only 2 weeks ago -- but this is my Afghanistan. 35 00:01:57,339 --> 00:02:02,661 This is what comes into my mind every time I think of home. 36 00:02:02,661 --> 00:02:05,953 So back in 2001 when the Taliban took over 37 00:02:05,953 --> 00:02:09,565 when they were at the height of their power, life was bad. 38 00:02:09,565 --> 00:02:12,407 This didn't exist anymore. 39 00:02:12,407 --> 00:02:16,352 All concepts of basic human rights were thrown out the window. 40 00:02:16,352 --> 00:02:19,233 Women were forced to stay at home, 41 00:02:19,233 --> 00:02:23,087 stay uneducated, or restricted from teaching. 42 00:02:23,087 --> 00:02:25,025 Men were forced to grow beards and simply accept 43 00:02:25,025 --> 00:02:28,013 the judgment of the local commander. 44 00:02:28,013 --> 00:02:30,856 You know, whatever that may be. 45 00:02:30,856 --> 00:02:36,369 Life as we knew it had changed. 46 00:02:36,369 --> 00:02:39,808 So there we were in 2001 -- 47 00:02:39,808 --> 00:02:42,893 me and my family being part of the ethnic minority, 48 00:02:42,893 --> 00:02:48,707 the Khazars, we were persecuted and executed. 49 00:02:48,707 --> 00:02:50,712 We were seen by the Taliban and their people 50 00:02:50,712 --> 00:02:55,770 as a tumor that needed to be cut and gotten rid of. 51 00:02:55,770 --> 00:02:59,234 For half time entertainment at local football matches 52 00:02:59,234 --> 00:03:02,785 my people were brought on onto the field 53 00:03:02,785 --> 00:03:06,324 and stoned to death. 54 00:03:06,324 --> 00:03:11,080 Education en mass for the price of disobedience. 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,800 And so, as you can imagine, my father made the 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,152 decision for our family to leave. 57 00:03:17,152 --> 00:03:21,414 Seek a fresh start, somewhere new. A new beginning. 58 00:03:21,414 --> 00:03:25,274 And that new beginning was going to be Australia. 59 00:03:25,274 --> 00:03:29,715 So we set out in spring of 2001. 60 00:03:29,715 --> 00:03:35,131 Under the cover of night, we arrived in Pakistan, in Karachi. 61 00:03:35,131 --> 00:03:39,668 And, already life was different and I was in the next country. 62 00:03:39,668 --> 00:03:42,193 Our family stayed in a one bedroom apartment 63 00:03:42,193 --> 00:03:46,279 while our traveling papers were organized. 64 00:03:46,279 --> 00:03:49,961 And I celebrated my 7th birthday in Pakistan. 65 00:03:49,961 --> 00:03:53,281 Indonesia was going to be the next step. 66 00:03:53,281 --> 00:03:54,907 See I remember the journey clearly 67 00:03:54,907 --> 00:03:58,497 because it was the first time I boarded a plane 68 00:03:58,497 --> 00:04:01,764 and I can tell you now I was not Star Alliance member. 69 00:04:01,764 --> 00:04:04,314 Not in New Zealand. 70 00:04:04,314 --> 00:04:07,347 Cramped into an old rickety plane 71 00:04:07,347 --> 00:04:09,313 I couldn't understand how we managed to stay in 72 00:04:09,313 --> 00:04:11,613 one piece when we arrived in Indonesia. 73 00:04:11,613 --> 00:04:13,425 And oh man, what a difference you know 74 00:04:13,425 --> 00:04:20,551 the heat, the humidity, the bananas, the neverending expanse of water. 75 00:04:20,551 --> 00:04:23,880 Where the hell where we? 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,230 But anyway, we stayed in Indonesia for 2 months 77 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:29,263 while once again traveling papers organized. 78 00:04:29,263 --> 00:04:31,200 And you know we had to find a ship, 79 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,131 someone to get us to New Zealand. 80 00:04:33,131 --> 00:04:34,997 I'm not in New Zealand at this time obviously, 81 00:04:34,997 --> 00:04:40,407 Australia, we didn't even know this tiny island nation even existed. 82 00:04:40,407 --> 00:04:42,477 Then one night, you know, we'd been here for 2 months 83 00:04:42,477 --> 00:04:44,715 and then one night, I was started awake by my mother 84 00:04:44,715 --> 00:04:47,371 and she said "We're leaving." 85 00:04:47,371 --> 00:04:49,449 And me, being unaware, not knowing, 86 00:04:49,449 --> 00:04:51,446 I was 7 at the time, and anyways I was, 87 00:04:51,446 --> 00:04:54,540 "OK, you know, let's leave." 88 00:04:54,540 --> 00:04:57,019 We were leaving tonight, oh wow. 89 00:04:57,019 --> 00:04:59,019 So I quickly grabbed on to as many clothes as I could 90 00:04:59,019 --> 00:05:02,134 I checked them on trying to save some space in my bag and 91 00:05:02,134 --> 00:05:05,298 we were hurried off onto a bus in the middle of the night. 92 00:05:05,298 --> 00:05:07,246 This was all pitch black darkness so you couldn't see anything 93 00:05:07,246 --> 00:05:08,566 In the middle of the night, we were rushed off 94 00:05:08,566 --> 00:05:12,593 to port, port Merak in Indonesia. 95 00:05:12,593 --> 00:05:15,361 And, in Port Merak we caught up with some 96 00:05:15,361 --> 00:05:17,062 of the other Khazars families, who were also 97 00:05:17,062 --> 00:05:19,395 escaping the atrocities back home. 98 00:05:19,395 --> 00:05:20,328 But we couldn't see anyone 99 00:05:20,328 --> 00:05:22,122 we couldn't distinguish number or what not. 100 00:05:22,122 --> 00:05:26,527 So there we were hurried along into the belly of this 101 00:05:26,527 --> 00:05:30,562 unknown ship and we couldn't understand -- 102 00:05:30,562 --> 00:05:32,178 we knew we were at the port because we could hear 103 00:05:32,178 --> 00:05:33,861 crashing of the waves, but we didn't know 104 00:05:33,861 --> 00:05:35,911 where we were, we just hurried along to the ship 105 00:05:35,911 --> 00:05:37,261 you know, what sort of ship is this? 106 00:05:37,261 --> 00:05:39,678 How big it is? 107 00:05:39,678 --> 00:05:43,479 The next day I got the chance to truly explore this vessel you know, 108 00:05:43,479 --> 00:05:46,390 the MV Palapa 2 as it was known. 109 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:48,881 and I hate to think what happened to Palapa 1. 110 00:05:48,881 --> 00:05:51,412 The MV Palapa 2 was a fishing vessel 111 00:05:51,412 --> 00:05:56,553 and just like fish, 438 Afghans, mostly Afghans, 112 00:05:56,553 --> 00:06:01,357 were crammed into a space that was meant to hold 40. 113 00:06:01,357 --> 00:06:03,394 And I remember, I remember needing to go to the 114 00:06:03,394 --> 00:06:05,993 bathroom when I discovered that it was simply a hole, 115 00:06:05,993 --> 00:06:09,244 in the deck that ran straight into the ocean, 116 00:06:09,244 --> 00:06:13,582 I didn't need to go to the bathroom anymore. 117 00:06:13,582 --> 00:06:18,043 But anyway, on the second day, the engine failed 118 00:06:18,043 --> 00:06:21,378 and that night a storm hit and here you know, 119 00:06:21,378 --> 00:06:24,227 this was the scariest moment of the whole journey. 120 00:06:24,233 --> 00:06:25,886 Not for me, but for everyone, 121 00:06:25,886 --> 00:06:29,539 as a kid, you know, I thought I was on a big adventure. 122 00:06:29,539 --> 00:06:32,245 But put yourselves in my father's position, 123 00:06:32,245 --> 00:06:34,780 he thought that he was offering us a chance, 124 00:06:34,780 --> 00:06:36,563 his family a chance at a fresh start 125 00:06:36,563 --> 00:06:38,763 and now, in this situation when the most, 126 00:06:38,763 --> 00:06:41,690 when our fate was at the mercy of the waves 127 00:06:41,690 --> 00:06:44,845 he thought that he had condemned us to death. 128 00:06:44,845 --> 00:06:49,373 The men all reached the lowest point of their lives at this point. 129 00:06:49,373 --> 00:06:52,781 And still thinking back at it today I think, 130 00:06:52,781 --> 00:06:55,912 how the hell did we survive that night? 131 00:06:55,912 --> 00:06:59,030 Because it was a miracle 132 00:06:59,030 --> 00:07:02,213 the men at that point we were praying, praying to God 133 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:03,341 that please save us 134 00:07:03,341 --> 00:07:05,504 you know, if we're to drown tonight, please wash our 135 00:07:05,504 --> 00:07:10,115 bodies on some shore so we can be buried on land. 136 00:07:10,115 --> 00:07:13,862 But the next day, it eventuated and a small plane 137 00:07:13,862 --> 00:07:16,163 flew overhead and you know as you can imagine 138 00:07:16,163 --> 00:07:19,129 there's a sense of hope that 139 00:07:19,129 --> 00:07:20,546 this plane would see us and 140 00:07:20,546 --> 00:07:23,340 we would be rescued but nothing happened. 141 00:07:23,340 --> 00:07:24,729 And the one man who's sitting at the back of the 142 00:07:24,729 --> 00:07:27,880 auditorium thought he could speak some 143 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,930 English could write the letters S O S 144 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:31,795 and put it up so that the next time a flight 145 00:07:31,795 --> 00:07:33,471 pass they will see us and it did 146 00:07:33,471 --> 00:07:35,912 but again nothing happened. 147 00:07:35,912 --> 00:07:37,880 Morning turned into evening 148 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,995 and all sense of hope was lost again. 149 00:07:40,995 --> 00:07:42,980 But that evening God heard our prayers 150 00:07:42,980 --> 00:07:49,155 for out of the horizon came the MV Tampa -- 151 00:07:49,155 --> 00:07:51,180 MV Tampa is a Norwegian cargo ship heading from 152 00:07:51,180 --> 00:07:53,313 Fremantle in Wiston Australia to Singapore 153 00:07:53,313 --> 00:07:55,903 and had picked up our distress signal that the 154 00:07:55,903 --> 00:07:57,780 captain had put up. 155 00:07:57,780 --> 00:08:00,796 And that's our little boat right there anchored next 156 00:08:00,796 --> 00:08:05,859 to the MV Tampa. 157 00:08:05,859 --> 00:08:09,179 And so as the last man got out of the Palapa, 158 00:08:09,179 --> 00:08:11,880 the Palapa sank 159 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,595 taking with it everything that we brought from 160 00:08:13,595 --> 00:08:16,207 Afghanistan and Pakistan to start our new lives elsewhere. 161 00:08:16,207 --> 00:08:20,195 It sank and is now at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. 162 00:08:20,195 --> 00:08:22,696 Here we wanted to go 163 00:08:22,696 --> 00:08:24,930 We slept in containers, empty containers 164 00:08:24,930 --> 00:08:27,696 and we prayed on deck, and we wanted to know 165 00:08:27,696 --> 00:08:30,030 we wanted to go to Australia to Christmas Island 166 00:08:30,030 --> 00:08:33,296 because it was under Australian control and hopefully 167 00:08:33,296 --> 00:08:36,554 here we would be processed and sent to Australia 168 00:08:36,554 --> 00:08:38,143 this was it, here we are, 169 00:08:38,143 --> 00:08:41,470 the last stepping stone, we're going to go. 170 00:08:41,470 --> 00:08:44,191 But Australia at this time was in the midst of an election 171 00:08:44,191 --> 00:08:49,705 and policy had changed -- 172 00:08:49,705 --> 00:08:52,821 John Howard closed the doors on Australia 173 00:08:52,821 --> 00:08:55,888 to further his campaign. 174 00:08:55,888 --> 00:08:58,288 And so Captain Rinnan, a brave man, a risk taker, 175 00:08:58,288 --> 00:09:01,188 he chose, he headed straight for Christmas Island 176 00:09:01,188 --> 00:09:03,372 but you know within 10 kilometers of Christmas Island 177 00:09:03,372 --> 00:09:06,538 we were forced back by SAS troops. 178 00:09:06,538 --> 00:09:08,989 And under pressure from his own bosses 179 00:09:08,989 --> 00:09:10,504 Renner could not hold us anymore because 180 00:09:10,504 --> 00:09:12,255 he needed his freight to Singapore. 181 00:09:12,255 --> 00:09:14,072 He could not be a host for us anymore. 182 00:09:14,072 --> 00:09:16,255 And so we changed, we were transferred onto 183 00:09:16,255 --> 00:09:19,154 the HMS Minora, a navy frigate. 184 00:09:19,154 --> 00:09:20,850 And this was a lot better for we had bedding 185 00:09:20,850 --> 00:09:24,672 and shower facilities, but still we had no sense of direction 186 00:09:24,672 --> 00:09:30,094 we had, we were just waiting out on the ocean with nowhere to go. 187 00:09:30,094 --> 00:09:33,255 While we were on there, 9/11 happened 188 00:09:33,255 --> 00:09:35,138 but we were unaware. 189 00:09:35,138 --> 00:09:38,872 Because New Zealand put up a tent. 190 00:09:38,872 --> 00:09:40,955 Who or what is a New Zealand? 191 00:09:40,955 --> 00:09:43,135 (Laughter) 192 00:09:43,135 --> 00:09:45,939 That's what we were thinking 193 00:09:45,939 --> 00:09:48,972 but we didn't care for New Zealand was the end 194 00:09:48,972 --> 00:09:51,704 of our 6 month journey from that little village you saw 195 00:09:51,704 --> 00:09:54,971 at the first picture. 196 00:09:54,971 --> 00:09:59,891 So we arrived in New Zealand 28th of September 2001 197 00:09:59,891 --> 00:10:04,030 and at the tarmac of Auckland Airport we felt home. 198 00:10:04,030 --> 00:10:08,271 For the first time, we felt on solid ground 199 00:10:08,271 --> 00:10:13,822 and so we transferred to Mangere Refugee Center 200 00:10:13,822 --> 00:10:15,705 and from there we've been living in Christchurch 201 00:10:15,705 --> 00:10:21,057 for the past 11 years. 202 00:10:21,075 --> 00:10:23,089 That's me and my dad right now when we went back 203 00:10:23,089 --> 00:10:25,172 this Saturday to Afghanistan and to think 204 00:10:25,172 --> 00:10:28,972 where we've come from and where I am at right now 205 00:10:28,972 --> 00:10:33,778 where I'm standing on this stage today is a story of hope 206 00:10:33,778 --> 00:10:36,391 and I want to tell all of you this is my message to all of you. 207 00:10:36,391 --> 00:10:39,788 We're all going through a tough time right now 208 00:10:39,788 --> 00:10:45,355 this country right now is the last land mass to be colonized. 209 00:10:45,372 --> 00:10:48,488 Everyone in this auditorium is either a migrant, 210 00:10:48,488 --> 00:10:51,654 a refugee, or a descendant of one. 211 00:10:51,654 --> 00:10:54,738 It's forever enriching its identity 212 00:10:54,738 --> 00:11:00,462 with people from all over the world. 213 00:11:00,462 --> 00:11:03,771 And so if I, in final remark, regards I just wanted 214 00:11:03,771 --> 00:11:05,822 to tell you we're all going through a tough time 215 00:11:05,822 --> 00:11:07,708 you know, never lose hope because there are other people 216 00:11:07,708 --> 00:11:09,480 going through tougher times. 217 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,390 We all have the power to make a difference 218 00:11:12,390 --> 00:11:15,803 as I graduate and head off from this stage and go 219 00:11:15,803 --> 00:11:17,937 to University down the road I wonder, 220 00:11:17,937 --> 00:11:21,187 "How can I make a difference?" 221 00:11:21,187 --> 00:11:24,922 But the reality is we all have the power to make a difference. 222 00:11:24,922 --> 00:11:29,558 And that can be as easy as listening to someone tell their story. 223 00:11:29,558 --> 00:11:31,221 Thank you. 224 00:11:31,221 --> 00:11:41,603 (Applause) 225 00:11:42,625 --> 00:11:44,062 (Moderator) No, don't go, don't go,stay, 226 00:11:44,062 --> 00:11:46,760 we gotta talk a bit about your family. 227 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:58,170 (Applause) 228 00:11:58,916 --> 00:12:04,896 (Moderator) The word "Tampa" looms very large in history 229 00:12:04,896 --> 00:12:08,513 and so to have met somebody who came here from 230 00:12:08,513 --> 00:12:11,201 the Tampa is a huge privilege. 231 00:12:11,201 --> 00:12:14,498 You asked, "Who or what is New Zealand?" 232 00:12:14,498 --> 00:12:16,931 The simple answer is "You are!" 233 00:12:16,931 --> 00:12:19,532 and you didn't come on your own. 234 00:12:19,532 --> 00:12:21,914 and so we would like to acknowledge family and friends 235 00:12:21,914 --> 00:12:25,931 in the audience if they would like to stand please? 236 00:12:25,931 --> 00:12:28,932 You're out there. Thank you very much indeed. 237 00:12:28,932 --> 00:12:36,177 (Applause)