WEBVTT 00:00:01.595 --> 00:00:03.518 Like a lot of people around the world, 00:00:03.542 --> 00:00:06.143 earlier this summer my friends and I were obsessed 00:00:06.167 --> 00:00:08.643 with the Women's World Cup held in France. 00:00:08.667 --> 00:00:11.518 Here we are, watching these incredible athletes, 00:00:11.542 --> 00:00:15.101 the goals were amazing, the games were clean and engaging, 00:00:15.125 --> 00:00:17.893 and at the same time, outside the field, 00:00:17.917 --> 00:00:19.893 these women are talking about equal pay, 00:00:19.917 --> 00:00:23.518 and in the case of some countries, any pay at all for their sport. 00:00:23.542 --> 00:00:27.059 So because we were mildly obsessed, we wanted to watch the games live, 00:00:27.083 --> 00:00:30.851 and we decided that one of the Spanish-speaking networks in the US 00:00:30.875 --> 00:00:32.893 was the best place for us to start. 00:00:32.917 --> 00:00:35.851 And it wasn't until a few games into the tournament 00:00:35.875 --> 00:00:38.393 that a friend of mine talks to me and says, 00:00:38.417 --> 00:00:40.559 "Why does it feel like everything I'm seeing 00:00:40.583 --> 00:00:43.833 is commercials for makeup and household cleaning products and diets?" NOTE Paragraph 00:00:44.917 --> 00:00:46.768 It did feel a little bit too obvious, 00:00:46.792 --> 00:00:49.018 and I don't know if we were sensitive about it 00:00:49.042 --> 00:00:52.184 or the fact that we were watching with men and boys in our lives, 00:00:52.208 --> 00:00:54.184 but it did feel a little bit too obvious 00:00:54.208 --> 00:00:57.226 that we're being targeted for being women. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:57.250 --> 00:01:00.809 And to be honest there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. 00:01:00.833 --> 00:01:04.018 Someone sat down and looked at the tournament and said, 00:01:04.042 --> 00:01:07.684 "Well, this thing is likely to be seen by more women, 00:01:07.708 --> 00:01:10.601 these women are Hispanic because they're watching in Spanish, 00:01:10.625 --> 00:01:11.893 and this is women content. 00:01:11.917 --> 00:01:15.268 Therefore, this is a great place for me to place all these commercials 00:01:15.292 --> 00:01:18.393 that are female-centric and maybe not other things." 00:01:18.417 --> 00:01:20.101 If I think about it as a marketer, 00:01:20.125 --> 00:01:22.768 I know that I absolutely should not be annoyed about it, 00:01:22.792 --> 00:01:26.059 because this is what marketers are tasked with doing. 00:01:26.083 --> 00:01:29.726 Marketers are tasked with building brands with very limited budget, 00:01:29.750 --> 00:01:32.184 so there's a little bit of an incentive 00:01:32.208 --> 00:01:34.184 to categorize people in buckets 00:01:34.208 --> 00:01:36.059 so they can reach their target faster. 00:01:36.083 --> 00:01:37.434 So if you think about this, 00:01:37.458 --> 00:01:38.934 it's kind of like a shortcut. 00:01:38.958 --> 00:01:42.167 They're using gender as a shortcut to get to their target consumer. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:43.292 --> 00:01:47.226 The issue is that as logical as that argument seems, 00:01:47.250 --> 00:01:50.559 gender as a shortcut is actually not great. 00:01:50.583 --> 00:01:53.809 In this day and age, if you still blindly use a gender view 00:01:53.833 --> 00:01:55.393 for your marketing activities, 00:01:55.417 --> 00:01:57.542 actually it's just plain bad business. 00:01:58.333 --> 00:02:01.893 I'm not talking even about the backlash on stereotypes in advertising, 00:02:01.917 --> 00:02:05.101 which is a very real thing that has to be addressed. 00:02:05.125 --> 00:02:08.434 I'm saying it's bad business because you're leaving money on the table 00:02:08.458 --> 00:02:10.226 for your brands and your products. 00:02:10.250 --> 00:02:13.351 Because gender is such an easy thing to find in the market 00:02:13.375 --> 00:02:15.268 and to target and to talk about, 00:02:15.292 --> 00:02:17.601 it actually distracts you from the fun things 00:02:17.625 --> 00:02:19.851 that could be driving growth from your brands 00:02:19.875 --> 00:02:21.184 and, at the same time, 00:02:21.208 --> 00:02:23.851 it continues to create separation around genders 00:02:23.875 --> 00:02:25.643 and perpetuate stereotypes. 00:02:25.667 --> 00:02:28.851 So at the same time this activity is bad for your business 00:02:28.875 --> 00:02:31.125 and bad for society, so double whammy. 00:02:31.875 --> 00:02:35.393 And gender is one of those things like other demographics 00:02:35.417 --> 00:02:38.101 that have historically been good marketing shortcuts. 00:02:38.125 --> 00:02:39.726 At some point, however, 00:02:39.750 --> 00:02:42.226 we forgot that at the core we were targeting needs 00:02:42.250 --> 00:02:46.976 around cooking and cleaning and personal care and driving and sports 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:48.726 and we just made it all a bucket 00:02:48.750 --> 00:02:50.851 and we said, "Men and women are different." 00:02:50.875 --> 00:02:53.476 We got used to it and we never challenged it again, 00:02:53.500 --> 00:02:55.101 and it's fascinating to me, 00:02:55.125 --> 00:02:57.851 and by fascinating I mean a little bit insane, 00:02:57.875 --> 00:03:00.393 that we still talk about this as a segment 00:03:00.417 --> 00:03:03.601 when it's most likely carryover bias. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:03.625 --> 00:03:06.434 In fact, I don't come to this conclusion lightly. 00:03:06.458 --> 00:03:10.226 We have enough data to suggest that gender is not the best place 00:03:10.250 --> 00:03:13.684 to start for you to design and target your brands. 00:03:13.708 --> 00:03:15.726 And I would even go one step further: 00:03:15.750 --> 00:03:20.226 unless you are working in a very gender-specific product category, 00:03:20.250 --> 00:03:21.559 probably anything else 00:03:21.583 --> 00:03:24.143 you're hypothesizing about your consumer right now 00:03:24.167 --> 00:03:26.083 is going to be more useful than gender. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:27.917 --> 00:03:30.851 We did not set up to draw this conclusion specifically. 00:03:30.875 --> 00:03:32.143 We found it. 00:03:32.167 --> 00:03:34.643 As consultants, our job is to go with our clients 00:03:34.667 --> 00:03:36.143 and understand their business 00:03:36.167 --> 00:03:39.684 and try to help them find spaces for their brands to grow. 00:03:39.708 --> 00:03:44.059 And it is our belief that if you want to find disruptive growth in the market, 00:03:44.083 --> 00:03:45.851 you have to go to the consumer 00:03:45.875 --> 00:03:48.101 and take a very agnostic view of the consumer. 00:03:48.125 --> 00:03:50.393 You have to go and look at them from scratch, 00:03:50.417 --> 00:03:54.809 remove yourself from biases and segments that you thought were important, 00:03:54.833 --> 00:03:57.809 just take a look to see where the growth is. 00:03:57.833 --> 00:04:00.768 And we built ourselves an algorithm precisely for that. 00:04:00.792 --> 00:04:03.351 So imagine that we have a person 00:04:03.375 --> 00:04:05.643 and we know a person is making a choice 00:04:05.667 --> 00:04:07.601 about a product or service, 00:04:07.625 --> 00:04:10.684 and from this person, I can know their gender, of course, 00:04:10.708 --> 00:04:13.934 other demographics, where they live, their income, other things. 00:04:13.958 --> 00:04:17.143 I know the context where this person is making a decision, 00:04:17.167 --> 00:04:19.184 where they are, who they're with, 00:04:19.208 --> 00:04:21.018 the energy, anything, 00:04:21.042 --> 00:04:23.101 and I can also put other things in the mix. 00:04:23.125 --> 00:04:24.476 I can know their attitudes, 00:04:24.500 --> 00:04:26.143 how they feel about the category, 00:04:26.167 --> 00:04:27.559 their behaviors. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:27.583 --> 00:04:32.184 So if you imagine this kind of blob of big data about a person -- 00:04:32.208 --> 00:04:34.268 I'm going to oversimplify the science here 00:04:34.292 --> 00:04:37.684 but we basically built an algorithm for statistical tournaments. 00:04:37.708 --> 00:04:42.143 So a statistical tournament is like asking this big thing of data, 00:04:42.167 --> 00:04:46.768 "So, data, from everything you know about consumers at this point, 00:04:46.792 --> 00:04:49.476 what is the most useful thing I need to know 00:04:49.500 --> 00:04:52.518 that tells me more about what consumers need?" 00:04:52.542 --> 00:04:55.101 So the tournament is going to have winners and losers. 00:04:55.125 --> 00:04:57.518 The winners are those variables, those dimensions, 00:04:57.542 --> 00:04:59.893 that actually teach you a lot about your consumer, 00:04:59.917 --> 00:05:02.184 that if you know that, you know what they need. 00:05:02.208 --> 00:05:05.184 And there's losing variables that are just not that practical, 00:05:05.208 --> 00:05:08.393 and this matters because in a world of limited resources, 00:05:08.417 --> 00:05:11.809 you don't want to waste it on people that actually have the same needs. 00:05:11.833 --> 00:05:13.893 So why treat them differently? NOTE Paragraph 00:05:13.917 --> 00:05:16.518 So at this point, I know, suspense is not killing you, 00:05:16.542 --> 00:05:18.434 because I told you what the output is, 00:05:18.458 --> 00:05:20.893 but what we found over time 00:05:20.917 --> 00:05:25.434 is after 200 projects around the world -- this is covering 20 countries or more -- 00:05:25.458 --> 00:05:29.309 in essence we ran about a hundred thousand of these tournaments, 00:05:29.333 --> 00:05:34.393 and, no surprise, gender was very rarely the most predictive thing 00:05:34.417 --> 00:05:36.167 to understand consumer needs. 00:05:37.292 --> 00:05:39.184 From a hundred thousand tournaments, 00:05:39.208 --> 00:05:41.601 gender only came out as the winning variable 00:05:41.625 --> 00:05:43.125 in about five percent of them. 00:05:43.958 --> 00:05:46.018 This is true around the world, by the way. 00:05:46.042 --> 00:05:48.559 We did this in places where traditional gender roles 00:05:48.583 --> 00:05:50.934 are a little more pronounced, 00:05:50.958 --> 00:05:53.018 and the conclusions were exactly the same. 00:05:53.042 --> 00:05:55.976 It was a little bit more important, gender, than five percent, 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:57.268 but not material. 00:05:57.292 --> 00:05:59.476 So let's let that sink in for a second. 00:05:59.500 --> 00:06:01.851 No matter how you're looking at a consumer, 00:06:01.875 --> 00:06:06.226 most likely anything else is going to be more interesting to you than gender. 00:06:06.250 --> 00:06:09.643 There's probably something very important you need to know about them, 00:06:09.667 --> 00:06:13.351 and you're getting distracted because you're doing everything based on gender. 00:06:13.375 --> 00:06:15.976 And that's why I say you're leaving money on the table. 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:19.059 Gender is easy. It's easy to design advertising based on gender, 00:06:19.083 --> 00:06:23.476 it's easy to target people online and on TV based on gender. 00:06:23.500 --> 00:06:26.851 But at the end, that's not where the exciting growth will come from. 00:06:26.875 --> 00:06:31.101 If you're a food company, for example, it's actually much more interesting to you 00:06:31.125 --> 00:06:34.726 to know where people are eating, who they are eating with, 00:06:34.750 --> 00:06:37.184 are they very nutritionally oriented. 00:06:37.208 --> 00:06:40.934 All of those things are actually significantly more powerful and useful 00:06:40.958 --> 00:06:43.393 than knowing if a person is a man or a woman. 00:06:43.417 --> 00:06:44.809 And that matters, of course, 00:06:44.833 --> 00:06:48.101 because then if you're putting your limited budget into action, 00:06:48.125 --> 00:06:51.184 then you're better off creating solutions for different occasions 00:06:51.208 --> 00:06:53.375 than trying to target women versus young men. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:54.917 --> 00:06:57.226 Another example is alcoholic beverages. 00:06:57.250 --> 00:07:00.601 Thirty-five percent to 40 percent of consumption in alcoholic beverages 00:07:00.625 --> 00:07:02.768 around the world actually happens with women, 00:07:02.792 --> 00:07:04.768 but, you know, "women don't drink beer." 00:07:04.792 --> 00:07:07.583 Those are the things that we typically hear. 00:07:08.583 --> 00:07:12.601 But actually, when a man and a woman are, for the most part, in the same location, 00:07:12.625 --> 00:07:15.559 the emotional and functional needs they have at that moment 00:07:15.583 --> 00:07:17.143 are very similar. 00:07:17.167 --> 00:07:19.268 There's only one exception, by the way, 00:07:19.292 --> 00:07:21.059 and the exceptions exist, 00:07:21.083 --> 00:07:22.809 where if you have a man and a woman 00:07:22.833 --> 00:07:24.143 on a date, 00:07:24.167 --> 00:07:26.518 the man is trying to impress the woman 00:07:26.542 --> 00:07:28.851 and the woman is trying to connect with the man, 00:07:28.875 --> 00:07:31.101 so there's going to be a little bit of tension, 00:07:31.125 --> 00:07:32.601 but that's important to know. 00:07:32.625 --> 00:07:33.893 We'll take a few dates. 00:07:33.917 --> 00:07:36.976 Financial institutions: that's something where we've heard a lot 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:39.059 about the difference between men and women, 00:07:39.083 --> 00:07:41.601 but actually talking about men and women as different 00:07:41.625 --> 00:07:44.226 is distracting you from the thing that is underneath. 00:07:44.250 --> 00:07:47.476 We made it so simple as "women don't like to invest," 00:07:47.500 --> 00:07:49.184 "women hate managing their money," 00:07:49.208 --> 00:07:51.601 "men are great and aggressive and risk-takers," 00:07:51.625 --> 00:07:53.768 but at the end it's not about men and women. 00:07:53.792 --> 00:07:55.601 It is actually a different narrative. 00:07:55.625 --> 00:07:58.893 It is about, there are people that are excited and energized 00:07:58.917 --> 00:08:01.476 and educated to manage their finances 00:08:01.500 --> 00:08:02.934 versus people that are not. 00:08:02.958 --> 00:08:04.684 So if you change the conversation 00:08:04.708 --> 00:08:07.518 from men and women to actually what's underneath 00:08:07.542 --> 00:08:10.851 then probably you'll stop being so condescending to women 00:08:10.875 --> 00:08:12.559 and you may start serving some men 00:08:12.583 --> 00:08:15.643 that are actually shy about managing their finances. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:15.667 --> 00:08:17.268 I'll leave one more example. 00:08:17.292 --> 00:08:20.476 If I go back to the women that were playing sport at the beginning, 00:08:20.500 --> 00:08:24.101 one of the fascinating things we found over different countries, 00:08:24.125 --> 00:08:26.434 exploring sportswear, 00:08:26.458 --> 00:08:28.518 that if a person is a competitive person 00:08:28.542 --> 00:08:30.768 and they are in the moment of action, 00:08:30.792 --> 00:08:33.393 the needs are not different between a man and a woman. 00:08:33.417 --> 00:08:34.726 An athlete is an athlete. 00:08:34.750 --> 00:08:38.184 It doesn't matter for men and women, it doesn't matter for old and young, 00:08:38.208 --> 00:08:39.476 you are an athlete, 00:08:39.500 --> 00:08:41.976 and in the moment of action and extreme competition, 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:43.726 you need this gear to work for you. 00:08:43.750 --> 00:08:47.309 So these soccer-playing women have a lot in common with their counterparts. 00:08:47.333 --> 00:08:49.143 Out of the field, it doesn't matter. 00:08:49.167 --> 00:08:52.101 Out of the field, they may be into fashion, into other things, 00:08:52.125 --> 00:08:54.684 but on the field, the needs are not different. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:54.708 --> 00:08:58.434 So these are just a few examples on categories where we found 00:08:58.458 --> 00:09:01.226 that gender was not the best place to go, 00:09:01.250 --> 00:09:03.559 and actually the argument is 00:09:03.583 --> 00:09:05.934 that at this point it's not even a feminist push, 00:09:05.958 --> 00:09:07.434 it's just we got used to it. 00:09:07.458 --> 00:09:08.851 We got used to using gender, 00:09:08.875 --> 00:09:12.018 and it's important for us to start finding ways 00:09:12.042 --> 00:09:14.226 to measure other things about consumers 00:09:14.250 --> 00:09:16.684 so that we don't revert back to gender. 00:09:16.708 --> 00:09:18.018 I am not naïve, 00:09:18.042 --> 00:09:20.226 and I know there's still going to be appetite 00:09:20.250 --> 00:09:22.101 and certain ease around using gender, 00:09:22.125 --> 00:09:24.184 but at least this warrants a conversation. 00:09:24.208 --> 00:09:26.101 In your business, you have to inquire, 00:09:26.125 --> 00:09:29.101 is this really the best lens for me to grow. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:29.125 --> 00:09:32.643 So, if you are, like me, a person that is in business, 00:09:32.667 --> 00:09:36.643 that I am constantly worried about what is my role 00:09:36.667 --> 00:09:39.726 in the broader societal discussions, 00:09:39.750 --> 00:09:42.726 if you're listening to your business and you hear things like, 00:09:42.750 --> 00:09:44.893 "Oh, my target are women, my target are men, 00:09:44.917 --> 00:09:47.601 this goes to young girls, young boys," 00:09:47.625 --> 00:09:49.518 when it's that gender conversation, 00:09:49.542 --> 00:09:51.059 unless you are working, again, 00:09:51.083 --> 00:09:55.226 in a very specific, gender-specific product category, 00:09:55.250 --> 00:09:56.726 take this as a warning sign, 00:09:56.750 --> 00:09:59.601 because if you keep having these conversations, 00:09:59.625 --> 00:10:02.143 you will keep perpetuating stereotypes of people 00:10:02.167 --> 00:10:04.851 and making people think that men and women are different. 00:10:04.875 --> 00:10:07.684 But because this is business, and we're running a business, 00:10:07.708 --> 00:10:09.018 and we want to grow it, 00:10:09.042 --> 00:10:11.851 at least kind of challenge your own instinct to use gender, 00:10:11.875 --> 00:10:15.393 because statistics say that you're probably not choosing the best variable 00:10:15.417 --> 00:10:17.309 to target your product or service. 00:10:17.333 --> 00:10:19.559 Growth is not easy at all. 00:10:19.583 --> 00:10:21.934 What makes you think that growth is going to come 00:10:21.958 --> 00:10:25.351 from going into market with such an outdated lens like gender? NOTE Paragraph 00:10:25.375 --> 00:10:28.059 So let's stop doing what's easy and go for what's right. 00:10:28.083 --> 00:10:31.601 At this point, it's not just for your business, it's for society. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:31.625 --> 00:10:33.018 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:33.042 --> 00:10:36.042 (Applause)